Why is it the tax payers fault that during the most economically prosperous time people weren’t saving for their future? Should have worked harder when they were younger
'Starmer the granny harmer' should reverse this decision & perhaps consider taking MPs housing allowance away instead 🤔 oh wait, he won't do that, their second homes need heating over winter 😂
Well done Sharon 😊 I really respect you & Unite to come out fighting for decency against a insufferable act of cruelty against the pensioners , you give me hope with this current Champagne 🥂 Socialist Useless Uriah heep Starmer 😊 certainly not the Labour of yester year loved & respected by the nation . Politics has sadly gone to the dregs , but up you pop Unite & fresh air can still turn the tide . Respect & keep your voice heard for the vulnerable in society its the only way in a decent caring society 😊
Unfortunately the conference vote was non-binding and judged by Starmer's non-compromising attitude thus far, it is likely the Winter Fuel payment cut will proceed
Well Done Labour Conference Delegates 👍👍 -- who voted for the well-beings of Pensioners.Pensioners who have contributed all their lives for the Country! TwoTierKeir 🤖Free Gear Keir 🥸 TwoBlockedEars 🙉 should be ashamed of choosing overseas aid over freezing OAPs!😡😡
I believe they are misguided for supporting labour but I have respect for the vote. This Labour party is not for the people, does not care about the working class and will bring this country to its knees.
@@oldmare444They’re advocating for either an untenable small party (eg the Greens or the Workers Party), a hypothetical party with no as-yet proven basis in reality or actual electoral potential, or (and I shudder to contemplate this) Reform UK.
The fact that Starmer's Labour is what the UK got after years of suffering through the Tories is so depressing; with a bullet proof majority for at least 5 years to boot.
You had a chance to vote for another party who would have helped the people over the rich but you blew it. I am from the US but even I could see the labor party wasn't what it used to be under Jeremy Corbyn.
small minded thinking people who need the money will still get it it's just not a blanket government donation to energy companies via pensioners anymore frees up money in the budget for GB Energy, which will make electricity prices cheaper for everyone
"THAT WAS CARRIED" 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏and that's how the great majority of people feel in this country, a respect for our pensioners. Should have had a vote on all the thousands of pounds accepted in FREEBIES!!!
We haven’t got what we voted for for the last 15 years…there’s not a lot of point voting. Let’s not forget Starmer himself would not accept to a democratic vote not that long ago.
From CNN 'Public records showed that Starmer had accepted tens of thousands of pounds in gifts from a key financial donor, including money for clothes and glasses' - Wow!
Interesting to watch the voting! All the young lackeys in the front rows voted against the motion. Probably the “ brilliant” young minds advising Starmer and Reeves on policy rather than the experienced party politicians that are very quiet on the WFA!
They probably think that every pensioner is getting the WFA. I just wish that journalists of all colours would correct one misconception : Could somebody PLEASE point out two facts: One - the WFA is per household, so a couple under 80 years old get £100 each, a single pensioner under 80 gets £200. Two - over 80 years old, the WFA is £300. I presume it's divided the same way.
@@sandradavies7804 27% of pensioners are millionaires, they absolutely should not be getting WFA, also, WFA isn't going away, it's just going to those who actually need it.
@@overthemoon34 It depends on the definition of millionaire. True, house prices have risen so much (especially in the south) that on paper some pensioners may well be "millionaires". But you can't pay bills with bricks and mortar and saying "then move and downsize" isn't always straightforward. And you won't find many of these "property millionaires" in the north of England.
@@sandradavies7804 They're still millionaires, they're CHOOSING not to sell property worth £1m and downsize to support their lifestyle, like most people do.
Quite frankly, millionaires should not be given handouts. Struggling pensioners should be supported, but, for instance, a 75 year old property tycoon underserving and price gauging their young tenants should not.
Labour know it's wrong to restrict WFA and the excuses given - stability, economy and 'run on the pound' are pathetic when they dish out bumper pay rises to the strikers absent from their jobs.
I just wish that journalists of all colours would correct one misconception about the winter fuel allowance. I just read the BBC's Have Your Say, where most comments are obviously coming from non-pensioners. To a man they seem to believe that EVERY pensioner has been getting £300 per year WFA. Could somebody PLEASE point out two facts: One - the WFA is per household, so a couple under 80 years old get £100 each, a single pensioner under 80 gets £200. Two - over 80 years old, the WFA is £300. I presume it's divided the same way.
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Labour leadership loses conference vote on winter fuel payments ► www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/sep/25/labour-leadership-loses-conference-vote-on-winter-fuel-payments
GRANNY KILLER
At least some people in the Labour Party have a conscience 👏
most of us do. Labour is left wing. Starmer just isn’t.
Free Britney. Free her from what?
Why is it the tax payers fault that during the most economically prosperous time people weren’t saving for their future? Should have worked harder when they were younger
@@TheTomjmcc working hard doesnt make you money silly billy
'Starmer the granny harmer' should reverse this decision & perhaps consider taking MPs housing allowance away instead 🤔 oh wait, he won't do that, their second homes need heating over winter 😂
Well done Sharon 😊 I really respect you & Unite to come out fighting for decency against a insufferable act of cruelty against the pensioners , you give me hope with this current Champagne 🥂 Socialist Useless Uriah heep Starmer 😊 certainly not the Labour of yester year loved & respected by the nation . Politics has sadly gone to the dregs , but up you pop Unite & fresh air can still turn the tide . Respect & keep your voice heard for the vulnerable in society its the only way in a decent caring society 😊
The problem is that he isn't a socialist.
It’s true Kier Starmer isn’t a socialist
I agree! I hope they see sense!
When do we get our sausages!! 🗣🗣🗣
Now
@@T1CHE14 Sausages yesterday, sausages tomorrow, but never sausages today 😠
Sharon we love you.❤
A shame Labour MPs didn’t have the same integrity when it was voted on it Parliament… let’s hope Leadership listen now
The Winter Fuel payment will cease but wont be forgotten at the next General Election. Roll on the next five years!
Just watch the local elections
Unfortunately the conference vote was non-binding and judged by Starmer's non-compromising attitude thus far, it is likely the Winter Fuel payment cut will proceed
I think we can all openly agree that this will be the last time Labour is ever going to be voted in again.
Well Done Labour Conference Delegates 👍👍 -- who voted for the well-beings of Pensioners.Pensioners who have contributed all their lives for the Country!
TwoTierKeir 🤖Free Gear Keir 🥸 TwoBlockedEars 🙉 should be ashamed of choosing overseas aid over freezing OAPs!😡😡
They should release the sausages IMMEDIATELY 😡
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂ya own party is against you starmer
Thing is Starmer works for davos
I believe they are misguided for supporting labour but I have respect for the vote. This Labour party is not for the people, does not care about the working class and will bring this country to its knees.
I hope you aren't advocating for the other major party.
@@oldmare444They’re advocating for either an untenable small party (eg the Greens or the Workers Party), a hypothetical party with no as-yet proven basis in reality or actual electoral potential, or (and I shudder to contemplate this) Reform UK.
@@oldmare444what is wrong with conservatives?
@@lorenzobunn1194 Check out the last years they were in power. That should tell you everything you need to know.
@@oldmare444 my wage has only risen in the last few years 🤷♂️
We had Lettuce and now Sausages
But we voted vegetables in .😊
TwoTierKeir got some Free Gear from his pel the Peer
Does that mean Starmer has to go back on taking away the winter fuel payments or can he just ignore it?
He can ignore it
@@ronj9910? Then, what is the purpose of the vote?
@DEonaraR it's a charade
He will ignore it but not for long it was the wrong thing to do
Starmer has just confirmed no change in policy.
What are they doing about mash immigration since the sausages should now be okay?
Once the sausages are free then we can only hope that peas will prevail in the middle east.
Its a very gravy situation
She should be PM
Starmer has just confirmed NO change in policy.
The fact that Starmer's Labour is what the UK got after years of suffering through the Tories is so depressing; with a bullet proof majority for at least 5 years to boot.
You had a chance to vote for another party who would have helped the people over the rich but you blew it. I am from the US but even I could see the labor party wasn't what it used to be under Jeremy Corbyn.
It's bleak
@@oldmare444 I'm from Canada. We're all making the same kinds of mistakes. I'm just watching with a sense of internationalist solidarity too.
How a labour pm should speak.
Sharon Graham is the real hero of this Labour conference, defender of the most vulnerable and puts the Labour leadership to shame.
They cheered when it was carried at conference
MPs cheered in Parliament when it was passed
Why's My comment been Removed was it to neer the truth ??????
High taxation is austerity for the people suffering the increased tax burden.
And its begun 🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤
Sharon should become a great housing secretary under Corbyn! 😊
So he would see his parents go cold then
So who is in control of the country the government voted for or the labour conference?
small minded thinking
people who need the money will still get it
it's just not a blanket government donation to energy companies via pensioners anymore
frees up money in the budget for GB Energy, which will make electricity prices cheaper for everyone
Booooooooooed to this party!!!!!!
Go after the lazy politicians hiking their salary not the hard workers.
Chairman Starmer has to go
GET RID OF PARLIMENT ASWELL
"THAT WAS CARRIED" 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏and that's how the great majority of people feel in this country, a respect for our pensioners.
Should have had a vote on all the thousands of pounds accepted in FREEBIES!!!
Woman who's speaking, we need to KNOW, accordingly, why are we here
Wiza Mill
We haven’t got what we voted for for the last 15 years…there’s not a lot of point voting. Let’s not forget Starmer himself would not accept to a democratic vote not that long ago.
My dad was a tool maker, so was mine and he weren't a Jeremy Hunt.
I trust tomorrows editorial excoriates Starmer. Remember Manchester before Islington.
He may as well fill the black hole With the pensioners his own research has told him that they’re going to die.
TOO LATE... jellyfish 🪼🪼🪼 again.
She needs to get on the Jane Plan.
From CNN 'Public records showed that Starmer had accepted tens of thousands of pounds in gifts from a key financial donor, including money for clothes and glasses' - Wow!
Unions see the real picture.
Well, MPs need their free food and drink, taxpayers do not come into it .
Do you see the difference though? They didn't just bulldoze ahead and do it anyway like 14 years of f you from the tories
Here here
Cutting the winter fuel wasn’t even in the manifesto. Labour are no different to the Tories. The word manifesto means nothing to these people anymore.
Interesting to watch the voting! All the young lackeys in the front rows voted against the motion. Probably the “ brilliant” young minds advising Starmer and Reeves on policy rather than the experienced party politicians that are very quiet on the WFA!
They probably think that every pensioner is getting the WFA. I just wish that journalists of all colours would correct one misconception : Could somebody PLEASE point out two facts: One - the WFA is per household, so a couple under 80 years old get £100 each, a single pensioner under 80 gets £200. Two - over 80 years old, the WFA is £300. I presume it's divided the same way.
@@sandradavies7804 27% of pensioners are millionaires, they absolutely should not be getting WFA, also, WFA isn't going away, it's just going to those who actually need it.
@@overthemoon34 It depends on the definition of millionaire. True, house prices have risen so much (especially in the south) that on paper some pensioners may well be "millionaires". But you can't pay bills with bricks and mortar and saying "then move and downsize" isn't always straightforward. And you won't find many of these "property millionaires" in the north of England.
@@sandradavies7804 They're still millionaires, they're CHOOSING not to sell property worth £1m and downsize to support their lifestyle, like most people do.
Quite frankly, millionaires should not be given handouts. Struggling pensioners should be supported, but, for instance, a 75 year old property tycoon underserving and price gauging their young tenants should not.
British Gas want their money ! And their shareholders in that room lol
Free the sausage 🎉
She looks like jubba the hut in starwars
Is Starmers kid fair game now as he bought him in to it.....Of course not....Starmer is a effing monster who needs kicking out.
Vote green
GRANNY KILLER
Hail starmer!...
Labour know it's wrong to restrict WFA and the excuses given - stability, economy and 'run on the pound' are pathetic when they dish out bumper pay rises to the strikers absent from their jobs.
The money is needed to keep illegal immigrants warm !
It's the right thing to do cancel winter fuel payments
I just wish that journalists of all colours would correct one misconception about the winter fuel allowance. I just read the BBC's Have Your Say, where most comments are obviously coming from non-pensioners. To a man they seem to believe that EVERY pensioner has been getting £300 per year WFA. Could somebody PLEASE point out two facts: One - the WFA is per household, so a couple under 80 years old get £100 each, a single pensioner under 80 gets £200. Two - over 80 years old, the WFA is £300. I presume it's divided the same way.
What about sausages we want return sausages 😂🎉
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣