Victron inverter 48v / 1200 watt run 12,000 btu mini split only batteries. 10 watt idle usage
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- Опубликовано: 20 фев 2024
- First time using a Victron energy product, pulling straight out the box and showing you how it works. Running 12,000 btu mini split with just EG4 LiFePO4 battery and I ton 48v, 1200 watt pure sine wave inverter. No solar panels connected to make it run. Solar will be added later to recharge battery bank. Will be using products in diy motor home 12,000 btu mini split project. Check out our other videos on running many appliances you thought were impossible to run using solar.
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One of the most efficient inverters I’ve seen in its size. Morningstar has a similar line but it’s spendy. Low power draw as well.
This has a really low idle consumption, thanks so much for your input.
efficiencie is a way of messuring, if 120V
is only a part from the real voltage you are not measuring the real voltage a trans former have loses, you can buy a 120 V alternator but remember the alternator is three phase now is that alternator 120 V on single phase or two phase? but in fact that alternator is nothing
less or more 3 x single phase on the name plate
standing almost always a lie, that is why i look
differend to a alternator,the real voltage from three phase is 2.34 times single phase.
@user-dc2ot2tj2b Thank you for all your input. We appreciate it so much. Hope you have a wonderful and blessed 2024
many of them have there ups and downs
for me i use the SMA core one 40/50Kwh
and that have only to do with the voltage i am
using 540 volts, now you will say that is a
ongrid inverter yep treu but what is the different
between on and of grid? a safety device, it will not work if there is no power on the cable but that is only a small problem, for home you do not need 40Kwh
@user-dc2ot2tj2b Thank you so much for your input. Appreciate it. The highest I go is 240 volts with my off grid system but is nice to know if you have a higher voltage system and needs , it is possible. Hope you have a truly wonderful and blessed week.
I was going to say 12kW mini-split off a 1200W inverter, but you said BTU in the video. Which makes much more sense now.
I’m glad that makes sense, sometimes it comes out wrong and I get a word salad that does not make sense. It sometimes gets missed before I upload video. This is really easy to connect, just need to know how to connect it all. I think the biggest problem most would face is connecting inverter to battery not expecting a huge spark from battery terminal as the capacitor in the inverter is charged. Using a ceramic resistor shown in video makes it possible to safely charge capacitor and not damaging inverter or battery. Thank you for your comment and if you ever have any questions, please feel free to ask. I try to answer within minutes to within hours. Starting to see why those who do videos on Victron products are happy with their choice. Hope you have a wonderful and truly blessed 2024
@@diy-solar-guy Thanks. I understand it all, I was just wondering why the title said 12kw mini split and how that would run off a tiny inverter. Just a mistake in the title of 12kW instead of 12,000 BTU.
@inothome I had to shorten the title by a few characters, only allowed 100 characters in title, so that’s why it says 12kw instead of 12,000 btu mini split. I will try to change it. You make a good point. Thank you. I was able to change to 1 ton mini split just now.
Omg Pappa finally noticing Victron u should get u a victron charge controller & a victron smart Shunt all victron solar products are monitored through Bluetooth on ur phone Victron make some of the best solar equipment on the market all Bluetooth
I will look at getting those in the future. Probably the shunt 1st, but have to many charge controllers now, lol. Thanks for the great suggestion.
@diy-solar-guy that's what I use the 500 amp victron Bluetooth smart Shunt to monitor my solar on my phone thru the victron connect app I know u would love victron products
Victron is really nice shit. I use 75/15 cc to build small on board 12v trickle/maintaining charging on my diesel trucks and trailers... really good stuff
I found the 1200 is perfect for running a washing machine, as it usually spikes over 1000 W on the spin cycle. Also refrigerators can spike up to 800 W or more.
I find that as well. I run a fridge/freezer combo and 3 chest freezers on solar and battery bank 7/24. I see the spikes all the time especially when 3 of those appliances surge at the same time. Usually I would get a cheaper inverter and get 3000 watt hoping it might actually run something that only uses 1200 watts. I heard nothing but praise on RUclips videos about Victron so I thought I would try it. I just did a video on connecting a Bluetooth dongle for this Victron inverter and it worked. Was very easy to download app and quick to set up and start using. No quirks at all. So I am very impressed with the victim products and will be using more in the future. Thank you for your input. Hope you have a truly wonderful and extremely blessed 2024.
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Yes, my whole off grid system is run by Victron. I have a 48 V/5000 inverter, separate 250/150 charge controllers, and offbrand batteries.
I love the control and detail in the app on the phone and using Victron shunts are second to none!
@simon359 I have a Victron shunt being delivered this week. Can’t wait to install it on my Growatt 12kw system. I run very large loads with that. I run a 127,000 btu pool heater heat pump that uses 8500 watts when running. It is a beast to start up. Thank you for sharing about your system. Life is good when you have off grid solar.
Thank you for the video. What is the max power you have used before the inverter shutdown… some video on RUclips clam it’s 800 max
@@omerfar I was able to use 1150 watts and still kept running. Never shut down.
Really enjoy your videos thank you for making them, very interested in solar & building my own setup. I love the idea of free electricity! What would you say is the best most common gauge of wire? 2/0? (I'm new) Is that 2/0 or 3/0 wire in the video? Would you reccomend 4/0 for battery to battery parallel wiring?
I think that 2/0 wiring would be good enough for a 2,500w inverter , x4 battery - 400ah total battery bank, & 500 watts of solar - eventually 600-800w of panels
Inverters and batteries manual will have the correct wire gauge. My inverters have different specs so it is best to refer to installation instructions for your battery and inverters. Always best to follow manufacturer guide lines on all wire gauge. I use 10 gauge solar specific wire for solar panels to breaker before inverter and then from breaker to inverter. I use the harbor freight 3 foot or 6 foot cables, but I have to cut one end to attach Anderson 175 amp quick disconnects. I crimp on with a special tool that can be bought on Amazon or eBay. I always have breakers between all my components of what the manufacturer recommends so I can disconnect power at each point and shut down equipment. The 6 foot cable is #2 AWG and the 3 foot cable is 2/0 AWG. I can exceed 100 amps load when running my pool pump that uses 7500 watts at 230 volts. Just follow manufacturer recommendations and you will be ok. My server rack batteries came with parallel cables looks like they are 6-AWG and are 12 inches long. These came with the batteries from Signature solar. Really important you use manufacturer recommendations for the size wire they recommend. Hope this helps. Hope you have a truly wonderful and extremely blessed 2024.
@@diy-solar-guy ohh I see, that helps. thank you very much 👍 you have a great & blessed 2024 also, so far so good, really good I am very grateful to God.
Thank you
From your video title, Did you actually measure the idle power yourself or you just followed what the manufacturer specification said?
There is no fan that I could hear running when at 90 percent load. I used a watt meter connected to the inverter then plugged in mini split. I also saw a few other diy solar guys say the same thing in their videos that they tested the inverter and it was insanely low idle consumption. I know Will Prouse did a video on the Victron inverter and after testing said the same thing. The idle consumption stated was correct. I hope this helps you in making a decision. Hope you have a blessed week
wonder how this inverter is working out powering this mini split??? its got to be on the bleeding edge of its capacity, I never did try to power my 12kbtu with my victron 1200, the senvile unit crapped out after 3 months of use anyway, wonder if the chicom 3000w inverter (that puts out 122-125v) might of done it, in the end it only would draw about 200w of power(compressor made noise) but wouldn't heat or cool at all, like the motor had become detached from the pump internaly
I ran for about an hour in my 3 car garage and never had a problem, this will be in my motor home and that is only about 120 square feet at most. It can easily cool that 120 square feet down 20-30 degrees in an hour since mini split can cool up to 600 square feet. It was using around 1050 watts while running. Will let you know when I go camping and use during the day and overnight. Sorry to hear your unit crapped out in only a few months. I paid $550-$600 for each unit off eBay for my 12,000 btu 120 volts ac AUX and Premium brand mini splits and now over 3 years later no leaks or problems. I have 6 installed. Hope you have a truly wonderful and extremely blessed 2024
Thats great info thanks! If you ever get ahold of any of the victron bluetooth charge controllers, you wont want to use any else! @diy-solar-guy
@@john0270 thanks
Instead of using a resistor to connect, I use a circuit breaker.
I never heard of that, I will look into using a breaker. Thank you
Wise choice choosing a low frequency, transformer based inverter. By the way, your Chinese made, EG4 high frequency inverter in not UL-458 certified and never not be used for mobile applications such as a motorhome.
I appreciate your input. Most products over the past few years were not UL listed, just recently are the UL products becoming available. Most DIY campers take this into consideration when making a system and each person has to determine what they want to use. I do appreciate your input but have already decided we will use the 3000 watt inverter and will in the future try other inverters as well. We only use motor home one to three times a year so not going to drop a lot of money into off grid system. Signature solar is listing it as a RV mobile kit. I trust they know a little something about the products they sell to sell as a rv kit. Most Diy guys out there are testing out equipment like I am doing. We see if it will work in different settings. I am testing this out to see if it will work. I appreciate your opinion but it is my choice to make. Hey hope you have a wonderful and truly blessed 2024.
Does air conditioner is inverter?
No ac is not with an inverter.
Victron is good but it is only a single phase inverter like many other.
You are correct. This will be used in a motor home for just 120v loads only. No need for split phase in this application. Also one of the main reasons I bought this inverter is the 10 watt idle consumption which is insanely low for this type of inverter. We will be installing a EG4 3000 watt off grid inverter as our main inverter during the day paired with solar panels. We will run the 1 ton mini split during day with solar and at night we will use this Vitron inverter. We have 2-51.2v Eg4 Lifepower4 batteries in parallel to use for overnight, Each battery is 100 amp hours. Each battery is 5120 watt hours. The mini split will probably average 300-500 watts per hour usage overnight. The 3000 watt Eg4 inverter idle consumption is around 50 watts. Using the victron overnight will save us 480 watts for a 12 hour period. That is an extra hour of run time for mini split. We have a second EG4 3000 watt inverter on the way, with those 2-3000 watt inverters in parallel, we will be able to get split phase 120/240v. We could run the rooftop ac with the split phase and solar but rooftop ac is not very efficient compared to low power usage on 1 ton mini split. The rooftop unit uses over 2000 watts compared to max on mini split of around 1100 watts max. We save almost 1000 watts per hour with mini split. Plus the rooftop ac does not cycle to lower watts like the 120 volt mini split which can drop down to as low as 200 watts while running. The rooftop ac is really all I have in the motor home that is 230 volts. This Victron is also a pure sign wave inverter. Thanks so much for your input. we appreciate it. Hope you have a truly wonderful and extremely blessed 2024
120 volt is not single phase not from 50hz and not from 60 hz they make up a story
to sell you there product the fact is a generator have to run 1800 rpm and 50 hz 1500 rpm so who is more efficient every turn is burning feul.@@diy-solar-guy
@user-dc2ot2tj2b 50 hz is more efficient than 60 hz but we use 60hz in US. Thanks so much for your input.