does my head in when people call current fighters the best of all times, everyone's records these days is much more protected and didn't need a year off after every fight
Because the sports evolved in some ways then devolved in others. For example the skill of fighters is better and the training is better but the promoters are worse
@Kane Cantell what are you about am talking about past compared to present time you don't see fighter getting smashed up like they used to fights can be stopped on a cut now but 30 years ago it was different look at frank Bruno he says his self if it was better refed he wouldn't be like he is so things have got better in some ways
Actually Mayweather did ruin boxing. Maybe inadvertently but still. He sold the idea that being undefeated was the be all and end and if you'd lost a fight, you were considered finished. And people bought into this. Hence why fighters and promoters tend not to take risks and cherry pick to preserve their 0.
Problem with boxing is us . As fans we slag anyone off who loses one fight . And we still pay to watch people against people who they shouldn’t be in the ring with.
Well said. Why I don't watch boxing anymore is for all of these reasons. Everything is a career move to garner the most money. Not just by the boxers but everyone hanging off them.
The addition of multiple sanctioning bodies is the reason Boxing has degraded to almost Pro Wrestling levels of legitimately. The Executives of the crooked sanctioning bodies are then bribed, wined and dined by the corrupt promoters to manipulate the rankings and break rules in that promoters fighters favor. Then you end up with the possibility of having these same crooked promoters representing four different fighters being recognized as a “world champion” all at the same time. Now add the backstage politics to this and it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to understand this. It’s going to take a enormous amount of reform starting with mandatory unification of all champions in all weight classes to establish one true champ per class like in the days of legends such as Jack Dempsey, Joe Louis, Suger Ray Robinson. The bodies would be downgraded and cease to hold any relevancy all while being regarded in the same manor as minor bodies such as the IBO. This or a plan similar is the only way to begin to restore boxing to the greatness and legitimacy it once held something sadly I have little faith I will live to see in my lifetime.
Fantastic work here Propa as always! There's never been a more uninspiring champion than Floyd Mayweather. Manny donated a huge portion of his money from the fight with pretty boy!
The problems with professional boxing can be summond like this; 1. To many weight-divisions. 2. To many major organisations = WBC, WBA, IBF & WBO + The Ring Magazine title who represents the lineal championship. 3. The organisations demand only ONE title fight per YEAR! 4. Organisations like WBC & WBA have TO MANY belts out. Silver champion, Gold champion, Regular champion, Emeritus champion, Franchise champion.... it is just making them worth nothing. In the past, there was; The World title, the Interim title, The Commonwealth title, the European title, the NABF title. Back then these titles was THE championship belts to go for (depending on world region for some) and the world title was THE main goal. Simple. 5. The Networks should not be involved for getting a championship match made = They should deal that with 50/50 from airing the fight. Simple. 6. The promotors should not be in the way for making a fight the fans want regardless of if they have that fighter in there stable or not. 7. The judges corruption and biases....the oldest problem there is. 8. The fights are not universally regulated with anti-drug tests in a regulated system. 9. Fighters today are simply put work lazy. They fight to less and having only 1-3 fights per year is just not enough. Fighters just back in the 80's fought 3-5 times a year as champions! Today many just come out 1 or 2 times at top a year. 10. That freakin "0". To many fighters take a false pride in being undefeated - despite that means NOTHING if you have not fought any serious opposition. A fighter who have losses, but still been a true level boxer and/or go for avenging those losses improve career legacy. Not by pretending. 11. Chreey picking - That freakin cherry picking to constantly see boxers pick easy fights and avoidence of opponents that are both better and more deserving. To many journymen level gets miltiple shots while the really good ones have to stand in a long time wait and only at mandatory get that shot! To many great boxers grow old and loses there prime years because of this. Sonny Liston, Luis Ortiz, Marvin Hagler etc had to wait far to long. 12. Diva mentality from fighters like Floyd Mayweather Jr. - No matter how skilled you are, portraying as a diva, greedy and better then evreyone is tasteless, disrespectfull, classless and insulting to the sport. 13. Race baiting in ANY sport is not okay. It is not okay to bring toxic race politics into it. Regardless of skin color or ethicity, all boxers are the same worth and all boxers are on the same line to recieve praise, admiration, critisism and legitimate frustration from fans & critics when doing questionble decisions.
Spot fkn on Propa!! Promoters petty jealousies against ea other & judges who are either crooked or don't know what a scoring punch is are ruining the sport. When did they stop giving refs judging responsibilities? Three weights per weight, five belts per weight? Uber drivers can win belts these days.
Floyd definitely ruined boxing for a decade at least. I appreciate how great he is but I've never wanted to watch his fights twice, unless I had trouble sleeping.
Intresting fact Muhammad Ali vs Joe Frazier was the first ever heavyweight world title fight with two undefeated boxers, keep in mind the first belt had been awarded almost 100 years ago at that point and this only occured because of Ali going to Jail. Due to the success of this fight it then sparked some to start padding records although it was still uncommon, but started to become more common as the decades rolled on, until bascially Mayweather and then it became standard practice.
It's so unfriendly for newcomer fans too. With the network thing, so many belts and guys with "perfect records" out there you've got no clue what fight to look forward to except for when the big names are featured, while the two main sports I follow, Football and Tennis, have easy to distinguish rankings and tournaments. It's almost as if the people in charge didn't want more fans, which is a disgrace as I grew up watching Ali repeats and would love to finally get on track.
The older I get, the more the list grows of fights that never happened, of the best fighting the best whilst in their prime, this is leading to my continued waning of interest in the sport of boxing, I've watched entire careers go by without the fighter in question ever being truly tested.
Exactly why I stopped watching boxing and prefer ufc now. We rarely see match ups that we want in boxing since tyson era. Refs stop it too quick now too
i invite all boxing fans to watch mma, if you dont like the ufc for whatever reason, one championship is great as well or theres tons of other promotions small or big across the world
Half a Billy and I will fight both Fury & Joshua at same time even if I drop quicker than Uzzy thats like 59 million a second to land square on my chocolate hoop , even Uncle propa would commend me and say you know what fair play sweet child of mine fair play BUT what a useless helmet
If fury refuses to fight AJ he will NEVER be counted as having beaten the best of his era. I mean my god, he’s only beat an old klitschko and wilder. And he says he’s retiring because ‘there’s always going to be someone else to fight’ ? That’s called a boxing career Tyson. When Ali was at 32 fights you didn’t see him saying that- he went on to have ANOTHER THIRTY FIGHTS all through the 1970’s beating the best of that era as well. Still the ONLY 3 time lineal heavyweight champion, and the only man to ever KO foreman in George’s 81 fights. Fury is TERRIFIED of losing his ‘0’ that’s why he’s retiring. Thinks he can sit with Rocky Marciano lol FORTY NINE FIGHTS unbeaten. I can’t think of ANY GREAT FIGHTER WHO RETIRED AT 32 FIGHTS. Sugar ray Robinson had 193 fights!!
I used to have HBO, showtime, EspN and USA Tuesday night fights. I always had The Ring magazine and watched fights two, three times a week. Now, I see a fight on RUclips every couple of weeks and they are almost never a competitive match up.
It's not the fighters' fault they don't fight the best competition. The promoters don't want to split purses with other promoters. Every promoter's default setting is the all-Top-Rank card, the all-Golden-Boy card, the all-Matchroom card, etc. If the best two fighters in a weight class are under exclusive contract with different promoters, that fight's never gonna happen. Plus, the promoters are risk-averse. They protect their investments. De la Hoya knows he can make a fortune out of Garcia fighting nothing but B+ fighters. "Why risk my golden goose against REAL competition?" Someday Garcia will be emailed a championship, perhaps more than one, so that the sanctioning bodies can take a percentage, but he'll never fight any of the dozen or so guys in his general weight range who could puncture his 0. And he's not the only one. And again, it's not his fault.
In the old days before TV or at least adequate TV, a number of judges, three of course were located at different points around the ring. This gave an overall picture of the fight and each judge scored the fight on what they saw. These days however the judges should rule on the same fight we are all seeing. There is actually no need for them to even be ringside. They should watch the fight on TV as we do and judge the same fight that we see. Nothing pisses me of more than a judge getting a score so far wrong. This goes to the credibility of the sport. Make them all watch the same fight and judge the same fight. Let them see the slow motion, the replays, the whole bit. The old judging method was necessary in it's day but like all other sports, let's developed judging in light of modern technology.
Boxing isn't like other sports mainly because there is more at stake. Other sportsman don't put anywhere near as much on the line as a fighter does when he enters the ring. In the old days, fighters were hungrier and fought more regularly and against whoever. Mismatched fighters were allowed to pummel each other into oblivion and there were a lot of tragedies . These days the money is so exorbitant at the top level that they are able to stall and pick and choose. Why wouldn't you? There is a lot on the line...your health...perhaps your life. Professional fighters at any weight level hit like sledge hammers to the head.
What else is wrong with boxing? The media covered the KSI thing last night, what a joke, seen way better fights at closing time in the local, c'mon now
Sadly depressing in its accuracy, this video. I used to bet on boxing a fair bit, but there came a point where I realised I was betting against the judges. I've even heard that one judge has Canelo winning the third GGG fight 115-113, he's just waiting to hand his scorecard in.
Went for a bike ride to Wilmslow today and bumped into Tyson, John and Shane Fury having lunch with a few of Tyson's kids. Heard Tyson before I saw him. They were being filmed for what sounded like a birthday celebration. Tyson looked in great shape. Shane was his usual oafish self. John just sat there at the table outside the cafe taking it all in with a look on his face that said "what the frig is all this nonsense about" 😂
Fabulous presentation. I loved the way you used the recent ROBBERY by Josh Taylor over Jack Caterall who battered him from pillar to post for 10 of the 12 rounds and......lost. Boxing is perhaps the most corrupt sport. Kudos to Bud Crawford for posting the video of why his fight with Spence Jr. was plumped....
"Give me 500million and I'll fight for free!" I know I'm not British and I speak many other languages but, even if my English was that bad, my ears and eyes aren't, it's like saying the Sun is ultra-hot bright but, you can stare straight into it or any other oxymoron statement you can think of. AJ Fury isn't the only fight people will like to see, lose or not, people still want to see the Wilder AJ, Wilder Andy, Ruiz Fury, Ruiz Usyk, Usyk Wilder, Usyk Fury, none of them is the king of his era until they've all fought each other and have an undisputed champion. If they miss this prime, younger generation will come in and kick them all out of the throne and it will be history.
Corruption is destroying the sport cash is king in the ring talk is cheap but boxing is definitely not women's boxing is more exciting just now unlike all these jammie dodgers and shite fights there pathetic
Wow just come across this guy and his posts, all I can say is absolutely wow fkn brilliant just fkn brilliant ended up watching all of his vids this guy had ne laughing for ages thus is exactly how it should be funny yet close to the point or actually stating some facts definitely following and sharing his posts so from me alone he will get a massive following boost at least all my followers will sub to him so at least 1 more follower for sure. Can't wait next fight hopefully will discuss the fight look frwrd to that respect...
Now it will be Spence-Crawford and Fury-Joshua....November and then December....and Golovkin-Alvarez this weekend......the big fights are being made........the REAL problem with boxing is CTE.
Rematch clauses have delayed the heavy weight decision by almost 4 years. If Wilder and Joshua hadn't had them we'd of had an undisputed unified champ already. When Ali first lost to Frazier he had to fight his way back until he got the foreman shot a few years later. Why shouldn't Wilder and Joshua have had to have done that to?
This is why MMA, specifically the UFC is the best now. All the top fighters have to fight each other, it means every card is amazing and you always know who the best really is. Such a shame because I grew up loving boxing but MMA had pulled me away. :(
Stop talking nonsense. All the best fighters do not fight each other in MMA. And you don’t know who the best is when there are multiple MMA organisations around the world. Don’t be a UFCult clown 🤡.
@@al.mandez6721 sorry where did I say I don’t like boxing? I love boxing at the British level as there is no corruption or fighters avoiding fights. However MMA is levels above boxing in today’s world.
Unfortunately Boxing fans are being ripped off with pay per view , 🙄it’s turned into a pantomime with stupid costumes and ring walks , trash talk like American wrestling . Padded records 😬 how and earth did Deontay Wilder hold any belts has absolutely no boxing skills, poor sod will probably have dementia after those last two fights. Heavy weight boxing has declined massively ,we have seen the last of the tested champions, Deontay hardest hitting heavy weight , what a joke yet the casual boxing fans speak it parrot fashion.🙄🙄 George Forman, Ron Lyle , Ernie Shavers , Sony Liston if you want to see hard hitters.👍 Heavy weight boxing is dead 😔
**no draws (total punches landed, in case of equal points)** **No rematch clauses** **Life ban for second offence drug violation** **Mandatory 3× annual title defences** **Compulsory belt unification fights**
Dear Uncle Propa, The only way to fix the numerous problems that are currently running a mock in this once wonderful and revered sport is to remove the idiots that are responsible for its hasty demise. We are also to blame. So, as much as I don't like the sound of this proposal, until it starts to show it has regained its sanity, I'm boycotting PPV boxing, for example, or any televised boxing, and I will from now watch it via the less savory means available. Oh yes, and I can do this totally for free. Thus, my problem is solved!
The only sport I can think of where the sportsmen and especially the audience don't know the score for the whole match up at all, not even between rounds, just hidden like its a secret until the end is bizarre. I feel a lot more fights would end much better if one knows they are losing the bout. And the fights in general would be more enjoyable for the viewers if a fighter knows what he's doing isn't scoring so well.. as I feel a lot of boxers don't switch it up because nobody has any fucking idea where they stand score wise. It's the strangest thing really. Ultimately it just leads to accusations of backhand corruption, justifiably with some awful daylight robbery decisions happening every year.. Open scoring for sure, and maybe 5 judges 3 for a majority. Either way it needs modernising and fighters required to fight by deadline or lose rankings.. It's a complete mess at the moment taking literally years in between fights.
Separate prize fighting out of contention for belts? It's the mandatory fights system that seems to have broken down/ not challenged the return to prize fighting? Put those on the same level as the wrestling mess and let real contenders fight for belts. You may have found the solution ... boxing leagues ...and a separate champions (prize fighting) league. Sorted 😃
Even though this is a comedy channel I can feel the frustration behind this video. If some much needed changes were made to the sport it could easily rival the popularity of the 70s - it's like a 10/10 bird who eats Maccies all day long, cuts her hair off and hides indoors. So much wasted potential!!
The great Archie Moore had 220 bouts winning 186 of them losing to only the elite like Ali, Marciano, Patterson and Charles. Now thats legacy worthy stuff
It's mainly all the American promoters , their fill of greed and jealousy , they don't wanna give other promotions limelight or fighters that aren't from their promotion , Leonard Ellerbe is the prime example , look what their diong with Ryan and tank Davis they keep putting these dudes with a bunch of scrubs just so they can keep their record clean , it's the promoters that have ruined it and they don't care they will continue operating their way
It's the quickest way to make money with minimal risk Its down to advisers, management and promoters Protecting the investment,not the fighters interest ,🤜🤜
I’m a boxing fan and I’m saddened to see the demise of boxing and its legacy. Greed destroys it as we don’t get to see the best of the best going against each other.
I grew up with boxing I considered raw, honest and thrilling. I watched Hearns, Sugar Ray, Hagler, Benn, McGuigan, Ali, Foreman, Tyson, Watson, Spinks. Alan Minter anyone ? John Cometh, Joe Bugner, Kirklaind Lang, Lloyd Honeyghan, Steve Collins. It was my life and they were my heroes. When Iron Mike's career ended, so did that era for me. For me they remain the golden years. Today's fighters just don't engage me like they used to, is not the same sport. And MM f***ing A 'fighters' should stick to the playground... Boxing has been been destroyed. But I have a shelf full of home recorded vhs tapes to hold my memories dear. Greatest fight ever for me ? Benn v McClellan... thoughts always with McClellan and Michael Watson. True warriors...
does my head in when people call current fighters the best of all times, everyone's records these days is much more protected and didn't need a year off after every fight
But look how many have brain damage out of the old fighter
Because the sports evolved in some ways then devolved in others. For example the skill of fighters is better and the training is better but the promoters are worse
@Kane Cantell what are you about am talking about past compared to present time you don't see fighter getting smashed up like they used to fights can be stopped on a cut now but 30 years ago it was different look at frank Bruno he says his self if it was better refed he wouldn't be like he is so things have got better in some ways
UFC talk this shit every time theirs a new champ !
Spot on
You have comedically described boxing with 100% accuracy. Amazing work as always! BOSH!!
Rubbish it's the most inaccurate video ever. Bigoted one sided and deliberately overlooking many things.
@@rocroca7459 oh look, I've found Frank Warren's RUclips account!
@@jimsicle nope!
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Actually Mayweather did ruin boxing. Maybe inadvertently but still. He sold the idea that being undefeated was the be all and end and if you'd lost a fight, you were considered finished. And people bought into this. Hence why fighters and promoters tend not to take risks and cherry pick to preserve their 0.
they were doing that well before Mayweather started bragging
@@ahmedrahim2500mayweather popularized it
One problem with this channel. You don't bring enough videos out, I want one twice a day.
Tyson Fury - I'll fight him for free in England
*2 hours later*
Tyson Fury - I'll fight him for half a Billion in Saudi Arabia
Problem with boxing is us . As fans we slag anyone off who loses one fight . And we still pay to watch people against people who they shouldn’t be in the ring with.
Honest and candid here….
Omfg finally someone says it 😮💨
Facts
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Speak for yourself dude but yes I agree
Well said. Why I don't watch boxing anymore is for all of these reasons. Everything is a career move to garner the most money. Not just by the boxers but everyone hanging off them.
The addition of multiple sanctioning bodies is the reason Boxing has degraded to almost Pro Wrestling levels of legitimately. The Executives of the crooked sanctioning bodies are then bribed, wined and dined by the corrupt promoters to manipulate the rankings and break rules in that promoters fighters favor. Then you end up with the possibility of having these same crooked promoters representing four different fighters being recognized as a “world champion” all at the same time. Now add the backstage politics to this and it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to understand this. It’s going to take a enormous amount of reform starting with mandatory unification of all champions in all weight classes to establish one true champ per class like in the days of legends such as Jack Dempsey, Joe Louis, Suger Ray Robinson. The bodies would be downgraded and cease to hold any relevancy all while being regarded in the same manor as minor bodies such as the IBO. This or a plan similar is the only way to begin to restore boxing to the greatness and legitimacy it once held something sadly I have little faith I will live to see in my lifetime.
Fantastic work here Propa as always! There's never been a more uninspiring champion than Floyd Mayweather. Manny donated a huge portion of his money from the fight with pretty boy!
The managers are the problem - They are blocking risky fights to wait for a payday because if their fighter lose's their value goes down
Yep
The problems with professional boxing can be summond like this;
1. To many weight-divisions.
2. To many major organisations = WBC, WBA, IBF & WBO + The Ring Magazine title who represents the lineal championship.
3. The organisations demand only ONE title fight per YEAR!
4. Organisations like WBC & WBA have TO MANY belts out. Silver champion, Gold champion, Regular champion, Emeritus champion, Franchise champion.... it is
just making them worth nothing. In the past, there was; The World title, the Interim title, The Commonwealth title, the European title, the NABF title.
Back then these titles was THE championship belts to go for (depending on world region for some) and the world title was THE main goal. Simple.
5. The Networks should not be involved for getting a championship match made = They should deal that with 50/50 from airing the fight. Simple.
6. The promotors should not be in the way for making a fight the fans want regardless of if they have that fighter in there stable or not.
7. The judges corruption and biases....the oldest problem there is.
8. The fights are not universally regulated with anti-drug tests in a regulated system.
9. Fighters today are simply put work lazy. They fight to less and having only 1-3 fights per year is just not enough. Fighters just back in the 80's fought 3-5 times a
year as champions! Today many just come out 1 or 2 times at top a year.
10. That freakin "0". To many fighters take a false pride in being undefeated - despite that means NOTHING if you have not fought any serious opposition.
A fighter who have losses, but still been a true level boxer and/or go for avenging those losses improve career legacy. Not by pretending.
11. Chreey picking - That freakin cherry picking to constantly see boxers pick easy fights and avoidence of opponents that are both better and more deserving.
To many journymen level gets miltiple shots while the really good ones have to stand in a long time wait and only at mandatory get that shot!
To many great boxers grow old and loses there prime years because of this. Sonny Liston, Luis Ortiz, Marvin Hagler etc had to wait far to long.
12. Diva mentality from fighters like Floyd Mayweather Jr. - No matter how skilled you are, portraying as a diva, greedy and better then evreyone is tasteless,
disrespectfull, classless and insulting to the sport.
13. Race baiting in ANY sport is not okay. It is not okay to bring toxic race politics into it. Regardless of skin color or ethicity, all boxers are the same worth and all
boxers are on the same line to recieve praise, admiration, critisism and legitimate frustration from fans & critics when doing questionble decisions.
Facts and truth bombs from uncle Propa. Spot on double bosh👊👊🥊
Simply put in one word, MONEY.
Spot fkn on Propa!!
Promoters petty jealousies against ea other & judges who are either crooked or don't know what a scoring punch is are ruining the sport.
When did they stop giving refs judging responsibilities?
Three weights per weight, five belts per weight? Uber drivers can win belts these days.
Floyd definitely ruined boxing for a decade at least. I appreciate how great he is but I've never wanted to watch his fights twice, unless I had trouble sleeping.
Intresting fact Muhammad Ali vs Joe Frazier was the first ever heavyweight world title fight with two undefeated boxers, keep in mind the first belt had been awarded almost 100 years ago at that point and this only occured because of Ali going to Jail. Due to the success of this fight it then sparked some to start padding records although it was still uncommon, but started to become more common as the decades rolled on, until bascially Mayweather and then it became standard practice.
As funny as that was it is accurate. Promoters are the biggest problem in boxing. Any other problem is a distant 2nd
This videos become more and more relevant in the weeks since you made this
Spot on, you’re now RUclipss best boxing channel.
Proper channel keep it up uncle you will blow up bosh
Love the proper vids keep them coming, top quality.
It's so unfriendly for newcomer fans too. With the network thing, so many belts and guys with "perfect records" out there you've got no clue what fight to look forward to except for when the big names are featured, while the two main sports I follow, Football and Tennis, have easy to distinguish rankings and tournaments. It's almost as if the people in charge didn't want more fans, which is a disgrace as I grew up watching Ali repeats and would love to finally get on track.
The older I get, the more the list grows of fights that never happened, of the best fighting the best whilst in their prime, this is leading to my continued waning of interest in the sport of boxing, I've watched entire careers go by without the fighter in question ever being truly tested.
Give him 500 million and he'll fight joshua for free 😂
Simple. Lol
Nice one for putting Catterall's robbery in there. Fkd boxing off pretty much these days, ufc and ONE baby!
Exactly why I stopped watching boxing and prefer ufc now. We rarely see match ups that we want in boxing since tyson era.
Refs stop it too quick now too
Mayweather is actually all of these reasons. Nearly all of what’s wrong with boxing stems from the “Money” Mayweather persona in the late 00s-2010s.
i invite all boxing fans to watch mma, if you dont like the ufc for whatever reason, one championship is great as well or theres tons of other promotions small or big across the world
Yes One championship is definitely worth your time
Facts and then you have these influencer fighters that fight bums and then call out professionals💀
keep smashing it propa
Half a Billy and I will fight both Fury & Joshua at same time even if I drop quicker than Uzzy thats like 59 million a second to land square on my chocolate hoop , even Uncle propa would commend me and say you know what fair play sweet child of mine fair play BUT what a useless helmet
3 or 4 world chapions at each weight? "There can be only ONE"
Couldn't have said it better. Bang on!
Only thing I'd add is the inactivity of the top fighters because of all of this. So frustrating!
If fury refuses to fight AJ he will NEVER be counted as having beaten the best of his era. I mean my god, he’s only beat an old klitschko and wilder. And he says he’s retiring because ‘there’s always going to be someone else to fight’ ? That’s called a boxing career Tyson. When Ali was at 32 fights you didn’t see him saying that- he went on to have ANOTHER THIRTY FIGHTS all through the 1970’s beating the best of that era as well. Still the ONLY 3 time lineal heavyweight champion, and the only man to ever KO foreman in George’s 81 fights. Fury is TERRIFIED of losing his ‘0’ that’s why he’s retiring. Thinks he can sit with Rocky Marciano lol FORTY NINE FIGHTS unbeaten. I can’t think of ANY GREAT FIGHTER WHO RETIRED AT 32 FIGHTS. Sugar ray Robinson had 193 fights!!
That traffic light comment was epic lol
I used to have HBO, showtime, EspN and USA Tuesday night fights. I always had The Ring magazine and watched fights two, three times a week. Now, I see a fight on RUclips every couple of weeks and they are almost never a competitive match up.
It's not the fighters' fault they don't fight the best competition. The promoters don't want to split purses with other promoters. Every promoter's default setting is the all-Top-Rank card, the all-Golden-Boy card, the all-Matchroom card, etc. If the best two fighters in a weight class are under exclusive contract with different promoters, that fight's never gonna happen.
Plus, the promoters are risk-averse. They protect their investments. De la Hoya knows he can make a fortune out of Garcia fighting nothing but B+ fighters. "Why risk my golden goose against REAL competition?" Someday Garcia will be emailed a championship, perhaps more than one, so that the sanctioning bodies can take a percentage, but he'll never fight any of the dozen or so guys in his general weight range who could puncture his 0. And he's not the only one. And again, it's not his fault.
corrupt judges, money, drugs, cheating, hype jobs, bum fights, casual fans, PPV,...Was a boxing fan since 4 years old, can't stand the sport now
Mayweather doesn't bother me at all. If I had my way, he would be as big a draw as Terence Crawford. I couldn't care less about him.
Skipped characters like Daniel Kinahan...
In the old days before TV or at least adequate TV, a number of judges, three of course were located at different points around the ring. This gave an overall picture of the fight and each judge scored the fight on what they saw. These days however the judges should rule on the same fight we are all seeing. There is actually no need for them to even be ringside. They should watch the fight on TV as we do and judge the same fight that we see. Nothing pisses me of more than a judge getting a score so far wrong. This goes to the credibility of the sport. Make them all watch the same fight and judge the same fight. Let them see the slow motion, the replays, the whole bit. The old judging method was necessary in it's day but like all other sports, let's developed judging in light of modern technology.
Boxing isn't like other sports mainly because there is more at stake. Other sportsman don't put anywhere near as much on the line as a fighter does when he enters the ring. In the old days, fighters were hungrier and fought more regularly and against whoever. Mismatched fighters were allowed to pummel each other into oblivion and there were a lot of tragedies . These days the money is so exorbitant at the top level that they are able to stall and pick and choose. Why wouldn't you? There is a lot on the line...your health...perhaps your life. Professional fighters at any weight level hit like sledge hammers to the head.
What else is wrong with boxing? The media covered the KSI thing last night, what a joke, seen way better fights at closing time in the local, c'mon now
Like most sports they have all been ruined by money and greed, just like most things in this world. Money and greed corrupts most people
I love the reoccuring stick that Floyd gets from uncle propa 😂
The fact that Mayweather fights these people in exibition matches just to look good 😂😂😂.
Froch v groves 1 was a cracking fight.
Sadly depressing in its accuracy, this video. I used to bet on boxing a fair bit, but there came a point where I realised I was betting against the judges. I've even heard that one judge has Canelo winning the third GGG fight 115-113, he's just waiting to hand his scorecard in.
Oh cmon ur just making shit up now , theirs no proof of that
Went for a bike ride to Wilmslow today and bumped into Tyson, John and Shane Fury having lunch with a few of Tyson's kids. Heard Tyson before I saw him. They were being filmed for what sounded like a birthday celebration.
Tyson looked in great shape. Shane was his usual oafish self. John just sat there at the table outside the cafe taking it all in with a look on his face that said "what the frig is all this nonsense about" 😂
Fabulous presentation. I loved the way you used the recent ROBBERY by Josh Taylor over Jack Caterall who battered him from pillar to post for 10 of the 12 rounds and......lost. Boxing is perhaps the most corrupt sport.
Kudos to Bud Crawford for posting the video of why his fight with Spence Jr. was plumped....
"Give me 500million and I'll fight for free!" I know I'm not British and I speak many other languages but, even if my English was that bad, my ears and eyes aren't, it's like saying the Sun is ultra-hot bright but, you can stare straight into it or any other oxymoron statement you can think of.
AJ Fury isn't the only fight people will like to see, lose or not, people still want to see the Wilder AJ, Wilder Andy, Ruiz Fury, Ruiz Usyk, Usyk Wilder, Usyk Fury, none of them is the king of his era until they've all fought each other and have an undisputed champion. If they miss this prime, younger generation will come in and kick them all out of the throne and it will be history.
Adelaide Byrd is to scoring what Gandhi was to power lifting. She should never be allowed anywhere near a fight again.
Yet she’s still working big fights. Unbelievable.
@@luke125 Seriously?! I didn't know that.
This is exactly why UFC has overtaken boxing
Another clown comparing an American monopoly company to a worldwide sport.
Football is the best sport in the world. Lets be honest
Corruption is destroying the sport cash is king in the ring talk is cheap but boxing is definitely not women's boxing is more exciting just now unlike all these jammie dodgers and shite fights there pathetic
Yet another truth bomb by ‘Old Uncle Propa……..Bosh 💣 💥👊🏻
I'll make it even more succinct, - the Hearns.
Wow just come across this guy and his posts, all I can say is absolutely wow fkn brilliant just fkn brilliant ended up watching all of his vids this guy had ne laughing for ages thus is exactly how it should be funny yet close to the point or actually stating some facts definitely following and sharing his posts so from me alone he will get a massive following boost at least all my followers will sub to him so at least 1 more follower for sure. Can't wait next fight hopefully will discuss the fight look frwrd to that respect...
A good friend of mine was a pro boxer & gave up after his fight with Audley Harrison due to his promoter, he now runs his own gym in Chingford.
its sad that its funny but its funny because its sad
Make the referee a third judge, and have only 1/2 belts, Bosh!
Can’t have 2 belts in a sport of thousands of fighters
Now it will be Spence-Crawford and Fury-Joshua....November and then December....and Golovkin-Alvarez this weekend......the big fights are being made........the REAL problem with boxing is CTE.
Too many belts that are only there to get sanctioning fees, and some how make a "silver diamond intermediate super duper belt" fight a PPV
You struck a a lot of exposed nerves with that bud, and made me chuckle. Good work. 👍
Rematch clauses have delayed the heavy weight decision by almost 4 years. If Wilder and Joshua hadn't had them we'd of had an undisputed unified champ already. When Ali first lost to Frazier he had to fight his way back until he got the foreman shot a few years later. Why shouldn't Wilder and Joshua have had to have done that to?
This is why MMA, specifically the UFC is the best now. All the top fighters have to fight each other, it means every card is amazing and you always know who the best really is.
Such a shame because I grew up loving boxing but MMA had pulled me away. :(
Stop talking nonsense. All the best fighters do not fight each other in MMA. And you don’t know who the best is when there are multiple MMA organisations around the world. Don’t be a UFCult clown 🤡.
@@joco2826 okay buddy, you’re entitled to your opinion. :)
@@aidenstake no you sound silly. Why not like both? Your just an mma fan girl.
@@al.mandez6721 sorry where did I say I don’t like boxing? I love boxing at the British level as there is no corruption or fighters avoiding fights. However MMA is levels above boxing in today’s world.
There should be one champion per weight class. That's the biggest issue in boxing to me. There should only be one heavyweight champion.
Is Eddie Hearn "a good guy" ? @2:50
Give me half a billion and I will fight him for free!! Spat my coffee.
Unfortunately Boxing fans are being ripped off with pay per view , 🙄it’s turned into a pantomime with stupid costumes and ring walks , trash talk like American wrestling . Padded records 😬 how and earth did Deontay Wilder hold any belts has absolutely no boxing skills, poor sod will probably have dementia after those last two fights. Heavy weight boxing has declined massively ,we have seen the last of the tested champions, Deontay hardest hitting heavy weight , what a joke yet the casual boxing fans speak it parrot fashion.🙄🙄 George Forman, Ron Lyle , Ernie Shavers , Sony Liston if you want to see hard hitters.👍 Heavy weight boxing is dead 😔
Well said used to love boxing now a fighter is an investment who can't lose so they fight bin men, that's why I like ufc better BOSH
Thank you PROPA for touching me in all the wrong places. Get in there my son!!!
No1 youtube content provider award 2022 goes to PROPAaaaaaaaa!!!!!
**no draws (total punches landed, in case of equal points)**
**No rematch clauses**
**Life ban for second offence drug violation**
**Mandatory 3× annual title defences**
**Compulsory belt unification fights**
Dear Uncle Propa,
The only way to fix the numerous problems that are currently running a mock in this once wonderful and revered sport is to remove the idiots that are responsible for its hasty demise. We are also to blame. So, as much as I don't like the sound of this proposal, until it starts to show it has regained its sanity, I'm boycotting PPV boxing, for example, or any televised boxing, and I will from now watch it via the less savory means available. Oh yes, and I can do this totally for free. Thus, my problem is solved!
The only sport I can think of where the sportsmen and especially the audience don't know the score for the whole match up at all, not even between rounds, just hidden like its a secret until the end is bizarre. I feel a lot more fights would end much better if one knows they are losing the bout. And the fights in general would be more enjoyable for the viewers if a fighter knows what he's doing isn't scoring so well.. as I feel a lot of boxers don't switch it up because nobody has any fucking idea where they stand score wise. It's the strangest thing really. Ultimately it just leads to accusations of backhand corruption, justifiably with some awful daylight robbery decisions happening every year..
Open scoring for sure, and maybe 5 judges 3 for a majority.
Either way it needs modernising and fighters required to fight by deadline or lose rankings.. It's a complete mess at the moment taking literally years in between fights.
Separate prize fighting out of contention for belts? It's the mandatory fights system that seems to have broken down/ not challenged the return to prize fighting? Put those on the same level as the wrestling mess and let real contenders fight for belts. You may have found the solution ... boxing leagues ...and a separate champions (prize fighting) league. Sorted 😃
Boxing needs a league where everyone fights everyone
No it doesn’t. That’s not possible.
Even though this is a comedy channel I can feel the frustration behind this video. If some much needed changes were made to the sport it could easily rival the popularity of the 70s - it's like a 10/10 bird who eats Maccies all day long, cuts her hair off and hides indoors. So much wasted potential!!
Boxing need an organitation like the ufc to make the better fights happen or this will never end
No it doesn’t. Prize fighting should never be under the control of American Hardcore Monopoly Capatalists like the UFC.
@@joco2826 is not like now is controlled by honest people
The great Archie Moore had 220 bouts winning 186 of them losing to only the elite like Ali, Marciano, Patterson and Charles. Now thats legacy worthy stuff
It's mainly all the American promoters , their fill of greed and jealousy , they don't wanna give other promotions limelight or fighters that aren't from their promotion , Leonard Ellerbe is the prime example , look what their diong with Ryan and tank Davis they keep putting these dudes with a bunch of scrubs just so they can keep their record clean , it's the promoters that have ruined it and they don't care they will continue operating their way
Unfortunately mate most sport is corrupt one way or another and its the fans that suffer
Get back to the pub with that predictable banter will ya
I wonder if A.I judges will ever be a thing - could minimise the bullshit decisions, the lack of impartiality, or the corruption of judges.
It's the quickest way to make money with minimal risk
Its down to advisers, management and promoters
Protecting the investment,not the fighters interest
,🤜🤜
I really can't stand RUclips boxing hate seeing KSI, the Paul's And all the others think there the new Mike tysons 🙄
The fans are to blame as well, they keep buying these shit PPV's and chucking around 'Well he lost to so and so' 10 years ago so he isn't the best.
When the circus gets ridiculous, walk away. Only after, will a new model appear, to fill the void.
Why do you copy the fart sound from Critical Drinker ? You are talented enough, you don't need this.
Boxing was finished for me a few years ago its all blatant wrestling and corruption now but i love your videos😂
I’m a boxing fan and I’m saddened to see the demise of boxing and its legacy. Greed destroys it as we don’t get to see the best of the best going against each other.
Hahaha 'Just give Fury £500 million and he'll fight Joshua for free!' 😂
Na, that Grimsby reference was literally backwards. Not hard is it. Fuck me
Boxing is broken
“Give Fury 500 million and he’ll fight Joshua for free” 😂😂
I liked it before I even watched it
Ong
LOL Pay me £500,000,000.00 And I'll fight him for free LOL
You are the absolute propa nutz, uncle props. Get this man to gold status.
Fury hasn't been good for boxing since his return he's given is a few good fights but he's not done as much as the fanboys think
Fr bro somebody say’s it
At least he exposed wilders true level tho.
Spot on acutely said in humerus way but fuck was you spot on 😂😂
My mate says he will take you on, he's always been a gobby git. Bring it.
I grew up with boxing I considered raw, honest and thrilling. I watched Hearns, Sugar Ray, Hagler, Benn, McGuigan, Ali, Foreman, Tyson, Watson, Spinks. Alan Minter anyone ? John Cometh, Joe Bugner, Kirklaind Lang, Lloyd Honeyghan, Steve Collins. It was my life and they were my heroes. When Iron Mike's career ended, so did that era for me. For me they remain the golden years. Today's fighters just don't engage me like they used to, is not the same sport. And MM f***ing A 'fighters' should stick to the playground... Boxing has been been destroyed. But I have a shelf full of home recorded vhs tapes to hold my memories dear. Greatest fight ever for me ? Benn v McClellan... thoughts always with McClellan and Michael Watson. True warriors...