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NITTO Trail Grappler vs Milestar Patagonia MT 02
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- Опубликовано: 18 окт 2022
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I’ve been running Nitto Trail Grapplers on my 2020 Jeep Gladiator for a couple of years now. While they’ve been great tires, I wanted to make a change. So, I swapped the Nittos out for a set of Milestar Patagonia M/T-02 tires. In today’s video, I’ll share a few details about the tires, how they compare to the old Nittos, and more. So, tune in, get my first impressions of the new tires, and see if the Milestar Patagonias will fit your overlanding and off-roading needs!
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I'm very impressed with the Pat MTs. My set of 35x17 have been on our Jeep for a bit over 40k miles. The Jeep gets true all around use- snowy New England winters, daily driver duties, pulls a small camper trailer sometimes long distances, and gets off roaded heavily at times. The Pats have been pretty quiet, ride well, and wore very evenly over the life. At a bit over 40k miles they have plenty of life left to do several thousand more miles of street use but are getting low enough mud and snow traction is dropping. I ran these tires at around 33-35psi on the street and 12-14 off road. Tires got rotated every 5-8k miles.
My impressions of driving- one tire was a bit out of round since new. Other than that they ride and handle very well, to the point that my wife enjoyed daily driving the Jeep. They work fine in the rain, very well in snow, OK in mud, and fantastic on rocks. I was shocked how well they worked when more than half worn getting through several days of rainy trails at Windrock Park last fall. That is some really greasy mud but they worked quite well.
It was time to shop for another set of tires and I looked seriously at the Yokohama Geolandar X MT and briefly at the Nitto Trail Grapplers. The Nittos are great tires but out of my price range. I can nearly buy two sets of Pats for the cost of a set of Nittos. The Yakohamas were on my short list because they looked like they have a more aggressive tread and they have a very good reputation, however I kept hesitating because the Pats have worked so well and they wore great. since this Jeep gets used daily treadlife is a concern, and I'm worried the Yokohamas will wear unevenly and too quickly for our use, increasing the cost per mile. I found a set of used Patagonias for cheap money so they are now on the Jeep and I'm happy I went with them. I'm still curious about the Yokohamas, but I hesitate to give up a tire I know works well all through it's life for something I've never used before. The cost per mile, as well as the cost/performance ratio of the Pagonias are hard to beat. Are there better tires? Sure, but you'll have to pay a lot more for them.
Any updates as to how the MT02 is wearing?
I worked at Toyo Tire in White GA for 6.5 years. Ever seen a half of a million tires in one place? Pretty awesome. I also bought 35" tire for my Jeep wrangler. With the discount about $800 for 5 tires.
That literally sounds like a mountain of tires!
I think I’m going to buy the Milestars tomorrow. Oh boy!!
Mielstars xt are primo for snow. Their soft compound runs out a little sooner but it stays soft in colder winter weather where snow and ice are a factor. I'm a believer. At least with the XTs
1000% agree with you!
SICK looking rig dude
Thank you Jay!
My Patagonias have lasted way longer than my KO2s.
Hey Doug, how are you doing friend?! Way cool, had no idea you were running these tires! Great testimonial!
Thanks a ton for the video! I've been looking at new mud tires, and you picked two off of my short list. Very informative! If you are interested, "siping" for tires (one "P") rhymes with "typing" and is not to be confused with "sipping" (two Ps), as in drinking a little at a time. Possibly named after an inventor named John Sipes who introduced "sipes" into rubber tires. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siping_(rubber)
Thanks to fine folks like you I'll be speaking proper English in no time! ha ha ha. Thanks brother... yeah I wasn't thinking when I shot this video! That said, these tires were awesome and I would highly recommend (either for that matter!). Stay well.
Thinking of these for my Land Rover LR3 build.
been 9 months whats update?
I run Pat 37 MT02 and could be more happier with them!
So awesome, what else have you done to your rig?
The question is how often do you need to rotate those tires? The tread design on the Patagonias looks like more thought went into it. Curious also why they only went with partial sips?
As I understand I understand roughly every 3-4,000 miles. But yes, very interesting tread design!
i have rotated my older MT's (not the -02's) about every 5K and they are at 37K mi. with about 6/32's left. They are riding a little rough and louder, but more miles than I though they would last. I may replace with the MT-02's as they are an upgraded version. The price is hard to beat for what you ger
Any update on reviewing these since then?
Reviews of version 1 seem to show poor wear patterns - you hit nail on the head about their running on the center of tread claim.
Be keen to hear the up to date review on these…..?
Hey I just saw this video.. great review! Second part out already??!!
When can we expect the update video?
What would you like to know buddy?
@@4wdTALK how are they working out? Wear ?
Sipping? It's siping (SY-ping). A single one is called a sipe.
@@JeffHouseholder awesome, you passed the test! Lol
are the patagonias predominately for jeeps? I don't see these often on Toyotas?
Not really, after I picked these up, I found a couple friends that are running these on their Toyotas. But it definitely seems the Jeep community have taken a larger bite from this apple though!
Can you do a review of the patagonias on a toyota 4runner?
You should X rotate these Hybrids every 2500-5k miles max to keep em quiet/wear longer.
Im planning on Patty 35/12.5s for my 4R to replace the 33 trail grapplers and patagonia only weigh 11.5lbs more each than 33s. Still gonna re-gear for rotational difference and I even have a maggie supercharger.
Ive had the original soft Patagonia MTs on my K30 military truck in 38's and they wear pretty fast but are silent
@@4wdTALK from iowa sicky muddy snowy how do think these will do
@@stevenhawn2061 Mat from Mat's off road recovery said in one of his videos that they are really good on snow and ice. Even deep snow. So you're good with those.
i need to know how much the patagonia 35inch weigh....their website doesnt say...wahhhh
Ive seen 61lbs on diff sites
I was wondering 37x12.50r20 weight also! Never can find a "true" weight!
who buys 100% Off Road vehicle for Quietness?
True! But, of course I need to share this attribute with you all though! ha ha ha... thanks for stopping by today!
@@4wdTALK it would be nice if there was a way to drive using All Terrain tires on the highway and switch to Mud Terrain for the trail.
but that is impossible for storage on one vehicle.
Milestar Patagonia uses a softer rubber compound, plus the tread surface has an arch in the center, those two things contribute to the quietness in the beginning but they will produce more sound as they wear.
I do because I do not go off-road so the more pleasing pavement experience is what I am seeking. Not getting MT, getting XT but if the off-road tire is quite probably safe to assume the XT is also.