This doesnt seems gameplay anymore. If you compare their lineup in BB dacha vs dreamleague, the BB dacha seems to be better just because of midone. Sure, he aint the best midlaner at the tournament but he is a very mid game oriented that it gives so much space to Chad. He made Chad looks like a top carry. Lorenof is failing miserably which forces Nightfall to carry the game from mid game to late game. Their loses in dreamleague were already over in midgame but 33 and nightfall is carrying them but lorenof is reallly underperforming.
@@HoriXzon yeah. Midone likes to fight which benefits his carry especially if that carry likes to farm like chad. The BB dacha Tundra did lose to falcons but their loses doesnt feel like too one sided. This tundra lineup is struggling against falcons even if they are too far ahead in networth.
he couldve also zipped in when snowball landed and hit micke at the front while he was in bb form. idk why he casually walking into a teamfight that's already happening when he was full mana
Its stagnant, but also they went from having topson wacky shit to being more stagnant than average, so it looks like a massive difference because it is
33 listen to ammar - he explained how to play Bristle - he even Said he is the most OP hero. U farm to get items and then u engage in every fight cause that hero cant die
@@CahayaHikmahKehidupan nah. in betboom dacha 33 was too OP nobody can even stop him on lane. bro improved so much after liquid. but i guess they just study his game. the only hero is working for him now is bb or pango. the rest are shut down. especially his visage. lorenof just an okay player.
@@diether7 i agree with you on betboom dacha 33 was great.. but in dreamleague especially stage 2, 33 so underperformed. he needs to improve his hero pool, even his bb is shutted down i think.. compared to ammar bb
Lorenof is so inconsistent we all know that he have a good game sometimes but most of the time he is so suck ,its like 33, saksa and whitemon are doing the carrying his butt out
teams have already got used to his zoo heroes now.he should try expanding his pool or else his build up team will quickly fall apart and lorenof isnt really clicking into the team
even pro player cant play bs properly, they always buy same item, like agha and maelstorm first, and not depend on the conditional item. in old days, bs used to build sange yasha, and blademail since this hero is so squishy , thus need strength and armor to figth beastly, then buy bkb and bash to stop the TP
Yeah I bet they don't ever watch other team play that the biggest mistake u Made. If u not learn how Ur enemy play, ur enemy Will learn ur mistake. I don't really call them pros coz lots silly mistakes.
this will likely be 33 downfall because he doesnt have big hero pool . i just hope tundra find success with their roster but their mid is dragging the entire roster down
@@BhaveshBoojhawonlol do you know that he was one of few offlane player who pick weird hero like Chen or Winter Wyvern as offlane in pro scene? It is not the issue with his hero pool, but their team strat, since hero pick relies on what strategy they want to use
@@BhaveshBoojhawon also calling 33 has small hero pool is like calling Abed have two hero pool (Puck and Storm Spirit) when he play in EG because Bulba keep picking the hero for him, when he is clearly capable to play a lot of another heroes
Tundra are playing almost all the same heroes two tournaments in the past few months , what do they expect i don't know ...they are loosing because the opposite teams know their roaster and they ban the important heroes. this is not really good team to go and play on TIs, they need to change something , the supports are good but offlaners and carrys are shit , only brood bristle and visage cannot win games.
Truly 33 played really bad against team spirit, falcons and now team liquid. His hero pool is the same and soo predictable. He needs to stop playing the same hero pool or he has to change his play style. 3 series in a row 0 effect. Even nightfall afyer letting him farm so much no effecf at all.
@ChessCat-ud8ue lmao, not about that bro, relax.. i am just a tundra fans dissapointed with their performance.. they all play bad anyway, but the most under performed is lorenof and 33. and their draft so bad .
33 playing like he's a 16.5
Sorry whats that mean
@@Zeosth50%
@@yosvanyantoniotorreshernan2478 he is against his pals haha
@@Zeosth dont know math?
@@Giosef123 nah, he's indeed underperforming. its so rare to see him making a lot of mistakes in 1 series
i can see tundra falling apart very soon if they dont refine their gameplay and hero pools
still, saksa had a great second game on lion, nice use of blink and shard immunity and such. not enough, not enough
This doesnt seems gameplay anymore. If you compare their lineup in BB dacha vs dreamleague, the BB dacha seems to be better just because of midone. Sure, he aint the best midlaner at the tournament but he is a very mid game oriented that it gives so much space to Chad. He made Chad looks like a top carry. Lorenof is failing miserably which forces Nightfall to carry the game from mid game to late game. Their loses in dreamleague were already over in midgame but 33 and nightfall is carrying them but lorenof is reallly underperforming.
@@poi7603 kinda true, midone and dyracho have same kinda of playstyle scapegoat but giving a lot of space to others
@@HoriXzon yeah. Midone likes to fight which benefits his carry especially if that carry likes to farm like chad. The BB dacha Tundra did lose to falcons but their loses doesnt feel like too one sided. This tundra lineup is struggling against falcons even if they are too far ahead in networth.
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33 played as an archon for 3 series.. check it again if you want to understand what i mean
Yeah you must be very familiar with that play, since you're also archon.
@@supercritic100 updated! 4 series now.. lol
Mick3 truly carried Game 1
how many time lorenov died for rune in this turnament ?
12:28 LOL 😂😂
Liquid knows how to counter 33's animal playstyle
Lorenof entering fight in game 2 was a big throw. How can you pick a fight outside base when losing when they almost pick off lion ...
This is liquid form we know...
Tundra when they're not up against betboom
Lorenof missing that spirit at 4:00 and letting micke live was extremely embarassing, all he had to do was not turn around like a dummy.
he couldve also zipped in when snowball landed and hit micke at the front while he was in bb form. idk why he casually walking into a teamfight that's already happening when he was full mana
Yeah both team offlaners suck cant playwell. Just like the old games alwsy support wins over them. Lol 😅😅😅
He is walking like a drunk 2k storm to press w 😂
@@arcanepersona1676 yeah even chinese play better with hex. that most satisfying
Well maybe 33 needs to take a break. I still believe they will be one of the best team in the next year
Seems like it wasn't just me that feel like tundra's hero been stagnant and predictable as of late..
Its stagnant, but also they went from having topson wacky shit to being more stagnant than average, so it looks like a massive difference because it is
@@sHooIT Even with normal hero he was building whacky shit. Viper going Pike, Agh Scepter, Linken and Shard compared to normal universal build.
I like how everyone is trashing Tundra and 33. Liquid and Micke simply played better during these matchups.
33 no impact at all his hero pool so thin
33 = 3rd support
madness DK era is here
33 listen to ammar - he explained how to play Bristle - he even Said he is the most OP hero.
U farm to get items and then u engage in every fight cause that hero cant die
you seem to have missed the TI grant final that 33 won playing bristle.
@@MrTheSmoon then TI that Ammar didnt reach finals?
Why would a 2x ti winner 33 would listen to ammar? 33 will listen if ammar won 3x than him.
@@spritesprite2720 that means 33 got carried
@@MrTheSmoonthat ti where nisha and boxi carried overrated 33?😂
lorenof so greedy for not buying bkb
33 & nightfall should be out - joke.. saksa pro play
nightfall is good, the problem is lorenof and 33
@@CahayaHikmahKehidupan nah. in betboom dacha 33 was too OP nobody can even stop him on lane. bro improved so much after liquid. but i guess they just study his game. the only hero is working for him now is bb or pango. the rest are shut down. especially his visage.
lorenof just an okay player.
@@diether7 i agree with you on betboom dacha 33 was great.. but in dreamleague especially stage 2, 33 so underperformed. he needs to improve his hero pool, even his bb is shutted down i think.. compared to ammar bb
@@CahayaHikmahKehidupanhis bb is getting shut down because unlike ammar who has tanky midlaner and carry. Tundra heroes are dying way too fast.
Why not mentioning the obvious? They need a better pos 5. Whitemon is absolutely no impact in this series.
Lorenof is so inconsistent we all know that he have a good game sometimes but most of the time he is so suck ,its like 33, saksa and whitemon are doing the carrying his butt out
33? hell no, 33 is on badplay.
whitemon, saksa and nightfall cary the game
33😢
teams have already got used to his zoo heroes now.he should try expanding his pool or else his build up team will quickly fall apart and lorenof isnt really clicking into the team
He has no impact in teamfight man
even pro player cant play bs properly, they always buy same item, like agha and maelstorm first, and not depend on the conditional item. in old days, bs used to build sange yasha, and blademail since this hero is so squishy , thus need strength and armor to figth beastly, then buy bkb and bash to stop the TP
Yeah I bet they don't ever watch other team play that the biggest mistake u Made. If u not learn how Ur enemy play, ur enemy Will learn ur mistake. I don't really call them pros coz lots silly mistakes.
33 picking same heroes all over again bruh
this will likely be 33 downfall because he doesnt have big hero pool . i just hope tundra find success with their roster but their mid is dragging the entire roster down
@@BhaveshBoojhawonhe have Huge hero pool, he can play micro heroes even chen mid in OG era, it’s just their mid need a bit adjustment 🫢🗿
@@BhaveshBoojhawonlol do you know that he was one of few offlane player who pick weird hero like Chen or Winter Wyvern as offlane in pro scene? It is not the issue with his hero pool, but their team strat, since hero pick relies on what strategy they want to use
@@BhaveshBoojhawon also calling 33 has small hero pool is like calling Abed have two hero pool (Puck and Storm Spirit) when he play in EG because Bulba keep picking the hero for him, when he is clearly capable to play a lot of another heroes
33 dk riders are quiet, is this the 33 effect?
Midone was way better than this lorenof. He seems doesn't fit for tier 1 teams yet.
Liquid looks strong
tundra mikoto welcome
Any haters of 33 better than saberlighto?
Another match that i will say that lorenof is the problem, as i said in another video. 😁
It's so true when they loose u just watch where is this lorenof play. He just like kids coming out from puberty😅😅😅😅
The new dota god. . Team liquid
why no puck nisha
Liquid punish 33 for not continue the contract
Tundra are playing almost all the same heroes two tournaments in the past few months , what do they expect i don't know ...they are loosing because the opposite teams know their roaster and they ban the important heroes. this is not really good team to go and play on TIs, they need to change something , the supports are good but offlaners and carrys are shit , only brood bristle and visage cannot win games.
Even his doom is ass man idk what happen to 33 he so bad rn they will face Xtreme Waska Pari next only confidence againts Waska
Wow ❤
I will pick Abed than lorenof... A lot of misplay from him..GG
Lorenof and nightfall kind a burden in team
12:30 byee
Truly 33 played really bad against team spirit, falcons and now team liquid. His hero pool is the same and soo predictable. He needs to stop playing the same hero pool or he has to change his play style. 3 series in a row 0 effect. Even nightfall afyer letting him farm so much no effecf at all.
tundra,q big team that cant pick their Carry right ,
Gg tundra, gl next event
Yup I can see them bomb put in this event. Clearly they have issues within the lineup.
the classic 33 performance after TI xd
also lorenof was useless botth games too
I wonder if 33 pictured this type of performance from his so called built team from the ground up
He just wanted to play with his buddy saksa again man @@BhaveshBoojhawon
33 regretting leaving TL now lol
nah, he prefers to play with friends
@knkaitlog you mean losing with friends
@@Sgij yeah, he already said to blitz(liquid coach) that he wanna play with his boys
@@knkaitlog not a real pro I guess
Ez arcanas
No Topson no party
33..
My team is noobs
I am almost play perfect..
Both 33 n lorenog nned out from the team n make newb team😂😂😂😂
honeslty mid not consistent enough for scalling
DuBu Weng the Chinese
this THUNDRA to focus on FALCON... this is why they stupid when fight LIQUID...
33 really horrible af
lmao Lorenoob plays like herald storm. Absolute useless
Change pos5 tundra
the problem is on pos 2, pos 3
@@CahayaHikmahKehidupanno bro. Pos 5 is the problem, see how 33 died 3 times of solo echo slam? Thats all on your pos 5.
@@zulhaimizoule1937 how the fck 33 died from solo echo slam shoud be pos 5 blamed?
@ChessCat-ud8ue you are crazy lil bro
@ChessCat-ud8ue lmao, not about that bro, relax.. i am just a tundra fans dissapointed with their performance.. they all play bad anyway, but the most under performed is lorenof and 33. and their draft so bad
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33 useless in game 2
33 too stubborn to play other heroes. Since their series against spirit they became worse. I don't see them making it to the playoffs
Even midone is better .....than....this mid....
lmao
Pls get better midlane this Lorenof guy is so bad
First🎉🎉
Too much dota and the draft always same, so boring, gonna skip couple days into playoffs😂
Overrated 33
lorenof is a freaking downgrade...i think midone did better
33 when in liquid = best player, the mastermind.
33 when in tundra = clown 🤡
He is useless when u ban visage and beastmaster.
You mean the team he won TI in 😂
33's head gotten bigger after that 2nd ti win he thinks he really is the king and now see what happens
Dota so boring recently
Just pick meta hero, not the hero that suitable with playstyle
If you boring.. uninstall Dota go play mobile legends..Don't play Dota ok...
thundra just need to get mid and offlane lol all their pos 3 4 5 alr goated player