This LOCATION will get NERFED! These Rogue cards are INSANE!
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- Опубликовано: 27 июн 2024
- Today we review cards from the upcoming Hearthstone expansion Perils in Paradise that will launch on July 23rd.
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A lot of Wishing Well Rogue synergy.
Or as I like to call it "Hold 8 Coins the entire game because both Wishing Wells are literally the last 2 cards in your deck" Rogue.
i tried the Naga that discovers from your deck to get them more consistently
"Oh manager" is the voice line from the entitled customer from stormwind, who is geatured in the art
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maybe zeddy could skip himself and not spoil the cards in the first minute, takes away the hype
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It’s the “oh manager” guy from stormwind!
Uhhhh, Lynessa can make coins cast twice. Uh oh.
didn’t realize that, makes oh manager -2 mana deal 4 lol
i already see the durability of that location going down to 3 i don’t even know what the hell they were thinking
They were thinking that if 4 for 1 is ok for secret passage, 4 for 3 is ok for this.
I can already see people using it > getting one of those high cost cards > then cry. Even tho over half of your deck cards cost 1-3 mana - doesn't mean you're gonna get 4 draws that you play right away, and in case of secret passage you do instantly - without extra annoying condition.
The only reason Knicknack Shack is at all scary is because you get to bank the (fairly costed) 3 mana one turn and then get the value the next turn, like reverse overload. Rogue has cheaper ways to draw cards than this, ones that don’t brick if you hit one of your actual payoff cards like Edwin or Drakka as well. It’s a good card in Miracle Rogue sure, but it’s not going to be the best card in the deck still.
I still think this location is going to get nerfed. I'm callling 1 durability nerf, and then in the future another one... draw only gets better with expansions...
@@Cuestrupaster I would be somewhat surprised, as it becoming effectively a 3 mana draw 3 at best would seem really mediocre. We’ve seen a card like Backfire in Warlock, and while Rogue could benefit more from their own low curve with miracle deck shenanigans, that also is still rather vulnerable too, both in how easy it is to brick by hitting one of your 5 “pop off” cards or how vulnerable they could be to removal. It could be strong, but Standard Rogue doesn’t have a full suite of tools for it, and Wild Rogue just has better forms of card draw, though this one does have its niches and quirks.
@@goldenson4566 I think you're missing the point that it's "0 mana draw 3 sometimes 4" because you can just bank your mana...
It's going to be BONKERS in wild lmao
@@Fentoscopique could you elaborate on why? Clearly this is beneath cards like Secret Passage and Gear shift in terms of draws per mana, and that ignores the real chance at any time for this to be below rate in draws. It lets you bank mana for a stronger pop off turn, but that also means letting your opponent set up longer for a counterplay.
The location might actually be busted in wild, draw 4 with upside and all the rogue archetypes are draw a ton of card and play 8/8's right now.
Why does wild Rogue need a 3-mana draw 4 when they can just 1-mana draw 4?
Idk. 3 mana is pretty expensive for wild. Also rogue's list are refined to a point were adding more draws means getting rid of your win con.
There's absolutely no way Rogue will play a 3 mana draw 4 in Wild. Rogue already decks themselves by turn 5 on the regular there.
I can smell Rouge pirate handbuff deck in the air
Its a knick knack Patty Wack, give the frog a loan his old mans a rolling stone
Does Zeddy actually play wild? Swordfish is wayy more prevalent than kingsbane
Knickknack Shack is really interesting but I don’t know how busted it’ll be. It’s Kingpin Edwin’s effect but capped at 4 cards, doesn’t give you the huge body, and you can’t shadowstep it.
Knickknack Shack feels like a worse version of the Stormwind Edwin (remember when they buffed that card? It was one of the dumbest balance changes lmao) until you consider you can play it and activate it a turn later to try and chain those draws from full mana, which could be quite strong. You can also have it reopen and not use it until next turn if your mana gets low, which gives it really strong flexibility rather than being full-on feast or famine.
It’s secret passage you can taper off when you think you won’t be able to use it again (for example, split it over two turns and not waste the draw when you’re low on mana)
Also oh manager is literally two damage for one total mana as you bank the other for later when you want it and can use to enable combos.
paladin is running air guitarist right now. They would be happy to cut that for the swordshiner.
Man, I feel like Rogue is approaching some sort of critical mass of coin synergy and generation that it actually goes nuts with a deck that needs a nerf.
I'm already picturing the arcane giants down possibly earlier and most consistent with so much free draw.
The location will not get nerfed because it only draws 1 card on turn 3 unless you find exactly Prep or Shadowstep. So the draw is usually very delayed. You can skip turn 3 and activate this on turn 4, but how many activations on turn 4 do you actually consider realistic? I think 2 on average is reasonable to assume. So you skip turn 3, draw 2 cards on turn 4 and then draw the rest on turn 6? That doesn't seem broken at all. It also has the downside that you kinda limit your deckbuilding. Drawing a Tess, for instance, will almost always automatically end the draw chain. You also need to play enough cards that you actually want to use in the situation when you activate the location. Imagine drawing removal with nothing to remove on the board, for instance. So yeah, I think you overestimate the location, and you honestly underestimate the weapon buffer. THAT is the card we should be worried about because it turns Pick Axe into a draw 4, it turns handbuff into a +5/+5...that is crazy good and will likely see a nerf of some sort
Just reminding everyone that Paladin gets Rogue cards.
Swarthy Swordshiner can be used to refresh Painter’s Virtue.
Yeah knickknack seems a bit busted lol.
Glad to see some Wishing Well synergy though.
I think there will be an archetype called Knickknack Rogue. I am a believer in the shack.
I started with rogue being a pretty bad winrate, always been my favorite. Haven't been around for a rogue meta yet.
Almost at 500 wins already tho
so excited to play new cards!
as a rogue main, we really dont need more card draw, its the last thing rogue needs, we need some actual value, like i have a full hand most of the match on most matches, we need some actual value / synergy cards that have impact on the game, i see lots of coin generation, so maybe they could add a card that has an strong impact depending on how many coins you have used or something like that.
Why the most well known "draw cards" class has MORE access to draw cards every expansion?
It is main rogue mechanic? Like look at each miniset rogue got like 66,6% cards with draw effect from them. Combo? No. Draw.
@@impkiller5932 yeah right? It used to be a combo class
Gotta stick to the theme
@@VSMartins398 I thought main theme for rogue was draw from the beta and classic? Like you know draw all your deck turn 5 with auctioneer only was rogue thing to do...
Well... At the very core of it, Combo requires more than average draw. Since if you have to play 2 cards when you want to play a card it means you need to have more cards available to allow this.
Outside of that... It's because they design Rogue one dimensionally. They only give Rogue Aggro/Miracle/Combo archetypes which means lots of draw and degenerate mana cheat.
They've never bothered to give Rogue a value or control based archetype and are the singular class in Hearthstone to be this way (Yes, both DH and Hunter have both had slower archetypes with things like Midrange and Big Beast Hunter and Big Demon DH being a common, albeit failed, archetype).
Even Rogue's Burgle archetype has been largely a meme outside of when it was being a degenerate aggro deck with Gnolls and mana cheating out Jackpot spells (Then replaying them all with Contraband Stash)
It's a knickknack caddy shack, throw Zeddy a bone.
I don’t understand why the location is broken, it is really just worse Edwin most of the time with the slight upside of if you fail you can try again in two turns and with the massive downside of doing nothing to the board
Zeddy will be playing Rogue soon.
Knicknack shack making that shaman draw a battlecry minion location cry 😂
This shaman location is the best card in wild in big shaman, and this rogue location? Just play sprint common...
I like the Entitled "Male Karen" Customer reference in Oh, Manager!
Why rouge always get the good stuff
Isn't shack just a secret passage for 3? Good, but not broken.
Yes but no because you can keep your hand so you can keep coin and prep +4 cards and if somehow you brick and get a card you can't play you can keep and try again after 2 turns since location removal isn't trivial.
Knickknack Snack Shack or Knicknack Shag Shack?
I am very upset with the location! I was expecting that the card you draw cost 1 less! Doesn’t even feel rogue card! 😂😂😂😂
Prep + Sprint is 3 mana draw 4, but requires two cards.
Yea but this also has an upside, since you can wait a turn before using it, which means you can pay upfront the turn before
3 mana to draw 4 seems bad. Secret passage does the same thing and costs 1.
Looks like all coins become innervate with paladin. Could be the dawn of miracle paladin with all this coin generation
It's not all coins, it's just coins you play while Lynessa is on the board.
As far as Miracle Paladin goes... They don't have that good a draw to Miracle through their deck, even with this location. I don't think any of the coin stuff will see play in Paladin it's just too awkward with not much to really get from it (Like even in Rogue, the coin generation stuff is literally only used for Wishing Well and no other deck bothers with it and the same will hold true for these coin generators too)
With how busted Handbuff Pally is going to be... I can't see any "Miracle" decks popping up.
@@tarille1043people are running greedy partner in a lot of reno decks right now, don’t see how these won’t be used in reno paladin as a way to coin out your highcost stuff
Paladin is going to be playing Swarthy Swordshiner
it depends partially on how ubiquitous our friendly tradable viper is. It can be bricky too since you aren't going to want to be playing it until at least turn 6 with a coin, probably turn 7. It has potential, but you really want to be killing your opponent by after the 3rd swing. I wouldn't be surprised if this is win more, especially with a whole rogue pool of cards to potentially optimize further than normally possible. Power creep will be insane this rotation, and a lot of cards that might make the cut today probably won't next expansion.
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ok seriusly where is gank up?
paladin needs a shuffle spell
the card draw location will see play in paladin
oh manager references entitled customer (warlock card from united in stormwind) in art
So, place your bets. Miracle rogue gonna be S tier again?
OH Manager is gonna be OP in wild, more face damage
Kingsbane got a buff.
i Don't see knickknack being so broken. 3 mana draw 4, in one turn if you buid a whisp penguin deck. You'd need to coin knick turn 2 into knick turn 3 then execute the combo turn 4, where you can possibly play giants, for free, but you really have to play multiple cards and hope you don't draw giants early.
Imagine if Knick knack shack could’ve been played with paladin’s Order in the court. Absurdity.
It can in wild...
The new Rogue cards can go into paladin decks though
so I pay 3 mana to take damage by hitting my face into minions that could very well have 3 health + for 2 coins , crazy
Yeah dude, play 3 mana to equip garbage 2/2 weap while paladin has two 5/5s with taunt divine shield xd
more coins in rogue?! WISHING WELL TIME!!
The location reminds me of Edwin, Defias Kingpin.
I think it is just 1 mana less sprint?
@@impkiller5932 2 Mana less because Sprint is 5 Mana, but yes, it's pretty much a 3 Mana Sprint that Paladin can also use.
@@locogato3488 sorry I have brain damage so I tried my best, I don't know why I decide that this location cost 4 mana to draw 4...
As someone who more or less only play Rogue, and has been doing that since closed beta... I don't think these cards will be all that impactful. For Rogue specifically. Oh Manager seems fine, but the rest are just eh. I never really rate Thief Rogue stuff any high though. Seems fine for Paladin however, better there.
Why rogue gain stuff again
It's funny to say, but the rogue location is probably to slow for wild. Setting up something on turn 3 is way to slow, and if you coin it out on 2 you probably already can play giants instead. I would rate it a solid 2 or 3 out of 5
Hey guys do you remember blizzard buffing newer Edwin to 3 mana? Do you remember how strong it was? How about adding location for same cost?🤣🤣🤣
Rogue is gonna be crazy
Cant rogue already draw like 5 cards by turn 2 anyway? lol Card draw has never been a problem for rogue unfortunately.
The first 5/5 of the expansion
Hmmmmmm finally i can make my wishing well be insane heheheh
Auto include Viper in every deck
Knicknack shack isnt that impressive. Rogue has always had stupid csrd draw and it damages your play pattern/can whiff super hard. Im betting itll see play but its not gonna be something people complain about too much
Bro in wild, aggro or miracle decks will just touch themselves to the shack location.
Incoming nerf:
they down the durability and mana...
so a future buff haha
I will kick Nick's snacks for sure.
idk i dont think rogue wants to play this location, way too slow in my opinion. i think its much better in highlander paladin
Tell us more how little you know about wild as swordfish sees way more play than kingsbane
I think that kb rogue is stronger deck than pirate rogue, but what can I tell, I am just top 400 rogue player in legend
@@impkiller5932 tell me where I said anything about strength. If anything all you proved is a monkey who can’t read can reach legend.
Sometime i Wonder, wath happend in the minds of developers to think its a good idea to drop cards like this 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
Cool a location that supports, you just have to play not win Hearthstone
I LOVE THIS CARDS
everyone is breaking out ridiculous decks right now it SUCKS
Yay
that location aint all that
GO ROGUE OR GO BROKE
I don't even think these look that good
The HS team is just full of Rogue mains. They never learn.
When was the last time rogue was good? Nathria?
@@manchovieclemmons2380 I don't need to lose to Rogue to have a bad time. It's just scam after scam and it's solitary
@@franhdv1304 that's me and druids
Buddy stop saying cards are 0 mana thanks to prep, or start saying Kun in -10 mana with Guff
More insane draw just what the game needs (not)
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Why he hate rogue so much 😢
Such a frustrating class to play agasint, never actually pays for what they are doing
YESS I LOVE ROUGE
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Let’s nerf late game play and create more aggro and mana cheat. 🤦♂️
god that weapon is horrible lol
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Rogue will kill wild and destroy standard for a week or two until those card get nerf. Handbuff pirate paladin will problably be brokem too.
I don't think that this location would go in mirracle rogue bc it looks weak and it is not spell sadly, it is better to I don't know play sprint with prep for the same effect but instant and not spending 1-3 turns for that... For standart? Maybe it is as good as previous rogue location that makes pirates from 1/1 to 5/5.
@@impkiller5932 I don't agree sprint+prep is 2 cards for the same effect and you just spend prep you could have used to play one of the 4 cards you draw.
I don't think that location is as good as secret passage but is probably a really good engine for a combo miracle play. Being a location give you the advantage of drop on 3 and wait to use to full combo on 4 something SP doesn't give you.
@@pettking7137 prep + sprint is 2 cards and it is 2 spells they reduce giant cost on 2, this is location it is not a spell = bad card. It is too expensive like rn I am playing rogue twisted pack + finley to draw 5 cards for 2 mana and make my gnolls cost 0 + 0 mana obsidian shards. Why would I want a 3 mana draw 4 in like 2-3 turns when I can draw 5 cards on turn 1 with coin or prep?
just make it only 3 class in hearsthone already might as well just make rogue,paladin,mage the only class available and delete all the other classes every season rogue,paladin are always the overpowered and cheating class
Want to go back in time? As in before the last 2 years. Paladin was the meme "a million archetypes that don't work", "overcosted, fair cards" and "random garbage from every tribe". Best deck it ever had was Librams. It was on the second position, if not first on the list of weak classes. Priest was first, but it always came back with another annying ghimick. Compared to Warlock, who was number one. Or Druid. DH? Just in the last year it had a deck with high win rate vs every class. Then you had Mage, a good class, that went from good to "Yugioh style" to "random spells go face". Rogue agro is the only good it had. Others are meme. Even this cards are too "fair" for normal Rogue shenanigans.
nah, rogue will be the worst class
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Ah sweet more miracle stuff. I can't wait to see my opponent vomit their whole deck, throw down 20+ power in one single turn, and make it nearly impossible for me to win in wild. So nothing's actually changed in that case.
That's why we need Reno.
Its Just drawing cards. Its OK. I don't Care about that
Rogues struggling in Wild? 🤔
Rogue is not struggling like u think, in rankings looks they are struggling but that not true, the reason is 90 percent of people who play HS dont know how to play Rogue Decks, need a lot of skills and brain thinking...