Starter Class Guide | Dark Souls: Remastered

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  • @ValyriaUK
    @ValyriaUK  6 лет назад +276

    Several amendments to the script, left out either due to time constraints or just glanced over. I'll update this list as they are pointed out.
    - Pyromancer is also an ideal DEX hybrid. Having 45 DEX will improve casting speed greatly and allow you to maximise physical damage with DEX based weapons.
    - MugenMonkey.com is a great tool for build planning and checking all things statistical.

    • @AsharOzborne95
      @AsharOzborne95 6 лет назад +2

      If it's not to much of a bother, or doesn't cause you any fuss, would you be interested in making a Character Creation based on Sekiro (the ninja, not the game)?
      Would love to see it.
      You're awesome! :) Keep up the great work, but don't let the pressure of youtube crush your spirits. If necessary, apply rest and relaxation when needed. :)
      K thx bye XD

    • @merrickgodina
      @merrickgodina 6 лет назад +2

      Hey man, you havent been as active lately and I'd love to see more content, I know alot of people probably say this but I really enjoy your content and I'd love to see more stuff oh and one more thing maybe you could do a painter from the ashes of ariendel

    • @gankspanker1367
      @gankspanker1367 5 лет назад

      Hey I always been a warrior for all games dealing massive damage or tanking the hits but i want to use magic to can the warrior use it?

    • @biribinha_97
      @biribinha_97 5 лет назад

      Hello my dude. I've been thinking.. since you have A LOT OF SKILLS with the character creator from DS3, can you create a character for me? :V
      Her name is Oshino Shinobu from Monogatari Series. She appers as a child, teenager and as adult. If you could do the adult version I'll be very greatfull

    • @danikisikan9821
      @danikisikan9821 5 лет назад +1

      @@gankspanker1367 any class can use spells, you just need a casting item and the spell itself. Its only a guide, warriors can still cast spells, but not recommended early game, as it has low int, meaning lower spell dmg

  • @ymfah
    @ymfah 6 лет назад +884

    Sorcerer, Master key
    N O I C E

  • @GameTalesHQ
    @GameTalesHQ 6 лет назад +639

    Incredibly well made, even as a souls veteran this was very entertaining to watch. Great narration and editing!

    • @jjay1678
      @jjay1678 3 года назад +6

      Nerd

    • @scaressell6880
      @scaressell6880 3 года назад +4

      @@jjay1678 nawl man

    • @scaressell6880
      @scaressell6880 3 года назад +2

      @@jjay1678 souls is the bomb

    • @Voltaic_Fire
      @Voltaic_Fire 2 года назад +1

      Well said.

    • @Voltaic_Fire
      @Voltaic_Fire 2 года назад

      @@jjay1678 You think that being a nerd is a bad thing? Damn, that is adorably dim-witted.

  • @lassim3111
    @lassim3111 5 лет назад +259

    I always pick knight because
    *FASHION SOULS!!!*

  • @imzevo8387
    @imzevo8387 6 лет назад +276

    Been contemplating getting into Dark Souls lately, this is literally perfect.

  • @carboy0353
    @carboy0353 4 года назад +1070

    Me, a filthy casual: Ah man, the knight looks cool!

    • @MythicRusty
      @MythicRusty 4 года назад +77

      Carson Watts Knights better than warrrior in my opinion.

    • @santiagobermudez6497
      @santiagobermudez6497 4 года назад +44

      White Schoolkid I’ve decided to buy dark souls 1 since my friend recommended it to me. I’ll probably pick warrior or wanderer

    • @ELMedain
      @ELMedain 4 года назад +75

      @@MythicRusty welcome to fatroll city for half the early game

    • @sophiaperennis2360
      @sophiaperennis2360 4 года назад +41

      @@ELMedain Just buy the chain set and roll with that until you have enough endurance for the heavier armor. The chain set looks amazing with the Tower Kite Shield or the Knight Shield while using a long sword or a broad sword. You can still cosplay as a "knight" and there's a nice progression as you move from the chain armor, to the knight armor, to the elite knight armor and you can still use the chain armor if you want to ninja roll later on when you are bored of medium roll.

    • @keyman245
      @keyman245 4 года назад +25

      @@sophiaperennis2360 me running around naked to ninja roll better

  • @cesarmanueldzibtun1208
    @cesarmanueldzibtun1208 5 лет назад +502

    Deprived + Master Key = Perfection.

    • @roscoejustros7080
      @roscoejustros7080 5 лет назад +25

      Every character I make

    • @theelderworm9134
      @theelderworm9134 4 года назад +18

      You say that as a joke but i do that 100% seriously. The added challenge is pretty fun a d refreshed the game

    • @jacksonvelazquez9685
      @jacksonvelazquez9685 4 года назад +20

      @@theelderworm9134 I just like being a blank slate

    • @memedealer2018
      @memedealer2018 4 года назад +17

      Deprived+master key sounds like the embodiment of potential

    • @trevorvanderputten7430
      @trevorvanderputten7430 3 года назад +2

      @@memedealer2018 It is, as someone who did this a few times it is fun.

  • @theboi9676
    @theboi9676 5 лет назад +54

    For those who didn’t know, the knight starts with a little faith, the prayer gesture, and is already part of the way of white cov. This is a build that could be used for a little faith to use some miracle like replenish, seeing how in the description it states that a knight won’t easily fall with it. A clue of sorts and if you desire this might be a fairly good choice for a slight quality and faith build.

  • @auburn1036
    @auburn1036 5 лет назад +36

    gotta say that ending really got me hyped up to play the game

  • @PerfectlyLostMySanity
    @PerfectlyLostMySanity 6 лет назад +207

    I pick the pale one

  • @BaleonRosen6547
    @BaleonRosen6547 6 лет назад +75

    This was a great breakdown of the classes, and I think this would be a great video to show to new players. It would help reduce a lot of new player confusion, and it's something I wish I'd had when I first started haha

  • @markusphenix8343
    @markusphenix8343 4 года назад +51

    Warrior is by far the best for strength, Dex or quality build because of 8 attun, 9 int and 9 faith all the other points are based on str, end, res, vit and dex

  • @afonsofrancopereira9859
    @afonsofrancopereira9859 5 лет назад +19

    Just one of the best videos that I watched about dark souls mechanics. Thank you for making my gameplay easier and I hope to see more of your work.

  • @ArctheDark
    @ArctheDark Год назад +6

    The deprived is one of the best starting classes in the game. An 11 across the board means it can easily segue into any build you want, and the club does pretty good damage too.

  • @moistslippers9726
    @moistslippers9726 5 лет назад +82

    Miss your content mate! Hope you come back one day.

  • @HayBayle
    @HayBayle 3 года назад +9

    Man, thank you. Very well structured video, and highly informative! Embarking on the Souls journey, here goes!

  • @عمادبالأعمى
    @عمادبالأعمى 2 года назад +4

    I started playing dark souls 4 days ago and ITS SUPER FUN but also challenging i have choose thief and been playing very straight forward (like a knight) now that i saw how u played with the thief i think ill be able to do better!!

  • @firdaushbhadha2597
    @firdaushbhadha2597 2 года назад +3

    This was one the best produced videos I have seen on RUclips. Out classing at times SkillUp, Alt-Shift, and Vaatividya. Stand up job.

  • @fishy492
    @fishy492 3 года назад +29

    I do prefer melee builds, but I usually start as a pyromancer in dark souls 1 and train my stats so I can properly wield the larger swords

  • @tobiaslundqvist3209
    @tobiaslundqvist3209 Год назад +3

    Man the meta way to play this game has permeated it to such an extent that I cannot even imagine getting into these as a new player today. With so many opinions of the "right way to play" all innovation stagnates like Gwyns Age of Fire :p.
    But as an old hand, this video is tasty. You really did a great job! 🎉

  • @ErrorLost
    @ErrorLost 6 лет назад +15

    Amazing good job man hope you never stop making vids

    • @MICRO.p
      @MICRO.p 3 года назад

      That aged like milk

  • @shadowcross4813
    @shadowcross4813 2 года назад +1

    I really appreciate that you made this. I mainly watched it to just learn what each class is supposed to do and happily got more than I wanted. I wouldn't of minded to learn it all my own but i thought it would really help me if I learned about the statistic side of dark souls to improve my experience more.

  • @brosephthomas3764
    @brosephthomas3764 6 лет назад +77

    The controls take some getting used to when transferring from games like BOTW and Skyrim. Once I got used to them though it's quite a fun time!

    • @jacrispy116
      @jacrispy116 4 года назад +9

      I agree
      I went from gta and cod to dark souls

  • @joshmattingly8056
    @joshmattingly8056 5 лет назад +8

    Very well done video bruv! Classy (no pun intended), informative, engaging. You've got a sub. Keep it up!

  • @Fuffy842
    @Fuffy842 8 месяцев назад +1

    The ending gave me literal chills

  • @cjneff6017
    @cjneff6017 5 лет назад +14

    that was a dope video man, gave me chills after you said "Prepare to Die." Got me all excited! :D

  • @randyflanderson4298
    @randyflanderson4298 6 лет назад +18

    hey, welcome back, personally, i think pyro is best, it seems to have the lowest cost for hybrid builds

  • @xhobixhoba9033
    @xhobixhoba9033 4 года назад +1

    Well played. You spoke of each clas and what they got for themselfs

  • @henrys_arte8173
    @henrys_arte8173 2 года назад

    This video taught me a lot, my first build was thieve and my second pyromancer and didn’t understand why I wasn’t getting my bow on my second character until mid game. One more reason why these videos are great

  • @Bradypodidus
    @Bradypodidus 3 года назад +2

    Very helpful. Currently playing demons souls and am hyped to Play dark souls next

  • @ZeroChaos76
    @ZeroChaos76 4 года назад +3

    Hello, just got into the game after a big break from the souls series. Love your videos, I hope we haven’t seen the end of them!

  • @konodioda6324
    @konodioda6324 5 лет назад +4

    This is the best class guide I've ever seen holy crap subscribed

  • @tenwholebees
    @tenwholebees Год назад +5

    Deprived is good because you start as an overall lower character level, meaning you get to put more levels into a build you want. Other builds are good for starting out, but if you have a build in mind, where you want specific stat allocations, then Deprived is for you.
    That said, its usually used by Souls veterans who know exactly what weapon, spells, armor, whatever, they are going to be using. Thats why its a popular choice in speedruns.
    If its your first time playing, id recommend maybe not going Deprived, but then again, it is Dark Souls, youre gonna get steamrolled regardless

    • @kito5961
      @kito5961 7 месяцев назад

      do u still recommend deprived? ive just bought this game and its gonna be my first playthrough

    • @flamfloz
      @flamfloz 5 дней назад +1

      ​@@kito5961 Deprived is bad in Dark Souls 1. I don't know where that person got their information from (Elden Ring probably) but in DS1 specifically, the deprived is the highest Level character (means less freedom to build it the way you want). You can add +1 stat per "soul level" (XP basically), and the Deprived already starts with a higher level and (poorly) pre allocated stats (as if somebody had levelled up your Deprived poorly). Any other character is better in DS1 as they start at a lower level, and Pyro in DS1 is probably the closest to Elden Ring's deprived (in ER, Deprived starts at level 1, in DS1 Pyro starts at level 1).
      Outside of PVP (and you shouldn't care about PvP your first time), I think you can pick any class you want. It will be roughly the same since there is a shop 10 mins after you reach the main landmass to grab decent starting gear, and the first few levels are fast to get... So within the first hour you should be at the same level as any other starting class, there is little difference.
      I would say cleric is the best for a beginner because they start with a Healing spell that costs 4,000 souls and the correct gear to cast that spell... These 4,000 souls you save can go towards leveling instead (levels and shop use the same currency), which will be around 4 levels in the early game. And I think for a beginner, having a few extra heals in the form of a spell is a welcome aid. The game is entirely possible to complete without this spell though.

    • @SubmitToTheBiomass
      @SubmitToTheBiomass День назад

      Deprived is definitely not "a popular choice in speedruns". Cleric + Black Firebombs is the speedrun route.

  • @rodgercampo5332
    @rodgercampo5332 3 года назад

    The production on this vid, amazing.

  • @lChilledMonkeyl
    @lChilledMonkeyl 6 лет назад +1

    Dude thanks to your videos my characters in dark souls 3 don’t look like crap, nice content man

  • @MrDeafultuser
    @MrDeafultuser 6 лет назад +6

    Your video quality is great. The sound quality is good, the introduction is simple yet it delivers the message. And the class disection is well done. Overall, it's a really good guide.
    Will you be able to make a guide for the rest of Souls series, and maybe about the starting gifts (if applicable)? I would be looking forward to it.

  • @TheEnriqueBenito
    @TheEnriqueBenito 6 лет назад +21

    Good video, greetings from Spain.

  • @GrubKiller436
    @GrubKiller436 6 лет назад +22

    As someone who's never played this game, the Warrior sounds like the best choice for a beginner.

    • @Apollo3698
      @Apollo3698 5 лет назад +9

      The warrior is very good but I'd say the knight is a bit better for someone brand new to the game. You start out with better health and great armor and shield. Also the stats are fairly even, and you automatically start the game in a covenant that reduces the chance you'll be invaded by other players.

    • @MyH3ntaiGirl
      @MyH3ntaiGirl 5 лет назад +4

      @@Apollo3698 warrior teach you to use shield and dodge better than Knight tho
      Knight you tank hit quite abit and use poise mostly

    • @Raas1905
      @Raas1905 5 лет назад +2

      sorcerer is best

  • @rorybanta515
    @rorybanta515 2 года назад

    Just got elden ring last week and it's my first souls game. It's got me wanting to try out dark souls and bloodborne so here I am. The pyromancer sounds pretty cool not going to lie

  • @Malastrome
    @Malastrome 6 лет назад +2

    I usually end up going with either Wanderer, or Cleric for the dex build, or quality faith.
    This was well done, though man! Should help a lot of new comers to the series.

    • @davids7646
      @davids7646 6 лет назад

      Why cleric for dex build? doesn't it come with higher strength? Anyway will you make fashion souls for dark souls remastered?

    • @violentabrahamlincoln1395
      @violentabrahamlincoln1395 4 года назад

      Damn, you stopped uploading

  • @pizzachef7420
    @pizzachef7420 6 лет назад +3

    Great content man! Very professional and easily followable.

  • @Nabo42
    @Nabo42 5 лет назад +1

    Thanks for this video man! I just picked up Remastered and this video has really helped me.

  • @redseagaming7832
    @redseagaming7832 3 года назад +2

    The deprived class is a good class if you want a balanced character all the stats being the same number it takes longer to get stronger but getting all your sets to 50 each is pretty good which allows you to get your hands on all the weapons in the game

  • @Voltaic_Fire
    @Voltaic_Fire 2 года назад +3

    I'm thinking about picking cleric then focusing on dexterity in my next run, it should allow for medium armour and healing miracles which will help my use of the bow and of dexterity scaling melee weapons. It may not work out but I will have fun finding out.

  • @Brndndutton
    @Brndndutton 2 месяца назад +1

    Can’t wait to give this game a shot….😉

  • @BV_Mod
    @BV_Mod 2 года назад

    This is AMAZING Val! I want more 🥰

  • @Bobington123
    @Bobington123 2 года назад

    Loved the video man! Great breakdown

  • @BigJonahJ
    @BigJonahJ 3 года назад +1

    This helped a ton!

  • @Red-tn3wm
    @Red-tn3wm 6 лет назад +1

    Good job on the video. Looked really well done and professional. :)

  • @cesargatica2630
    @cesargatica2630 3 года назад

    New player, really appreciate this video

  • @DStrormer
    @DStrormer 4 года назад +1

    Thief + Witch Ring is my favorite for Chaos Servant builds just so I get both gifts.

  • @ismeCelo
    @ismeCelo 6 лет назад +4

    i love it, great job + the ending is super creative

  • @mrcwillis6970
    @mrcwillis6970 9 месяцев назад

    Ty, this was very helpful when deciding what class to pick, only played Elden ring for a little and haven’t played in a long while, barely made any progress to be honest. I’m not too familiar with souls games, I just started dark souls remastered for the first time, so far it’s going well I think. Gonna plan on slowly make my through this and then bloodborne and then back to Elden ring. 🖤

  • @Totescolin
    @Totescolin 4 года назад +1

    The cleric starting weapon is insane especially if you level it up even once.

    • @jesusleyva4386
      @jesusleyva4386 3 года назад +1

      Cleric is OP once you get 25 faith. Just get the lightning spear and beat gargoyles in a few hits

  • @christianbaker3564
    @christianbaker3564 2 года назад +1

    Awesome video my man but I'd give the hunter a solid playthrough and see what they have to offer. Having a bow before you get to the first merchant+ firebombs make some parts a breeze and his starting equipment and stats for a dex build are shockingly good.

  • @sudarshanrajendran709
    @sudarshanrajendran709 5 лет назад

    Very nice editing and explanation!

  • @ColorCodeWhite
    @ColorCodeWhite 6 лет назад +82

    Deprived 4 lyf

  • @thboss8961
    @thboss8961 5 лет назад +1

    Started souls 1 recently for the first time and picked pyro cause I wanted throw fireballs got me to the gargoyles so working so far

    • @devindawson2710
      @devindawson2710 5 лет назад +1

      Th Boss you’ve got a long way to go lol

  • @jordoink
    @jordoink 4 года назад +1

    I picked knight because i thought it was fitting but now i wanna restart

  • @tophatstudios9069
    @tophatstudios9069 Год назад

    the knight is really good with a faith hybrid build. a good paladin.

  • @flywheelshyster
    @flywheelshyster 3 года назад

    New to DS games. They may be my favorite of all time already.

  • @PenumbraPlays
    @PenumbraPlays 4 года назад

    Nicely edited video with good information. Thanks :)

  • @fernandoboueres
    @fernandoboueres 3 года назад +1

    such a great video

  • @mamamurphy4204
    @mamamurphy4204 4 года назад

    Just found this and as a soulsborne veteran this was unique

  • @elim9054
    @elim9054 4 года назад

    My first playthrough of DS1 was completely blind -- at least through the first several segments -- and my first character was a thief because, I like that whole character archetype and crit damage (at the time not knowing that "critical hits" are specific commands in this game and not random damage multipliers like in more traditional RPGs). I stuck with it through the end of the game, but my two main struggles were survivability and having consistent damage output against bosses and other enemies that you can't riposte or backstab. I actually never got lost as a result of having the master key, though I did get to get decimated by Havel within the first hour or two of gameplay.

  • @superrocki950
    @superrocki950 6 лет назад

    really nice video, and a nice format too, i sure am not in a position to say that but i really would like to see something like this to the other games of the series, at least the DS3.

  • @westleyallen9743
    @westleyallen9743 6 лет назад

    Awesome sound quality my dude👌

  • @moistyp6078
    @moistyp6078 6 лет назад

    great video man! subbed

  • @Chuck_Tarnish
    @Chuck_Tarnish 4 года назад

    Fantastic video, thanks for this!

  • @Daixoc_
    @Daixoc_ 6 лет назад

    What a great and informative video! Thanks m8!

  • @dr.dolphin9331
    @dr.dolphin9331 4 года назад

    This is an amazing video. It really helped me.

  • @KarteyKid1997
    @KarteyKid1997 4 года назад +5

    The main character feels like they should be a wanderer, I mean how else would you have the patience/will to travel the whole of lordran

  • @-C.V.N-
    @-C.V.N- 4 года назад

    The ending was cool!

  • @AngelTheButlerOfTime
    @AngelTheButlerOfTime 6 лет назад +40

    The one that makes the game harder..... Oh wait.

    • @Eli787
      @Eli787 3 года назад

      No using master key

  • @MitchLeShroomy
    @MitchLeShroomy 5 лет назад +4

    First time playing this game. I still went with master key. I just HAD to try to get goodies ahead of time. I like trying to bust a game open.

  • @brandentheultramangofighter
    @brandentheultramangofighter 4 года назад +2

    I chose the wanderer cause he looked cool

  • @SinclairLore
    @SinclairLore 6 лет назад +1

    Nice vid!

  • @rainfreeman6592
    @rainfreeman6592 Год назад

    BLOODBORNE NEEDS A VIDEO LIKE THIS PLS

  • @ZackRToler
    @ZackRToler 6 лет назад +1

    My first Dark Souls run I started as a pyro and ended as a spell sword

  • @marconihimself
    @marconihimself 5 лет назад +8

    First time souls player. Want to go for the generic warrior with sword and shield to get the ropes. Any hints on what stats I should level first in the early game and in what order?

    • @ReggieDynarmus
      @ReggieDynarmus 4 года назад +4

      Get 16 strength first, then vit and end to 20, then vit to 30, then get weapon requirements, then get endurance to 40, then do what you want

  • @Wild_Monk
    @Wild_Monk 3 года назад

    nice video man

  • @773Spair
    @773Spair 4 года назад +3

    What would you think of the classes if you kept the stats proportional to what they started with as you level them up?

  • @Turboman_64
    @Turboman_64 8 месяцев назад +2

    Nice analysis, but i can't agree with the statement that the deprived is there to make the game more difficult without a purpose.
    The club is basically the second best small strength weapon only beaten by the mace in late game and early on it out performs all other small weapons in a strength build. Also the same way you mentioned that the short bow is mere minutes away at the beginning of the game, so is a solid starting armor, thus reducing the "problem" of being naked to only the first few enemies. Furthermore the deprived class is basically the best all rounder class, having even stat distribution, so it gives you the best beginning, if you are not sure what path you want to take yet, or just want to play a kind of jack of all trades build.
    Discouraging new players to pick the deprived class is about as misleading as encouraging them to take the master key gift.

    • @ValyriaUK
      @ValyriaUK  8 месяцев назад

      Thank you for the thoughtful response.
      While in hindsight, yes. You're correct, and I don't particularly disagree. However, this guide is a quick summation of all the information a new player would need to know, formatted to be easily digestible and not overwhelming.
      From the perspective of a new player, overcoming even several basic enemies can be a challenge. They have no context of weapon types, poise, movesets, builds, or how to use any of this effectively. Hence why I believe the class is best left for subsequent playthroughs.
      Naturally, everyone is free to make their own decision regarding difficulty. It's what makes this game so special.

  • @JaredTG.
    @JaredTG. 6 лет назад

    This is a great video. Made perfect sense to me, someone who has never played the game before only other rpgs.

  • @HandsomeGamerGuy
    @HandsomeGamerGuy 6 лет назад

    Thief is nice for the Masterkey with the old Pryomancerring.

  • @machomanalexyt5736
    @machomanalexyt5736 3 года назад +3

    Question: What is the best class?
    Short answer: Deprived
    Long answer:
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  • @HoustonRay
    @HoustonRay 4 года назад +1

    I know I’m way late on this comment.. but even as a Souls veteran, I loved this! Hope to see more guides from you once the next FromSoftware game drops! #subscribed

  • @notria1533
    @notria1533 6 лет назад +1

    Pretty good keep it up

  • @TheKeikomeow1
    @TheKeikomeow1 6 лет назад

    I was so happy to see a new video pop up in my notification by you, WhiteValyria!!! Thank you for well put together video. As I am starting my journey again in Dark Souls, this was mighty educational and fun to watch!
    Any chance you could upload character creations of some good looking females for us, please (in DS remastered)?

  • @meenerman7693
    @meenerman7693 Год назад

    For me, its Warrior, zooming through the graveyard, dipping into the bone zone and hanging out with Papa Nito.
    Starting Weapon: Gravelord Greatsword

  • @razielthesniper9241
    @razielthesniper9241 5 лет назад

    and here i am with the deprieved class as a beginer to the dark souls series and am new to the controller mechanics lmao

  • @Animeatus2583
    @Animeatus2583 Год назад

    As a tarnished, i can confidently say that it is the best class of all time

  • @benjaf1058
    @benjaf1058 3 года назад

    My first class was Deprived + old witches ring

  • @alexanderstilianov
    @alexanderstilianov 4 года назад +1

    6:34 How in Nito's name did that hollow anime dash towards you from across the room?

  • @johnhamill-w3b
    @johnhamill-w3b 2 месяца назад

    What’s the best class to start with? Depends on the build you’re trying to make

  • @suicidesquash9168
    @suicidesquash9168 6 лет назад

    Now that is a good video

  • @Snow-Order66
    @Snow-Order66 10 месяцев назад

    No matter the soul game, I always choose the knight for the armor. Like come on, it's on the cover art and it looks amazing (except for the helmet in DS1, just replace it with the elite one).

  • @gysahlgemuse7208
    @gysahlgemuse7208 5 лет назад +1

    Great, I picked the Hunter for my first run :/
    btw very well made video

  • @daith_izumi
    @daith_izumi Год назад

    For me honestly, Knight and Cleric and maybe Pyromancy

  • @yimkumerjamir3639
    @yimkumerjamir3639 4 года назад

    ive never played a souls game and i started out with the rogue on the remastered. Which is how i ended up here.