That is literally a normal Thursday at wrestling. Wrestled for 10 or so years as a kid and even once I started training with the men if you were competing soon or planning to you would go through this. Not 35 people in a row sure but after the 5 or 6th guy it’s just cardio because you don’t have the strength and It’s always a light drill trying to get in or out of a position. It’s really not that dangerous at all it’s like a beep test once you’ve been wrestling a while like nrl players all should have at this level
Im 100% with missle here. And personally i think this is a gererational issue. These young players seem to be so intitled that they dictate to thier club what happens with regard to contracts etc. NO! The club dictates and you as a player conform, FOR THE CLUB! If this bloke wins in court this will change sport across the country. RIP coaching across this great sporting nation if this lawsuit passes. FO Jackson
If Topine wins this nearly every person who has served in the military has a class action case. No one else was late that day, only Jackson. It was a learning experience and he failed to learn the lesson.
@@jackohere1878 Nope. The training, especially the training between the ears, are after the exact same outcome, resilience in the face of adversity. Also, both the military's training facilities and an NRL clubs training facility are a workplace, therefore the same workplace rules apply.
@@paythepiper6283 Military is obviously separate/different what other workplace trains their staff to kill or be killed? The rules for life and death combat will always be different. Until you have been under sustained fire and the bullets are whistling around your ears while incoming artillery explodes nearby you really have no idea. To think training for footie games where your all mates after a mere 80 minutes is the same is illogical to say the least.
@@jackohere1878 I have, and I played footy. The concept of what I wrote previously obviously eludes you or is to much for you to grasp. Get an adult to explain it to you.
@@paythepiper6283 I think what I said was too much for you to grasp at all bro but hey believe what you like as once you start the childish type insults it shows you have nothing of substance to offer. Anyone thinking playing footie is any way like going into a real battle in war is seriously deluded.
If it is going to court as 35 people he had to wrestle they would be confident that claim is correct. Good coaches like Bennett know how to read different personalities, no doubt he would of done things differently. It will be interesting to watch this case if it doesn’t get settled out of court.
There’s so many different versions of this story will have to wait and see what is played out in court 🤷🏽♂️ he must have pissed someone off to go through a entire squad for wrestling 💯
Definitely more to the story than topine just being punished for being late. Lawyers and the RLPA wouldn't be getting involved if he didn't have a case. Can guarantee this doesn't go to court, Dogs will settle as they will lose..i agree, it seems a bit soft on the surface but times have changed..when i started in the workforce, you'd be yelled at and sworn at and told you were hopeless and it was normal, now, thats workplace harrassment and just not acceptable anymore. All my years Playing sport, rugby and boxing, i can never remember anyone being punished to that extreme for being a few mins late.
Lawyers are scum bags who would line up for such a high profile case. In no way does that elude to evidence or a solid case. The dude could not take the fact he is not good enough for first grade football so now he is trying to ruin the club all the while ruining any chance at an NRL career. No club will touch him now. He will get nothing out of this.
One thing that always gets me is this argument that the players are paid some astronomical amount that they are privileged to receive. Topine was on what a middle manager makes in any company. Let's not act like he was making LeBron money.
@@raysieelmo Do we punish middle managers with over the top penalties because they arrive 10 minutes late? If a manager showed up 10 minutes late to the factory floor would that mean they should go and unload a 40 ft container by themselves while others watch on to teach the manager a lesson?
@jdkapperino8541 The only correlation between Topine and a "middle manager" is the possible pay similarity. That's where it ends. One's a pencil pusher, whereas the other is an athlete supposedly in peak condition.
@@raysieelmo The point is that people use the excuse that they're on some kind of astronomical money so they should put up with anything and everything. In reality most of them are paid a modest professional atheletes salary
I don't know why the clubs think they can push players to the breaking point. I think some people can't come back from that. I think there is a line clubs shouldn't cross and maybe they did. Maybe this wasn't the only time the club pushed him this hard.
Topine never would have made the step up to 1st grade. Career reserve grader who saw an opportunity to exploit the club. Hes just a sook struggling to accept hes not good enough.
Soft culture . Try being a tradie. When we were late to boxing we used to ge trade to run more kms, do more sparring and cop punches to stomach. It builds chemistry character and toughens you up. A struggling club last year can’t afford to allow people being late. Smh
dont let the facts get in the way of a good segment....far out, the claim has stated he wasnt late, he didnt require strapping, so he was on the field at the same time as the others, however he was late to strapping. you're also applying your own experiences to this allegation and saying his experience can't be true cos it doesn't align to yours. also, it's 100% a workplace. I can't believe you get paid to give such bad takes.
I'm guessing the 34 other players that he supposedly wrestled made it on time whether they needed or didn't need strapping? It's a thin argument here if we're running with this story.
The entitled league generation ...boo hoo! They made me wrestle the whole team, that's when you show how much of a beast you are. They are challenging you, and you cry to teacher -
"It was only an extra 20 blokes"....highlights how dumb a take this is. From the complaint, “Don’t let him up if he’s down, jump on him straight away...No, don’t congratulate or help him. He deserved that. He was f#cking late.”...if true, there's a big difference between swimming and wrestling 35 blokes, you can choose to stop swimming but those blokes were told not to let up on him even when he couldn't defend himself any more.
The club at the time had so big an injury crisis that they were seeking exemptions just to let 3rd graders play on the weekend. Where the fuck they get 35 guys from to drive down to Smeaton Grange mid-week for wrestling?
@@raysieelmo Firstly I say "If true", secondly it's a top 30 squad plus 6 development players plus the second tier players, so entirely possible, thirdly exemptions of the type you describe are usually positional...ie. a club has had all their hookers injured so they'll seek an exemption for a player with those skills to come into the team. It's not because they're short of players, it's because they're short of players in a certain position.
@@TheSeanoit’s exactly the same thing. That’s why they train wrestling to help with tackling. Obviously your all male netball team doesn’t need to train hard. But this is top level professional sport, training with the right attitude in a team environment is a must. Turning up late while the rest of the team have to train is not acceptable.
The pronoun could always say it is a woman and downgrade itself to play nrlw.... what a look honestly.... for 400+ k a year athlete, surely it can follow a schedule like the other 35 players....... -> 🚪 no pay 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
"THE BULLDOGS CLUB HAVE A DUTY OF CARE FOR ALL PLAYERS IN THE CLUB AND LEGAL TO DO SO. IF THE CLUB DOES NOT UNDERSTAND DUTY OF CARE, THE LAWSUIT AGAINST THEM IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD HAPPEN BECAUSE HE WAS TREATED UNFAIRLY BY HIS PEERS AT THE BEHEST OF THE COACH BECAUSE HE SAW FIT TO PUNISH HIM BECAUSE HE WAS LATE TO TRAINING AND SHOULD HAVE JUST PAID A FINE INSTEAD OF BEING A BULLY TO HIM AND LET HIS TEAM MATES DO THE DIRTY WORK FOR THE COACH AND THE PLAYERS GET THE BLAME FOR THE COACHES STUPID ACTIONS INSTEAD OF DEALING WITH IT IN A MORE CIVIL WAY. FUCK THE COACHES IRRESPONSIBLE WAY OF DEALING WITH THE MATTER AT HAND AND HOW HE GOT THE OTHER PLAYERS TO DO HIS DIRTY WORK FOR HIM. IS THIS STANDARD THAT OTHER CLUBS DEAL WITH COMING TO TRAINING LATE AND IF IT IS, THEN LAWSUITS GALORE FOR THE PLAYERS WHO ARE DEALT WITH BY THEIR COACH AND ASSISTANTS TO THE COACH. SO FUCK THE PLAYERS WHO THINK THAT BULLYING IS OK BY A COACH WHO AGREES WITH THIS TYPE OF BULLY BEHAVIOR TOWARDS HIS TEAM PLAYERS"
That is literally a normal Thursday at wrestling. Wrestled for 10 or so years as a kid and even once I started training with the men if you were competing soon or planning to you would go through this. Not 35 people in a row sure but after the 5 or 6th guy it’s just cardio because you don’t have the strength and It’s always a light drill trying to get in or out of a position. It’s really not that dangerous at all it’s like a beep test once you’ve been wrestling a while like nrl players all should have at this level
It was 30 seconds each player . He was a fringe first grader at best.
Im 100% with missle here. And personally i think this is a gererational issue. These young players seem to be so intitled that they dictate to thier club what happens with regard to contracts etc. NO! The club dictates and you as a player conform, FOR THE CLUB! If this bloke wins in court this will change sport across the country. RIP coaching across this great sporting nation if this lawsuit passes. FO Jackson
Yet I saw him working on a building site last week and he's not supposed to be working as he is still under negations with the dogs.
If Topine wins this nearly every person who has served in the military has a class action case. No one else was late that day, only Jackson. It was a learning experience and he failed to learn the lesson.
The military services are totally different to playing sport.
@@jackohere1878 Nope. The training, especially the training between the ears, are after the exact same outcome, resilience in the face of adversity. Also, both the military's training facilities and an NRL clubs training facility are a workplace, therefore the same workplace rules apply.
@@paythepiper6283 Military is obviously separate/different what other workplace trains their staff to kill or be killed?
The rules for life and death combat will always be different.
Until you have been under sustained fire and the bullets are whistling around your ears while incoming artillery explodes nearby you really have no idea.
To think training for footie games where your all mates after a mere 80 minutes is the same is illogical to say the least.
@@jackohere1878 I have, and I played footy. The concept of what I wrote previously obviously eludes you or is to much for you to grasp. Get an adult to explain it to you.
@@paythepiper6283 I think what I said was too much for you to grasp at all bro but hey believe what you like as once you start the childish type insults it shows you have nothing of substance to offer.
Anyone thinking playing footie is any way like going into a real battle in war is seriously deluded.
If it is going to court as 35 people he had to wrestle they would be confident that claim is correct. Good coaches like Bennett know how to read different personalities, no doubt he would of done things differently. It will be interesting to watch this case if it doesn’t get settled out of court.
That would be Whittaker's warm up
There’s so many different versions of this story will have to wait and see what is played out in court 🤷🏽♂️ he must have pissed someone off to go through a entire squad for wrestling 💯
Definitely more to the story than topine just being punished for being late. Lawyers and the RLPA wouldn't be getting involved if he didn't have a case. Can guarantee this doesn't go to court, Dogs will settle as they will lose..i agree, it seems a bit soft on the surface but times have changed..when i started in the workforce, you'd be yelled at and sworn at and told you were hopeless and it was normal, now, thats workplace harrassment and just not acceptable anymore. All my years Playing sport, rugby and boxing, i can never remember anyone being punished to that extreme for being a few mins late.
Lawyers are scum bags who would line up for such a high profile case.
In no way does that elude to evidence or a solid case.
The dude could not take the fact he is not good enough for first grade football so now he is trying to ruin the club all the while ruining any chance at an NRL career. No club will touch him now.
He will get nothing out of this.
If he was humiliated by that then dont turn up late for training its pretty simple.
One thing that always gets me is this argument that the players are paid some astronomical amount that they are privileged to receive. Topine was on what a middle manager makes in any company. Let's not act like he was making LeBron money.
Not bad for a fringe first grader at best and in his early 20s. He'd easily be in the top 5% of earners for his age in the real world.
@@raysieelmo Do we punish middle managers with over the top penalties because they arrive 10 minutes late?
If a manager showed up 10 minutes late to the factory floor would that mean they should go and unload a 40 ft container by themselves while others watch on to teach the manager a lesson?
@jdkapperino8541 The only correlation between Topine and a "middle manager" is the possible pay similarity. That's where it ends.
One's a pencil pusher, whereas the other is an athlete supposedly in peak condition.
@@raysieelmo The point is that people use the excuse that they're on some kind of astronomical money so they should put up with anything and everything. In reality most of them are paid a modest professional atheletes salary
I don't know why the clubs think they can push players to the breaking point. I think some people can't come back from that. I think there is a line clubs shouldn't cross and maybe they did. Maybe this wasn't the only time the club pushed him this hard.
Topine never would have made the step up to 1st grade. Career reserve grader who saw an opportunity to exploit the club. Hes just a sook struggling to accept hes not good enough.
I can't believe anyone would seriously support Topine. Guarantee he wouldn't be sooking if he was good enough for first grade.
Bulldogs did nothing wrong
Was he 1 of the 1s that was upset he had to work till 5pm once or twice aweek
It wasn't 35, it was 12 people 30seconds each on your knees, he just couldn't cope with ciraldos new training regime
Soft culture . Try being a tradie. When we were late to boxing we used to ge trade to run more kms, do more sparring and cop punches to stomach. It builds chemistry character and toughens you up. A struggling club last year can’t afford to allow people being late. Smh
Old mate is a swimmer lets put him on a swimming show ae
dont let the facts get in the way of a good segment....far out, the claim has stated he wasnt late, he didnt require strapping, so he was on the field at the same time as the others, however he was late to strapping. you're also applying your own experiences to this allegation and saying his experience can't be true cos it doesn't align to yours. also, it's 100% a workplace. I can't believe you get paid to give such bad takes.
I'm guessing the 34 other players that he supposedly wrestled made it on time whether they needed or didn't need strapping? It's a thin argument here if we're running with this story.
The entitled league generation ...boo hoo! They made me wrestle the whole team, that's when you show how much of a beast you are. They are challenging you, and you cry to teacher -
"It was only an extra 20 blokes"....highlights how dumb a take this is. From the complaint, “Don’t let him up if he’s down, jump on him straight away...No, don’t congratulate or help him. He deserved that. He was f#cking late.”...if true, there's a big difference between swimming and wrestling 35 blokes, you can choose to stop swimming but those blokes were told not to let up on him even when he couldn't defend himself any more.
Mate, stfu, in an nrl game he might have to make 35 tackles. Is he gonna sue the opposition for making him tackle them 35 times? 🙄
@@halotwotimes1859 It's not the same thing dopey.
The club at the time had so big an injury crisis that they were seeking exemptions just to let 3rd graders play on the weekend. Where the fuck they get 35 guys from to drive down to Smeaton Grange mid-week for wrestling?
@@raysieelmo Firstly I say "If true", secondly it's a top 30 squad plus 6 development players plus the second tier players, so entirely possible, thirdly exemptions of the type you describe are usually positional...ie. a club has had all their hookers injured so they'll seek an exemption for a player with those skills to come into the team. It's not because they're short of players, it's because they're short of players in a certain position.
@@TheSeanoit’s exactly the same thing. That’s why they train wrestling to help with tackling.
Obviously your all male netball team doesn’t need to train hard.
But this is top level professional sport, training with the right attitude in a team environment is a must.
Turning up late while the rest of the team have to train is not acceptable.
Torpine is no Spartan. Wants to be paid for not doing his job?
Hot takes are always the worst takes.
Swimming training compare to first grade footballer haaa 😂
Weak. Whole thing is weak. Can’t believe there’s people defending this bs.
The pronoun could always say it is a woman and downgrade itself to play nrlw.... what a look honestly.... for 400+ k a year athlete, surely it can follow a schedule like the other 35 players....... -> 🚪 no pay 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Pathetic. The most ridiculous thing I heard of. Just tear up his contract
"THE BULLDOGS CLUB HAVE A DUTY OF CARE FOR ALL PLAYERS IN THE CLUB AND LEGAL TO DO SO. IF THE CLUB DOES NOT UNDERSTAND DUTY OF CARE, THE LAWSUIT AGAINST THEM IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD HAPPEN BECAUSE HE WAS TREATED UNFAIRLY BY HIS PEERS AT THE BEHEST OF THE COACH BECAUSE HE SAW FIT TO PUNISH HIM BECAUSE HE WAS LATE TO TRAINING AND SHOULD HAVE JUST PAID A FINE INSTEAD OF BEING A BULLY TO HIM AND LET HIS TEAM MATES DO THE DIRTY WORK FOR THE COACH AND THE PLAYERS GET THE BLAME FOR THE COACHES STUPID ACTIONS INSTEAD OF DEALING WITH IT IN A MORE CIVIL WAY. FUCK THE COACHES IRRESPONSIBLE WAY OF DEALING WITH THE MATTER AT HAND AND HOW HE GOT THE OTHER PLAYERS TO DO HIS DIRTY WORK FOR HIM. IS THIS STANDARD THAT OTHER CLUBS DEAL WITH COMING TO TRAINING LATE AND IF IT IS, THEN LAWSUITS GALORE FOR THE PLAYERS WHO ARE DEALT WITH BY THEIR COACH AND ASSISTANTS TO THE COACH. SO FUCK THE PLAYERS WHO THINK THAT BULLYING IS OK BY A COACH WHO AGREES WITH THIS TYPE OF BULLY BEHAVIOR TOWARDS HIS TEAM PLAYERS"