Well they still do, the Blood Ravens only fought the Guard because their Chief Librarian was secretly corrupted by Chaos and manipulated them into fighting the forces of the Imperium
A little late to reply, but still... *Spoilers for DoW2* In the DoW2 trilogy it's made clear that Kyras, the Chapter Master, had ordered the Blood Ravens there, knowing full well they'd be fighting the Imp Guard in pursuit of their relics. More than likely because at that point he was already corrupted by Chaos.
In the tabletop Karskin can take two plamsa guns which cut down SMs like piss through toilet paper. But you only get 4 shots, with 2/3s hitting and 5/6 wounding. Which is 3 dead marines a turn if your lucky. But they cant really take the return bolter fire. But the thing with guard is numbers which Spacemarines dont have.
@Tyratius2 Sisters of Battle pretty much thought both the Space Mariens and the Imperial Guard was the reason Chaos appered, so they were gonna set everything on fire, as for the space marines, eh, who knows about them
Actaully what you are describing is a stormblade. The bane blade is a massive 300+ ton tank armed with a mega battle cannon (upscaled version of the leman russ cannon) 2 las cannon turrets, a demolisher cannon, and 3 twinlinked bolter emplacements (2 sponson mounted 1 turret).
Great crusade was: Emperor try to unite humanity. But after him death imperium felt into relligion. In imperium is one organisation named: ecclesiarchy, which have which still worship Emperor.
Space marines see the Emperor beyond human, so probably they see him like god. Adeptus mechanicus see him like the greatest human ever walked among humanity.
Imperial Guard is normally a defensive force. They make sure that liberated or conquered planets stay imperial. The Space Marines are more of an offensive force.
are you kidding me? Commissars are known for being courageous and ruthless! They are storm troopers who volunteered to be commissars! Read up on Yarrick! He is the most hectic commissar you'd ever hear of!
Plus the Blood Ravens are strongly suspected of being descended from a Traitor Legion, due partly to the dialogue between Eliphas and Thule, the Imperial Guard ending, and the chapter's very high concentration of Psykers.
Dawn of War: Soulstorm A standalone game (not an expansion pack) but still using the same engine and mechanics of the older DoW series. Introduces the Sisters of Battle and Dark Eldar.
Perfectly reasonable question. But no. The Horus Hersy happens in the 31st millennium when the Imperium was young (by a few centuries) and the Emperior still walked among men. This is some 10,000 years before the events of either fire warrior and any of the Dawn of War series.
@TarroYoko I dunno they had 4 Leman Russ tanks and a Baneblade + 2 basilisk artilery cannons and Terms aren't too effective Vs Vehicles but thats just my opinion...
A single eye for the Emperor!? The merest pittance for one who is ready to give his life! FOR DA EMPRAH! Besides, he could always get those neat red ones.
in the ending of chaos rising it is discovered that azariah kyras, the chapter master of the blood ravens is a heretic, i guess that would explain why they had to fight even the guard, they were unknowingly following orders of a corrupt chapter master.
they do, the space marines got high mighty over some relics important to the chapter, in the ending for space marines ending the Ig's in the imperium of man dont forget their trechary (hint..hint). In the Ig story, an inquisitor is sent to investigate the chapter. But alteaslt Ig ending was more devoted to the imperium, they took the planet. If i recall correctly the Marines left.
Dont get it still I thought the Space Marines were on the same side as the Guards. They are both created to server and to protect the same thing arent they.
Whats the best hardware set-up for playing the 40K RTS games. I get random fritz-outs within minutes of starting a game. It's very frustrating, because I love playing this stuff :O(
Lol I know right? The Baneblade could fuck them all up on it's own (Including the four hellfire dreads). Now if the dreadnoughts were normal ones then yeah they could probably beat it by getting up to it in close combat but since that's not the case; the marines are screwed :P
@firestorm1332 no its not its a shame that the blood ravens wont tell anybody there probably linked with a traiotor legion and that lukas alexander died because he found out
Space Marines should kick IG easily but the Baneblade and the Basilisk ....make it a little tricky. I tend to outfit my SP squads with one of each weapon. Tend to devastate the enemy.
Here's my question. The Blood Ravens were on Kronus to secure their relics, right? Well, why would the Grey Knights (1:36) agree to help with that? I mean, I get it- new unit and all- but background-wise it doesn't make a lot of sense. And before anyone says it, I don't think they knew that Chaos was on the planet when they deployed.
I like the Imperial Guard's motive rater than the Blood Ravens, since they want to reclaim the planet for the Emperor(But their real objective was to hunt Farseer Talader) while the Blood Ravens wants to purge the planet since it's "Infested with Xenos", a very lame excuse since they had a connection to the planet.
i think that there is a little problem with the lore in this campaing, why alexanders is chasing taldeer? in think that this things do the order xenos with the deathwatch, and in the case that the imperial guard do it, why there is no inquisitor with lucas alexander?
Little late to this comment but... The reason why Alexander was chasing Taldeer was because this took place shortly after the events of Winter Assault. In Winter Assault, the canon ending was the Eldar faction, Taldeers forces gained an Imperial kill count of near 1,000 soldiers during mission 4, and they ended up destroying the legendary titan in Mission 5 after overloading it's power into the soulstone. The key relic that whole game was centred around and what Segmentum Command ordered the IG to collect no matter the cost. While the destruction of the the titan itself was an accident, the explosion caused from it razed the area for several miles, which wiped out most of what was left of the Imperial guard, and lead to the death of General Sturnn. Making Taldeer one of the most hated Farseers in the eyes of the I.G. and one of a higher priority to be captured then even Gorgutz or Shas'O Kais.
I need help! Im looking for a cutscene where... Space marines (Or chaos) Is in a ruin city and are watching out to the fog and see the necrons are coming out of it (Or chaos) I need to find it!
Theoretically I have sufficient in the machine, but... it appears that certain graphics cards are liable to over-heating and temporaray failure with this game, despite being 'in spec'...
i dont know whats a baneblade, so can anyone point out to me which one is it. and the ig was really stupid, putting guardsmen right in front of the sm instead of having some range between them.
Why couldn't the Imperial Guard and Space Marines fight alongside each other on Kronus? The Space Marines get their relics, and the guard secure the planet for the Imperium.
All the blood ravens want to do is recover their old relics to discover more about their chapters history. Imperial gaurd wish to repopulate the planets they conquer for the imperium... Which one sounds more selfish to you?
1. Emperor is example to all space marines. 2. Ussualy Emperor is god in the Imperium 3. Space marines are Emperor"s childrens 4.They are really zeal fanatics So, I just thing, that he is god to them.
duh. actualy it should run smoother. i dont have Dark Crusade or Winter Assault but both the Demos ran smother and with better textures on my old pc. 1 other thing Winter assault and Dark Crusade add is the option to make bodies NOT disapear and it dosnt realy slow the game down.
Argh. This gets asked in EVERY Dark Crusade video. The Blood Ravens are almost certainly descended from a Traitor Legion, based on clues given in the books and games. If the Imperium were to get their hands on the relics linking the Blood Ravens to their past, the chapter would be declared Excommunicate Traitoris and destroyed by the Ordo Malleus.
If the Imperium (Imperial Guards, Space Marine, etc.) works with Tyranids and Tau, then they can kick so many arses. I read some article and it said Tyranids cannot be affected by the influence of chaos. So there would be no more heresy. Also the Tau technology can give humanity more stronger advanced weapons. Only if they agree to worship the greater and the emperor though. (Sigh)
Well its not official name, but is currently that type of science stand on. On myths, magic and legends. All science and knowlage hols adeptus mechanihus. And they belief, that only waiting brings knowalagde. In fact all imperium still looking 31th imperium knowalagde and doesnt reachers somthing new...
any1 else has got the same problem with the first DOW graphics like me? i don't say they are bad, i'd say they are very good...but the whole atmosphere on the game looks kinda dark and sometimes i feel like i am locked on a 1-1 meter room o.0. in spite of this the game is AWESOME! :P
IT isnt a smart move to try to face down space marines!!!! BUT ... OMG .. the IG had so MANY guardsmen there .. TANKS and ARTILLERY + a FREAKING BANEBLADE .. Blood Ravens are in a bad situation!
play DOW 2, thule is alive and talks about kronos, and 2 of the sargents u use even say how successful it was. Also, the scout sargent tells u how fail boreale in soulstorm was lol
@RX117STARoTOAPRIME I can hardly imagine, that a hive-minded, predatory race that knows only survival, and evolutionary perfection, would work together with, or worship anything. The thoughts about the Tau are more considerable, but i think religion keeps the two empires at war, and that wont change, because of other threats. Think about real life religious wars: if the Europeans and the Arabians could work together, we would live today in a paradise for sure. But that's not how it works sadly.
remember when IG and spehs mehrenes fought side by side?
Well they still do, the Blood Ravens only fought the Guard because their Chief Librarian was secretly corrupted by Chaos and manipulated them into fighting the forces of the Imperium
A little late to reply, but still...
*Spoilers for DoW2*
In the DoW2 trilogy it's made clear that Kyras, the Chapter Master, had ordered the Blood Ravens there, knowing full well they'd be fighting the Imp Guard in pursuit of their relics. More than likely because at that point he was already corrupted by Chaos.
If I remember it right Kyras follow Khorne. He wanted that sweet sweet blood.
I wonder if kyras purposely sent the blood ravens to kaurava knowing it would end with all of the space marine companies being wiped out.
Mister Hamlicrazy123 not all
He had been corrupted by Ulkair while trapped on the Judgement of Carrion.
The guy in the DoW games has the best over-the-top voiceover.
In the tabletop Karskin can take two plamsa guns which cut down SMs like piss through toilet paper. But you only get 4 shots, with 2/3s hitting and 5/6 wounding. Which is 3 dead marines a turn if your lucky.
But they cant really take the return bolter fire. But the thing with guard is numbers which Spacemarines dont have.
thank u for clearing that up, kinda weird how they can fight eachother while they serve the same empire
those terminators had some balls to stand in front of that baneblade and its vanguard of meat shields.
1:04 dafuck is that valkyrie doing o.O
This is 40 k. Everyone is braindamaged.
it does make sense, if you go against your parent unit, you will eventually go against the imperium.
@Tyratius2 Sisters of Battle pretty much thought both the Space Mariens and the Imperial Guard was the reason Chaos appered, so they were gonna set everything on fire, as for the space marines, eh, who knows about them
Actaully what you are describing is a stormblade. The bane blade is a massive 300+ ton tank armed with a mega battle cannon (upscaled version of the leman russ cannon) 2 las cannon turrets, a demolisher cannon, and 3 twinlinked bolter emplacements (2 sponson mounted 1 turret).
The baneblade is the biggest of the tanks there. It has a huge plasma canon and several laser emplacements. It's in the middle of the whole gang.
Great crusade was: Emperor try to unite humanity. But after him death imperium felt into relligion. In imperium is one organisation named: ecclesiarchy, which have which still worship Emperor.
Space marines see the Emperor beyond human, so probably they see him like god. Adeptus mechanicus see him like the greatest human ever walked among humanity.
Imperial Guard is normally a defensive force.
They make sure that liberated or conquered planets stay imperial. The Space Marines are more of an offensive force.
are you kidding me? Commissars are known for being courageous and ruthless! They are storm troopers who volunteered to be commissars! Read up on Yarrick! He is the most hectic commissar you'd ever hear of!
so awsome.
Plus the Blood Ravens are strongly suspected of being descended from a Traitor Legion, due partly to the dialogue between Eliphas and Thule, the Imperial Guard ending, and the chapter's very high concentration of Psykers.
Dawn of War: Soulstorm
A standalone game (not an expansion pack) but still using the same engine and mechanics of the older DoW series. Introduces the Sisters of Battle and Dark Eldar.
Perfectly reasonable question.
But no.
The Horus Hersy happens in the 31st millennium when the Imperium was young (by a few centuries) and the Emperior still walked among men.
This is some 10,000 years before the events of either fire warrior and any of the Dawn of War series.
@fman40000 That happens every time u have to fight the guards or the ravens in every game execpt in choas rising
@Termojard Orks can be affected by the taint of warp however.
It's out right now.
@RX117STARoTOAPRIME tau can be effected by heresy so as orks cant.
@TarroYoko I dunno they had 4 Leman Russ tanks and a Baneblade + 2 basilisk artilery cannons and Terms aren't too effective Vs Vehicles but thats just my opinion...
A single eye for the Emperor!? The merest pittance for one who is ready to give his life!
FOR DA EMPRAH!
Besides, he could always get those neat red ones.
in the ending of chaos rising it is discovered that azariah kyras, the chapter master of the blood ravens is a heretic, i guess that would explain why they had to fight even the guard, they were unknowingly following orders of a corrupt chapter master.
If the Blood Ravens are descended from the Thousand Sons, it means they have Magnus' gene-seed and therefore must be purged no matter what.
I still don't get why the Imperial Guard is fighting the Space Marines.
they do, the space marines got high mighty over some relics important to the chapter, in the ending for space marines ending the Ig's in the imperium of man dont forget their trechary (hint..hint). In the Ig story, an inquisitor is sent to investigate the chapter. But alteaslt Ig ending was more devoted to the imperium, they took the planet. If i recall correctly the Marines left.
Woa that is bad ass!
BOO-YEAH ! THANKS
@fman40000 i think they just wanted to kill the guardsmen just cuz their mini people and marines would do a serious pwnage on them
Dont get it still I thought the Space Marines were on the same side as the Guards. They are both created to server and to protect the same thing arent they.
Lol, baneblade is there, shall we parlay another battle? No, Open fire on my command!
@Manyskins Dude look theres a map right and u see chaos i mean thats enough to get the point that we need the knights .
Thank you..When it will be published ?
less work for the Necrons, who will surely prevail.
Whats the best hardware set-up for playing the 40K RTS games. I get random fritz-outs within minutes of starting a game. It's very frustrating, because I love playing this stuff :O(
Lol I know right? The Baneblade could fuck them all up on it's own (Including the four hellfire dreads). Now if the dreadnoughts were normal ones then yeah they could probably beat it by getting up to it in close combat but since that's not the case; the marines are screwed :P
Yeah, I was wondering that. Aren't they both imperium?
@firestorm1332 no its not its a shame that the blood ravens wont tell anybody there probably linked with a traiotor legion and that lukas alexander died because he found out
THATS WHAT THE COMMISSAR DOES!
Dude i have the guard codex and i read up on IG alot!
The commissar pushes them forward/hold the line!
DO u need winter assalt expansion to play as imperial guard in skirmish and campaign or does it come with dark crusade?
Why didnt the space marines and the emperial guards shared the world or help each other?
When you have something scary in front put something even more scary behind (why we need commisars)
also, I bet the "official" ending is something along the lines of "everyone won in some particular way".
i thought the impreal gurds and space marines were on the same side
I have heard there will be a new version of Down of War..is that true ?
Orks outnumber humans by far, but have the disadvantage of being split into factions.
Space Marines should kick IG easily but the Baneblade and the Basilisk ....make it a little tricky. I tend to outfit my SP squads with one of each weapon. Tend to devastate the enemy.
Here's my question. The Blood Ravens were on Kronus to secure their relics, right? Well, why would the Grey Knights (1:36) agree to help with that? I mean, I get it- new unit and all- but background-wise it doesn't make a lot of sense. And before anyone says it, I don't think they knew that Chaos was on the planet when they deployed.
where can you get the backround music for this??
I like the Imperial Guard's motive rater than the Blood Ravens, since they want to reclaim the planet for the Emperor(But their real objective was to hunt Farseer Talader) while the Blood Ravens wants to purge the planet since it's "Infested with Xenos", a very lame excuse since they had a connection to the planet.
The intro of this video is very good....
*HEEEEURRRRGGGGHHH*
i think that there is a little problem with the lore in this campaing, why alexanders is chasing taldeer? in think that this things do the order xenos with the deathwatch, and in the case that the imperial guard do it, why there is no inquisitor with lucas alexander?
Little late to this comment but...
The reason why Alexander was chasing Taldeer was because this took place shortly after the events of Winter Assault.
In Winter Assault, the canon ending was the Eldar faction, Taldeers forces gained an Imperial kill count of near 1,000 soldiers during mission 4, and they ended up destroying the legendary titan in Mission 5 after overloading it's power into the soulstone. The key relic that whole game was centred around and what Segmentum Command ordered the IG to collect no matter the cost.
While the destruction of the the titan itself was an accident, the explosion caused from it razed the area for several miles, which wiped out most of what was left of the Imperial guard, and lead to the death of General Sturnn. Making Taldeer one of the most hated Farseers in the eyes of the I.G. and one of a higher priority to be captured then even Gorgutz or Shas'O Kais.
@McChang117 Yeah it will work i got windows 7 premium
I need help! Im looking for a cutscene where... Space marines (Or chaos) Is in a ruin city and are watching out to the fog and see the necrons are coming out of it (Or chaos) I need to find it!
Be glad of this. :)
0:01 Hadoken!
@RX117STARoTOAPRIME tau cant be effected by heresy so as orks cant.
A question... Do I need to have the Winter Assault expansion to play with the Imperial Guard in Dark Crusade....????
I don’t think so old comment you have lived a lifetime
someone explain in good detail what the horus heresey was?
Theoretically I have sufficient in the machine, but... it appears that certain graphics cards are liable to over-heating and temporaray failure with this game, despite being 'in spec'...
i dont know whats a baneblade, so can anyone point out to me which one is it. and the ig was really stupid, putting guardsmen right in front of the sm instead of having some range between them.
Why couldn't the Imperial Guard and Space Marines fight alongside each other on Kronus? The Space Marines get their relics, and the guard secure the planet for the Imperium.
The Marines are fighting the Guard..?!
Damn, somethings gone wrong here...
they will prevail i hope ig wins i mean like winter assault eldar campain won
I got news for you
All the blood ravens want to do is recover their old relics to discover more about their chapters history. Imperial gaurd wish to repopulate the planets they conquer for the imperium... Which one sounds more selfish to you?
Space marines win, at the expense of captain Thule's right eye.
dude space marines whant the IG out of the planet cuz there have the chapter darkest secrets
1. Emperor is example to all space marines.
2. Ussualy Emperor is god in the Imperium
3. Space marines are Emperor"s childrens
4.They are really zeal fanatics
So, I just thing, that he is god to them.
duh. actualy it should run smoother. i dont have Dark Crusade or Winter Assault but both the Demos ran smother and with better textures on my old pc. 1 other thing Winter assault and Dark Crusade add is the option to make bodies NOT disapear and it dosnt realy slow the game down.
it would have been soooo funny if someone fired the titan cannon at the enginseer at 0:28
WHAT PLANES!? there aynt any PLANES in Dark Crusade!!!
Argh. This gets asked in EVERY Dark Crusade video.
The Blood Ravens are almost certainly descended from a Traitor Legion, based on clues given in the books and games.
If the Imperium were to get their hands on the relics linking the Blood Ravens to their past, the chapter would be declared Excommunicate Traitoris and destroyed by the Ordo Malleus.
If the Imperium (Imperial Guards, Space Marine, etc.) works with Tyranids and Tau, then they can kick so many arses. I read some article and it said Tyranids cannot be affected by the influence of chaos. So there would be no more heresy. Also the Tau technology can give humanity more stronger advanced weapons. Only if they agree to worship the greater and the emperor though. (Sigh)
I LOVE BASILISKS!
@fman40000 lol seems to happen way too often.
Well its not official name, but is currently that type of science stand on. On myths, magic and legends. All science and knowlage hols adeptus mechanihus. And they belief, that only waiting brings knowalagde. In fact all imperium still looking 31th imperium knowalagde and doesnt reachers somthing new...
Traditoris... Those are major accusations towards the Emperor's finest!
It's a different kind of game though, no worries.
Platinum Edition is still solid and DoW2 is still a ways away.
any1 else has got the same problem with the first DOW graphics like me? i don't say they are bad, i'd say they are very good...but the whole atmosphere on the game looks kinda dark and sometimes i feel like i am locked on a 1-1 meter room o.0. in spite of this the game is AWESOME! :P
lol no way! 4 leman russes, a baneblade, and like 6 to 1 no way in hell they would lose
if the space marine were on easy, the could defeat that army
If it's Important they would use space marines.
my uncle got it 4 me not me
Look at the lamonRuss Tanks -(cadian 8th symbol)
IT isnt a smart move to try to face down space marines!!!! BUT ... OMG .. the IG had so MANY guardsmen there .. TANKS and ARTILLERY + a FREAKING BANEBLADE .. Blood Ravens are in a bad situation!
omg , not you again.. everywhere u allways say "nice! Thankyou" its "Thank you" not thankyou
Damit Dark Crusade looks so good
i can get it the only problem is
i don't have a ****in DVD rom :-( *yells*
U mean bad Space Marines
play DOW 2, thule is alive and talks about kronos, and 2 of the sargents u use even say how successful it was. Also, the scout sargent tells u how fail boreale in soulstorm was lol
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But Y waste time built one can u just simply use the old one. Save time and money dont u think
right? that was some Major B.S.
@RX117STARoTOAPRIME I can hardly imagine, that a hive-minded, predatory race that knows only survival, and evolutionary perfection, would work together with, or worship anything. The thoughts about the Tau are more considerable, but i think religion keeps the two empires at war, and that wont change, because of other threats. Think about real life religious wars: if the Europeans and the Arabians could work together, we would live today in a paradise for sure. But that's not how it works sadly.
1- Roleplay less, these are the fucking RUclips comments not a game of Dark Heresy.
2- No more studying Warhammer fluff until you pass English class.
if the blood ravens attacked the guards at 1:43, it would've been a swift victory.....with all those terminators there