These Three Are Still Gonna Stick To The Oswald Is A World Class Sniper..& Ruby Was A Ligit Bussnissman. & There’s NO PROOF Oswald Attempted To Shoot ANYONE Else .. cause he didn’t. Fuckin liars 50 + years later.. & These Assholes Spewing THIER Bullsit.. ITS OFFENSIVE TO ME CAUSE ITS LIKE THEY THINK WERE ALL STUPID .. pisses me off HUGE
Yeah Don’t Anyone Call These Assholes The Three Lying CIA Scumbags. It’s not nice.. Also Don’t Say They Should Be Convicted Of Treason And Executed.. it’s not nice . So don’t say it.. ty..
So the ones making the claim have the burden of proof. The ones saying Oswald acting alone have the burden. The Warren report is the first of a number of government responses. The HSCA and others all support each other (the HSCA had a last minute caveat that included acoustic evidence. But this was later debunked). So then conspiracy buffs (like I was for 30 years) are asked well then who did it? You then have the burden of proof. No CT has ever provided one document, fingerprint, name, confession (credible that is), pay-check etc. I know where you're coming from but all the suposed cover-ups and suspicions have plausible, simple explanations. Occam's Razor beheads the conspiracy movement
@@billkeon880 The doctors at Parkland Hospital who were the first to tend to JFK all said they saw a entry wound from the front & a bigger wound from the back, (indicating a exit wound. There's no conspiracy. Not to mention all the laws the feds broke that day in Dallas of which HAS BEEN PROVEN. And again, no conspiracy's there, either.
@@allancove4483 what you've got there is folklore. The hole in the upper back wasn't seen by the parkland doctors, though it was seen at the autopsy. Parkland doctors were busy trying to save his life. The four main doctors that were involved in life saving procedures on JFK (Perry, Carrico, Jenkins and Baxter - Carrico was the first) were first on the scene and now all agree that the wounds in JFK’s cranium were just as the autopsy doctors and the Warren report say. Even the anesthesiologist (who was sitting near the head) said the same thing. Carrico described the throat wound as a mildly ragged opening, not a neat, round hole of entry. That is more consistent of an exit wound. That was prior to the tracheotomy. There were some doctors who described a rear exit wound in the head like Crenshaw and McLelland, but these doctors were all junior residents or very young, inexperienced doctors. None of the doctors in the room were pathologists, let alone forensic pathologists (which is why autopsies are done). According to the 4 more senior (but still quite inexperienced) doctors working on JFK, no one did any investigation of the wounds since life saving was the priority. That also explains why none of them knew about the entry wound to the upper back. Jenkins and Carrico said that the way the bloody and shredded brain bits caked on JFK’s hair falling downward to the back of the head could give the impression that there was a rear wound. The whole story about ALL the doctors describing a rear exit wound is ridiculous for another reason - the body was lying supine (face up) and the rear of the head was in contact with the gurney - no one could see it. And they didn’t turn the body over to do an examination because after about 22 minutes of emotional, frantic life saving and pronouncing him deceased, they were not about to poke around with a post mortem exam with Jackie sitting just feet away. Can you imagine JFK lying on his back with a tracheotomy sticking out of his throat and doctors frantically performing constant CPR on him and then one of the doctors saying “stop this CPR, take the tracheotomy out because I want to check out the rear of his head to see if a wound is there”? And McClelland or none of the other doctors testified that they lifted Kennedy‘s head or turned him over to investigate further. They DID NOT see the back of his head, so their descriptions of an area in the back of the skull being blasted out is mistaken. That goes to show how good eye-witness reports are - they are not. The HSCA contained a total of 9 expert pathologists (some who were forensic pathologists) and ALL of them (including Cyril Wecht) concluded that the autopsy photos, x-rays, report and conclusions were correct and unaltered and not faked. They stated this categorically. The autopsy was good and they agreed with its conclusion UNANAMOUSLY - a single bullet went through both men shot from the rear, another shot from the rear hit the head and no shot came from the grassy knoll or anywhere else. The HSCA's Forensic Pathology Panel included Michael Baden, John I. Coe, Joseph H. Davis, George S. Loquvam, Charles S. Petty, Earl Rose, Werner Spitz, Cyril Wecht, and James T. Weston. With the benefit of authenticated photographs, x-rays and notes from the Kennedy autopsy, a nine-doctor panel of expert pathologists reviewed and corroborated the Warren Commission's medical findings. Although the HSCA medical panel was critical of the thoroughness and methodology of the original autopsy, they unanimously concurred with the previous analysis of the late president's wounds: the cause of death being two, and only two bullet wounds, both of which entered from above and behind (the direction of Oswald in the Book Depository).
@@billkeon880 I'm not going to argue or debate this as its been beaten way to death by so many people that its beyond ridiculous. Based on the reading & research I've done over the years, the doctors said what they said. They saw what they saw. The feds broke more laws that day, than I care to count. And had they allowed for the doctors to of perform the autopsy which by LAW they had 100% LEGAL JURISDICTION to do at the time, it would've ended even before it had a chance to start, any & all conspiracy's or speculations to begin with. So by the feds/government breaking the laws like they did, all that did, was it made them look all the more guilty than what they already were. So that said, you can believe in the fairytale spun by the government & you can keep drinking the Kool Aid kid, & you can continue being wrong while I know that I'm right. And this will be the last I post on this issue with you. So move along kid, & keep buying into the governments bullshit. Bye kid, oh, & enjoy that Kool Aid.
That’s what academics do, accumulating a multitude of superficial facts the implications of which they can’t see because there are no university classes on the (universal) principles that would be necessary to understand the history they think they are studying. They study higher subjects to be sure, History, Political Science, Literature, Philosophy, but still there is no Higher Education because “higher” is for them a prejudice belonging to the superstition Old World and they throw it out-though they secretly, like Carl Sagan, want to be thought of as wise men! They are incomplete. Thus they cannot see the forest for the trees which they organize endlessly without understand that the whole damn thing is on fire! I know this because I spent my life among these superficial ninnies. JWC
I'm 71 years old. It was the day after my 12th birthday. I had liked him since he took office. I read everything he wrote. I've read almost everything written about this. By the time I was 15, I knew the Warren Commission report wasn't right. I'd like to know what happened before I die. I've not trusted the government since 1963. The Vietnam War was the CIA'S WAR. I wondered how Oswald could have went to the Old Soviet Union and got a job. He married a Russian. She was allowed to leave with him. I believe the CIA and the FBI did the plot. If LBJ wasn't in on it, which I believe he was, he helped with the cover up.
I tried to give these guys creditability until they actually said they believe Oswald was the lone gun man. And then give Johnson's view point full level of truth in regards to John Kennedy's involvement in killing Castro when In fact the CIA went down that path without John Kennedy's approval.
@@leemoore9933 you probably still believe in the tooth fairy. Your parents withheld the proof of that, the CIA if involved must withhold proof if any exists. As such direct proof is scant. Proof still exists in non-direct ways, principally in human associations. Humans by our nature are incredibly adept at reconstructing these. While you conclude conspiracy nuts, the more correct conclusion is that conspiracy is very likely.
I've seen countless interviews with credible medical experts, forensic experts, and experts in weaponry, attest to the fact that the fatal shot to the President came from a distance in front of the car. I am not an expert in any of these fields, and even though I am an educated man, it takes a minimum amount of common sense for me to come to the same conclusion. The Zapruder film clearly depicts a splatter of biological material from the back of President Kennedy's head hurling towards the rear of the car. Without an accurate crystal ball, I doubt that I'll ever be convinced one way, or another, of Oswald's part in the assassination, but I will never believe that there weren't at least two gunmen.
@@saparisrael2422 What was said about the CIA? I don't want to watch/listen to an hour and a half to find out. James Sutton's confession was enough for me. At least his confession makes complete sense---unlike the coverup stories.
During the Watergate examination of the WH tapes Erlichman was ask why Nixon always lowered his voice when the Kennedy assassination was mentioned. Erlichman replied; "He referred to the assassination as that Kennedy thing". Erlichman further stated; "It was as though he thought the people involved were still in power and a danger."
@@terrikay4622 @datikit01; All of these attempted portrayals are full of conjecture, presumption, assumption, subjective, and distorted, purposely, intentionally. Certainly, those that directed, dictated, controlled, ordered the killing public execution, murder, assassination of JFK are still in control They selected JFK, RMN, LBJ, HHH, DDE, HST, FDR, STA, GRF, JEC, EdM, RR, GHWB, DQ, WJ&HC, AlG, GWB, RCh, BHO, JRB, DJT, etc. They also executed MLK, RFK, Malcom-X, LHO, WmMcK,AbL, and numerous others. The group are know by many names: "globalist/elite"/Committee of 300/Illuminati/BlackNobility/SocietyOfRome/SocietyOfCincinnati/ChapmanHouse/NWO/etc.-stem from Rome,through all, include all EuropeanRoyalty, Kennedy family were among the Elite in Ireland before immigrating to the USA in early 20th Century - first generation selected/elected into political office =>thus among them, selected, chosen, JosSr. Ambassador to England during FDR. The information about JFK, RFK, etc. will remain hidden, purposely, though the retained files, documents do not contain anything explicit, including the MI6 agents, and other executors. [See Dr. JohnColeman-ComitteeeOf300-fmrMI6&CIAoperative-published document(s)] JFK was a mebver of the Elite, selected, degenerate and executed as an example, along with MLK, RFK, WmMcKin, AbrLinc., etc. All The Best. Sincerely
@@badmanskill1112 operation Zapata.... Zapata was George Bush's Oil company illegally slant drilling into cuban territory. Powerful men took out their impediment known as JFK. I always felt Watergate was Nixon's paranoia. E. Howard Hunt and Frank Stugis seeking information on Nixon's opponent if they had dirt on the Big Event. E Howard Hunt on his death bed confessed to being a benchwarmer to JFK assignation.
I have one problem with Kennedy Shooting.,. That most of the Doctors and Nurses at Parkland ..all said that there was a EXIT wound in back of Kennedy's head..They saw Kennedy before he was shipped back to DC.. Now you would think these Doctors/Nurses seen/get few GSW...?
I wasn't born in 1963, but I have been fascinated with the events surrounding the assassination my entire life. I'm thrilled to be planning a visit to the museum next month and can't wait. My question related to this particular presentation is, that if the theory was that Oswald was the lone gunman, then why has the gov't kept documents hidden from the American public for so long?
I was 13 years of age in the UK when this atrocity happened and was delivering newspapers all with headlines of the assassination on the front page, and I remember being embarrassed because I was crying so much, but then I noticed that other people of all ages where crying too, this is how it affected people all over the world, and even today when I watch the footage of him being shot down like a dog it still makes me cry, how can anyone do this! RFK and MLK both suffered the same fate, it's just unbelievable that these evil people where allowed to get away with this.
Yeah it's the one case where the conspiracy was so large and from the highest level that you will never be able to fathom. One thing I know is that just when you think you got it figured out a whole bunch of new suspects appear...
Non-assassin James Earl Ray had a 'getaway car' for the MLK version. In the front passenger door pocket was a note on a piece of paper. It included the address for Jack Ruby's Carousel Club even though Ruby was long dead by April 1968. The mafia part of the planning for both the JFK and MLK hits came from the same place. Dealey Plaza contained Army documentary photographers (movie result seen by Dan Marvin in the Green Berets for his sniper training) brought in from Ft. Hood. When MLK was shot, across the parking lot on the roof of the fire station were more Army documentary photographers, making sure that the big boys who organized another assassination could see how their subordinates rendered the handiwork the second time around. At least Henry II had some kind or repentance for Thomas a Beckett.
Phil: Thanks for the poignant memory. I haven't, but most people have forgotten what a huge thing this was. The only thing comparable in scale to that mourning, is the joy and the fires that were lit all over the world when the news of the Declaration of Independence was taken around the world--and by ships! Everyone in the world saw immediately the Beauty and "self evident Truth" of it, and it lit fires in the minds of people on every continent and in every nation. Again, thanks for the really poignant and helpful memory. Oh, and remember that Trump promised, but then refused to open up all the JFK files! So the coverup goes on. Nor did he pardon Assange or Snowden, but he's a "Man of the People," right? Take care. JWC
@@vernpascal1531 I’ve owned those books for years and read them. Bought Marrs back in the mid 1980s and read Crossfire about 4 or 5 times cover to cover. I believed a conspiracy from about 1985/6 and my thoughts were confirmed with Stone’s movie JFK which I saw in the theatre three times in the first month of release. I’ve watched it a dozen times on my expanded edition DVD. I also bought The Men Who Killed Kennedy documentary DVD and have watched it near ten times. I own and have read 25 conspiracy books including Mark Land (2 by him), Garrison, Waldron and Hartmann (2), Fiester, Hassan, North, McClennan, Baker, North, Russell etc etc. I also own about 40 or more books on the CIAs dirty tricks, black ops in other countries, Cointelpro etc. These things have been proven and many admitted. I believed and was neck deep in JFK conspiracy theories for 30 years until 2016. I always said, like the good scientist I am, that if better evidence were presented to show I’m wrong, I would change my mind. But in those thirty years, not once did I pick up a book by the opposing side. Partly because all I heard from the conspiracy community was insults about what the other side put forward as evidence even though I had no inside knowledge to verify that. I was also afraid it might puncture the balloon of conspiracy. I finally bought two anti-conspiracy books, and along with some background science the conspiracy story was blown out of the water. I could go into Jim Marrs and Stone and write a novel. But body of evidence on the conspiracy side comes from either ‘unknowns’ or eye-witness testimony and memory. 1: Conspiracy advocates first have to say to themselves, if the evidence shows no conspiracy, I will follow the evidence. That’s what science does. If you can’t say this to yourself then you are in a religion. I was in there. 2: conspiracy buffs have to honestly look at the evidence that’s come out in the last dozen years or so about how appallingly bad eye-witness testimony and memory is. Check out Elizabeth Loftus’ work on RUclips and research papers. She’s the leading researcher in this field in psychology. Please reply if you want more dialogue. I like discussion.
@@billkeon880 Take a good look at the holes in JFK's shirt and coat( Palamara's New Book Honest Answers). What is quickly apparent is there is no way a bullet entering 5 inches below on the collar goes out above the front Collar, and necktie.Also both Federal Agents at Autopsy, and both Autopsy Assistants said bullet did not go through the Pleura and exit out throat.
@@vernpascal1531 take a good look at the limo pictures in the parade that day. Just google Dallas Morning News photographs JFK. There are plenty of still photos and you will learn two crucial things. One (to answer the clothing question), JFK's coat and shirt were riding up his back. We've all done this. You get into a vehicle wearing a suit and as you sit, the suit slides up your back and pulls out of your waist. It's clearly seen in the pictures. If the clothes are higher when the bullet enters the body, the holes then appear to be lower when you take them off. Simple. When the clothes were examined, the fibles of the upper back hole were pointing inward toward the body, and the shirt and tie fibres were pointing out away from his neck indicating exit. The clothes are less relevant however, than the holes in the body. The second MAJOR thing you observe from the limo photos is that JFK was slid far to the right of the nack seat up against the edge of the car while Connelly was about 6-8 inches inboard on the jump-seat. That's a clear LIE Oliver Stone put in his movie. He would have known the truth by looking at the photos, so I can't give the benefit of doubt to one of my favourite filmakkers of all time. HE LIED on purpose. About the autopsy... it's nice that the others in the room including the FBI agents were board certified doctors or pathologists. Very talented people. Whatever they had to say is irrelevant. The subsequent HSCA contained a total of 9 expert pathologists (some who were forensic pathologists) and ALL of them (including Cyril Wecht) concluded that the autopsy photos, x-rays, report and conclusions were correct and unaltered and not faked. They stated this categorically. The autopsy was good and they agreed with its conclusion UNANAMOUSLY - a single bullet went through both men shot from the rear, another shot from the rear hit the head and no shot came from the grassy knoll or anywhere else. The HSCA's Forensic Pathology Panel included Michael Baden, John I. Coe, Joseph H. Davis, George S. Loquvam, Charles S. Petty, Earl Rose, Werner Spitz, Cyril Wecht, and James T. Weston. With the benefit of authenticated photographs, x-rays and notes from the Kennedy autopsy, a nine-doctor panel of expert pathologists reviewed and corroborated the Warren Commission's medical findings. Although the HSCA medical panel was critical of the thoroughness and methodology of the original autopsy, they unanimously concurred with the previous analysis of the late president's wounds: the cause of death being two, and only two bullet wounds, both of which entered from above and behind (the direction of Oswald in the Book Depository). It was Jackie who decided to take JFK to Bethesda while on Air Force One flying to Washington. There were a number of options open for the autopsy. If a conspiracy existed, they would have to plant conspiracy doctors in at least 3 possible military hospitals just in case Jackie decided on a different hospital, let alone the hundreds of other civilian hospitals that Jackie could have chosen instead - how likely is that? If you argue that ok, the autopsy doctors in Bethesda were not planted or coerced by conspirators, but there was pre-autopsy surgery on the plane or elsewhere before arriving at Bethesda you have to contend with two disqualifying facts: 1) there was no period of time the body was left alone with anyone other than Jackie or the closest and most loyal secret service staff of JFK’s detail until it was delivered to the autopsy site. 2) surgery on a dead body is very easy to be detected by autopsy doctors. Injury or surgery on a living person creates tell-tale clotting around the edges of tissue disturbance, while a dead person doesn’t leave this sign. Lifton’s case is thrown out on this one fact. Why did a few hospital personnel have differing accounts of the body or casket? - human fallibility and the well known fact in psychology of the poor quality of eye-witness accounts, especially years later when published suspicions of a conspiracy start percolating in the media. None of these ‘witnesses’ testified or revealed these ‘facts’ that contradicted the Warren report until years, even decades after its release. Besides, the ridiculous claim of pre-autopsy surgery came about because of ignorance of the facts surrounding the autopsy and conspiracists attempt to explain the supposed mystery.
The Sixth Floor Museum has become the Establishment’s theory of the case with nice, soft lighting and other designer touches. Substantially it’s mostly caca.
@@larrywheeler9917 Yeah, knowing you, the "tough questions" you asked must have been those like: "Where's that storm drain out of which reptilian shape-shifters dispatched JFK with 'Remington' .222 fireball weaponry?"
:). The word “ex-plain” means to flatten out, ie., to explain away! To me the idea that there are still all these forces put to work to conventionalize the official explanation of the murder of our president is what is truly astonishing and a blatant admission of guilt. JWC
Say what you want to but I still feel Johnson had something to do with all of it. He hated Kennedy and what he told his mistress (Brown) the night before the incident pretty well confirms it all. He was ruthless, conniving and hungry for the Oval Office. He would refer to the President as "that SOB" and had no respect for him. Will we ever know what really happened and who was responsible? Probably not because so much has been redacted (crossed out) from all these documents. People are so fixated on this because they want the truth, that's all. If the truth was to finally come out, maybe that would be the end of it.
If he wanted power so bad why is he the only president to turn down a nomination think about what ur saying. You really think he wanted that Vietnam mess ? C'mon.
@@enlightenedwarrior7119 He wanted to stay out of prison! RFK was gonna put the SOB, along with Baker, Estes, and others behind bars...do you think LBJ and his backers were gonna go quietly?
@Ms Happy Apple; Motive and means, even combined with opportunity mean nothing, without evidence. There is no evidence that LBJ had anything to do with the JFK assassination.
Several times they say is “lack of evidence” which three factors play a vital role on this case! 1. Time. 2. All records haven’t been released. 3. What we do have is either erased, blotted out, and lastly conjectured thoughts.
Dont think there are records saved by the conspirators that would directly imply they were guilty unless they wanted to boast or defend themselves of what they did was for the benifit of the good of the country. Johnson, Hoover, Dulles and others that benifited from the assassination in one way or another. Not all got away with it. Johnson, Nixon and Reagan as well as Mayor Yorty, and Agent Kellerman, all died on days the Kennedy's were assassinated as they themselves must have, 22nd and the 5th.
@@peterfraser9070 CT books mean Critical Thinking books... Nowadays we know the truth...so your CIA coined phrase given to describe Mark Lane...is long gone..they are now Conspiracy Facts!
@@bradrook3919 What facts? Which ones - all of them?? @ Oswalds, 2 rifles found? This is what I'm talking about; you are so hazy about what your CT even is. If someone says "back and to the left" is proof of s front shot, that's the most embarrassingly simple-minded thing ever. The Z Film shows 'forward' first, and 'up and forward' skull pieces above the head. Citing a lower bullet hole in the jacket and shirt is cringeworthy; they were bunched up, so they actually PROVE a higher base of the neck entry. You don't get to ignore these things and just blab about "assets" and "ops". Nothing has changed theft that the 2 bullets that hit those men came from Oswald's rifle and the mountain of evidence puts him in that window firing the rifle. You are making a common mistake: thinking an over-abundance of stories and believers proves something's true. Facts and evidence prove something is true - and you simply don't have it on your side.
@@peterfraser9070 your mountain of evidence is nothing more than lies that have long been found uncredible and debunked.. Victoria Adams asked David Belin to be included in the Warren Commission time trials as to Oswald escaping the sixth floor...he refused...she then told him to speak with Sandra Styles or Elsie Dorman as to when she left the fourth floor...but one can't have corroborating witnesses, so he again refused...this whole case is filled with the WC disallowing anybody who saw different other than their pre-determined theory.. Fact Oswald was in the 2nd floor lunchroom... Fact: The investigation of Tippit the Sargent in charge found 38. Shell casings at the scene...this is in Chief Curry's book.. Fact: Oswald never ordered a Carcano from Klines Sporting Goods..no Bank endorsements of all 4 bank institutions needed to deposit it into the first national bank of Chicago... No one disputes shots from the rear...but the Fact that the M/C cop which was behind and to the left of Jack was splattered with Brain matter.. Jackie retrieved part of his brain from back and to the left on the trunk.. Researchers have all Facts...your probably a Vincent Bugliosi fan...keep in mind he's an attorney that's trying to win over a case...he's Not interested in the truth...he's a lawyer that sells books with over 1600 pages in it...James DiEugenio destroys all in his book with Documents Leavelle said it best..if this case goes to trial...we just don't have enough evidence to convict...
I heard that there were people that believe Oswald was a lone killer but I can’t believe believe they would be intelligent men like these. This is so harmful to our government. This is so sad given the books by learned men that have uncovered so much more than these men are continuing.
I saw Oliver Stone's JFK at 8 yrs old and was traumatized. I believed there was a mass conspiracy and it bothered me. It seemed to me that the "Oswald did it all by himself" theory was the great minority. I decided to research and read books that argue that case because I genuinely wanted to know the truth even if it went against what I always believed. I read and seen every conspiracy theory in documentaries. I wanted to consider the possibility that he did do it alone. After reading "Reclaiming History" by Vincent Bugliosi and "Case Closed" by Gerald Posner I came to the conclusion that Oswald did it alone. All the other conspiracys were just that, failed plots that were not connected with Lee Harvey Oswald's lone plot.
Just the facts alone, that jfk was clearly shot by shooters from the front and not by Oswald who was behind him.. his skull blew out on to the back of the limo. The gaping wound in back clearly indicated that was the EXIT of the bullet
yep I REALLY do not understand the POINT of this interview....The rest were at least witnesses or around.....I really don't care what these guys have to say and didn't listen beyond a few minutes.....
Look up the video conspiracy lies it will clear things up. And if you never looked our the window and saw how easy of a shot it was you really can't understand how easy it was
@@enlightenedwarrior7119 the ease of the shot is not the point. That window was not used by any of the shooters. Mac Wallace was on the sixth floor. Opposite end of the building. Shots were fired from the Dal Tech building. And of course the grassy knoll area. The roof of the County Records Building was a probable sniper spot.
@@stevemaher7481 : The enlightened warrior speaks but doesn't account for the fact that a number of shots missed the intended target and hit the pavement, curb, and elsewhere. What about that? Perhaps he is himself a skillful sniper. But if he is, then it is unlikely that he would brag about how easy it is. My guess, however, is that he is just part of the ongoing commitment to keeping the Lone Gunman fantasy before the public mind. Really skillful marksmen are more modest than this fellow--all full of a blustering self confidence. Further more real warriors are not like this. And in any case, for the real warriors, the Martial Artists, the shooter "does not aim at the target, but at himself." But this is another completely different world than the one inhabited by those jackbooted thugs that are so proud of their kills in countries that have neither the capacity nor the intention to harm us! They didn't tell you in school that when we invaded Vietnam it was still operating on a barter system trading rice, etc., for silver, or needed trade goods: rakes, plows, wheelbarrows, etc. And they were a threat to us? Jesus! On this read Fletcher Prowdy's book "JFK," a very enlightening book. Prowdy by the way was the "Deep Throat" in Garrison's book on the assassination. He was there in 1963, and on the docks in Okinawa at the end of World War II! Read the book. It is a rare work. JWC
This really boils down to two reasons to me that can not be disputed, 1) Oswald was a known Marxist that defected to Russia, marries a Russian woman, had pretty much made his political views known through interviews and handing out Cuban pro Castro propaganda, gets a job at the Texas School Book Depository and nobody, I mean "nobody" is aware that this guy is there till after the fact? So the Warren Report with all it's fancy dictation and dialog never places any blame on the agencies responsible for keeping tabs on this guy and no one ever says anything about this. 2) The missile that struck Kennedy in the head is not the same type that produced the injuries to Kennedy and Connaly. Now you can say all you want that Kennedy's throat wound was a pass through wound that didn't hit anything solid but that argument can't stand up against Connaly's wounds. The bullet that hit Kennedy in the head was obviously a fragmenting (hollow point) bullet that done a lot of damage. More so than the other wounds that were discovered. Now I don't know and can't prove who fired those guns but there were two different guns used in the assassination. So even if the ballistics evidence isn't enough along with the eyewitness testimony from the doctors at Parkland Memorial that day the fact that Oswald slipped through the cracks on the day the President came to Dallas is just too huge for me to let go of. Think about what happened just 5 years later when they cut down Bobby. You would have thought the security detail would be at the top of their game by then at least. No there's too much smoke for me to believe that this isn't a sparkler this is a full blown forest fire.
The bullet and fragments were matched ballistically to Oswald's rifle on the 6th floor. The 'missile' that stuck Kennedy could ONLY have come from the Depository building, due to the position of the limo on Elm St., and the position of JFK's body and head in the car, both parallel to the limo, body slouched slightly forward, head tilted downwards. The head wound could not have been caused by a bullet from the knoll or the bridge, or anywhere other than the 6th floor. Four and a half years later in May 1968, while campaigning in San Francisco for the California primary, Robert Kennedy can be seen standing in a open convertible, being held by campaign aides from falling out, while he is shaking hands with well-wishers and supporters. I'm sure his security detail cautioned him that he was at potential risk, but that's the way it was back in that time.
@@jamesanthony5681 We will agree to disagree. That's what they told you. I just don't believe them and there were people within our government and within the mafia that had reasons they wanted Kennedy gone. No way I will ever believe the Warren report that had too many of these same people assembled on the Commission.
I've never heard that before. Are you sure with the International Time Change? The one reason that I've thought about a lot lately, that is among the top 5, or 6, why JFK was killed I think is a NATO Connection.
Joseph, u have provided the best clue ever! Its now straight forward solved case. Let the public revisit the log of calls an hour before the assassination. Who placed the marines in Germany on alert? From where was the cable sent? How many units or battalions world over were placed on high alert? Who was responsible for assigning secret service protection to JFK?
@@jeandixson5610 That' s what Fletcher Prouty aka Mr. X told. He was on a mission to the south pole and on his way back he has read the whole story in a local New Zealand paper. Don' t forget the time difference USA-New Zealand.
What concerns me is this: I'm an avid shooter and what many people would call a master marksman, That having been said I can't shoot 3 rounds at a moving target in the time frame that happened in Dallas. So that fact alone means that further investigation is needed and that someone is lying. Then we look at a few reports and eye witness statement saying a 7.65 mauser was found in the book depository and we know that this weapon is more accurate but is still not capable of firing 3-5 bullets in the amount of time given with the conditions on the 6th floor. So what is possible is for two shooters to fire two rifles accurately from the 6th floor and place shots accurately onto the street. The issue is this, with two shooters on the 6th floor the best opportunity would have been shortly after the presidential limo turned off of Main onto Houston street why wait until the Limo turned onto Elm? Then there's the issue of the damage to the Presidents head and the blood splatter onto the motorcycle policeman behind and to the left. There was also a piece of his head retrieved by Jackie from the rear deck of the limo. This would indicate that a bullet travelled in from the front and then blew the back of his skull out. If the bullet had come from the back as theorized then it would have damaged the presidents face and sent debis forward. Then there's Jack Ruby/Jack Rubenstein of Chicago/Jacob Leon Rubenstein which no one seems to want to take seriously. Jack was drafted into the military and served in the Army Air Force as an Aircraft Mechanic in WWII. For this to have happened Jack would have had to been extremely talented or connected. I think history shows that he was both. We know from public record that Nixon referred to Jack as a Johnson Man in 1947 and that he was an informant. If this is true it would explain why he was openly involved in so many different types of underworld activities. When you take a look at military activities in WWII you will note the America was not opposed to using organized crime to achieve its goals. I think it's a mistake to discount Jack Ruby because of what he was able to achieve in Dallas. It's important to remember he was a war veteran with very few resources in 1946 and that he was easily able to impersonate a newspaper reporter at several occasions during this entire ordeal. With Jack it's difficult to pinpoint a fire but the smoke is most definitely there.
Dude. JFK was shot in 5 directions by the best hit ‘‘em in the world. JFK’s limo was flown to Detroit the next day and shredded, the zapuder film to Kodak in Rochester Ny and doctored over the weekend. Either your gross nerd or woefully inept on researching JFK valid information.
Never bothered to address how the laws of physics were suspended for about 45 seconds when a bullet entering the rear of a head causes the head to go backward and the brain material to go toward the direction of the shooter. I was 16 when I saw the film. Had not taken high school physics yet but had some fundamental science classes and understood Newtonian laws. The single shooter from the book building does not match the films. Sorry boys. What a gigantic waste of time. I like the question RFK asked the CIA director, “ did you kill my brother?”. Now that deserves more time.
"He was absolutely heading for the border".......Firstly jumps on a bus home, gets out and gets a taxi home. Walks to the theater where he is arrested....how is that heading for the border?
Lucas Timouri I tend to agree with that thinking. Plus, LHO would have had a passport and hundreds of dollars. And, you don't "sneak in to" the theatre without paying.
Lucas Timouri nothing makes sense. He was probably ordered by his "handler" to meet at the movie theatre. Why he sneaked in????? And, if headed for the border, he would have had two or three passports on him and a lot of cash.
Lucas Timouri and, to get to the border requires money of which he had very little. And, had he taken that taxi ride, as intended, he would have had even less. Then, what is he to do in Mexico "peso-less?" Someone planning an escape has a lot of $$$$ on their person along with two or three passports.
Absolutely pointless video. Documents are still locked away to this day, 55+ years after the assassination. The Secret Service actually destroyed documents rather than hand them over to the ARRB, what does that tell you? They Warren Commission didnt even look at the autopsy photos and X Rays even though there was conflict in the testimony between the Parkland doctors and the pathologists. They didnt even interview Bethesda staff (apart from the pathologists) because they had all been slapped with gagging orders under threat of court martial. Even at the HSCA hearings the Parkland doctors were not permitted to see the autopsy photos. To this day, the public has not seen the full set of autopsy photos. Its nothing more than a fraud. What are they hiding?
México City serves as the perfect example of the use of disinformation and withholding key evidence. There was film footage from the Soviet embassy in Mexico City. Where is that? And, some say there is a photo of LHO at Mexico City. Where is that photo? Some say they have seen that photo.
When Oswald was picked up by Dallas Police it was on the assertion that he killed Officer Tippit. And why would he kill Tippit? The assertion was that Oswald killed Kennedy. Pretty pat and very false. To fire a rifle the pressure in the cartridge is huge and gases of gunpowder residue cloud around the receiver which does not contain these gases. No gunpowder residue was found on the swabs while Oswald was in custody. So if Oswald did not fire a rifle. Then did he kill Kennedy? No. He did not. And if he did not kill Kennedy why would he kill Tippit? There is no motive other than the false assertion that he killed Kennedy. So Oswald killing Tippit and Kennedy is missing an important item: what was his motive? None. Proof is he killed no one as witnesses say he was in the lunchroom at the time of the shots that killed Kennedy? So why kill Oswald with a Mafia connected hit? Oswald has a trail of involvement as CIA as well as FBI informant. He knew too much. He tried to call someone from Dallas Police and the operators would not put the call through. The killing of Oswald is more: it was the silencing of Oswald. In an extreme sense killing a witness. People who knew too much in the aftermath of the Kennedy hit were killed. Many of them.
No witness saw Oswald in lunch room at actual time of assassination. He was seen there before and after by different people but not at time if assassination. How did so many keep a secret/conspiracy for so long with mo leaks.?. Easily, because there was no conspiracy. Sometimes, shit just happens. There isn't always dark forces working in the shadows for every tragic event
Since there has been the creation of the “ Freedom of Information Act” we are now able to see how the CIA classifies different murders that they are involved in.. and I know that there are government shills that are going to say, the CIA only gathers Intelligence... that’s what their charter says they do - and everyone knows that they (CIA) only follow their own guidelines... You are now able to see what criteria is followed by the CIA when they are involved in murders....There are three(3) classifications that are followed:::: The murder is first classified as Open or Secret....In the Kennedy Case, it would’ve been classified as Open...no hiding or denying what was trying to be accomplished... Secret would be putting poison in a drink or food or putting chemicals into your cologne bottle to induce a heart attack....where an autopsy wouldn’t necessarily point to murder.... Next up it would be classified as GUARDED or SIMPLE... That is pertaining to whether the target has security protection or not... So the assassination would be classified as guarded...and lastly and probably the MOST important... It is classified as SAFE or LOST.... and in the Kennedy assassination is where it gets tricky because it is classified as Guarded-Open-Lost... and GUARDED-OPEN-SAFE... Lee Oswald was not supposed to be alive to be arrested... And Jack Ruby was not the one that was supposed to kill him... Jack’s name was never supposed to be known to anyone in America in reference to this murder
LHO was the lone gunman all the eveidence proves this, he killed Tippet because he thought Tippet would have frisked him and found the pistol, the man just killed the President killing a cop was nothing to him at that point, he tried killing another in the theatre. Stick with the facts they will set you free. Their were witness to this and a witness seem him toss his jacket under a care before heading into the movie house. How much damm guilt do you need. Oh he was a patsy, patsy my ass!
That building was owned by someone sketchy too. I think he was an oilman. Without JFK around LBJ brought us into Vietnam. JFK was going to get everyone (meaning the advisor spooks that were there because we had no troops there at that time. Wars run on oil. Follow the 💰 money.
and even if Oswald was a lone gunman (which he wasnt) that still does not mean there wasnt a conspiracy behind JFKs murder.......i think the CIA's refusal after 60 yrs to release their full files can be interpreted as an admission of guilt
The problem with Mexico City is that there is not one single photo of him there. All of the photos that the FBI had of him at both the Cuban embassy and the Russian embassy are of someone else who was older and had a different body type. But what is really strange about this, this person had Oswald's I.D. and he did apply for a Visa. Hoover advised LBJ that they could not even prove that Oswald was ever in Mexico City.
Show me a photo of Oswald. It doesn't exist. Even Hoover admitted that of the 20 photos they had of "Oswald" at the Soviet and Cuban Embassies not one of them was Oswald. But that is not the worst part. The Fake Oswald was using a fake Oswald I.D. to APPLY FOR A VISA! That is how deep the CIA Cover-up and frame of Oswald went.@@TELEVISIONARCHIVES
@@D1TemplarKnight And yet you cannot provide the photo, but why would that surprise me? Even Hoover could not provide one in the 20 photos taken that was Oswald. So in reality what we have is a fake Oswald who applied for a Visa using Oswald's I.D. (That is not the first time Oswald's I.D. has been used fraudulently.)
Great point. CIA was checking his mail but no security footage of him at the American Embassy in Mexico City; no flight logs, etc. No evidence Oswald went to Mexico City.
Therein lies the problem: you have this Silvia lady who reportedly told someone that she saw LHO at a dance party at Mexico City. NOTE the distinction: she didn't say it, but it was attributed to her. Same with the Warren Commission: there were "reports of interviews" NOT transcripts of interviews. BIG difference.
@@apointofinterest8574 Books I have read and heard the author say...the Secret Service did it by accident. There is likely 100 different versions of how and by whom. Don't get your ass in a twist over it. According to one book, the photo of a man in Mexico, was in fact ( according to the author ) was the KGB guy tracking LHO. The photo taken by a CIA agent or likely one of the shooters ( to be ) He was tracking LHO, to have a photo of him in or near Russian Embassy, which would later be leaked to FBI, or what would become Warren Commission. Was the KGB following LHO to determine if he were a double agent. Why would they need to follow him, did they know of a plot to kill JFK and LHO was part of the opt. ????
“Perhaps that smoking gun may yet exist; God knows there are enough dogged assassination researchers out there to find it if it does. But, so far, the documents seem to confirm the wisest twin conclusions about the J.F.K. assassination: Oswald was guilty, and acted alone; and, at the same time, the intelligence services-the F.B.I., the C.I.A., and the rest-were up to their armpits in bad acts that they were trying to keep concealed. These conclusions, as I wrote on the fiftieth anniversary of the assassination, point to two more: that the Warren Commission is almost certainly the only plausible account of what happened on that day in Dallas, and that the underlife of the government was more sinister, or at least more complicit in guilty knowledge, than the image makers of the time, and the Kennedys, wanted to accept or to publicize.” -Adam Gopnik The New Yorker
@@jackgriffin4893 There's ZERO CHANCE OSWALD ACTED ALONE! TOO RIDICULOUS FOR WORDS..SO DOZENS AND DOZENS OF WITNESSES ARE WRONG AND COINCIDENCES ALL GO ONE WAY?
They just go on and on putting a button on everything until you end up going, "Everything they do is for our good and Oswald did it. I said it. I feel better now." They sound like moonlighting G-men propagandists to me.
My family didn't tell me everything. There is a level of social pleasure and peace, unspoken rules, a need to know and not disturbing any relations. My experience is based in something from the 60s as well. Even these people in the video could suffer from those issues and all we got was "something social and acceptable" since then.
@@terrikay4622: The language is ironic, eh? The "coverup" leaves the wound un-covered, open, so that it can only fester and never heal. The wound is hidden instead of healed. This is the fallacy of Ford's pardon of Nixon. Justice is supposed to operate as the cultural surgeon and healer--but obviously it hasn't "operated" as it is supposed to for a very long time. What Ford did was unforgivable--thought the media got in line to declare it in the nation's interest and "courageous" into the bargain! Jesus! Of course Electron's comment is not wrong but just pointing out one of the psychological mechanisms that keeps us asleep or helps to keep us pacified. People say they "want to get on with life," but the wounded bleeding man cannot do that; he can't even walk, and may die of it (as our Republic has been slowly dying since the assassination and is now perhaps already dead from a thousand similar cuts), and certainly cannot "get on with life!" JWC
I've heard Sylvia Duran interviewed about her encounter with Oswald in the Cuban embassy in Mexico City, and I believe her when she says she never had an affair with Oswald, and never attended a Party with Oswald. Sylvia Duran said Oswald was became emotionally unstable and angry when she told Oswald she could not get him into Cuba, and Oswald was at the brink of Tears over the issue.
@@bluesky6985 i believe that bullets can enter, & exit from the rear, tho not @ the same time! Executions are carried out like that all the time! But I don't think JFK was assassinated by Oswald or shot from behind like they've been telling us for the past 59yrs. There's not a person on the planet who could pull off the shots they claim Oswald did! #1 criteria for a conspiracy to survive== it has to be believable! Same concept for 'president' biden- his election was bogus, faked, stolen, cheated, whatever other words you want to use!
So how did dirt poor Oswald afford to get to the USSR and than back with a wife and kid? How did dirt poor Oswald afford to get to Mexico City and back?
Read Pricilla Johnson and also Norman Mailer’s books on Oswald. Very in-depth on virtually every day of his life from 1959 until his death. There you will find your answers, including the USSR piece. Travelling to these places was not hard or expensive, especially Mexico City. He took a bus that cost him peanuts
@@sticks0012 Sam Holland was standing on the triple overpass and said he saw smoke and thought the shots and smoke came from the grassy knoll. But he was not sure the smoke came from the gun when he gave his testimony. He also testified that a secret service agent inside the car jumped up with a machine gun when JFK got hit in the head. So not extremely reliable account. Author EJ Epstein also asserts three other triple overpass witnesses also report smoke coming from the grassy knoll, insinuating rifle fire. However, this author was selective in his description - one of them; James Simmons actually thought the shots came from the TSBD and the ‘smoke’ was exhaust fumes. Clem Johnson reported the smoke as coming from a motorcycle and Austin Miller thought it was steam. In 1963 there was a steam pipe on the knoll embankment. Also, modern 20th century rifles rarely, if ever, give off smoke, let alone enough to hover over the area. The assassin didn’t use a musket. Besides on the morning of Nov 22 and during the parade, there was a moderate headwind of 5-20 MPH blowing north to south that the limo was driving into head-on. A puff of smoke wouldn’t hover. This headwind also explains why some of the motorcycle cops got some blood on them trailing the limo, though frame 313 of the Z film shows a forward explosion of blood strong enough to go forward into the headwind. The best Lee Bowers could do was say there was a commotion of some sort, but he could not be more explicit. There was a commotion. JFK was shot.
I don't for a moment believe much if anything these guys are saying, albeit they do admit there was a cover-up; I don't believe their conclusions in any way shape or form. I've read Mister Beauregard's comment and feel that he's made several good points. Dr. Cyril H. Wecht's report about the autopsy is spot on; namely that it was coup d'etat. He has impeccable credentials and astute reasoning skills.
I believe Dr. Wecht. His comments about who was chosen to perform this historic autopsy are priceless. And why didn't the autopsy doctors dissect the bullets' tracks? This is standard procedure.
David Atlee Phillips admitted in later years that Oswald never was in Mexico City. That tale was merely part of framing up Oswald. The "Oswald" seen on the bus and going to Cuban/Russian embassies was a recruited imposter. The Oswald photographed at the embassy turns out to be Ralph Gebb, a football friend of Mac Wallace's from high school as disclosed in the Free Form Friday show of 11-25-2022 from America's Untold Stories. Evalea Glanges, George Whitaker, and others got a clear view of the hole in the windshield The shot came from the front, from the southern grassy knoll where Tosh Plumlee heard it fire off, and smelled the gunsmoke. That bullet was supposed to hit JFK in the face but went low into his throat after passing through the windshield. Whitaker, as a Ford employee, knew the windshield was destroyed at the Ford Rouge plant and a phony replacement was made for the museum, with only a crack in place-sc of the hole. Another intact copy of the windshield was made to restore the limo when it was remanufactured. Embalmer Tom Robinson (Gawler Funeral Home in Washington DC) knew the throat shot was from the front because glass blasted back from the windshield micro-scarred JFK's face. That's why embalming fluid leaked out the front side, from JFK's face.
I heard one member of the panel say he believes Oswald operated alone. I can’t believe this suit is an educated person. Here are the facts: 1. What about the magic bullet crap. 2. The bolt on the rifle couldn’t have worked fast enough to fire the shots. 3. The rifle was notoriously inaccurate. 4. We know from military records that Oswald was not much of a marksman.
You're wrong on all these accounts. Very very wrong. I do know about the rifle and LHO shooting ability, I served in the Marine Corps in the 70's for 4 yrs so I can speak as an expert to this anyway, LHO was a sharpshooter thats the badge he qualified in bootcamp thats a pretty decent badge by USMC standards, we had to shoot at 200, 300 and 500 yards in bootcamp from various shooting positions, so a Marine with a scoped rifle with his skills could have easily pulled off an 87 yard (3) shots with 2 hits in 8 seconds, besides the facts all prove this. Oh the badge order USMC lowest to highest~~Marksman, Sharpshooter (LHO) and the highest Expert. Any Marine by an 87 yard shot would IMO be an excellent shoot.
@@johnclegg4993 Everything lined up in a straight line the bullet wasn't magic.Try other sources other then the movie JFK it was fiction made in Hollywood.
And anyone who can see-knows JFK was shot from the front in the head! This neuromuscular horseshit is only for elite lackeys who want desperately to believe Oswald somehow...someway could have acted alone.
Witnesses to Tippit's murder said the killer was short, thickset (kinda chunky) with bushy black hair who threw the murder weapon, an automatic to a (tall thin) man. Oswald wasn't thickset (kinda chunky) and did not have bushy black hair and wasn't tall.
After 54 years this is their Magnum Opus. Every school library needs a copy of these documents. Between 10,000 Leagues Under the Sea and Huckleberry Finn in the fiction section where it belongs.
How could Jacqueline not be in shock after her husband's brains were shot out. Anyone would be in some state of shock. She may have seemed in control but she probably was not and was in shock.
The 6th floor museum doesn't 'raise questions'. They don't take a side. They have pro conspiracy authors on, and those who don't believe in a conspiracy on. Also, what do you think is in those few remaining documents?? You really think it's evidence of a conspiracy? If there was a conspiracy, why the heck would they leave around documents revealing it that they knew would eventually get released? They would have just destroyed them!
Well at least I got to 55 minutes before my acceptable level of spin hit its max. Can you believe these guys? Checks in the mail boys. Checks in the mail.
No Chance Oswald Acted Alone. The proof is in the statements and testimony of the Medical Personnel at Both Hospitals. especially, the suppressed HSCA and ARRB Interviews,. The Conclusions never matched the evidence period!
Thought there might be something of value in this interview...but when these guys spoke about the "Oswald Mex. City trip" (which didn't happen, known because of the Sylvia Odio testimony (to Oswald's having been in Texas during the time in question)...and of that of the Cuban consulate personnel, Sylvia Duran and Sr. Azcue, who insisted the individual they'd spoken to in Mexico City was NOT Lee Oswald)) and about how the FBI had "let Oswald slip through their fingers," I quickly realized that this presentation is pretty close to PURE BALONEY!!!! Yikes, now they're claiming that Lee was guilty of spousal abuse!!!...and a violent guy. JUNK propaganda!!!!! I find this conversation to be extremely distasteful...and a waste of time!!! Better to clip one's toenails, take out the garbage and watch old Lucy episodes than to watch this mean-spirited and unreliable offal.
Yeah pretty sure Hoover and LBJ also said the Mexico trip never happened, and Mark Lane has some Fed on tape acknowledging the same thing. Total hogwash. Moving on.
As I am watching this on 10/19/22, I have lived through the government lies about JFK, 9/11, and the Covid virus. I would not have served in the Army in 1970 had I known then what I know today.
Their assumption is that nothing in the hidden files would justify keeping them secret for 54 years. What if their assumption is incorrect? Imagine that what's in the files could seriously harm our national interest, 54 afterwards!
The files would likely reveal government corruption, and if you want to protect a corrupt institution that is your government in its state of corruption then yeah you would want to protect these files, but if you're interested in having transparency and accountability for whatever may have occurred than it's a no-brainer that we would want to be able to look into this information.
@SixtehGloorMuseum: This is another presentation of some additional information these two men have gathered along with a few tidbits found thus far [at the time of this presentation] from some of the released records. These two men, basically have a similar view, perspective and perception which accepts the conclusion that Lee Harvey Oswald was the Assassination of JFK acting alone. Mostly they mention their character evidence about LH Oswald, which confirms their conclusions then additionally mention some basic character about Jack Ruby which indicates he was as claimed, just a distraught citizen, about the death of JFK and concerned for Jacqueline's mental welfare to go through a trial, thus "reliving" the horrible, horrific event. However, they actually misrepresent or ignore other known information about LH Oswald who was known to have been working for the CIA, defected to the USSR as CIA Agent/Spy, then returned after nearly three years, recently placed in Dallas with the job at the Book Depository. The presented information about LH Oswald's activities and connections with people in Mexico, adds to the story regarding his possible next assignment and involvements. Also, their information about those LH Oswald had connection with in Mexico lead to three possible conclusions which appear to be mutually exclusive and contradictory, except for someone who has further work as CIA Agent to investigate all three types of persons there. They also completely ignore the obvious forensics information, especially that of the credulous Dr. Cyril H. Wecht, regarding the certainty of at least two bullets which hit JFK are certainly from two different directions; one certainly from the rear, entering the upper back near the neck, apparently exited through the front of the neck in the throat, one certainly entering the skull from the front [right], forehead [the obviously most deadly]. The second bullet entering the forehead from the right front, is obvious from the backward reaction of the head of JFK, and the blood spurt exit from the forehead just post the bullet's entrance [seen in the frame]. The additional information about the bullet [or two] which injured Senator Connolly, which cannot be connected via forensic data and analysis is another important point. Thus, the premise of the a single assassin shooting and killing JFK is certainly not viable. Any information about JH Oswald and Jack Ruby mentioned here, if true and accurate, does not support the idea of a single assassin, nor verify JH Oswald as an assassin either. At most it is circumstantial, character information which is not logical or legal proof nor sufficient to convict anyone according to law. Was hoping to hear about some possible important information seen in the released files, but actually, We would not expect anything significant, and likely just more of what these men are mentioning and presenting. Any meaningful information which could be useful, would have certainly been destroyed long ago or any possible small portions of information or details which could lead or clarify any possible multiple gunman or conspiracy will remain hidden, since it would have additional affect upon the public's mistrust of Government, further undermine the character, view, perspective, perception of the agencies involved and more so to possibly uncover the actual controlling Cabal/Elite which exist and operate Worldwide. Though, these men and others state those involved would be long gone and not meaningful, that too contains a false premise. Actually the statements and reality of those who still write, analyze, discuss, present views, perspectives, perceptions, conclusions about the assassination of Abraham Lincoln, is a testament to the continuing affects, now 155 years later, as will the assassination and killing of JFK, MLK, RFK. Are there many questions about the assassination of President McKinley too? If interested, listen to RFK Jr. speak about specific, details he knows regarding the death of his uncle and father. Sincerely
The premise of a single assassin shooting and killing JFK is *CERTAINLY* viable. A bullet entering the forehead from the right front is *NOT* possible. And I'm surprised that you fell for that. You conspiracy folks keep mentioning physics and momentum and 'back and to the left', while completely ignoring mathematics, specifically geometry, and the angle and trajectory of an incoming bullet in relation to the President's head AND the wound that he suffered. Mathematics is more important. It's NOT possible that there was a 2nd shooter, i.e., from the knoll, bridge, sewer, or whatever. Examine the Z film closely. Read up on the head wound. Come to your own conclusions.
The right shoulder wound bullet fell out on an exam table when X-ray technician Jerrol Custer was moving JFK's body around for X-rays. It has nothing to do with the neck wound. Details below. Jim Jenkins was at the same Bethesda autopsy and helped Dr. Boswell remove JFK's lungs and heart. They sat the corpse up on another exam table and found the bullet had only penetrated about an inch and a half, not even penetrating the pleural membrane around JFK's right lung. See the Jim Jenkins interview in Valuetainment for example. Again, the bullet into the shoulder had nothing to do with JFK's throat or neck area. Here is how the shots fell: (1) Zapruder frame 155-- a signal shot with pyrotechnic color sparks was fired into the pavement (left rear of limo) to signal all shooting teams the assassination was a go. Notice how the front left tire is abnormally thick on the yellow car-- poor retouching of this frame. JFK heard the shot and glanced left, then put his head back forward without worry. This head turn is censored out of the Zapruder film. (2) Z206-- JFK is shot in the shoulder, behind the sign, and exclaims (heard by SS Agent Kellerman) "My God! I am hit!" so we know his vocal chords were still intact as in he was not shot in the throat yet. The purpose of this shallow underpowered shot (prepared by Chauncey Holt at the CIA specialty arms shop in Goleta, Calif., near the airport) was to get JFK to flinch up and hold his head high, above the windshield. The same is done by Saudi sword executioners-- they prod their victims in the shoulder with a sword tip to get them to arch up and extend their necks. In Saudi Arabia, it's to make it easier to do a neck chop. For JFK, it was to get him to raise his head high for the next shot. We know from Jim Jenkins's eyewitness reports that the bullet came down at an angle from the high rear. Assassin angle #1. (3) Z222-- JFK is shot in the throat by mistake, from the front left (details to follow). Count the frames, times 0.055 seconds per frame, from Z216 to Z222. The two shots were 0.088 seconds apart. The fastest the Mannlicher-Carcano bolt can be cycled is two seconds, plus aiming time. It is physically impossible for one person to make both shots, not to mention that the Z206 shot was from behind and the Z222 shot was from the rear which proves two shooters already. Look at Willis photo #5 and you will see the traffic sign that covers JFK between Z206 and Z222 didn't cover JFK in the real world = the genuine Willis #5 photo. You can see Zapruder's lens line of sight went UNDER the sign, i.e. Zapruder's camera saw JFK and his car go under the sign. Also, from Zapruder's pedestal, the traffic sign could only cover about a third of JFK's limo at one time. But in the faked Zapruder frames you can see 99% of the limo covered top to bottom and left to right. This was to conceal the close timing of the two shots and hide their origins. The throat shot first went through the limo windshield a little to the driver's left of the rearview mirror. Backtrack the angle from the throat back out the windshield hole and you see the shot came from the southern grassy knoll, where Tosh Plumlee was close enough to hear the shot made and he even smelled the gun smoke. Obviously the shot was not intended to go through the windshield but it dropped low. Probably due to silencer problems (stretched lumen from prior firing with 7.62x39 ammo which is cheap and of variable diameter, whereas higher quality 7.62x51 ammo would be more likely used for a professional hit). A stretched silencer bore or lumen would mean a quality .308 = 7.62x51 shot would be artificially and unexpectedly underpowered due to lost blowby gases. The shooter was a professional and right on target for centering his shot, but it must have been a mechanical problem that dropped the shot low from JFK's head into his throat. We know from Evalea Glanges and George Whitaker (Ford employee) that the hole was there, conically from front to back. Windshield expert Whitaker knows the original was destroyed to hide evidence, and two replacements were made. One windshield to repair the limo, and the second windshield as a fake for the museum, with a phony crack inserted in place of the destroyed-evidence hole-- to hide the fact this shot was from the front. Notice a shot from the southern grassy knoll at Z222 lines JFK's head up with the book depository. This shot was likely intended to be the final headblaster finishing shot. The autopsy fakers at Bethesda could then enlarge the entrance to make it look like an exit wound (with the true exit lined up with the book depository as if that had been the origin), and then that would have met the conspiracy's needs. But fate intervened. Further, notice that in Willis photo #5 we see Umbrella Man was really standing on the Zapruder side of the sign (in back of the sign's rear) and about 10 feet away from it. In the faking done for the Zapruder forgery, Umbrella Man is supposedly standing alongside the sign and on the other (frontside = street side) of the sign. Once Umbrella Man could see JFK's head was not blasted to hamburger yet, he jerked his sign up and down to signal downhill for more shots. Notice also that in Zapruder frame Z220 the upper right corner of the sign is cut a little blunt from botched cutting and pasting of the grotesquely enlarged sign. In the other frames the upper right of the sign has a more carefully cut rounded corner. Notice in Zapruder that the jerking of the umbrella has been censored out. JFK is still alert and sitting upright with raised hands and arms, in pain until Z250 when he was rendered unconscious. Jackie had by this time seen his left elbow fly up (she couldn't see his right arm) and was tending to him to try to figure out what his problem was. Between Z222-Z255 (1.8 seconds) he had a quizzical look on his face and could only make gurgling noises. Jackie heard zero shots the entire time due to motorcycle noise at her immediate left rear. Parts 4-7 follow in another posting. .
(4) Z250-- JFK was hit from the rear with a horizontal shot (not steep high rear as in the Z206 shoulder shot. We now have three shooters) an inch to the right of the external occipital protuberance and up a quarter inch. This is known from Dr. David Mantik's examination of photos from the Harper Fragment of JFK's skull. We know from Dr. Boswell's notes that this bullet ended up between JFK's vomer bone (rear of the nose) and his right eye orbit. This instantly obliterated JFK's consciousness, and you can see his hands then arms start to drop away in subsequent frames. See Costella Combined Edit for example. He is hemmed in by the car and by Jackie, but despite those constraints you can see he is developing what neurologists call decorticate posturing-- due to the serious brain damage. Extravasated blood is starting to pool inside the right half of his skull. (5) Z290-- JFK is shot through the right forehead above the right eye at the hairline. His thick shock of hair kept this entry wound from being seen at Parkland, but was seen by mortician Tom Robinson and also by photo expert analyst Quentin Schwinn as a 7-8mm diameter wound. If you look at a high resolution copy of the Mary Moorman photo, you can see the exit hole from this wound. It is about 2x2 inches, shaped like a stubby crescent, and high at the back peak of JFK's head. Comparison of camera angles and the positions of motorcycle cops and JFK's head and lens positions reveals that the Mary Moorman photo was taken at Z316. This exit wound hole is dark due to the noon sun angle but not totally black due to ambient light, and at its edge you can see (in high quality Mary Moorman photo copies) the thin jagged line of white that is the edge of JFK's cracked skull bone material, as blasted open by the exiting of the bullet. By the time of Z290 JFK's head is drooped down due to the unconsciousness of his collapsing from the Z250 shot. Backtrack the angle from the exit to the entrance to where the bullet came from, and you can see this shot came from the curb as an upward shot. There is nothing there but a storm drain hole. Obviously this shot had to have come from the storm drain hole which explains why the storm drain hole is airbrushed out of the Nix film version of the JFK shooting sequence. Read up on Jack Lawrence and you will see why he is Suspect #1 for making this shot. Lawrence also was a pal of George Senator, Jack Ruby's apartment roommate. Consult the Roberdeau maps of Dealey Plaza to see why this shot had to have been made at Z290, give or take a frame or two. Sergio Arcacha Smith was one of the two team drivers who tried to kill Ramblin Rose Cheramie on their way from Florida to Dallas to kill JFK. When Smith's apartment was searched, he had engineering blueprints for the storm sewer drainage system of Dealey Plaza. Dr. David Mantik has an X-ray showing how the Z290 bullet tracked from front to back and left particles along the way inside JFK's head. Particles that look like mercury globules that would have been leftovers from being packed into a hollow tip dum-dum bullet. We now clearly have four assassins, considering the physical evidence of the wound angles and sniper angles. More wounding also means more blood leaking out of JFK's blasted brain tissue into the excavated bullet tracks. (6) Z313-- This was the headblaster shot made right in front of witness Bill Newman. It was a larger caliber explosive bullet, likely loaded with mercury fulminate. It created an exit flap out the right side of JFK's head, hinged at the bottom like a small breadbox door. Newman saw that the blasted hole was hollowed out and big enough to place a baseball inside JFK's head. At that point he grabbed his wife and kids and dove for the ground. He didn't wait for the springiness of the connective tissue to shut the flap. Jackie has still seen no blood at this point because everything has stayed in JFK's body so far, or been blasted out the rear or the right side where she cannot see. Jackie is still puzzled by her husband's strange motions. The entrance for this wound was the right rear occipitoparietal region, and will soon be obliterated by the next bullet. Now massive amounts of loose blood are pouring into the hollowed out right side of JFK's head, as if from a garden hose, for the next 1.65 seconds. Owing to the rear angle of attack, we can't tell if this hit is from another sniper or is a second hit from a previous sniper. The sniper count remains at four, minimum. (7) Z342 to Z343-- JFK receives another explosive headblaster from the front right, nominally from the grassy knoll fence. This means the evidence demonstrates, from the sniping angles and wounds, a minimum of five snipers. You can see a chunk out of JFK's head (backed up by Jackie's white glove to highlight it) at the right rear exit. Mortician Tom Robinson and Parkland Dr. Robert McClelland put the entrance as a 5mm hole in the middle of the flap that formed in front of Bill Newman's eyes at Z313. It was at JFK's hairline halfway between his right ear and right eye. The exit was right occipitoparietal skull, forming about a 4x4 inch exit that blasted away the entrance from the Z313 shot. Robert Schorlemer was one of the first medical personnel to tend to JFK at the Parkland Emergency Room and he said that by this stage of wounding JFK's right skull was blasted almost entirely loose and held on by nothing more than a flap-hinge to the rear. Note that Jackie is not screaming as late as Z342 but gets vocal by Z343. She has just seen huge masses of JFK's brain and blood spraying like an explosive fountain all over the trunk (where they are falsely censored from the Zapruder film) and this is when she starts to stand up, then turn around to retrieve pieces of his brain from the trunk. As Clint Hill and Dr. Marion Jenkins (anesthesiologist) said, she was trying to fetch pieces of his brains so the doctors could hopefully put him together again. In the Nix film, Jackie crawls back almost to the rear of the trunk. In the Zapruder dummied up version she only travels about halfway back. There is more fakery involved in the films and the faked testimonies involving the Warren Commission, but this write-up has to end some time. There were more than a dozen other bullets, mostly from rifles equipped with silencers. Which is why most witnesses heard only 3 shots, give or take. ---END---
Firefly: Fine essay. An academic who will look no further than the conventionalities of "received wisdom" is, whether intentionally or inadvertently, just a gatekeeper for official narratives. Something said by Nietzsche is relevant here: "Scientists dig up what they themselves have buried." Ossified presuppositions are not presuppositions at all but fixed parameters and are created and used by men who are neither free nor want to be--and they certainly can't help their neighbors to be free. There used to be something called "intellectual courage," but these guys are just flaccid passive and contented sheep. My basic feeling about them is contempt! Jay Warren Clark
@@jayclark2077 A. Clearly You don't know what is an "essay", thus mislabel my comments for Your personal distorted views, ideas, etc. B. Your comment seems to be among the are within philosophy, using such views, perspectives, thinking, suppositions, and such. C. Your view about these specific individuals, is clearly with some negativity, disdain, etc. and clearly from their presentation, bias, numerous lacking within, without, and clearly involved in the common inDOCtrination and Propaganda. C. However, to claim some ideas from Neitzsche, a philosopher, involved in psychology, which is at most as "Study" [-'logy'] with his claims about "Scientists" is a poor basis, obvious biased, baseless nonsense, since Nietzshce never studied science, used, followed the philosophy of Science, Scientific Method-Methodology" with any aspect of his philosophical, psychology, efforts 'work' during his lifetime => Thus, invalid with any claims about reason, logic and science. D. Yes, clearly this topic about the deaths, killing, murder, assassination of JFK is one a many which remains intentionally, purposely distorted, hidden [still] as with his brother RFK, MLK, Malcom-X, Robert McKinley, Abraham Lincoln, numerous others with the USA alone and far more abroad Worldwide, still. Sincerely
The only thing Oswald had to do with the assassination of JFK was to be strung along made feel important long enough to be labeled then shot . It must be said that you have to hand it to the people handling Oswald . That he only realised he was set up after the shooting probably just before coming across offic0r Tippit who was coming to kill Oswald .
Meh... the shots coming from the depository is plausible. The wounds are plausible. Oswald trying to assassinate a 2nd public figure after Gen. Walker is plausible. Is it possible some mystery person took the shot from the window, yes. But it's also totally possible Oswald did as well.
You make a startlingly obvious point that I've not heard here my friend. Away from the hubbub of Dealy Plaza...out in the wilds of Oak Cliff...on an ordinary day Tippitt and LHO have very little chance of even crossing paths let alone having a shootout in the middle of the street. With upwards of 30% still clinging to the Warren Commission Fantasy we must continue to pile up the evidence before we can make our case. "It may be too late for justice but its never too late for the truth."
@@bribos99 The truth in this whole affair may never be revealed in an open and honest way , The power structure that orcastrated the assassination also controlled the media in a way that the news wasn't impartial it was bias and the tone with narrative sold the lone gun LHO never stood a chance within an hour every law man was looking for LHO his name was in NZ NEWS papers the following day . I know the truth . it sux but at least I'm not blind I have a mind and it works to my program not some hopeful gov that can't even lie they would have to prove it was LHO they never could they never would that's enough for me
Before I die, I would like to tell the story of my learning about the assassination of JFK. My father was stationed at Elmendorf, AFB, Anchorage, AK. from 1960 to 1964. It was a very interesting time for the military, stationed so close to the Soviet border. There was the Bay of Pigs fiasco and the Cuban Missile crisis, both of which occurred before the assassination. The military was very conservative and didn't much like Kennedy's foreign policy, which they thought made the United States look weak. I personally don't remember the Bay of Pigs incident, but I remember vividly the Cuban Missile Crisis. During the crisis, all the military personnel would gather in the parking lot of the on-base housing, with their families, after hours, and discuss the ongoing crisis. It's the first and only time I ever saw any fear in my father's face. After all, in case of a nuclear exchange, we would be the first to die. I attended the 3rd grade at Government Hill Elementary School (which was later destroyed in the Great Alaskan Earthquake of 1964). Mostly the school was populated by children of military families. As was the custom of the school, the first order of business in the morning was school announcements over the PA in every classroom. During school announcements, the doors of every classroom were to be left open to the hallway. On the morning of November 22, 1963, when it was time for morning announcements, the principal of the school came over the PA. Normally, school announcements were given by 6th graders, a reward for the senior students of the school. So, when the principal began speaking, I knew this was different. I still remember his exact words. "I regret to inform you that the President of the United Staes, John Fitzgerald Kennedy, was assassinated in Dallas, TX today." I remember immediately being stunned by the news. What stunned me more was the cacophony of applause and cheering echoing down the halls of the school from all the military children in the school. That always bothered me. I stayed up all weekend with my father watching the weekend's events. I saw Oswald murdered on live TV. We watched the procession from the White House to the Capitol Rotunda, and, of course, the funeral. Having lived through this event, I've had a life-long interest in the JFK assassination. My main thought is the Warren Commission Report is the greatest work of political fiction ever published. Edit: Opinion: This "tiny" sliver of the American population who are communists now populate academia, media, politics, judiciary and corporations.
Just to put a different perspective on this...I was an 8 year old military brat. My father was stationed at the Pentagon. We had a portrait of Kennedy in our living room. When the news came over that he had been shot, I cried and prayed until the death was announced. It was one of the saddest days in my life. Judging from my experience and the different footage of him interacting with the public, I would say he was much more loved than hated by the American public. Most the hate came from the deep state such as leadership in the SS, CIA, and FBI and also the mob. I've read alot of SS agents did not like the way he disrespected Jackie with all his womanizing and that makes sense to me. There were also alot of generals who thought they knew better than this young college kid who they considered too weak. But the public loved him probably more than any president in history.
@@alwayslernin4400 College kid ? John F Kennedy ? Captain of WW2 PT boat ? Weak ? Where in God's name did you come up with that BS ? Read the story of PT 109 & get a glimpse of why JFK was loved by so many. The Secret Service agents spend 12 to 14 hours some days for months without a break. I would say overworked & many the night / morning before went out drinking. When your hung over as many of these agents were. They are not on their best guard. In fact its a reason why the agent that kept the Limos in good shape was holding the sniper position in the follow up car that day. Not familiar with that role he took that fateful day.
You can talk about the assassination, you can talk about people in some way involved in the assassination investigation and then there is the Warren Commission . . .
the reason i think there was a conspiracy was at Parkland when the secret service did not allow the autopsy to be conducted there, and took the body from parkland without proper release. Why did they not allow an autopsy to be conducted then, by doctors who were experienced and would have treated the body with respect and not carved up the back of the head like they did on the plane on the way to bethesda.
And you think the Secret Service acted against the wishes of Jackie and RFK when they moved the body out of Parkland? Jackie specified the Bethesda Naval Hospital as the site of the autopsy because her husband served in the Navy in WWII.
I used to think that also but then I think if that was my husband I might have wanted him out of Texas asap feeling like I was in enemy territory. That's not true but I could understand her feeling that way if in fact it was left up to Jackie . I also think I would have left it up to the people responsible for that kind of stuff. There is so much more evidence of government involvement that to me it is clear what happened. Any doubt should be dismissed by the fact that the government has been keeping these files from the american people ever since.
@@jamesanthony5681 Jackie insisted on Bethesda after the body had left Parkland. The Secret Service wanted the autopsy done at Walter Reed Army Hospital. Because of her insistence on Bethesda and on staying with the bronze casket, they had to improvise, which led to the body being removed from the bronze casket and brought to Bethesda in a shipping casket and in a body bag, when the body had been wrapped in sheets at Parkland. This gave them time to alter the body before the official autopsy began.
The moderator tried, perhaps too timidly, to break through the armor of the two academics, but was not successful. I think his heart/mind was in the right place but wasn't the warrior that was needed in this situation. As A. K. Coomaraswamy put it, "one cannot seek the truth and expect to stay out of a fight." Some things are Either/Or and there's no other way but to stand your ground. But then that's a warrior's business, eh? JWC
I've been studying this case for 54 years, was hoping to learn something new, just the same old hashing and rehashing of old speculation with no new information from the two gentleman on stage. In my opinion a waste of time .
At the 32:08 mark, the gentleman in the middle said that the “conspiracy theories” would make a lot of sense... He said it would’ve made a lot of sense for the Mafia to want to see Kennedy dead.... In the very next sentence, he said it would make a lot of sense for Cuba to want to see JFK dead... I wonder how he came up with that conclusion because I saw a video of Fidel - when asked if his government had anything to do with it -he said that, “it would’ve been absolute insanity for us to be involved in his murder...it would’ve given the United States an excuse to invade my country.” I wonder are these guys really just government shills - there to perpetuate the lies... (after he said that - did he also say it would’ve made sense for LBJ to murder Kennedy...because that’s also true...if he didn’t, it’s proof of purpose there...just a government shill)
So did Oswald have the power to tell the military detachment from San Antonio who normally would have been supplementing the security in Dallas to stand down and that they were not needed? Did Oswald have the power to minimize the number of Secret Service people on the motorcade route who normally would have made sure no open windows on that route?Did Oswald have the power to make sure the presidents car made a ridiculously sharp turn that would bring that car to a near dead stop right in front of the Texas School book depository? Did Oswald have the power to make all phone service in Washington go off for an hour minutes after the assassination in Dallas? Did Oswald have the power to get a president to go to Dallas when he did not want to go? Did Oswald have the power to change a german mauser rifle originally IDed by Dallas Police into the italian rife he alleged to use?Why would Oswald order a gun thru the mail making it traceable to him when Dallas had no lack of gunshops he could have bought a rifle from that wouldnt be traceable to him?And did Oswald have the power to appoint a commission that would ignore all contrary evidence and never interview key witnesses to support a crazy lone gunman theory?
Pictures say a 1000 words. He was hit from the front. Maybe 2 people up on that grassy knoll I've been there and a brick wall is about 2 ft high all around the area .It's very long ..At one end there is area that goes down a hill into a parking lot. I'm not watching this b s anymore. Go look
1963 was the year that I stopped trusting the grown ups for various reasons.. Kennedy's death among the reasons The church bombing in Birmingham. I'm 64 now..long before the internet, it was clear to me that egos trumped ethics in D.C. decades ago Trust yourself.
Right on. This video is about to sell his book about Kennedy Legacy, but before he only said Oswald was the killer the rest is all conspiracy to sell his former own books Watch ruclips.net/video/yQldCMrxQpU/видео.html . After Trump released more docs in 2017 there is a file saying that in the 60´s there were 40 journalists on payroll by CIA to produce fake news, I believe this goes on up to this day because some are uploading videos of high quality to convince the public of a lone assassin.
A number of witnesses claim that after the second shot the Magic Bullet stopped in mid-air after it hit Kennedy and winked at them and said hello, then it went on through Connally
Most of the evidence was lost in the first hour after the assassination. Videos taken at the time show cars driving on Elm Street ten minutes later. I realize that they didn't have the forensic understanding that we have today, but they should have known better than to perform as badly as they did. If I were running a conspiracy that included the Dallas Police, I would have had them secure the crime scene and collect bogus evidence so that history would show that I didn't ignore what should have been done. For starters, they should have parked two police cars across Elm Street at the corner by Houston Street and prevent any vehicles from driving on Elm Street. They should have cleared people out of the plaza after taking names and checking identification. They should have searched every inch of the grassy knoll, Elm Street, the sidewalks, the tunnels under the triple underpass, the grassy areas south of Elm Street, the faces of the triple underpass, the trees, the signs, and the traffic signals. A policeman discovered the blood on James Tague's face. He should have ensured that triple underpass areas were secured and searched for traces of a bullet. If a bullet hit the curb directly, that bullet would have fragmented and sent pieces of bullet all over the face and into the tunnels. Those fragments could have been recovered. People have talked of sparks or something on the ground behind the limousine as if a missed shot hit the road there, but no one ever did a thorough search of the street to find the exact spot where a bullet hit. I don't know who is guilty and whether a conspiracy was involved. Maybe Oswald acted alone, but the forensic investigation was poorly handled.
This tells you that at leadt a portion of the Dallas P.D were in on the execution. They led the lamb to the slaughter. The Dallas Cop that was guarding the door let Ruby into the garage.
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I would suggest to the directors of the museum to try to get an interview with a Mr Cornelius Edward "Neil" Gallagher ex congressman of New Jersey. I was disappointed somewhat in this interview as it primarily is only telling the public the same story, ongoing for more than 50 years. Please make the effort and contact Neil Gallagher and listen to him.
agreed, buzz. i'm not familiar with gallagher. but i was disappointed, too, that the two speakers are turning a blind eye to the evidence, or suspicious lack thereof. who controlled the "evidence" in this matter? cyril wecht was a guest speaker at the 6th floor at about this same time (nov 2017), and you can find his video in their video selection. "a case for conspiracy with dr. cyril h. wecht." he paints an entirely different picture.
The museum has always been about furthering the "lone nut" stuff. Remember how they turned Gary Mack? It's not the truth, it's the agenda. Dr. Cyril Wecht is a sharp guy.
thanks, buzz. i will have to watch that video later. hopefully tomorrow. and i'll report back when i do. its clear that the status quo was threatened by jfk and rfk. well, that's my belief. and, what i shame. maybe they could have cleaned up the federal government. it continues to fester.
Il y a une trop grande quantité de choses étranges, illogiques, dans cette affaire pour que la thèse de l'assassin solitaire soit vraiment crédible. Idem pour l'assassinat de Robert Kennedy en 1968 ...
President John F. Kennedy (in his own words). As an adult looking back over the years, I can’t help but come away with an eerie sense of incongruity between the man I hear speaking (President Kennedy) versus the way he is often portrayed in the Mainstream Media. In his speeches, Kennedy comes across as a man of great courage, conviction and intellect. A person who doesn’t seem to have a problem with truth telling. Yet, in the Mainstream Media, they tend characterize him as a man who has problems with indiscretion. I recently re-watched the Zapruder film, and I noticed a different type of incongruity. Look at the film again for yourself. Notice how the film doesn’t actually show the first shot. You know, the shot in the neck. That’s because there was a rather large sign obstructing Zapruder’s field of vision. As the film continues and Kennedy’s limo passes the sign, then you notice right away that the President has already has raised his hands to his neck. Therefore, the first shot had to have been fired during the few seconds when the car was passing the sign. Then, a few seconds later, there’s the second shot that appears to come at an angle instead of head on like the first one. These shots were separated by a matter of seconds. Surely, someone would have notice a shooter changing positions in order to take the second shot. What point am I trying to make you ask? Here it is: Looking back, I cannot accept the “history” surrounding President Kennedy. Specifically, what’s the real story behind the man, John F. Kennedy, and who was responsible for his murder and subsequent coverup? For far too long, these questions and more have been pushed aside by people in government. Yes, by people who were supposed to be working and representing “all the people.” Americans must start taking responsibility, and accountability, for the individuals we “entrust” with enormous power. If we don’t demand it now, when will we? I’ll give my answer to that question. If we don’t demand it now, we’ll be asking/begging for it when it’s, too, late.
What i find interesting from my own research from Australia is how Captain Will Fritz of the DPD Homicide Bureau only stayed on the Sixth Floor as long as he needed to, after the rifle was found, he went straight back to the police department building to oversee other aspects of the investigation and interact with other government agencies. Fritz, Day, Boone, Craig and Mooney all saw the rifle and all agreed it was a Mauser bolt action rifle but no one recorded the serial number of the rifle (before it morphed into an Italian rifle). Tom Alyea filmed Lt. Day with a magnifying glass scrutinising the side of the rifle when held up by Will Fritz. Cheers from Rockhampton, Queensland, Australia.
@@bribos99 Hi Brian, some supporter of the lone nut gunman circus tried to argue that MA seen stamped on the barrel may have been letters for MANNLICHER not MAUSER but my research shows that Mannlicher only relates to the type of gun clip and not the whole rifle. A GUN CLIP maker (German or Austrian) will not be stamped on an italian-made barrel. In a nutshell, a gun barrel is not a gun clip.
@@vickybennett2163 Thank you vicky, I intend to write something, what my intention is to focus on how the president was set up in a combined operation, and how he was attacked in Dealey Plaza and the people who as first hand witnesses told their initial stories before some of them were told or asked to change their stories. And to give the reader a feel for the citizens of Dallas and their excitement on that day. I have always thought Dallas was unfairly treated, yes there were some citizens who played a role. Appreciate your comment greatly young lady, I'm 57.
The most heartbreaking devastating part of it all is that men and women choose to kill another human being knowingly they set out to do it when they rose out of bed it's so foreign to me thank you I'm 73 and I live in California thank you my friend
I say Nixon and Hoover! It was a whole group! I can see more plainly how this can happen. They were the best of friends, celebrating birthdays together. Hoover and LBJ were great friends they lived next door to each other for 19 years in D.C. Why was Secret Service chased from the specially built stands on the back of the limo. You see it plainly when leaving Love Airport. How the same day, It was in the newspaper, they had it all figured out it. They said from the beginning the Soviet was involved! the FBI was so sure and announced the next day it was a "Lone Gunman"! Then they drilled into people's head, It was " a Magic Bullet" till they were blue in the face. Ford said we have to make it believable! Saying oh no Soviet Union involved??? How can they be so sure? Was it over the Bay of Pigs? Oswald was receiving a check from USA gov. FBI or CIA on a regular basis, there are letters Oswald wrote to request money to help in his return from Russia. FBI had been watching him, a Marine who wants to give up citizenship, claims to hate U.S. He was related to Robert E Lee. Was he a spy who tried to play both sides? He comes back so broke he goes on unemployment yet keeps 2 residences Ruth Paine's husband close with CIA with Bell Helicopter. He is able to travel and buys weapons?? The FBI watches him, yet he qualifies to get a civil servant job, with benefits. They give him a government job with the book depository. He didn't even have to look for this job himself! They set him up his place to live, work Ruth was even teaching him to drive.
@@shernitadee The DPD beat the FBI (by a day) in determining that it was a lone gun man. And as it turns out, they were correct. Your sorry rehash of some long-discredited conspiracy talking points is beneath comment.
@@apointofinterest8574 how could they possibly come up with that!! They never investigated anything further!! Kept secrets till today. Nixon hated Kennedy worse than Trump hated Obama. How can you say those things!?? A marine who travels to closed communist Russia
@@apointofinterest8574 So because the Dallas police dept saying it was a Lone Gunman ends any further investigations. Very crooked police dept anyway. Men in uniform in Ruby's nudie bar. I am really going to believe them, lol. They were the ones unable to protect him. I don't even think they tried!! They were at fault along with the SS knowing all along so many threats against his life! Crooked police to the core!
Oswald wasn't a sharpshooter. He missed the General and was much closer. Oswald scored marksman which is the lowest level of proficiency in the Marines. The gun found didn't belong to Oswald. So they changed the type of gun to what Oswald did have. And the beat goes on.
What I will never get is how so many politians knew of this assination and no one stopped it or reported it because we the Americans could have safed his life he should and all Presidents should be in a guarded car not a convertable.!!! He was the best and kindest!!!
I'm sorry, I'm sorry... but when a supposed expert says that he believes Oswald acted alone... after my having looked at this crime under a microscope for 54 years... there's simply no reason to listen further. CLICK.
Twice during this interview I noticed the two speakers lock eyes in silence before one of them answered. Everything will never be known if facts are held back
The truth is I don’t spend a lot of time leaving comments, especially multiple ones, But really these two guys are unbelievable... truly unbelievable. But I definitely believe the guy on the right when he replies to the statement “So to reassure the American public we deceive them and in the end it doesn’t work” ... he says “well that’s how it used to work, and to me it still does” ... never a truer word spoken, good on him.
I just can’t understand how anyone can believe that there was only one shooter when you can clearly see the exit wound at the right back top of his head. There is no logical way that a shot from up at the right could conceivably create an EXIT wound from the top back right! Not to mention the fact that all of the doctors in Dallas say the exit wound is in the top right back NOT THE FRONT as the autopsy in Bethesda shows.
Why? Only 1 shooter because the wounds in JFK and John Connally trace back in a straight line to Oswald on the 6th floor, and shots as you're suggesting coming from the grassy knoll, the front, the other side of the limo or from the bridge, COULDN'T possibly have created those wounds. The wound in the back of the head was an ENTRANCE wound. The bullet and bullet fragments were a ballistic match to Oswald's rifle.
@@user6008 'You don't have a darn clue, know nothing concerning ballistics and remain clueless. Which is good.' -your comment *damn No bud, and that's why I rely on the ballistics experts. The experts that examined all the bullets and fragments collected and tied them to Oswald's rifle.
You are absolutely correct Melissa, and more importantly, you can not come to that conclusion unless you have common sense. "When Injustice Becomes Law, Resistance Must Become Our Duty" Alleged quotationIf you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie.
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what is hate speech ???
@Katie Rae truth is hate speech
@@petperthecommenter3364Hate speech = Insultive verbiage coming from an uncivilized asshole who is unable to respect another person's point of view.
These Three Are Still Gonna Stick To The Oswald Is A World Class Sniper..& Ruby Was A Ligit Bussnissman. & There’s NO PROOF Oswald Attempted To Shoot ANYONE Else .. cause he didn’t. Fuckin liars 50 + years later.. & These Assholes Spewing THIER Bullsit.. ITS OFFENSIVE TO ME CAUSE ITS LIKE THEY THINK WERE ALL STUPID .. pisses me off HUGE
Yeah Don’t Anyone Call These Assholes The Three Lying CIA Scumbags. It’s not nice.. Also Don’t Say They Should Be Convicted Of Treason And Executed.. it’s not nice . So don’t say it.. ty..
You posed the question, "What has the government been hiding?" Hell, that's real simple. The TRUTH!
So the ones making the claim have the burden of proof. The ones saying Oswald acting alone have the burden. The Warren report is the first of a number of government responses. The HSCA and others all support each other (the HSCA had a last minute caveat that included acoustic evidence. But this was later debunked). So then conspiracy buffs (like I was for 30 years) are asked well then who did it? You then have the burden of proof. No CT has ever provided one document, fingerprint, name, confession (credible that is), pay-check etc. I know where you're coming from but all the suposed cover-ups and suspicions have plausible, simple explanations. Occam's Razor beheads the conspiracy movement
@@billkeon880 The doctors at Parkland Hospital who were the first to tend to JFK all said they saw a entry wound from the front & a bigger wound from the back, (indicating a exit wound. There's no conspiracy. Not to mention all the laws the feds broke that day in Dallas of which HAS BEEN PROVEN. And again, no conspiracy's there, either.
@@allancove4483 what you've got there is folklore. The hole in the upper back wasn't seen by the parkland doctors, though it was seen at the autopsy. Parkland doctors were busy trying to save his life. The four main doctors that were involved in life saving procedures on JFK (Perry, Carrico, Jenkins and Baxter - Carrico was the first) were first on the scene and now all agree that the wounds in JFK’s cranium were just as the autopsy doctors and the Warren report say. Even the anesthesiologist (who was sitting near the head) said the same thing. Carrico described the throat wound as a mildly ragged opening, not a neat, round hole of entry. That is more consistent of an exit wound. That was prior to the tracheotomy. There were some doctors who described a rear exit wound in the head like Crenshaw and McLelland, but these doctors were all junior residents or very young, inexperienced doctors. None of the doctors in the room were pathologists, let alone forensic pathologists (which is why autopsies are done). According to the 4 more senior (but still quite inexperienced) doctors working on JFK, no one did any investigation of the wounds since life saving was the priority. That also explains why none of them knew about the entry wound to the upper back. Jenkins and Carrico said that the way the bloody and shredded brain bits caked on JFK’s hair falling downward to the back of the head could give the impression that there was a rear wound. The whole story about ALL the doctors describing a rear exit wound is ridiculous for another reason - the body was lying supine (face up) and the rear of the head was in contact with the gurney - no one could see it. And they didn’t turn the body over to do an examination because after about 22 minutes of emotional, frantic life saving and pronouncing him deceased, they were not about to poke around with a post mortem exam with Jackie sitting just feet away. Can you imagine JFK lying on his back with a tracheotomy sticking out of his throat and doctors frantically performing constant CPR on him and then one of the doctors saying “stop this CPR, take the tracheotomy out because I want to check out the rear of his head to see if a wound is there”? And McClelland or none of the other doctors testified that they lifted Kennedy‘s head or turned him over to investigate further. They DID NOT see the back of his head, so their descriptions of an area in the back of the skull being blasted out is mistaken. That goes to show how good eye-witness reports are - they are not. The HSCA contained a total of 9 expert pathologists (some who were forensic pathologists) and ALL of them (including Cyril Wecht) concluded that the autopsy photos, x-rays, report and conclusions were correct and unaltered and not faked. They stated this categorically. The autopsy was good and they agreed with its conclusion UNANAMOUSLY - a single bullet went through both men shot from the rear, another shot from the rear hit the head and no shot came from the grassy knoll or anywhere else. The HSCA's Forensic Pathology Panel included Michael Baden, John I. Coe, Joseph H. Davis, George S. Loquvam, Charles S. Petty, Earl Rose, Werner Spitz, Cyril Wecht, and James T. Weston.
With the benefit of authenticated photographs, x-rays and notes from the Kennedy autopsy, a nine-doctor panel of expert pathologists reviewed and corroborated the Warren Commission's medical findings. Although the HSCA medical panel was critical of the thoroughness and methodology of the original autopsy, they unanimously concurred with the previous analysis of the late president's wounds: the cause of death being two, and only two bullet wounds, both of which entered from above and behind (the direction of Oswald in the Book Depository).
@@billkeon880 I'm not going to argue or debate this as its been beaten way to death by so many people that its beyond ridiculous. Based on the reading & research I've done over the years, the doctors said what they said. They saw what they saw. The feds broke more laws that day, than I care to count. And had they allowed for the doctors to of perform the autopsy which by LAW they had 100% LEGAL JURISDICTION to do at the time, it would've ended even before it had a chance to start, any & all conspiracy's or speculations to begin with. So by the feds/government breaking the laws like they did, all that did, was it made them look all the more guilty than what they already were. So that said, you can believe in the fairytale spun by the government & you can keep drinking the Kool Aid kid, & you can continue being wrong while I know that I'm right. And this will be the last I post on this issue with you. So move along kid, & keep buying into the governments bullshit. Bye kid, oh, & enjoy that Kool Aid.
It's more simple. Ultimately nothing.
The "new" info is simply a coverup of the coverup.
because it says what you don't like....
That’s what academics do, accumulating a multitude of superficial facts the implications of which they can’t see because there are no university classes on the (universal) principles that would be necessary to understand the history they think they are studying. They study higher subjects to be sure, History, Political Science, Literature, Philosophy, but still there is no Higher Education because “higher” is for them a prejudice belonging to the superstition Old World and they throw it out-though they secretly, like Carl Sagan, want to be thought of as wise men! They are incomplete. Thus they cannot see the forest for the trees which they organize endlessly without understand that the whole damn thing is on fire!
I know this because I spent my life among these superficial ninnies.
JWC
@@jayclark2077 LOL
Exactly.right!!
Exactly. they even look like FBI agents
You bet!
I'm 71 years old. It was the day after my 12th birthday. I had liked him since he took office. I read everything he wrote. I've read almost everything written about this. By the time I was 15, I knew the Warren Commission report wasn't right. I'd like to know what happened before I die. I've not trusted the government since 1963. The Vietnam War was the CIA'S WAR. I wondered how Oswald could have went to the Old Soviet Union and got a job. He married a Russian. She was allowed to leave with him. I believe the CIA and the FBI did the plot. If LBJ wasn't in on it, which I believe he was, he helped with the cover up.
I tried to give these guys creditability until they actually said they believe Oswald was the lone gun man. And then give Johnson's view point full level of truth in regards to John Kennedy's involvement in killing Castro when In fact the CIA went down that path without John Kennedy's approval.
Thank you for saving me from watching the whole video! We all know the CIA was involved with killing President Kennedy
Yeah I don't have time for lack of credibility
@@debbiedeets2947 No we don't all know that just you conspiracy nuts, show the proof that has merit.
@@leemoore9933 you probably still believe in the tooth fairy. Your parents withheld the proof of that, the CIA if involved must withhold proof if any exists. As such direct proof is scant. Proof still exists in non-direct ways, principally in human associations. Humans by our nature are incredibly adept at reconstructing these. While you conclude conspiracy nuts, the more correct conclusion is that conspiracy is very likely.
@@estban2065 Humans by nature have a very difficult time keeping secrets too.
I've seen countless interviews with credible medical experts, forensic experts, and experts in weaponry, attest to the fact that the fatal shot to the President came from a distance in front of the car. I am not an expert in any of these fields, and even though I am an educated man, it takes a minimum amount of common sense for me to come to the same conclusion. The Zapruder film clearly depicts a splatter of biological material from the back of President Kennedy's head hurling towards the rear of the car. Without an accurate crystal ball, I doubt that I'll ever be convinced one way, or another, of Oswald's part in the assassination, but I will never believe that there weren't at least two gunmen.
They never say anything about the CIA involvement they must work for the CIA.
He did mention the CIA
He did mention the CIA
Malone Donnie You're a fucking idiot!
Absolutely and that idea is one of the most credible
@@saparisrael2422 What was said about the CIA? I don't want to watch/listen to an hour and a half to find out. James Sutton's confession was enough for me. At least his confession makes complete sense---unlike the coverup stories.
During the Watergate examination of the WH tapes Erlichman was ask why Nixon always lowered his voice when the Kennedy assassination was mentioned. Erlichman replied; "He referred to the assassination as that Kennedy thing". Erlichman further stated; "It was as though he thought the people involved were still in power and a danger."
They still are…
I thought it was "the whole bay of pigs thing".
He also said he didn't want to pick that scab (meaning JFK.)
@@terrikay4622 @datikit01;
All of these attempted portrayals are full of conjecture, presumption, assumption, subjective, and distorted, purposely, intentionally.
Certainly, those that directed, dictated, controlled, ordered the killing public execution, murder, assassination of JFK are still in control They selected JFK, RMN, LBJ, HHH, DDE, HST, FDR, STA, GRF, JEC, EdM, RR, GHWB, DQ, WJ&HC, AlG, GWB, RCh, BHO, JRB, DJT, etc. They also executed MLK, RFK, Malcom-X, LHO, WmMcK,AbL, and numerous others.
The group are know by many names: "globalist/elite"/Committee of 300/Illuminati/BlackNobility/SocietyOfRome/SocietyOfCincinnati/ChapmanHouse/NWO/etc.-stem from Rome,through all, include all EuropeanRoyalty,
Kennedy family were among the Elite in Ireland before immigrating to the USA in early 20th Century - first generation selected/elected into political office =>thus among them, selected, chosen, JosSr. Ambassador to England during FDR.
The information about JFK, RFK, etc. will remain hidden, purposely, though the retained files, documents do not contain anything explicit, including the MI6 agents, and other executors. [See Dr. JohnColeman-ComitteeeOf300-fmrMI6&CIAoperative-published document(s)]
JFK was a mebver of the Elite, selected, degenerate and executed as an example, along with MLK, RFK, WmMcKin, AbrLinc., etc.
All The Best.
Sincerely
@@badmanskill1112 operation Zapata.... Zapata was George Bush's Oil company illegally slant drilling into cuban territory. Powerful men took out their impediment known as JFK. I always felt Watergate was Nixon's paranoia. E. Howard Hunt and Frank Stugis seeking information on Nixon's opponent if they had dirt on the Big Event. E Howard Hunt on his death bed confessed to being a benchwarmer to JFK assignation.
I have one problem with Kennedy Shooting.,. That most of the Doctors and Nurses at Parkland ..all said that there was a EXIT wound in back of Kennedy's head..They saw Kennedy before he was shipped back to DC.. Now you would think these Doctors/Nurses seen/get few GSW...?
100%agree with you!!!
they were silenced
No, they did not. Not one of them
@cobar5334they told them they were wrong
Nonsense
I wasn't born in 1963, but I have been fascinated with the events surrounding the assassination my entire life. I'm thrilled to be planning a visit to the museum next month and can't wait. My question related to this particular presentation is, that if the theory was that Oswald was the lone gunman, then why has the gov't kept documents hidden from the American public for so long?
Don't go. It just continues the cover-up.
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EXACTLY the RIGHT QUESTION!
Because the government is trapped in a big lie and arrogant nerds who did not play sports do not know how to raise their arm and say "My bad."
Check out the Who Killed JFK podcast . Oswald was a Patsy and the Texas School Book Depository literally had nothing to do with the assassination.
I was 13 years of age in the UK when this atrocity happened and was delivering newspapers all with headlines of the assassination on the front page, and I remember being embarrassed because I was crying so much, but then I noticed that other people of all ages where crying too, this is how it affected people all over the world, and even today when I watch the footage of him being shot down like a dog it still makes me cry, how can anyone do this! RFK and MLK both suffered the same fate, it's just unbelievable that these evil people where allowed to get away with this.
Yeah it's the one case where the conspiracy was so large and from the highest level that you will never be able to fathom. One thing I know is that just when you think you got it figured out a whole bunch of new suspects appear...
Allen Dulles. LBJ. George HW Bush and Hoover were main players in setting it up.
@cobar53 unless they missed something.
Non-assassin James Earl Ray had a 'getaway car' for the MLK version. In the front passenger door pocket was a note on a piece of paper. It included the address for Jack Ruby's Carousel Club even though Ruby was long dead by April 1968. The mafia part of the planning for both the JFK and MLK hits came from the same place.
Dealey Plaza contained Army documentary photographers (movie result seen by Dan Marvin in the Green Berets for his sniper training) brought in from Ft. Hood. When MLK was shot, across the parking lot on the roof of the fire station were more Army documentary photographers, making sure that the big boys who organized another assassination could see how their subordinates rendered the handiwork the second time around. At least Henry II had some kind or repentance for Thomas a Beckett.
Phil: Thanks for the poignant memory. I haven't, but most people have forgotten what a huge thing this was. The only thing comparable in scale to that mourning, is the joy and the fires that were lit all over the world when the news of the Declaration of Independence was taken around the world--and by ships! Everyone in the world saw immediately the Beauty and "self evident Truth" of it, and it lit fires in the minds of people on every continent and in every nation. Again, thanks for the really poignant and helpful memory. Oh, and remember that Trump promised, but then refused to open up all the JFK files! So the coverup goes on. Nor did he pardon Assange or Snowden, but he's a "Man of the People," right? Take care. JWC
LIES, LIES AND MORE LIES! Come on guys “one lone nut?”
asking a question...have you read the Warren Report, HSCA report or Bugliosi's book. Most conspiracy buffs like I was haven't read any of them.
@@billkeon880 Read JFK And The Unspeakable, Crossfire, or The Man Who Knew Too Much. Odds Oswald Acted Alone... Less Than Zero.
@@vernpascal1531 I’ve owned those books for years and read them. Bought Marrs back in the mid 1980s and read Crossfire about 4 or 5 times cover to cover. I believed a conspiracy from about 1985/6 and my thoughts were confirmed with Stone’s movie JFK which I saw in the theatre three times in the first month of release. I’ve watched it a dozen times on my expanded edition DVD. I also bought The Men Who Killed Kennedy documentary DVD and have watched it near ten times. I own and have read 25 conspiracy books including Mark Land (2 by him), Garrison, Waldron and Hartmann (2), Fiester, Hassan, North, McClennan, Baker, North, Russell etc etc. I also own about 40 or more books on the CIAs dirty tricks, black ops in other countries, Cointelpro etc. These things have been proven and many admitted. I believed and was neck deep in JFK conspiracy theories for 30 years until 2016. I always said, like the good scientist I am, that if better evidence were presented to show I’m wrong, I would change my mind. But in those thirty years, not once did I pick up a book by the opposing side. Partly because all I heard from the conspiracy community was insults about what the other side put forward as evidence even though I had no inside knowledge to verify that. I was also afraid it might puncture the balloon of conspiracy. I finally bought two anti-conspiracy books, and along with some background science the conspiracy story was blown out of the water. I could go into Jim Marrs and Stone and write a novel. But body of evidence on the conspiracy side comes from either ‘unknowns’ or eye-witness testimony and memory. 1: Conspiracy advocates first have to say to themselves, if the evidence shows no conspiracy, I will follow the evidence. That’s what science does. If you can’t say this to yourself then you are in a religion. I was in there. 2: conspiracy buffs have to honestly look at the evidence that’s come out in the last dozen years or so about how appallingly bad eye-witness testimony and memory is. Check out Elizabeth Loftus’ work on RUclips and research papers. She’s the leading researcher in this field in psychology. Please reply if you want more dialogue. I like discussion.
@@billkeon880 Take a good look at the holes in JFK's shirt and coat( Palamara's New Book Honest Answers). What is quickly apparent is there is no way a bullet entering 5 inches below on the collar goes out above the front Collar, and necktie.Also both Federal Agents at Autopsy, and both Autopsy Assistants said bullet did not go through the Pleura and exit out throat.
@@vernpascal1531 take a good look at the limo pictures in the parade that day. Just google Dallas Morning News photographs JFK. There are plenty of still photos and you will learn two crucial things. One (to answer the clothing question), JFK's coat and shirt were riding up his back. We've all done this. You get into a vehicle wearing a suit and as you sit, the suit slides up your back and pulls out of your waist. It's clearly seen in the pictures. If the clothes are higher when the bullet enters the body, the holes then appear to be lower when you take them off. Simple. When the clothes were examined, the fibles of the upper back hole were pointing inward toward the body, and the shirt and tie fibres were pointing out away from his neck indicating exit. The clothes are less relevant however, than the holes in the body. The second MAJOR thing you observe from the limo photos is that JFK was slid far to the right of the nack seat up against the edge of the car while Connelly was about 6-8 inches inboard on the jump-seat. That's a clear LIE Oliver Stone put in his movie. He would have known the truth by looking at the photos, so I can't give the benefit of doubt to one of my favourite filmakkers of all time. HE LIED on purpose. About the autopsy... it's nice that the others in the room including the FBI agents were board certified doctors or pathologists. Very talented people. Whatever they had to say is irrelevant. The subsequent HSCA contained a total of 9 expert pathologists (some who were forensic pathologists) and ALL of them (including Cyril Wecht) concluded that the autopsy photos, x-rays, report and conclusions were correct and unaltered and not faked. They stated this categorically. The autopsy was good and they agreed with its conclusion UNANAMOUSLY - a single bullet went through both men shot from the rear, another shot from the rear hit the head and no shot came from the grassy knoll or anywhere else. The HSCA's Forensic Pathology Panel included Michael Baden, John I. Coe, Joseph H. Davis, George S. Loquvam, Charles S. Petty, Earl Rose, Werner Spitz, Cyril Wecht, and James T. Weston.
With the benefit of authenticated photographs, x-rays and notes from the Kennedy autopsy, a nine-doctor panel of expert pathologists reviewed and corroborated the Warren Commission's medical findings. Although the HSCA medical panel was critical of the thoroughness and methodology of the original autopsy, they unanimously concurred with the previous analysis of the late president's wounds: the cause of death being two, and only two bullet wounds, both of which entered from above and behind (the direction of Oswald in the Book Depository).
It was Jackie who decided to take JFK to Bethesda while on Air Force One flying to Washington. There were a number of options open for the autopsy. If a conspiracy existed, they would have to plant conspiracy doctors in at least 3 possible military hospitals just in case Jackie decided on a different hospital, let alone the hundreds of other civilian hospitals that Jackie could have chosen instead - how likely is that? If you argue that ok, the autopsy doctors in Bethesda were not planted or coerced by conspirators, but there was pre-autopsy surgery on the plane or elsewhere before arriving at Bethesda you have to contend with two disqualifying facts: 1) there was no period of time the body was left alone with anyone other than Jackie or the closest and most loyal secret service staff of JFK’s detail until it was delivered to the autopsy site. 2) surgery on a dead body is very easy to be detected by autopsy doctors. Injury or surgery on a living person creates tell-tale clotting around the edges of tissue disturbance, while a dead person doesn’t leave this sign. Lifton’s case is thrown out on this one fact. Why did a few hospital personnel have differing accounts of the body or casket? - human fallibility and the well known fact in psychology of the poor quality of eye-witness accounts, especially years later when published suspicions of a conspiracy start percolating in the media. None of these ‘witnesses’ testified or revealed these ‘facts’ that contradicted the Warren report until years, even decades after its release. Besides, the ridiculous claim of pre-autopsy surgery came about because of ignorance of the facts surrounding the autopsy and conspiracists attempt to explain the supposed mystery.
Ask yourself ONE question... When has the US media or government ever told the truth about anything??
thats because the american mainstream media is the CIA media
Long long ago. Yet still biased.
Governments lie every day. Bureaucratic screwups play a much larger role than imagined but there are malicious actors too
I'm glad I read the comments before watching one minute.
As a researcher of the JFK murder. listening to these three gents, the three blind mice song comes to mind.
Are they not pathetic shills for establishment?.
Are you the 4th?
@@johnd7435 FUJD
Moe Larry and Curly had more sense than these guys.
Whenever there is a Presidential Commission; something is about to be covered up.
The Sixth Floor Museum has become the Establishment’s theory of the case with nice, soft lighting and other designer touches. Substantially it’s mostly caca.
I visited the place in 1993. I asked some tough questions , they told me to leave. One of my proudest moments.
@@larrywheeler9917 I’m intrigued.... what questions did you ask? I watched 6th Floor Museum video with Dr Cyril Wecht, well worth viewing.
@@larrywheeler9917 Yeah, knowing you, the "tough questions" you asked must have been those like: "Where's that storm drain out of which reptilian shape-shifters dispatched JFK with 'Remington' .222 fireball weaponry?"
:). The word “ex-plain” means to flatten out, ie., to explain away!
To me the idea that there are still all these forces put to work to conventionalize the official explanation of the murder of our president is what is truly astonishing and a blatant admission of guilt.
JWC
@@apointofinterest8574 you don't know him; but we know who you are.
Damn my Bull$hit meter is clanging like a fire station klaxon.
you're a fucking moron. You probably mean your diaper needs changing. Dipshit.
ted carriker As it should be🇺🇸
@@MrKmanthie
... I think you meant "No Name".. coward.
Can you please clarify. Thanks.
Mine broke under the weight of the horseshit presented here.
Say what you want to but I still feel Johnson had something to do with all of it. He hated Kennedy and what he told his mistress (Brown) the night before the incident pretty well confirms it all. He was ruthless, conniving and hungry for the Oval Office. He would refer to the President as "that SOB" and had no respect for him. Will we ever know what really happened and who was responsible? Probably not because so much has been redacted (crossed out) from all these documents. People are so fixated on this because they want the truth, that's all. If the truth was to finally come out, maybe that would be the end of it.
If he wanted power so bad why is he the only president to turn down a nomination think about what ur saying. You really think he wanted that Vietnam mess ? C'mon.
@@enlightenedwarrior7119 He wanted to stay out of prison! RFK was gonna put the SOB, along with Baker, Estes, and others behind bars...do you think LBJ and his backers were gonna go quietly?
@Ms Happy Apple; Motive and means, even combined with opportunity mean nothing, without evidence. There is no evidence that LBJ had anything to do with the JFK assassination.
Right On Ms. Apple, well said 🤜🤛
Brown lied a lot including the party the night before assassination.
Several times they say is “lack of evidence” which three factors play a vital role on this case!
1. Time.
2. All records haven’t been released.
3. What we do have is either erased, blotted out, and lastly conjectured thoughts.
Dont think there are records saved by the conspirators that would directly imply they were guilty unless they wanted to boast or defend themselves of what they did was for the benifit of the good of the country. Johnson, Hoover, Dulles and others that benifited from the assassination in one way or another. Not all got away with it. Johnson, Nixon and Reagan as well as Mayor Yorty, and Agent Kellerman, all died on days the Kennedy's were assassinated as they themselves must have, 22nd and the 5th.
You read too many CT books.
@@peterfraser9070 CT books mean Critical Thinking books...
Nowadays we know the truth...so your CIA coined phrase given to describe Mark Lane...is long gone..they are now Conspiracy Facts!
@@bradrook3919 What facts? Which ones - all of them?? @ Oswalds, 2 rifles found? This is what I'm talking about; you are so hazy about what your CT even is.
If someone says "back and to the left" is proof of s front shot, that's the most embarrassingly simple-minded thing ever. The Z Film shows 'forward' first, and 'up and forward' skull pieces above the head.
Citing a lower bullet hole in the jacket and shirt is cringeworthy; they were bunched up, so they actually PROVE a higher base of the neck entry.
You don't get to ignore these things and just blab about "assets" and "ops".
Nothing has changed theft that the 2 bullets that hit those men came from Oswald's rifle and the mountain of evidence puts him in that window firing the rifle.
You are making a common mistake: thinking an over-abundance of stories and believers proves something's true. Facts and evidence prove something is true - and you simply don't have it on your side.
@@peterfraser9070 your mountain of evidence is nothing more than lies that have long been found uncredible and debunked..
Victoria Adams asked David Belin to be included in the Warren Commission time trials as to Oswald escaping the sixth floor...he refused...she then told him to speak with Sandra Styles or Elsie Dorman as to when she left the fourth floor...but one can't have corroborating witnesses, so he again refused...this whole case is filled with the WC disallowing anybody who saw different other than their pre-determined theory..
Fact Oswald was in the 2nd floor lunchroom...
Fact: The investigation of Tippit the Sargent in charge found 38. Shell casings at the scene...this is in Chief Curry's book..
Fact: Oswald never ordered a Carcano from Klines Sporting Goods..no Bank endorsements of all 4 bank institutions needed to deposit it into the first national bank of Chicago...
No one disputes shots from the rear...but the Fact that the M/C cop which was behind and to the left of Jack was splattered with Brain matter..
Jackie retrieved part of his brain from back and to the left on the trunk..
Researchers have all Facts...your probably a Vincent Bugliosi fan...keep in mind he's an attorney that's trying to win over a case...he's Not interested in the truth...he's a lawyer that sells books with over 1600 pages in it...James DiEugenio destroys all in his book with Documents
Leavelle said it best..if this case goes to trial...we just don't have enough evidence to convict...
I heard that there were people that believe Oswald was a lone killer but I can’t believe believe they would be intelligent men like these. This is so harmful to our government. This is so sad given the books by learned men that have uncovered so much more than these men are continuing.
Much of the contribution of the conspiracy crowd distorts or even lies about the facts.
unbelievable is it not? These guys must be funded by the CIA
I saw Oliver Stone's JFK at 8 yrs old and was traumatized. I believed there was a mass conspiracy and it bothered me. It seemed to me that the "Oswald did it all by himself" theory was the great minority. I decided to research and read books that argue that case because I genuinely wanted to know the truth even if it went against what I always believed. I read and seen every conspiracy theory in documentaries. I wanted to consider the possibility that he did do it alone. After reading "Reclaiming History" by Vincent Bugliosi and "Case Closed" by Gerald Posner I came to the conclusion that Oswald did it alone. All the other conspiracys were just that, failed plots that were not connected with Lee Harvey Oswald's lone plot.
You put your faith in Oliver Stone and Hollywood.....among others...and this is why YOU can never be trusted with the truth..
Just the facts alone, that jfk was clearly shot by shooters from the front and not by Oswald who was behind him.. his skull blew out on to the back of the limo. The gaping wound in back clearly indicated that was the EXIT of the bullet
Such a joke... Save your brain cells... You'd be better off going out in the street and ask a seven-year-old what happened to John F Kennedy! Lol
yep I REALLY do not understand the POINT of this interview....The rest were at least witnesses or around.....I really don't care what these guys have to say and didn't listen beyond a few minutes.....
Thanks for the heads up. Moved on to better things.
Look up the video conspiracy lies it will clear things up. And if you never looked our the window and saw how easy of a shot it was you really can't understand how easy it was
@@enlightenedwarrior7119 the ease of the shot is not the point. That window was not used by any of the shooters. Mac Wallace was on the sixth floor. Opposite end of the building. Shots were fired from the Dal Tech building. And of course the grassy knoll area. The roof of the County Records Building was a probable sniper spot.
@@stevemaher7481 : The enlightened warrior speaks but doesn't account for the fact that a number of shots missed the intended target and hit the pavement, curb, and elsewhere. What about that? Perhaps he is himself a skillful sniper. But if he is, then it is unlikely that he would brag about how easy it is. My guess, however, is that he is just part of the ongoing commitment to keeping the Lone Gunman fantasy before the public mind. Really skillful marksmen are more modest than this fellow--all full of a blustering self confidence. Further more real warriors are not like this. And in any case, for the real warriors, the Martial Artists, the shooter "does not aim at the target, but at himself." But this is another completely different world than the one inhabited by those jackbooted thugs that are so proud of their kills in countries that have neither the capacity nor the intention to harm us! They didn't tell you in school that when we invaded Vietnam it was still operating on a barter system trading rice, etc., for silver, or needed trade goods: rakes, plows, wheelbarrows, etc. And they were a threat to us? Jesus!
On this read Fletcher Prowdy's book "JFK," a very enlightening book. Prowdy by the way was the "Deep Throat" in Garrison's book on the assassination. He was there in 1963, and on the docks in Okinawa at the end of World War II! Read the book. It is a rare work. JWC
so if the truth hit these fools in the foot, they say it is too late to do anything about it. Sad men that laugh at the travesty of this event....
MSM panel. I might as well be watching CNN to some kind of truth. They're peddeling BS books.
Edward Pike Exactly!🇺🇸Same Difference🇺🇸
5 million pages, that's a tad much for a lone nut killer no?
Yeah I'd say so. It's really sad to see the Establishment media try and swallow greased bowling ball after greased bowling ball.
Not to mention the simple fact that if it was a simple "lone nut" then what could possibly be the risk to national security by releasing the files?
try not to make children if you are this stupid....
7. @@captaingenius-o1c
I agree
This really boils down to two reasons to me that can not be disputed, 1) Oswald was a known Marxist that defected to Russia, marries a Russian woman, had pretty much made his political views known through interviews and handing out Cuban pro Castro propaganda, gets a job at the Texas School Book Depository and nobody, I mean "nobody" is aware that this guy is there till after the fact? So the Warren Report with all it's fancy dictation and dialog never places any blame on the agencies responsible for keeping tabs on this guy and no one ever says anything about this. 2) The missile that struck Kennedy in the head is not the same type that produced the injuries to Kennedy and Connaly. Now you can say all you want that Kennedy's throat wound was a pass through wound that didn't hit anything solid but that argument can't stand up against Connaly's wounds. The bullet that hit Kennedy in the head was obviously a fragmenting (hollow point) bullet that done a lot of damage. More so than the other wounds that were discovered. Now I don't know and can't prove who fired those guns but there were two different guns used in the assassination. So even if the ballistics evidence isn't enough along with the eyewitness testimony from the doctors at Parkland Memorial that day the fact that Oswald slipped through the cracks on the day the President came to Dallas is just too huge for me to let go of. Think about what happened just 5 years later when they cut down Bobby. You would have thought the security detail would be at the top of their game by then at least. No there's too much smoke for me to believe that this isn't a sparkler this is a full blown forest fire.
The bullet and fragments were matched ballistically to Oswald's rifle on the 6th floor. The 'missile' that stuck Kennedy could ONLY have come from the Depository building, due to the position of the limo on Elm St., and the position of JFK's body and head in the car, both parallel to the limo, body slouched slightly forward, head tilted downwards. The head wound could not have been caused by a bullet from the knoll or the bridge, or anywhere other than the 6th floor.
Four and a half years later in May 1968, while campaigning in San Francisco for the California primary, Robert Kennedy can be seen standing in a open convertible, being held by campaign aides from falling out, while he is shaking hands with well-wishers and supporters. I'm sure his security detail cautioned him that he was at potential risk, but that's the way it was back in that time.
@@jamesanthony5681 We will agree to disagree. That's what they told you. I just don't believe them and there were people within our government and within the mafia that had reasons they wanted Kennedy gone. No way I will ever believe the Warren report that had too many of these same people assembled on the Commission.
SO GREAT WAS THIS MAN THAT THE WHOLE WORLD WAS TOUCHED BY HIS PASSING. 😢😢
It's amazing how meticulously this group of clowns try so hard to not give you absolutely nothing ! Don't waste your time on this .
sending you to a black hole in mexico
I was in a nuclear unit in Germany at the time of the assassination. Our unit was placed on alert one hour before the assassination.
I've never heard that before. Are you sure with the International Time Change? The one reason that I've thought about a lot lately, that is among the top 5, or 6, why JFK was killed I think is a NATO Connection.
Joseph, u have provided the best clue ever!
Its now straight forward solved case.
Let the public revisit the log of calls an hour before the assassination.
Who placed the marines in Germany on alert?
From where was the cable sent?
How many units or battalions world over were placed on high alert?
Who was responsible for assigning secret service protection to JFK?
Was it the 56th Field Artillery unit?
Yes I have head that before, along with the news paper accounts in the South Pacific that came out before the event
@@jeandixson5610 That' s what Fletcher Prouty aka Mr. X told.
He was on a mission to the south pole and on his way back he has read the whole story in a local New Zealand paper.
Don' t forget the time difference USA-New Zealand.
What concerns me is this: I'm an avid shooter and what many people would call a master marksman, That having been said I can't shoot 3 rounds at a moving target in the time frame that happened in Dallas. So that fact alone means that further investigation is needed and that someone is lying. Then we look at a few reports and eye witness statement saying a 7.65 mauser was found in the book depository and we know that this weapon is more accurate but is still not capable of firing 3-5 bullets in the amount of time given with the conditions on the 6th floor. So what is possible is for two shooters to fire two rifles accurately from the 6th floor and place shots accurately onto the street. The issue is this, with two shooters on the 6th floor the best opportunity would have been shortly after the presidential limo turned off of Main onto Houston street why wait until the Limo turned onto Elm? Then there's the issue of the damage to the Presidents head and the blood splatter onto the motorcycle policeman behind and to the left. There was also a piece of his head retrieved by Jackie from the rear deck of the limo. This would indicate that a bullet travelled in from the front and then blew the back of his skull out. If the bullet had come from the back as theorized then it would have damaged the presidents face and sent debis forward. Then there's Jack Ruby/Jack Rubenstein of Chicago/Jacob Leon Rubenstein which no one seems to want to take seriously. Jack was drafted into the military and served in the Army Air Force as an Aircraft Mechanic in WWII. For this to have happened Jack would have had to been extremely talented or connected. I think history shows that he was both. We know from public record that Nixon referred to Jack as a Johnson Man in 1947 and that he was an informant. If this is true it would explain why he was openly involved in so many different types of underworld activities. When you take a look at military activities in WWII you will note the America was not opposed to using organized crime to achieve its goals. I think it's a mistake to discount Jack Ruby because of what he was able to achieve in Dallas. It's important to remember he was a war veteran with very few resources in 1946 and that he was easily able to impersonate a newspaper reporter at several occasions during this entire ordeal. With Jack it's difficult to pinpoint a fire but the smoke is most definitely there.
John @JJKPerformance njwammqqk
Bull low knee
Read Bugliosi's book or listen to him interviewed about it on RUclips.
Dude. JFK was shot in 5 directions by the best hit ‘‘em in the world. JFK’s limo was flown to Detroit the next day and shredded, the zapuder film to Kodak in Rochester Ny and doctored over the weekend. Either your gross nerd or woefully inept on researching JFK valid information.
Politically connected mobster. A Johnson man.
Never bothered to address how the laws of physics were suspended for about 45 seconds when a bullet entering the rear of a head causes the head to go backward and the brain material to go toward the direction of the shooter. I was 16 when I saw the film. Had not taken high school physics yet but had some fundamental science classes and understood Newtonian laws. The single shooter from the book building does not match the films. Sorry boys. What a gigantic waste of time. I like the question RFK asked the CIA director, “ did you kill my brother?”. Now that deserves more time.
When do the citizens stand up and say 'enough. Were tired of being stolen from and lied to?
Exactly...these warren commission apologists have ruled the day long enough...i dont know how they can even sleep at night
I could care less. The Kennedy's had enemies back to Old Joe's bootlegging. It's a shame, of course, but done and done...
no kidding - Hold the line Patriots. These bitches in the CIA need to go to directly to jail, do not pass Go, do not collect $200.
"He was absolutely heading for the border".......Firstly jumps on a bus home, gets out and gets a taxi home. Walks to the theater where he is arrested....how is that heading for the border?
Lucas Timouri I tend to agree with that thinking. Plus, LHO would have had a passport and hundreds of dollars. And, you don't "sneak in to" the theatre without paying.
Lucas Timouri nothing makes sense. He was probably ordered by his "handler" to meet at the movie theatre. Why he sneaked in????? And, if headed for the border, he would have had two or three passports on him and a lot of cash.
Lucas Timouri How come L H O did not have a car?
Lucas Timouri and, to get to the border requires money of which he had very little. And, had he taken that taxi ride, as intended, he would have had even less. Then, what is he to do in Mexico "peso-less?" Someone planning an escape has a lot of $$$$ on their person along with two or three passports.
Howard Crowe LHO was learning to drive and did not yet drive.
Absolutely pointless video. Documents are still locked away to this day, 55+ years after the assassination. The Secret Service actually destroyed documents rather than hand them over to the ARRB, what does that tell you? They Warren Commission didnt even look at the autopsy photos and X Rays even though there was conflict in the testimony between the Parkland doctors and the pathologists. They didnt even interview Bethesda staff (apart from the pathologists) because they had all been slapped with gagging orders under threat of court martial. Even at the HSCA hearings the Parkland doctors were not permitted to see the autopsy photos. To this day, the public has not seen the full set of autopsy photos.
Its nothing more than a fraud. What are they hiding?
Geoffrey Johnstone you are right. It was no accident that nearly all of the autopsy team at Bethesda was military. They follow orders.
México City serves as the perfect example of the use of disinformation and withholding key evidence. There was film footage from the Soviet embassy in Mexico City. Where is that? And, some say there is a photo of LHO at Mexico City. Where is that photo? Some say they have seen that photo.
When Oswald was picked up by Dallas Police it was on the assertion that he killed Officer Tippit. And why would he kill Tippit? The assertion was that Oswald killed Kennedy. Pretty pat and very false.
To fire a rifle the pressure in the cartridge is huge and gases of gunpowder residue cloud around the receiver which does not contain these gases.
No gunpowder residue was found on the swabs while Oswald was in custody.
So if Oswald did not fire a rifle. Then did he kill Kennedy? No. He did not.
And if he did not kill Kennedy why would he kill Tippit? There is no motive other than the false assertion that he killed Kennedy.
So Oswald killing Tippit and Kennedy is missing an important item: what was his motive? None. Proof is he killed no one as witnesses say he was in the lunchroom at the time of the shots that killed Kennedy?
So why kill Oswald with a Mafia connected hit? Oswald has a trail of involvement as CIA as well as FBI informant. He knew too much. He tried to call someone from Dallas Police and the operators would not put the call through.
The killing of Oswald is more: it was the silencing of Oswald. In an extreme sense killing a witness. People who knew too much in the aftermath of the Kennedy hit were killed. Many of them.
No witness saw Oswald in lunch room at actual time of assassination. He was seen there before and after by different people but not at time if assassination. How did so many keep a secret/conspiracy for so long with mo leaks.?. Easily, because there was no conspiracy. Sometimes, shit just happens. There isn't always dark forces working in the shadows for every tragic event
Since there has been the creation of the “ Freedom of Information Act” we are now able to see how the CIA classifies different murders that they are involved in.. and I know that there are government shills that are going to say, the CIA only gathers Intelligence... that’s what their charter says they do - and everyone knows that they (CIA) only follow their own guidelines... You are now able to see what criteria is followed by the CIA when they are involved in murders....There are three(3) classifications that are followed:::: The murder is first classified as Open or Secret....In the Kennedy Case, it would’ve been classified as Open...no hiding or denying what was trying to be accomplished... Secret would be putting poison in a drink or food or putting chemicals into your cologne bottle to induce a heart attack....where an autopsy wouldn’t necessarily point to murder.... Next up it would be classified as GUARDED or SIMPLE... That is pertaining to whether the target has security protection or not... So the assassination would be classified as guarded...and lastly and probably the MOST important... It is classified as SAFE or LOST.... and in the Kennedy assassination is where it gets tricky because it is classified as Guarded-Open-Lost... and GUARDED-OPEN-SAFE... Lee Oswald was not supposed to be alive to be arrested... And Jack Ruby was not the one that was supposed to kill him... Jack’s name was never supposed to be known to anyone in America in reference to this murder
LHO was the lone gunman all the eveidence proves this, he killed Tippet because he thought Tippet would have frisked him and found the pistol, the man just killed the President killing a cop was nothing to him at that point, he tried killing another in the theatre. Stick with the facts they will set you free. Their were witness to this and a witness seem him toss his jacket under a care before heading into the movie house. How much damm guilt do you need. Oh he was a patsy, patsy my ass!
Jeff Epstein was killed by Jack Ruby
And possibly dorothy killgallen who was investigating and questioned Jack ruby.
That museum perpetuates the myth of Oswald as a lone assassin…
Don't squander time with museum.
That building was owned by someone sketchy too. I think he was an oilman. Without JFK around LBJ brought us into Vietnam. JFK was going to get everyone (meaning the advisor spooks that were there because we had no troops there at that time. Wars run on oil. Follow the 💰 money.
Total government BS.
and even if Oswald was a lone gunman (which he wasnt) that still does not mean there wasnt a conspiracy behind JFKs murder.......i think the CIA's refusal after 60 yrs to release their full files can be interpreted as an admission of guilt
I heard this gentleman talking and it steal don’t make sense why not allow the Odense ask questions?
The problem with Mexico City is that there is not one single photo of him there. All of the photos that the FBI had of him at both the Cuban embassy and the Russian embassy are of someone else who was older and had a different body type. But what is really strange about this, this person had Oswald's I.D. and he did apply for a Visa. Hoover advised LBJ that they could not even prove that Oswald was ever in Mexico City.
Not true
Show me a photo of Oswald. It doesn't exist. Even Hoover admitted that of the 20 photos they had of "Oswald" at the Soviet and Cuban Embassies not one of them was Oswald. But that is not the worst part. The Fake Oswald was using a fake Oswald I.D. to APPLY FOR A VISA! That is how deep the CIA Cover-up and frame of Oswald went.@@TELEVISIONARCHIVES
Wrong...
@@D1TemplarKnight And yet you cannot provide the photo, but why would that surprise me? Even Hoover could not provide one in the 20 photos taken that was Oswald. So in reality what we have is a fake Oswald who applied for a Visa using Oswald's I.D. (That is not the first time Oswald's I.D. has been used fraudulently.)
Great point. CIA was checking his mail but no security footage of him at the American Embassy in Mexico City; no flight logs, etc. No evidence Oswald went to Mexico City.
Therein lies the problem: you have this Silvia lady who reportedly told someone that she saw LHO at a dance party at Mexico City. NOTE the distinction: she didn't say it, but it was attributed to her. Same with the Warren Commission: there were "reports of interviews" NOT transcripts of interviews. BIG difference.
also was being tracked by CIA and KGB....from books I have read.
Whether she saw Oswald or not that is peanuts compared to the evidence we have on many domestic suspects..some at the very high level..
Exactly. Transcripts or it didn’t happen.
@@StephenZ827 If the books you have read were "tracked," we'd find they're all properly classified, as fiction.
@@apointofinterest8574 Books I have read and heard the author say...the Secret Service did it by accident. There is likely 100 different versions of how and by whom. Don't get your ass in a twist over it. According to one book, the photo of a man in Mexico, was in fact ( according to the author ) was the KGB guy tracking LHO. The photo taken by a CIA agent or likely one of the shooters ( to be ) He was tracking LHO, to have a photo of him in or near Russian Embassy, which would later be leaked to FBI, or what would become Warren Commission. Was the KGB following LHO to determine if he were a double agent. Why would they need to follow him, did they know of a plot to kill JFK and LHO was part of the opt. ????
LIARS.
Sabato is terrible. He makes me sick. Excuse me I have to throw up.
“Perhaps that smoking gun may yet exist; God knows there are enough dogged assassination researchers out there to find it if it does. But, so far, the documents seem to confirm the wisest twin conclusions about the J.F.K. assassination: Oswald was guilty, and acted alone; and, at the same time, the intelligence services-the F.B.I., the C.I.A., and the rest-were up to their armpits in bad acts that they were trying to keep concealed. These conclusions, as I wrote on the fiftieth anniversary of the assassination, point to two more: that the Warren Commission is almost certainly the only plausible account of what happened on that day in Dallas, and that the underlife of the government was more sinister, or at least more complicit in guilty knowledge, than the image makers of the time, and the Kennedys, wanted to accept or to publicize.”
-Adam Gopnik The New Yorker
@@jackgriffin4893 There's ZERO CHANCE OSWALD ACTED ALONE! TOO RIDICULOUS FOR WORDS..SO DOZENS AND DOZENS OF WITNESSES ARE WRONG AND COINCIDENCES ALL GO ONE WAY?
They just go on and on putting a button on everything until you end up going, "Everything they do is for our good and Oswald did it. I said it. I feel better now." They sound like moonlighting G-men propagandists to me.
My family didn't tell me everything. There is a level of social pleasure and peace, unspoken rules, a need to know and not disturbing any relations. My experience is based in something from the 60s as well. Even these people in the video could suffer from those issues and all we got was "something social and acceptable" since then.
Aka cover up.
@@terrikay4622: The language is ironic, eh? The "coverup" leaves the wound un-covered, open, so that it can only fester and never heal. The wound is hidden instead of healed. This is the fallacy of Ford's pardon of Nixon. Justice is supposed to operate as the cultural surgeon and healer--but obviously it hasn't "operated" as it is supposed to for a very long time. What Ford did was unforgivable--thought the media got in line to declare it in the nation's interest and "courageous" into the bargain! Jesus!
Of course Electron's comment is not wrong but just pointing out one of the psychological mechanisms that keeps us asleep or helps to keep us pacified. People say they "want to get on with life," but the wounded bleeding man cannot do that; he can't even walk, and may die of it (as our Republic has been slowly dying since the assassination and is now perhaps already dead from a thousand similar cuts), and certainly cannot "get on with life!" JWC
I've heard Sylvia Duran interviewed about her encounter with Oswald in the Cuban embassy in Mexico City, and I believe her when she says she never had an affair with Oswald, and never attended a Party with Oswald. Sylvia Duran said Oswald was became emotionally unstable and angry when she told Oswald she could not get him into Cuba, and Oswald was at the brink of Tears over the issue.
Since dude believes Oswald was the lone gunman, how does explain the frontal head shot? The laws of physics do not allow this to occur!
You don't believe that a bullet can enter and exit from behind?
@@bluesky6985 i believe that bullets can enter, & exit from the rear, tho not @ the same time! Executions are carried out like that all the time! But I don't think JFK was assassinated by Oswald or shot from behind like they've been telling us for the past 59yrs. There's not a person on the planet who could pull off the shots they claim Oswald did!
#1 criteria for a conspiracy to survive== it has to be believable! Same concept for 'president' biden- his election was bogus, faked, stolen, cheated, whatever other words you want to use!
@@raystanley4329 The trajectory was perfect for the storm drain shooter though. That's where the head shot came from
In (OUR)grovenment the laws of physics do not apply.
@@raystanley4329 after he Biden was proclaimed. WINNER I KNEW U S A WAS HISTORY!!!
So how did dirt poor Oswald afford to get to the USSR and than back with a wife and kid? How did dirt poor Oswald afford to get to Mexico City and back?
He got paid to work. He worked staging his profile of the lone commie nut connected to Castro. He was moved around like a chess piece. Then killed.
Read Pricilla Johnson and also Norman Mailer’s books on Oswald. Very in-depth on virtually every day of his life from 1959 until his death. There you will find your answers, including the USSR piece. Travelling to these places was not hard or expensive, especially Mexico City. He took a bus that cost him peanuts
Mob, connection , just like Jack Ruby , killed him , to shut- him up , so he wouldn't implicate , Carlos Maecello , head of the Texas Mafia.
R.R workers nuff said.
@@sticks0012 Sam Holland was standing on the triple overpass and said he saw smoke and thought the shots and smoke came from the grassy knoll. But he was not sure the smoke came from the gun when he gave his testimony. He also testified that a secret service agent inside the car jumped up with a machine gun when JFK got hit in the head. So not extremely reliable account. Author EJ Epstein also asserts three other triple overpass witnesses also report smoke coming from the grassy knoll, insinuating rifle fire. However, this author was selective in his description - one of them; James Simmons actually thought the shots came from the TSBD and the ‘smoke’ was exhaust fumes. Clem Johnson reported the smoke as coming from a motorcycle and Austin Miller thought it was steam. In 1963 there was a steam pipe on the knoll embankment. Also, modern 20th century rifles rarely, if ever, give off smoke, let alone enough to hover over the area. The assassin didn’t use a musket. Besides on the morning of Nov 22 and during the parade, there was a moderate headwind of 5-20 MPH blowing north to south that the limo was driving into head-on. A puff of smoke wouldn’t hover. This headwind also explains why some of the motorcycle cops got some blood on them trailing the limo, though frame 313 of the Z film shows a forward explosion of blood strong enough to go forward into the headwind. The best Lee Bowers could do was say there was a commotion of some sort, but he could not be more explicit. There was a commotion. JFK was shot.
I don't for a moment believe much if anything these guys are saying, albeit they do admit there was a cover-up; I don't believe their conclusions in any way shape or form. I've read Mister Beauregard's comment and feel that he's made several good points. Dr. Cyril H. Wecht's report about the autopsy is spot on; namely that it was coup d'etat. He has impeccable credentials and astute reasoning skills.
Totally agree. These guys are fake, phony bastards because they know the real facts and still spread nonsense narratives.
I believe Dr. Wecht. His comments about who was chosen to perform this historic autopsy are priceless. And why didn't the autopsy doctors dissect the bullets' tracks? This is standard procedure.
David Atlee Phillips admitted in later years that Oswald never was in Mexico City. That tale was merely part of framing up Oswald. The "Oswald" seen on the bus and going to Cuban/Russian embassies was a recruited imposter. The Oswald photographed at the embassy turns out to be Ralph Gebb, a football friend of Mac Wallace's from high school as disclosed in the Free Form Friday show of 11-25-2022 from America's Untold Stories.
Evalea Glanges, George Whitaker, and others got a clear view of the hole in the windshield The shot came from the front, from the southern grassy knoll where Tosh Plumlee heard it fire off, and smelled the gunsmoke. That bullet was supposed to hit JFK in the face but went low into his throat after passing through the windshield. Whitaker, as a Ford employee, knew the windshield was destroyed at the Ford Rouge plant and a phony replacement was made for the museum, with only a crack in place-sc of the hole. Another intact copy of the windshield was made to restore the limo when it was remanufactured.
Embalmer Tom Robinson (Gawler Funeral Home in Washington DC) knew the throat shot was from the front because glass blasted back from the windshield micro-scarred JFK's face. That's why embalming fluid leaked out the front side, from JFK's face.
I heard one member of the panel say he believes Oswald operated alone. I can’t believe this suit is an educated person. Here are the facts: 1. What about the magic bullet crap. 2. The bolt on the rifle couldn’t have worked fast enough to fire the shots. 3. The rifle was notoriously inaccurate. 4. We know from military records that Oswald was not much of a marksman.
I have a friend who works as a manager of people. She says, “ If it looks like a duck, if it quacks like a duck, if it walks like a duck....”
EXACTLY
You're wrong on all these accounts. Very very wrong. I do know about the rifle and LHO shooting ability, I served in the Marine Corps in the 70's for 4 yrs so I can speak as an expert to this anyway, LHO was a sharpshooter thats the badge he qualified in bootcamp thats a pretty decent badge by USMC standards, we had to shoot at 200, 300 and 500 yards in bootcamp from various shooting positions, so a Marine with a scoped rifle with his skills could have easily pulled off an 87 yard (3) shots with 2 hits in 8 seconds, besides the facts all prove this. Oh the badge order USMC lowest to highest~~Marksman, Sharpshooter (LHO) and the highest Expert. Any Marine by an 87 yard shot would IMO be an excellent shoot.
The 'magic' bullet would have to have gone SEVEN different ways to cause all the damage it did, impossible.
@@johnclegg4993 Everything lined up in a straight line the bullet wasn't magic.Try other sources other then the movie JFK it was fiction made in Hollywood.
RFK said about LBJ. “Why did you kill my brother”. Not that these knuckleheads would repeat that
Source? Bet you don't have one
Bill Hicks said it best: "the 6th floor museum's sniper nest display is authentic and accurate...Oswald is not there."
And anyone who can see-knows JFK was shot from the front in the head! This neuromuscular horseshit is only for elite lackeys who want desperately to believe Oswald somehow...someway could have acted alone.
Witnesses to Tippit's murder said the killer was short, thickset (kinda chunky) with bushy black hair who threw the murder weapon, an automatic to a (tall thin) man. Oswald wasn't thickset (kinda chunky) and did not have bushy black hair and wasn't tall.
@Mangili Ngarlu: You're recirculating one of the numerous lies of Mark Lane. Shame be upon you.
And he had a revolver with a crooked firing pin that wouldn't fire when he tried to shoot it in the Texas Theater.
After 54 years this is their Magnum Opus. Every school library needs a copy of these documents. Between 10,000 Leagues Under the Sea and Huckleberry Finn in the fiction section where it belongs.
I know. It's business as usual.
How could Jacqueline not be in shock after her husband's brains were shot out. Anyone would be in some state of shock. She may have seemed in control but she probably was not and was in shock.
If the six floor museum raised proper questions , I would respect them more. The truth is Lee is their man and Documents are still withheld.
Trump withheld the documents. The coverup continues . National security excuses abound plus protection of long deceased individuals.
The 6th floor museum doesn't 'raise questions'. They don't take a side. They have pro conspiracy authors on, and those who don't believe in a conspiracy on.
Also, what do you think is in those few remaining documents?? You really think it's evidence of a conspiracy? If there was a conspiracy, why the heck would they leave around documents revealing it that they knew would eventually get released? They would have just destroyed them!
Well at least I got to 55 minutes before my acceptable level of spin hit its max. Can you believe these guys? Checks in the mail boys. Checks in the mail.
No Chance Oswald Acted Alone. The proof is in the statements and testimony of the Medical Personnel at Both Hospitals. especially, the suppressed HSCA and ARRB Interviews,. The Conclusions never matched the evidence period!
I watched almost all of it. Lol
Thought there might be something of value in this interview...but when these guys spoke about the "Oswald Mex. City trip" (which didn't happen, known because of the Sylvia Odio testimony (to Oswald's having been in Texas during the time in question)...and of that of the Cuban consulate personnel, Sylvia Duran and Sr. Azcue, who insisted the individual they'd spoken to in Mexico City was NOT Lee Oswald)) and about how the FBI had "let Oswald slip through their fingers," I quickly realized that this presentation is pretty close to PURE BALONEY!!!! Yikes, now they're claiming that Lee was guilty of spousal abuse!!!...and a violent guy. JUNK propaganda!!!!!
I find this conversation to be extremely distasteful...and a waste of time!!! Better to clip one's toenails, take out the garbage and watch old Lucy episodes than to watch this mean-spirited and unreliable offal.
They had to look a long time to find 2 people that were so ill informed.
Bill Benton I agree. Too much background and puff
Yeah pretty sure Hoover and LBJ also said the Mexico trip never happened, and Mark Lane has some Fed on tape acknowledging the same thing. Total hogwash. Moving on.
Angleton said Oswald was not in Mexico City.
J May how does he know? Only proof can come from the embassy officials and a little late for that
They really need to open a Museum on the 2nd floor showing Lee getting his change for the coke machine as the shots were fired.
As I am watching this on 10/19/22, I have lived through the government lies about JFK, 9/11, and the Covid virus. I would not have served in the Army in 1970 had I known then what I know today.
Draft
Their assumption is that nothing in the hidden files would justify keeping them secret for 54 years. What if their assumption is incorrect? Imagine that what's in the files could seriously harm our national interest, 54 afterwards!
The files would likely reveal government corruption, and if you want to protect a corrupt institution that is your government in its state of corruption then yeah you would want to protect these files, but if you're interested in having transparency and accountability for whatever may have occurred than it's a no-brainer that we would want to be able to look into this information.
@cobar53the CIA will make anything that points to t heir involvement disappear in those files - one would have to be a fool to think otherwise
@SixtehGloorMuseum: This is another presentation of some additional information these two men have gathered along with a few tidbits found thus far [at the time of this presentation] from some of the released records.
These two men, basically have a similar view, perspective and perception which accepts the conclusion that Lee Harvey Oswald was the Assassination of JFK acting alone.
Mostly they mention their character evidence about LH Oswald, which confirms their conclusions then additionally mention some basic character about Jack Ruby which indicates he was as claimed, just a distraught citizen, about the death of JFK and concerned for Jacqueline's mental welfare to go through a trial, thus "reliving" the horrible, horrific event.
However, they actually misrepresent or ignore other known information about LH Oswald who was known to have been working for the CIA, defected to the USSR as CIA Agent/Spy, then returned after nearly three years, recently placed in Dallas with the job at the Book Depository. The presented information about LH Oswald's activities and connections with people in Mexico, adds to the story regarding his possible next assignment and involvements. Also, their information about those LH Oswald had connection with in Mexico lead to three possible conclusions which appear to be mutually exclusive and contradictory, except for someone who has further work as CIA Agent to investigate all three types of persons there.
They also completely ignore the obvious forensics information, especially that of the credulous Dr. Cyril H. Wecht, regarding the certainty of at least two bullets which hit JFK are certainly from two different directions; one certainly from the rear, entering the upper back near the neck, apparently exited through the front of the neck in the throat, one certainly entering the skull from the front [right], forehead [the obviously most deadly]. The second bullet entering the forehead from the right front, is obvious from the backward reaction of the head of JFK, and the blood spurt exit from the forehead just post the bullet's entrance [seen in the frame]. The additional information about the bullet [or two] which injured Senator Connolly, which cannot be connected via forensic data and analysis is another important point.
Thus, the premise of the a single assassin shooting and killing JFK is certainly not viable. Any information about JH Oswald and Jack Ruby mentioned here, if true and accurate, does not support the idea of a single assassin, nor verify JH Oswald as an assassin either. At most it is circumstantial, character information which is not logical or legal proof nor sufficient to convict anyone according to law.
Was hoping to hear about some possible important information seen in the released files, but actually, We would not expect anything significant, and likely just more of what these men are mentioning and presenting. Any meaningful information which could be useful, would have certainly been destroyed long ago or any possible small portions of information or details which could lead or clarify any possible multiple gunman or conspiracy will remain hidden, since it would have additional affect upon the public's mistrust of Government, further undermine the character, view, perspective, perception of the agencies involved and more so to possibly uncover the actual controlling Cabal/Elite which exist and operate Worldwide. Though, these men and others state those involved would be long gone and not meaningful, that too contains a false premise. Actually the statements and reality of those who still write, analyze, discuss, present views, perspectives, perceptions, conclusions about the assassination of Abraham Lincoln, is a testament to the continuing affects, now 155 years later, as will the assassination and killing of JFK, MLK, RFK. Are there many questions about the assassination of President McKinley too?
If interested, listen to RFK Jr. speak about specific, details he knows regarding the death of his uncle and father.
Sincerely
The premise of a single assassin shooting and killing JFK is *CERTAINLY* viable.
A bullet entering the forehead from the right front is *NOT* possible. And I'm surprised that you fell for that. You conspiracy folks keep mentioning physics and momentum and 'back and to the left', while completely ignoring mathematics, specifically geometry, and the angle and trajectory of an incoming bullet in relation to the President's head AND the wound that he suffered. Mathematics is more important. It's NOT possible that there was a 2nd shooter, i.e., from the knoll, bridge, sewer, or whatever.
Examine the Z film closely. Read up on the head wound. Come to your own conclusions.
The right shoulder wound bullet fell out on an exam table when X-ray technician Jerrol Custer was moving JFK's body around for X-rays. It has nothing to do with the neck wound. Details below. Jim Jenkins was at the same Bethesda autopsy and helped Dr. Boswell remove JFK's lungs and heart. They sat the corpse up on another exam table and found the bullet had only penetrated about an inch and a half, not even penetrating the pleural membrane around JFK's right lung. See the Jim Jenkins interview in Valuetainment for example. Again, the bullet into the shoulder had nothing to do with JFK's throat or neck area.
Here is how the shots fell:
(1) Zapruder frame 155-- a signal shot with pyrotechnic color sparks was fired into the pavement (left rear of limo) to signal all shooting teams the assassination was a go. Notice how the front left tire is abnormally thick on the yellow car-- poor retouching of this frame. JFK heard the shot and glanced left, then put his head back forward without worry. This head turn is censored out of the Zapruder film.
(2) Z206-- JFK is shot in the shoulder, behind the sign, and exclaims (heard by SS Agent Kellerman) "My God! I am hit!" so we know his vocal chords were still intact as in he was not shot in the throat yet. The purpose of this shallow underpowered shot (prepared by Chauncey Holt at the CIA specialty arms shop in Goleta, Calif., near the airport) was to get JFK to flinch up and hold his head high, above the windshield. The same is done by Saudi sword executioners-- they prod their victims in the shoulder with a sword tip to get them to arch up and extend their necks. In Saudi Arabia, it's to make it easier to do a neck chop. For JFK, it was to get him to raise his head high for the next shot. We know from Jim Jenkins's eyewitness reports that the bullet came down at an angle from the high rear. Assassin angle #1.
(3) Z222-- JFK is shot in the throat by mistake, from the front left (details to follow). Count the frames, times 0.055 seconds per frame, from Z216 to Z222. The two shots were 0.088 seconds apart. The fastest the Mannlicher-Carcano bolt can be cycled is two seconds, plus aiming time. It is physically impossible for one person to make both shots, not to mention that the Z206 shot was from behind and the Z222 shot was from the rear which proves two shooters already. Look at Willis photo #5 and you will see the traffic sign that covers JFK between Z206 and Z222 didn't cover JFK in the real world = the genuine Willis #5 photo. You can see Zapruder's lens line of sight went UNDER the sign, i.e. Zapruder's camera saw JFK and his car go under the sign. Also, from Zapruder's pedestal, the traffic sign could only cover about a third of JFK's limo at one time. But in the faked Zapruder frames you can see 99% of the limo covered top to bottom and left to right. This was to conceal the close timing of the two shots and hide their origins. The throat shot first went through the limo windshield a little to the driver's left of the rearview mirror. Backtrack the angle from the throat back out the windshield hole and you see the shot came from the southern grassy knoll, where Tosh Plumlee was close enough to hear the shot made and he even smelled the gun smoke. Obviously the shot was not intended to go through the windshield but it dropped low. Probably due to silencer problems (stretched lumen from prior firing with 7.62x39 ammo which is cheap and of variable diameter, whereas higher quality 7.62x51 ammo would be more likely used for a professional hit). A stretched silencer bore or lumen would mean a quality .308 = 7.62x51 shot would be artificially and unexpectedly underpowered due to lost blowby gases. The shooter was a professional and right on target for centering his shot, but it must have been a mechanical problem that dropped the shot low from JFK's head into his throat. We know from Evalea Glanges and George Whitaker (Ford employee) that the hole was there, conically from front to back. Windshield expert Whitaker knows the original was destroyed to hide evidence, and two replacements were made. One windshield to repair the limo, and the second windshield as a fake for the museum, with a phony crack inserted in place of the destroyed-evidence hole-- to hide the fact this shot was from the front. Notice a shot from the southern grassy knoll at Z222 lines JFK's head up with the book depository. This shot was likely intended to be the final headblaster finishing shot. The autopsy fakers at Bethesda could then enlarge the entrance to make it look like an exit wound (with the true exit lined up with the book depository as if that had been the origin), and then that would have met the conspiracy's needs. But fate intervened. Further, notice that in Willis photo #5 we see Umbrella Man was really standing on the Zapruder side of the sign (in back of the sign's rear) and about 10 feet away from it. In the faking done for the Zapruder forgery, Umbrella Man is supposedly standing alongside the sign and on the other (frontside = street side) of the sign. Once Umbrella Man could see JFK's head was not blasted to hamburger yet, he jerked his sign up and down to signal downhill for more shots. Notice also that in Zapruder frame Z220 the upper right corner of the sign is cut a little blunt from botched cutting and pasting of the grotesquely enlarged sign. In the other frames the upper right of the sign has a more carefully cut rounded corner. Notice in Zapruder that the jerking of the umbrella has been censored out. JFK is still alert and sitting upright with raised hands and arms, in pain until Z250 when he was rendered unconscious. Jackie had by this time seen his left elbow fly up (she couldn't see his right arm) and was tending to him to try to figure out what his problem was. Between Z222-Z255 (1.8 seconds) he had a quizzical look on his face and could only make gurgling noises. Jackie heard zero shots the entire time due to motorcycle noise at her immediate left rear. Parts 4-7 follow in another posting.
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(4) Z250-- JFK was hit from the rear with a horizontal shot (not steep high rear as in the Z206 shoulder shot. We now have three shooters) an inch to the right of the external occipital protuberance and up a quarter inch. This is known from Dr. David Mantik's examination of photos from the Harper Fragment of JFK's skull. We know from Dr. Boswell's notes that this bullet ended up between JFK's vomer bone (rear of the nose) and his right eye orbit. This instantly obliterated JFK's consciousness, and you can see his hands then arms start to drop away in subsequent frames. See Costella Combined Edit for example. He is hemmed in by the car and by Jackie, but despite those constraints you can see he is developing what neurologists call decorticate posturing-- due to the serious brain damage. Extravasated blood is starting to pool inside the right half of his skull.
(5) Z290-- JFK is shot through the right forehead above the right eye at the hairline. His thick shock of hair kept this entry wound from being seen at Parkland, but was seen by mortician Tom Robinson and also by photo expert analyst Quentin Schwinn as a 7-8mm diameter wound. If you look at a high resolution copy of the Mary Moorman photo, you can see the exit hole from this wound. It is about 2x2 inches, shaped like a stubby crescent, and high at the back peak of JFK's head. Comparison of camera angles and the positions of motorcycle cops and JFK's head and lens positions reveals that the Mary Moorman photo was taken at Z316. This exit wound hole is dark due to the noon sun angle but not totally black due to ambient light, and at its edge you can see (in high quality Mary Moorman photo copies) the thin jagged line of white that is the edge of JFK's cracked skull bone material, as blasted open by the exiting of the bullet. By the time of Z290 JFK's head is drooped down due to the unconsciousness of his collapsing from the Z250 shot. Backtrack the angle from the exit to the entrance to where the bullet came from, and you can see this shot came from the curb as an upward shot. There is nothing there but a storm drain hole. Obviously this shot had to have come from the storm drain hole which explains why the storm drain hole is airbrushed out of the Nix film version of the JFK shooting sequence. Read up on Jack Lawrence and you will see why he is Suspect #1 for making this shot. Lawrence also was a pal of George Senator, Jack Ruby's apartment roommate. Consult the Roberdeau maps of Dealey Plaza to see why this shot had to have been made at Z290, give or take a frame or two. Sergio Arcacha Smith was one of the two team drivers who tried to kill Ramblin Rose Cheramie on their way from Florida to Dallas to kill JFK. When Smith's apartment was searched, he had engineering blueprints for the storm sewer drainage system of Dealey Plaza. Dr. David Mantik has an X-ray showing how the Z290 bullet tracked from front to back and left particles along the way inside JFK's head. Particles that look like mercury globules that would have been leftovers from being packed into a hollow tip dum-dum bullet. We now clearly have four assassins, considering the physical evidence of the wound angles and sniper angles. More wounding also means more blood leaking out of JFK's blasted brain tissue into the excavated bullet tracks.
(6) Z313-- This was the headblaster shot made right in front of witness Bill Newman. It was a larger caliber explosive bullet, likely loaded with mercury fulminate. It created an exit flap out the right side of JFK's head, hinged at the bottom like a small breadbox door. Newman saw that the blasted hole was hollowed out and big enough to place a baseball inside JFK's head. At that point he grabbed his wife and kids and dove for the ground. He didn't wait for the springiness of the connective tissue to shut the flap. Jackie has still seen no blood at this point because everything has stayed in JFK's body so far, or been blasted out the rear or the right side where she cannot see. Jackie is still puzzled by her husband's strange motions. The entrance for this wound was the right rear occipitoparietal region, and will soon be obliterated by the next bullet. Now massive amounts of loose blood are pouring into the hollowed out right side of JFK's head, as if from a garden hose, for the next 1.65 seconds. Owing to the rear angle of attack, we can't tell if this hit is from another sniper or is a second hit from a previous sniper. The sniper count remains at four, minimum.
(7) Z342 to Z343-- JFK receives another explosive headblaster from the front right, nominally from the grassy knoll fence. This means the evidence demonstrates, from the sniping angles and wounds, a minimum of five snipers. You can see a chunk out of JFK's head (backed up by Jackie's white glove to highlight it) at the right rear exit. Mortician Tom Robinson and Parkland Dr. Robert McClelland put the entrance as a 5mm hole in the middle of the flap that formed in front of Bill Newman's eyes at Z313. It was at JFK's hairline halfway between his right ear and right eye. The exit was right occipitoparietal skull, forming about a 4x4 inch exit that blasted away the entrance from the Z313 shot. Robert Schorlemer was one of the first medical personnel to tend to JFK at the Parkland Emergency Room and he said that by this stage of wounding JFK's right skull was blasted almost entirely loose and held on by nothing more than a flap-hinge to the rear. Note that Jackie is not screaming as late as Z342 but gets vocal by Z343. She has just seen huge masses of JFK's brain and blood spraying like an explosive fountain all over the trunk (where they are falsely censored from the Zapruder film) and this is when she starts to stand up, then turn around to retrieve pieces of his brain from the trunk. As Clint Hill and Dr. Marion Jenkins (anesthesiologist) said, she was trying to fetch pieces of his brains so the doctors could hopefully put him together again. In the Nix film, Jackie crawls back almost to the rear of the trunk. In the Zapruder dummied up version she only travels about halfway back. There is more fakery involved in the films and the faked testimonies involving the Warren Commission, but this write-up has to end some time. There were more than a dozen other bullets, mostly from rifles equipped with silencers. Which is why most witnesses heard only 3 shots, give or take. ---END---
Firefly: Fine essay. An academic who will look no further than the conventionalities of "received wisdom" is, whether intentionally or inadvertently, just a gatekeeper for official narratives. Something said by Nietzsche is relevant here: "Scientists dig up what they themselves have buried." Ossified presuppositions are not presuppositions at all but fixed parameters and are created and used by men who are neither free nor want to be--and they certainly can't help their neighbors to be free. There used to be something called "intellectual courage," but these guys are just flaccid passive and contented sheep. My basic feeling about them is contempt! Jay Warren Clark
@@jayclark2077 A. Clearly You don't know what is an "essay", thus mislabel my comments for Your personal distorted views, ideas, etc.
B. Your comment seems to be among the are within philosophy, using such views, perspectives, thinking, suppositions, and such.
C. Your view about these specific individuals, is clearly with some negativity, disdain, etc. and clearly from their presentation, bias, numerous lacking within, without, and clearly involved in the common inDOCtrination and Propaganda.
C. However, to claim some ideas from Neitzsche, a philosopher, involved in psychology, which is at most as "Study" [-'logy'] with his claims about "Scientists" is a poor basis, obvious biased, baseless nonsense, since Nietzshce never studied science, used, followed the philosophy of Science, Scientific Method-Methodology" with any aspect of his philosophical, psychology, efforts 'work' during his lifetime => Thus, invalid with any claims about reason, logic and science.
D. Yes, clearly this topic about the deaths, killing, murder, assassination of JFK is one a many which remains intentionally, purposely distorted, hidden [still] as with his brother RFK, MLK, Malcom-X, Robert McKinley, Abraham Lincoln, numerous others with the USA alone and far more abroad Worldwide, still.
Sincerely
The only thing Oswald had to do with the assassination of JFK was to be strung along made feel important long enough to be labeled then shot . It must be said that you have to hand it to the people handling Oswald . That he only realised he was set up after the shooting probably just before coming across offic0r Tippit who was coming to kill Oswald .
Meh... the shots coming from the depository is plausible. The wounds are plausible. Oswald trying to assassinate a 2nd public figure after Gen. Walker is plausible. Is it possible some mystery person took the shot from the window, yes. But it's also totally possible Oswald did as well.
You make a startlingly obvious point that I've not heard here my friend.
Away from the hubbub of Dealy Plaza...out in the wilds of Oak Cliff...on an ordinary day Tippitt and LHO have very little chance
of even crossing paths let alone having a shootout in the middle of the street.
With upwards of 30% still clinging to the Warren Commission Fantasy we must continue to pile up
the evidence before we can make our case.
"It may be too late for justice but its never too late for the truth."
@@bribos99 The truth in this whole affair may never be revealed in an open and honest way , The power structure that orcastrated the assassination also controlled the media in a way that the news wasn't impartial it was bias and the tone with narrative sold the lone gun LHO never stood a chance within an hour every law man was looking for LHO his name was in NZ NEWS papers the following day . I know the truth . it sux but at least I'm not blind I have a mind and it works to my program not some hopeful gov that can't even lie they would have to prove it was LHO they never could they never would that's enough for me
@@DoBraveryFPS Possible is a universe away from plausible. Oswald didn't kill anybody.
@@williamwhitten7820 Yes, Oswald never shot anybody. He was ***The Falling Guy***
Before I die, I would like to tell the story of my learning about the assassination of JFK. My father was stationed at Elmendorf, AFB, Anchorage, AK. from 1960 to 1964. It was a very interesting time for the military, stationed so close to the Soviet border. There was the Bay of Pigs fiasco and the Cuban Missile crisis, both of which occurred before the assassination. The military was very conservative and didn't much like Kennedy's foreign policy, which they thought made the United States look weak. I personally don't remember the Bay of Pigs incident, but I remember vividly the Cuban Missile Crisis. During the crisis, all the military personnel would gather in the parking lot of the on-base housing, with their families, after hours, and discuss the ongoing crisis. It's the first and only time I ever saw any fear in my father's face. After all, in case of a nuclear exchange, we would be the first to die.
I attended the 3rd grade at Government Hill Elementary School (which was later destroyed in the Great Alaskan Earthquake of 1964). Mostly the school was populated by children of military families. As was the custom of the school, the first order of business in the morning was school announcements over the PA in every classroom. During school announcements, the doors of every classroom were to be left open to the hallway.
On the morning of November 22, 1963, when it was time for morning announcements, the principal of the school came over the PA. Normally, school announcements were given by 6th graders, a reward for the senior students of the school. So, when the principal began speaking, I knew this was different. I still remember his exact words. "I regret to inform you that the President of the United Staes, John Fitzgerald Kennedy, was assassinated in Dallas, TX today." I remember immediately being stunned by the news. What stunned me more was the cacophony of applause and cheering echoing down the halls of the school from all the military children in the school. That always bothered me.
I stayed up all weekend with my father watching the weekend's events. I saw Oswald murdered on live TV. We watched the procession from the White House to the Capitol Rotunda, and, of course, the funeral. Having lived through this event, I've had a life-long interest in the JFK assassination. My main thought is the Warren Commission Report is the greatest work of political fiction ever published.
Edit: Opinion: This "tiny" sliver of the American population who are communists now populate academia, media, politics, judiciary and corporations.
@7700, That is a weird response from the kids.
@@MrMrfreedom1 Yes, they mimic what they hear at home. Most of their parents did not like JFK.
Just to put a different perspective on this...I was an 8 year old military brat. My father was stationed at the Pentagon. We had a portrait of Kennedy in our living room. When the news came over that he had been shot, I cried and prayed until the death was announced. It was one of the saddest days in my life. Judging from my experience and the different footage of him interacting with the public, I would say he was much more loved than hated by the American public. Most the hate came from the deep state such as leadership in the SS, CIA, and FBI and also the mob. I've read alot of SS agents did not like the way he disrespected Jackie with all his womanizing and that makes sense to me. There were also alot of generals who thought they knew better than this young college kid who they considered too weak. But the public loved him probably more than any president in history.
Well said sir. It is all a lie and a reflection of the fact that the cover up continues. Bending history is a crime
@@alwayslernin4400 College kid ? John F Kennedy ? Captain of WW2 PT boat ?
Weak ? Where in God's name did you come up with that BS ? Read the story of PT 109 & get a glimpse of why JFK was loved by so many. The Secret Service agents spend 12 to 14 hours some days for months without a break. I would say overworked & many the night / morning before went out drinking. When your hung over as many of these agents were. They are not on their best guard. In fact its a reason why the agent that kept the Limos in good shape was holding the sniper position in the follow up car that day. Not familiar with that role he took that fateful day.
You can talk about the assassination, you can talk about people in some way involved in the assassination investigation and then there is the Warren Commission . . .
the reason i think there was a conspiracy was at Parkland when the secret service did not allow the autopsy to be conducted there, and took the body from parkland without proper release. Why did they not allow an autopsy to be conducted then, by doctors who were experienced and would have treated the body with respect and not carved up the back of the head like they did on the plane on the way to bethesda.
Because it was a cover up…..
And you think the Secret Service acted against the wishes of Jackie and RFK when they moved the body out of Parkland? Jackie specified the Bethesda Naval Hospital as the site of the autopsy because her husband served in the Navy in WWII.
I used to think that also but then I think if that was my husband I might have wanted him out of Texas asap feeling like I was in enemy territory. That's not true but I could understand her feeling that way if in fact it was left up to Jackie . I also think I would have left it up to the people responsible for that kind of stuff. There is so much more evidence of government involvement that to me it is clear what happened. Any doubt should be dismissed by the fact that the government has been keeping these files from the american people ever since.
@@jamesanthony5681 Jackie insisted on Bethesda after the body had left Parkland. The Secret Service wanted the autopsy done at Walter Reed Army Hospital. Because of her insistence on Bethesda and on staying with the bronze casket, they had to improvise, which led to the body being removed from the bronze casket and brought to Bethesda in a shipping casket and in a body bag, when the body had been wrapped in sheets at Parkland. This gave them time to alter the body before the official autopsy began.
think you answered your own question, they needed to do the carving before it got to bethesda
I could not take any more BS from these 3 government conspiracy theorists after 21 minutes.
I lasted for 40 minutes, hoping it would get better.
These men believe Oswald did it wtf ? with all the information that has been available over the years . incredible.
The moderator tried, perhaps too timidly, to break through the armor of the two academics, but was not successful. I think his heart/mind was in the right place but wasn't the warrior that was needed in this situation. As A. K. Coomaraswamy put it, "one cannot seek the truth and expect to stay out of a fight." Some things are Either/Or and there's no other way but to stand your ground. But then that's a warrior's business, eh? JWC
Can somebody explain how three shots can make four holes in the presidential car one interesting. was an entry in the windshield
If it was possible to dislike this video 20 times, I would.
The museum are Warren commission lackies.
We will never know for sure about the death of JFK.
I've been studying this case for 54 years, was hoping to learn something new, just the same old hashing and rehashing of old speculation with no new information from the two gentleman on stage. In my opinion a waste of time .
At the 32:08 mark, the gentleman in the middle said that the “conspiracy theories” would make a lot of sense... He said it would’ve made a lot of sense for the Mafia to want to see Kennedy dead.... In the very next sentence, he said it would make a lot of sense for Cuba to want to see JFK dead... I wonder how he came up with that conclusion because I saw a video of Fidel - when asked if his government had anything to do with it -he said that, “it would’ve been absolute insanity for us to be involved in his murder...it would’ve given the United States an excuse to invade my country.” I wonder are these guys really just government shills - there to perpetuate the lies... (after he said that - did he also say it would’ve made sense for LBJ to murder Kennedy...because that’s also true...if he didn’t, it’s proof of purpose there...just a government shill)
So did Oswald have the power to tell the military detachment from San Antonio who normally would have been supplementing the security in Dallas to stand down and that they were not needed? Did Oswald have the power to minimize the number of Secret Service people on the motorcade route who normally would have made sure no open windows on that route?Did Oswald have the power to make sure the presidents car made a ridiculously sharp turn that would bring that car to a near dead stop right in front of the Texas School book depository? Did Oswald have the power to make all phone service in Washington go off for an hour minutes after the assassination in Dallas? Did Oswald have the power to get a president to go to Dallas when he did not want to go? Did Oswald have the power to change a german mauser rifle originally IDed by Dallas Police into the italian rife he alleged to use?Why would Oswald order a gun thru the mail making it traceable to him when Dallas had no lack of gunshops he could have bought a rifle from that wouldnt be traceable to him?And did Oswald have the power to appoint a commission that would ignore all contrary evidence and never interview key witnesses to support a crazy lone gunman theory?
No
This is BS. Zuburter film contricts this BS
Pictures say a 1000 words. He was hit from the front. Maybe 2 people up on that grassy knoll I've been there and a brick wall is about 2 ft high all around the area .It's very long ..At one end there is area that goes down a hill into a parking lot. I'm not watching this b s anymore. Go look
There just making money
1963 was the year that I stopped trusting the grown ups for various reasons..
Kennedy's death among the reasons
The church bombing in Birmingham.
I'm 64 now..long before the internet, it was clear to me that egos trumped ethics in D.C. decades ago
Trust yourself.
I knew as a child something wasn't right. Out of the mouths of babes ...
Larry Sabato makes me puke, he might be on CIA payroll.
Yeah but his crystal ball sure predicted the 2016 presidential election and that Crooked Hillary is now president.
Right on. This video is about to sell his book about Kennedy Legacy, but before he only said Oswald was the killer the rest is all conspiracy to sell his former own books Watch ruclips.net/video/yQldCMrxQpU/видео.html . After Trump released more docs in 2017 there is a file saying that in the 60´s there were 40 journalists on payroll by CIA to produce fake news, I believe this goes on up to this day because some are uploading videos of high quality to convince the public of a lone assassin.
These guys are the new 3 stooges. Who told the secret service to hold back and let kennidy to get shot???
A number of witnesses claim that after the second shot the Magic Bullet stopped in mid-air after it hit Kennedy and winked at them and said hello, then it went on through Connally
The single shooter just does not fly . For many reasons
Most of the evidence was lost in the first hour after the assassination. Videos taken at the time show cars driving on Elm Street ten minutes later. I realize that they didn't have the forensic understanding that we have today, but they should have known better than to perform as badly as they did. If I were running a conspiracy that included the Dallas Police, I would have had them secure the crime scene and collect bogus evidence so that history would show that I didn't ignore what should have been done.
For starters, they should have parked two police cars across Elm Street at the corner by Houston Street and prevent any vehicles from driving on Elm Street. They should have cleared people out of the plaza after taking names and checking identification. They should have searched every inch of the grassy knoll, Elm Street, the sidewalks, the tunnels under the triple underpass, the grassy areas south of Elm Street, the faces of the triple underpass, the trees, the signs, and the traffic signals. A policeman discovered the blood on James Tague's face. He should have ensured that triple underpass areas were secured and searched for traces of a bullet. If a bullet hit the curb directly, that bullet would have fragmented and sent pieces of bullet all over the face and into the tunnels. Those fragments could have been recovered. People have talked of sparks or something on the ground behind the limousine as if a missed shot hit the road there, but no one ever did a thorough search of the street to find the exact spot where a bullet hit.
I don't know who is guilty and whether a conspiracy was involved. Maybe Oswald acted alone, but the forensic investigation was poorly handled.
What I'm saying is that I believe in incompetence much more than I believe in conspiracy.
This tells you that at leadt a portion of the Dallas P.D were in on the execution. They led the lamb to the slaughter. The Dallas Cop that was guarding the door let Ruby into the garage.
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VTPSTTU Then you are dumbed-down exactly as the CIA & the corrupt government want you to be! 🇺🇸WAKE-UP AMERICA🇺🇸
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"Never attribute to deviousness that which can be explained by incompetence."
I would suggest to the directors of the museum to try to get an interview with a Mr Cornelius Edward "Neil" Gallagher ex congressman of New Jersey. I was disappointed somewhat in this interview as it primarily is only telling the public the same story, ongoing for more than 50 years. Please make the effort and contact Neil Gallagher and listen to him.
agreed, buzz. i'm not familiar with gallagher. but i was disappointed, too, that the two speakers are turning a blind eye to the evidence, or suspicious lack thereof. who controlled the "evidence" in this matter?
cyril wecht was a guest speaker at the 6th floor at about this same time (nov 2017), and you can find his video in their video selection. "a case for conspiracy with dr. cyril h. wecht." he paints an entirely different picture.
Rep Cornelius Gallagher-A Friend of JFK, RFK and Enemy of Hoover. For your review ruclips.net/video/SShXDJKG4BA/видео.html
The museum has always been about furthering the "lone nut" stuff. Remember how they turned Gary Mack? It's not the truth, it's the agenda.
Dr. Cyril Wecht is a sharp guy.
thanks, buzz. i will have to watch that video later. hopefully tomorrow. and i'll report back when i do.
its clear that the status quo was threatened by jfk and rfk. well, that's my belief. and, what i shame. maybe they could have cleaned up the federal government. it continues to fester.
Your welcome, after watching Neil Gallagher, it may very well leave you as it did me, gutted.
Sixth floor is the offical coverup for the truth.
Il y a une trop grande quantité de choses étranges, illogiques, dans cette affaire pour que la thèse de l'assassin solitaire soit vraiment crédible. Idem pour l'assassinat de Robert Kennedy en 1968 ...
President John F. Kennedy (in his own words).
As an adult looking back over the years, I can’t help but come away with an eerie sense of incongruity between the man I hear speaking (President Kennedy) versus the way he is often portrayed in the Mainstream Media.
In his speeches, Kennedy comes across as a man of great courage, conviction and intellect. A person who doesn’t seem to have a problem with truth telling. Yet, in the Mainstream Media, they tend characterize him as a man who has problems with indiscretion.
I recently re-watched the Zapruder film, and I noticed a different type of incongruity. Look at the film again for yourself. Notice how the film doesn’t actually show the first shot. You know, the shot in the neck. That’s because there was a rather large sign obstructing Zapruder’s field of vision. As the film continues and Kennedy’s limo passes the sign, then you notice right away that the President has already has raised his hands to his neck. Therefore, the first shot had to have been fired during the few seconds when the car was passing the sign. Then, a few seconds later, there’s the second shot that appears to come at an angle instead of head on like the first one.
These shots were separated by a matter of seconds. Surely, someone would have notice a shooter changing positions in order to take the second shot. What point am I trying to make you ask? Here it is: Looking back, I cannot accept the “history” surrounding President Kennedy. Specifically, what’s the real story behind the man, John F. Kennedy, and who was responsible for his murder and subsequent coverup?
For far too long, these questions and more have been pushed aside by people in government. Yes, by people who were supposed to be working and representing “all the people.” Americans must start taking responsibility, and accountability, for the individuals we “entrust” with enormous power. If we don’t demand it now, when will we? I’ll give my answer to that question. If we don’t demand it now, we’ll be asking/begging for it when it’s, too, late.
"When Injustice Becomes Law, Resistance Must Become Our Duty "
What i find interesting from my own research from Australia is how Captain Will Fritz of the DPD Homicide Bureau only stayed on the Sixth Floor as long as he needed to, after the rifle was found, he went straight back to the police department building to oversee other aspects of the investigation and interact with other government agencies.
Fritz, Day, Boone, Craig and Mooney all saw the rifle and all agreed it was a Mauser bolt action rifle but no one recorded the serial number of the rifle (before it morphed into an Italian rifle).
Tom Alyea filmed Lt. Day with a magnifying glass scrutinising the side of the rifle when held up by Will Fritz.
Cheers from Rockhampton, Queensland, Australia.
Keep asking the questions Aaron!!! ✌
@@bribos99 Hi Brian, some supporter of the lone nut gunman circus tried to argue that MA seen stamped on the barrel may have been letters for MANNLICHER not MAUSER but my research shows that Mannlicher only relates to the type of gun clip and not the whole rifle. A GUN CLIP maker (German or Austrian) will not be stamped on an italian-made barrel.
In a nutshell, a gun barrel is not a gun clip.
I like your style write a book and I'll read it interested thank you
@@vickybennett2163 Thank you vicky, I intend to write something, what my intention is to focus on how the president was set up in a combined operation, and how he was attacked in Dealey Plaza and the people who as first hand witnesses told their initial stories before some of them were told or asked to change their stories. And to give the reader a feel for the citizens of Dallas and their excitement on that day.
I have always thought Dallas was unfairly treated, yes there were some citizens who played a role.
Appreciate your comment greatly young lady, I'm 57.
The most heartbreaking devastating part of it all is that men and women choose to kill another human being knowingly they set out to do it when they rose out of bed it's so foreign to me thank you I'm 73 and I live in California thank you my friend
Perpetuating the myth again it was LBJ and Hoover that did it
@Old Geezer Gaming: Still recirculating the tired old myth that LBJ and Hoover "did it"?
I say Nixon and Hoover! It was a whole group! I can see more plainly how this can happen. They were the best of friends, celebrating birthdays together. Hoover and LBJ were great friends they lived next door to each other for 19 years in D.C. Why was Secret Service chased from the specially built stands on the back of the limo. You see it plainly when leaving Love Airport. How the same day, It was in the newspaper, they had it all figured out it. They said from the beginning the Soviet was involved! the FBI was so sure and announced the next day it was a "Lone Gunman"! Then they drilled into people's head, It was " a Magic Bullet" till they were blue in the face. Ford said we have to make it believable! Saying oh no Soviet Union involved??? How can they be so sure?
Was it over the Bay of Pigs? Oswald was receiving a check from USA gov. FBI or CIA on a regular basis, there are letters Oswald wrote to request money to help in his return from Russia. FBI had been watching him, a Marine who wants to give up citizenship, claims to hate U.S. He was related to Robert E Lee. Was he a spy who tried to play both sides? He comes back so broke he goes on unemployment yet keeps 2 residences Ruth Paine's husband close with CIA with Bell Helicopter. He is able to travel and buys weapons?? The FBI watches him, yet he qualifies to get a civil servant job, with benefits. They give him a government job with the book depository. He didn't even have to look for this job himself! They set him up his place to live, work Ruth was even teaching him to drive.
@@shernitadee The DPD beat the FBI (by a day) in determining that it was a lone gun man. And as it turns out, they were correct. Your sorry rehash of some long-discredited conspiracy talking points is beneath comment.
@@apointofinterest8574 how could they possibly come up with that!! They never investigated anything further!! Kept secrets till today. Nixon hated Kennedy worse than Trump hated Obama. How can you say those things!?? A marine who travels to closed communist Russia
@@apointofinterest8574 So because the Dallas police dept saying it was a Lone Gunman ends any further investigations. Very crooked police dept anyway. Men in uniform in Ruby's nudie bar. I am really going to believe them, lol. They were the ones unable to protect him. I don't even think they tried!! They were at fault along with the SS knowing all along so many threats against his life! Crooked police to the core!
I can guess the Sixth Floor Museum's answer to this question.
Oswald wasn't a sharpshooter. He missed the General and was much closer. Oswald scored marksman which is the lowest level of proficiency in the Marines. The gun found didn't belong to Oswald. So they changed the type of gun to what Oswald did have. And the beat goes on.
What I will never get is how so many politians knew of this assination and no one stopped it or reported it because we the Americans could have safed his life he should and all Presidents should be in a guarded car not a convertable.!!! He was the best and kindest!!!
well that is the point , they wanted him dead.
Of course, dear heart.
Did he really just say Oswald's motive could be explained because he MIGHT have read a newspaper article that changed his mind about Kennedy?
Thank God 🙏 We have not forgotten about this Man🤔🗽🇺🇸
No way. The mystery of the century.
If there's no plot, why won't they release the document?
MUST BE BAD OR TRUMP WOULD HAVE DECLASSIFIED.THE CONSPIRACY OF ALL TIME.
Yes, we need to know the truth. Less secrets by FBI, etc.
"Slip through their fingers" He did not do it They don't have any evidence
The evidence they DO HAVE are the zapruder films. Google that
I'm sorry, I'm sorry... but when a supposed expert says that he believes Oswald acted alone... after my having looked at this crime under a microscope for 54 years... there's simply no reason to listen further. CLICK.
Twice during this interview I noticed the two speakers lock eyes in silence before one of them answered. Everything will never be known if facts are held back
Why was officer Tippit's body removed from the scene before the police got there???
The truth is I don’t spend a lot of time leaving comments, especially multiple ones, But really these two guys are unbelievable... truly unbelievable. But I definitely believe the guy on the right when he replies to the statement “So to reassure the American public we deceive them and in the end it doesn’t work” ... he says “well that’s how it used to work, and to me it still does” ... never a truer word spoken, good on him.
they must be funded by the CIA
I knew at 1015 these guys are clueless when they saud the Watren commission did a good job considering.
I won't waste my time watching this video after reading your comment. So thanks
Totally agree and I was only 8 years old when Kennedy was assassinated.
The Warren Commission did a more horrible job than anyone can imagine.
so you know more than them? Tell me, what have you read? What research have you done? Seriously
I just can’t understand how anyone can believe that there was only one shooter when you can clearly see the exit wound at the right back top of his head. There is no logical way that a shot from up at the right could conceivably create an EXIT wound from the top back right! Not to mention the fact that all of the doctors in Dallas say the exit wound is in the top right back NOT THE FRONT as the autopsy in Bethesda shows.
Why? Only 1 shooter because the wounds in JFK and John Connally trace back in a straight line to Oswald on the 6th floor, and shots as you're suggesting coming from the grassy knoll, the front, the other side of the limo or from the bridge, COULDN'T possibly have created those wounds. The wound in the back of the head was an ENTRANCE wound. The bullet and bullet fragments were a ballistic match to Oswald's rifle.
@@jamesanthony5681 You don't have a darn clue, know nothing concerning ballistics and remain clueless. Which is good.
@@user6008 'You don't have a darn clue, know nothing concerning ballistics and remain clueless. Which is good.' -your comment
*damn
No bud, and that's why I rely on the ballistics experts. The experts that examined all the bullets and fragments collected and tied them to Oswald's rifle.
You are absolutely correct Melissa, and more importantly, you can not come to that conclusion unless you have common sense.
"When Injustice Becomes Law, Resistance Must Become Our Duty"
Alleged quotationIf you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie.
Do We want to mention the bullet hole in the windshield?, or the bullet fragments found in the car?