They're excuse is lame why don't they learn to be honest and tell us they just don't like hyper sonic because it's too hard to animate i mean they already don't like the classic games as far as i can tell
@@SaiyanScholar by the way I'm glad you made this video i was thinking they could bring back hyper sonic and fleetway at the same time have fleetway escape again and force sonic to have to use the super emeralds
@@SaiyanScholar also let's be real dragonball super ripped off hyper sonic and the super emeralds with they're super dragonballs and Ultra instinct goku
Hyper Sonic is the TRUE final form of Sonic. The fact that such an awesome form is never seen anymore is a bigger crime to this series than even 06. XP
@QuickThePorcupine Sadly,sega at this point is making the lore that sonic can overcome the use of the emeralds,it is cool but contradictive considiring the emeralds give access to infinite pools of energy.
@Ryo zero It isn't the reason though. They said in an interview that the only reason hyper sonic didn't come back was because they felt adding more forms would make it too similar to dragon ball. Not to mention even if they didn't say it something would have come out about it by now.
Actually there were no sources that supports that claim it was because of seizures it was because they got rid of hyper sonic because they thought there were too many emeralds which is fucken stupid because dragon ball has the dragon balls and the super dragon balls while the sonic franchise had the chaos emeralds and the super emeralds and the master emerald so also more important information they said in an interview that hyper sonic was just a bonus for buying sonic 3 and sonic and knuckles also another thing tails was supposed to have a hyper form in the November 3rd 1993 sonic 3 prototype though the super form was unused but it still existed but they changed it because he was younger than sonic and knuckles so they made tails (inexperienced) with harnessing chaos energy so he needs to use super emeralds to obtain his first super form super tails also the hyper forms were supposed to have made a return in sonic mania in the games files the word hyper can be found in the same font as super used in the special stage screen when you get all of the emeralds "you can now play as super..." It would look like this " You can now play as hyper..." like and or comment if you thought this was helpful info.
The excuses they keep making up is getting on my nerves. They go from saying the sonic 3 and knuckles is non canon, to saying the form itself isn't canon, to saying seizures, to saying TOO MANY EMERALDS, to currently say to too many forms. It's clear to me that they DO NOT want the hyper transformations back. Heck they're was even data of hyper in sonic mania but the team were probably told to not add the hyper transformations in the game and got scrapped. If they don't wanna make the super emeralds canon fine, but at least have it as like a secret or something to unlock after completing the main game/story. But if they were to have them in stories again, have the chaos emeralds go through a ritual on angel island in the hidden palace where the master emerald can give the chaos emeralds there own super form.
If they didn't wanna bring back specifically the hyper emeralds, they could just retcon it to Sonic going super with the Chaos emeralds and the power of the Master emerald, or something similar to that. It sucks that they just completely try to bury one of the coolest looking forms of Sonic to date.
More like sonic on crack. This is sonic at his absolute limit. He's lost the chaos emeralds but found something more. But even with this power he has to focus and redirect eggmans rockets back at him using his power wisely unlike in the intro of sonic 3 when he used super sonic and got bodied by knux. Very underused in my opinion.
At least this time sonic didn't ripped off from DB, so people couldn't say that he looks like Mastred Ultra Instinct, and they forget that other series also ripped off from DB like naruto
@@Omega-jg4oq Did you know before Ultra Instinct, Code Lyoko did something similar? No really Jeremiefied Odd leaves behind white arm effects just like the ones Goku leaves behind. tHe MoRe YoU kNoW
@@devanplays3509 Also SEGA made the Super State unique, that's why they didn't get sued and I do mean unique as in Sonic Adventure 2, these forms if they're overused will make the user vanish entirely and that alone distinguishes it from DB, it's not death or loss of energy that is the danger, it's fading out of existence.
Hyper Sonic Was Going To Return In Mania as Seen In Unused Data, But Id Assume Sega Snooped In And Disapproved It. Leaving Us With Super Sonic.. *the part of sega snooping in is just my guess*
"It's better to burn out than fade away" This is a quote by Neil Young, and demonstrates how I feel. I'd much rather see Hyper Sonic be exclusive to one of the best Sonic games than be milked to death like almost everything else you see in Sonic and Dragon Ball. This is fine, this is perfectly fine for me. Hyper Sonic will be remembered for his bests and not his potential worsts at the hands of modern Sega.
@@rainbow_vader No kidding. What the hell are they thinking? No wonder they were in danger of going out of business. They still haven't made Sonic Adventure 3 in almost 20 years and No Sonic Heroes 2 in 15 years SMH.
@@Renegade77784 they said they don't want to revert back to the adventure formula and would rather move on to new things. Oh and I also hate Sonic heroes so I'm happy no sequel for that, but I love the adventure series so I'm sad for that
I think the reason Hyper Sonic never returned is because he was never needed again, from a design standpoint. He existed to make sure the giant rings in the Sonic & Knuckles levels still had value even if you've already gotten Super Sonic. He's there to solve a design problem that was only there as a result of combining two games into one and letting you take your Emeralds from one to the other. Since that never really happened again, they didn't need to take away the Chaos Emeralds and make you do more special stages halfway through again, and so they didn't need Hyper Sonic again.
@@vladc137 Archie is basically sonic literally becoming a god and hyper? Has infinite possibility (hehe) and power i mean c'mon chaos control exist why not emerald control?
Ironically the cynic in me believes that nazo unleashed may have been what killed hyper sonic in the eyes of SEGA. If only because it introduced some thing that the fans want more than hyper sonic… Hyper Shadic
I loved Hyper Sonic because it felt like a true reward when you unlocked it and if you had never seen the form before it would really surprise you because up to that point the best you could do was Super Sonic. It also was better than Super Sonic so it wasn't like like a new skin only changing his appearance. It gave him new abilities and unlocked the true ending of the story. In my opinion, that is the perfect representation of why people loved Sonic 3 and Knuckles and why people are right in saying they never treated Sonic better. It really shows in the sales and popularity that came after. I think if they ever brought Hyper Sonic back they would be very surprised about the feedback they get.
I feel like they could easily add both the Super Emeralds and Hyper Forms back into a main series game. To prevent the whole seizure thing, they could just either make the form white with rainbow highlights/aura, or make it so the colors fade instead of flash.
Honestly in my mind the reason the hyper form flashes so rapidly is because at that point Sonic was to inexperienced with the chaos emeralds sure he was basically a prodigy with them but not to the extent to use hyper, and this reason could even be used to explain the flashing super forms the others have, and changing the design could be explained with the idea he can now more easily control it and it would in my opinion feel cooler as we see Sonic wielding a form better than last time we saw it, sorry for how fanficy this sounds.
Hyper sonic does sport a base white color but when he was in his classic form he was flashing colors because he didnt know how to control his power and he was just releasing all of his power
I really wish hyper sonic got more fame because there's also hyper knuckles and he didn't get much attention and love I will never forget hyper Sonic he will always be in our hearts and true legendary sonic fans
Not even Super Knuckles. I hoped to see him in Sonic Heroes the first time I played the final story and Sega gave them a golden shield. Seriously? That was very disappointing
Blame iizuka. I swear. That guy just likes to waste Sonic's potential All the time. They could just limit hyper sonic on varying games. Or give him a restriction like knuckles doesn't like the master emerald's power being used for giving the emeralds more power unless need be. I wish yuji naka was still here, he would have definitely let hyper sonic reappear in future titles.
And Ultra Sonic from the Comics existed many years before Ultra Instinct. Even the Nazo form in the Sonic X pilot existed many years before Ultra Instinct.
Love the shout-out to game apologist, between your work and his, Sonic, and particularly Hypersonic, or getting the attention and love that they so deserve. Wish I could have come up with the idea to cover this first, but I'm glad you guys did it.
I never got to experience the power of Hyper Sonic in Sonic The Hedgehog 3 or any of the classic games. But I did know he existed because my older cousin told me about the Legendary Hyper Sonic and even showed me pictures of him from the game to fan art. I wish Hyper Sonic does appear in a new Sonic The Hedgehog game. And after watching this video, you gave me the knowledge about Hyper Sonic and I will share the video with others to continue Hyper Sonic’s legacy.
I didn't know about Hyper Sonic until I finally got all 14 emeralds as a youngster and it completely blew my mind. Then later finding out Tails and Knuckles had super versions made my head explode.
The whole concept of Super Emeralds and Hyper Sonic (and Super Tails) was freaking mind blowing to me when I first found out. Removing it is a double edged sword; it sucks that they loophole every reason NOT to put it in anymore but you can't ruin something if it isn't given the chance to be ruined; it's strange
Omg. I agree so much! I am kinda curious on the Hyper mode. I want to see Hyper mode on other characters as well, and I believe that it I WAY underused. Sonic 3 & Knuckles was the second game I beat EVER (Sonic Colors was first) and I LOVED it. I worked so hard to get all of the special stages and I loved it so much. They NEED to have it in more games.
@@SaiyanScholar you know the reason why we don't see hyper Sonic anymore is because the creators don't want to get a copyright claim from DBZ because they think hyper Sonic is too close to ultra instinct but the hyper form came out way before ultra instinct did 🤔
@@maximoomega3691 how the hell would that work hyper sonic is nothing like ultra instinct and i don't believe that bcus sega never got any comment from akira toriyama regarding anything about super sonic sonicjam.wikidot.com/aii2005:dec30
@@novateel6037 IKR it makes no sense ultra instinct would be invincible to hyper Sonic I can't believe there afraid of getting a copyright claim from DBZ
@@mikerude5073 Exactly. If that legitimately was the reason why Hyper Forms were canned then they should just do what S3AIR does and just slow down the color changing...
@@omni9387 Their official bullshit reason is that they never wanted to have Hyper Sonic at all. Instead, they wanted Super Sonic Heroes. But they couldn't get it to display all 3 Super characters at once properly, plus I'm pretty sure it would glitch the Knuckles fight, so Hyper Sonic was created as an alternative. Personally, I call complete BS. Iizuka is just a pussy. Christian Whitehead included a reference to the Super Emeralds in Lava Reef Zone where Knuckles fights Heavy King for the Master Emerald. There are Stone Relics that are left behind, after the Super Emeralds cracked open, and the current day version of the Chaos Emeralds came out. The Super Emeralds could still be awakened, but you need to be in close proximity to the Master Emerald to pull it off, and they don't really have time to go to Angel Island every time there's a new threat. However, Sonic Mania was indeed a missed opportunity. Christian Whitehead, who developed part of the game, said that he established that the Super Emeralds used to exist, but not anymore. Apparently, it's supposed to be a one-time form, but I don't think so. The Chaos Emeralds could easily just enlarge, like in Nazo Unleashed, to create Super Emeralds. However, all the powers that Hyper Sonic used to wield, like the Homing Attack that evolved from Hyper Flash, and the Boost ability, are now usable in Base or Super form, except breathing underwater. That's still restricted. Hyper Sonic is probably one of the most OP characters in fiction, simply because of his Reality Warping capabilities augmented by Hyper form. Chaos Control is already OP, but Hyper Chaos Control is HELLA OP!
"the door was just opened and had so much to explore" no kidding, the hyper sonic, what are the super emeralds and how they manage to effect the master emerald, the mural on the background on hidden place when you face knuckles. its a fucking lore treasure to explore and sega never did it.
Hyper Sonic was incredibly awesome. To me,that form was like Sonic reached God tier. You could say he may be UI Sonic. Then again,he was never used again because not many game developers remember him. And I don't consider Sonic's universe to be like Dragonball since nobody can fly and shoot energy and stuff. Besides that, I'm glad you made a video about him kind sir. I'd love to see him make a comeback.
In Sonic 3, Sonic & Knuckles and Sonic 3 & Knuckles/Sonic 3 Complete, Super Sonic and Hyper Sonic's eyes are dark green. They are not supposed to be dark green. They are supposed to be black. In the 16-bit version of Sonic 2, after you get all 7 Chaos Emeralds, collect 50 or more rings and transform Sonic into Super Sonic, Sonic's eyes don't change color. They stay black. Sonic's eyes are not supposed to change color. Plus, in Sonic 3, Sonic & Knuckles and Sonic 3 & Knuckles/Sonic 3 Complete, Super and Hyper Sonic's ending sprites have black eyes, not dark green eyes.
I had always imagined that the hyper sonic transformation causes Sonic's hair to get a coating of some unknown metal only created by the super emeralds due to their immense heat and power combined with a massive absorption of particles from the air. And that these particles are used to form said metal that is extremely magnetic but has a magnetic field presumably controlled by sonic. As for the stars that fly around him, I imagined they too have a magnetic field, but that they are used to stabilize the main one on sonic so that it doesn't get out of control and end up destroying everything around him. And that when sonic does his second jump, those stars align in the shape of a ring while switching their polarity to north or south (whichever one is opposite of Sonic's) to pull him through, so that when sonic is going through them the stars switch to whatever polarity sonic is using, so that their conflicting polarities cause sonic to be propelled through it at an incredible velocity. So basically, I imagined hyper sonic is a walking rail gun.
I think they should definitely reintroduce Hyper Sonic, because the movie has definitely brought in more fans, and they probably won't play all the original games, they'll stick with the more modern stuff, meaning that many might never even HEAR of Hyper. It's so sad that Sega's just single handedly ruining their own franchise.
I never understood SEGA's reason. If they really care that much about Sonic being similar to DB then why is Super Sonic a thing? They're denying the fans of the series the ultimate reward for the stupidest reason ever lol
the only way too make hyper sonic better is if they remove super sonic weakness like drowing or falling in a abyss or being crushed imagine hyper can´t drown when it´s fall in a abyss just fly off it when it´s is crushed he become intangible until get out of the place
Sonic had ALREADY gone down the DB ripoff rabbit hole with the Chaos Emeralds and Super Sonic. And the Eggmobile is a copy of Freeza's hoverpod. And it's not just DB; the Death Egg is a clear Death Star parody. And Sonic and friends jump into baddies and collect 100 shiny circles for another chance at life just like the heroes of their rival franchise. Why should Sega be so worried about being seen as unoriginal only some-odd years later?!
I wanna see it in a New 3D sonic world, but you play only the little fat old sonic, but in 3D. And the quest is the same of Adventure 2. Stop eggman from blastin' earth. Like, Sonic's quest is to reunite the 7 Super chaos emeralds and enough rings, and the finally, Sonic tank the blast, and destroy eggman's moon solo
I had forgotten how spot-on this video was. Hyper Sonic is a must on a story i'm writing, the story is about my own Fan Character but Sonic and friends gets involved with it.
Hyper Sonic is the GOAT. I never played Sonic 3 & nuckles, but he was a huge part of my childhood and I still like him because of this AWESOME animation (that I used to think it was canon when I was a kid) NAZO UNLEASHED, FEATURING HYPER SONIC AND HYPER SHADIC LIKE HOLY SHIT
@@christopherb.5797 it needs to be in games, that would be a great dynamic. A 3d open world sonic game, with sonic changing forms solar sonic, eco sonic, and polar sonic respectively.
Ik this is over a year old and I'm personally not a huge sonic fan I'm mostly here for nostalgia, but as someone who's played the original Sonic 3 and knuckles when years after it came out (I'm 14 now but I was 7 when I first played sonic 3 and knuckles) and it one of the first game I have ever played and whenever I hear some people talk about the new sonic games I always think back to hyper sonic and where he went?
Getting hyper sonic added like 30+hrs to that game. Little baby me had his mind blown when he saw the super emeralds and with no guides telling me what would happen when I got them all, made the reveal even better.
Hyper Sonic was without a doubt, the best transformation of Sonic, rivaling Super and Werehog Sonic. Hyper Sonic was a taste of going past the limit (Super Sonic). It felt worth it going through the process of collecting 7 Chaos Emeralds and 7 Super Emeralds to being godlike and unstoppable. All of this, and SEGA throws out one of the best things from Sonic 3 and from the franchise as a whole.
Hyper Sonic was one of those things as a kid i would rub in my friend seans face ( he was that kid on the block who owned everything, but he did not have the knuckles expansion. ) id be like " oh you can only go super, I can go HYPER in my sonic". Man we were ruthless to each other.
this is the truest video on you tube x thankyou for doign this "Hyper Sonics end closed the chapter on the hard core retro gamers of the past, like a statue of Hercules an iconic symbol of excellence in 2d 16bit times" Legendry stated @SaiyanScholar
Just went though sonic 3 complete again on my retroid pocket 2 + and unlocked Hyper sonic. Forgot how stressful the blue sphere games were. Well worth it!
Yeah Hyper Sonic made either one or two appearances in the Archie comic I know one of them was when Sonic was running around with the super emeralds strapped on his back to stop robotnik's time being but he was only there for a brief moment.
Hyper Sonic to me is underused. It even looks cool to me
Absolutely agree.
They're excuse is lame why don't they learn to be honest and tell us they just don't like hyper sonic because it's too hard to animate i mean they already don't like the classic games as far as i can tell
@@SaiyanScholar by the way I'm glad you made this video i was thinking they could bring back hyper sonic and fleetway at the same time have fleetway escape again and force sonic to have to use the super emeralds
@@SaiyanScholar also let's be real dragonball super ripped off hyper sonic and the super emeralds with they're super dragonballs and Ultra instinct goku
@@Serge_Jackson I saw the similarity with Ultra Instinct, but I didn't even think about the Super Dragon Balls, holy heck.
Thanks for the shout out, man! Great video as always!
Hey man! No problem at all! Absolutely loved that video!
Thank you for making this video I would be so happy if Hyper Sonic returned
If only sonic mania did it
I’m here.
That Hyper Sonic picture in the thumbnail is so damn cool. I love it.
Same
I dont think theres a use for hyper sonic. Super sonic can already do many of the things hyper does.
Eventually this is going to get to,.
"Life, what the hell happened"
LOL.
Saiyan Scholar u should do ichigos true bankai what the hell happened!
oh yeah that's cyphershell.
Kaexe Wirus ikrrrr ichigos true bankai is the ultimate disgrace
True
Hyper Sonic is the TRUE final form of Sonic. The fact that such an awesome form is never seen anymore is a bigger crime to this series than even 06. XP
Facts
@QuickThePorcupine Sadly,sega at this point is making the lore that sonic can overcome the use of the emeralds,it is cool but contradictive considiring the emeralds give access to infinite pools of energy.
Actually ultra sonic is sonic's most powerful form.
Ultra archie sonic : am i joke to you ?
@@blackhoodie4170 what more powerful it's not hyper
Hyper sonic was so cool they should bring him back
I agree!
Hell yeah. The fluctuating colors made him look like a godly being that mere mortals would never dare to challenge. LOL
Sonic Team stopped using Hyper Sonic because his constant flashing colors gave people seizures.
@@SonicPlayer2004 That's just a rumor. Sega never said that was the reason.
@Ryo zero It isn't the reason though. They said in an interview that the only reason hyper sonic didn't come back was because they felt adding more forms would make it too similar to dragon ball. Not to mention even if they didn't say it something would have come out about it by now.
Seizures that’s what happened
lmao
Actually there were no sources that supports that claim it was because of seizures it was because they got rid of hyper sonic because they thought there were too many emeralds which is fucken stupid because dragon ball has the dragon balls and the super dragon balls while the sonic franchise had the chaos emeralds and the super emeralds and the master emerald so also more important information they said in an interview that hyper sonic was just a bonus for buying sonic 3 and sonic and knuckles also another thing tails was supposed to have a hyper form in the November 3rd 1993 sonic 3 prototype though the super form was unused but it still existed but they changed it because he was younger than sonic and knuckles so they made tails (inexperienced) with harnessing chaos energy so he needs to use super emeralds to obtain his first super form super tails also the hyper forms were supposed to have made a return in sonic mania in the games files the word hyper can be found in the same font as super used in the special stage screen when you get all of the emeralds "you can now play as super..." It would look like this " You can now play as hyper..." like and or comment if you thought this was helpful info.
Memelegend thanks for the info
@@memelegend3660 can they explain why there can't be 2 sets of Emeralds? We literally have no idea where the Chaos Emeralds came from anyway
@@HYPERxSONICxFANx2012 To add to that, Sol Emeralds in Sonic Rush so don't seem like they care how many emeralds there are to me
Hyper Sonic ... cheated and betrayed by the ones who gave us him and covering him up with sorry excuses
*Its a God Dang Crime*
Don't disrespect the title of God.
The excuses they keep making up is getting on my nerves. They go from saying the sonic 3 and knuckles is non canon, to saying the form itself isn't canon, to saying seizures, to saying TOO MANY EMERALDS, to currently say to too many forms.
It's clear to me that they DO NOT want the hyper transformations back. Heck they're was even data of hyper in sonic mania but the team were probably told to not add the hyper transformations in the game and got scrapped.
If they don't wanna make the super emeralds canon fine, but at least have it as like a secret or something to unlock after completing the main game/story.
But if they were to have them in stories again, have the chaos emeralds go through a ritual on angel island in the hidden palace where the master emerald can give the chaos emeralds there own super form.
Hyper sonic is canon same for super emeralds
If they didn't wanna bring back specifically the hyper emeralds, they could just retcon it to Sonic going super with the Chaos emeralds and the power of the Master emerald, or something similar to that. It sucks that they just completely try to bury one of the coolest looking forms of Sonic to date.
More like sonic on crack.
This is sonic at his absolute limit.
He's lost the chaos emeralds but found something more.
But even with this power he has to focus and redirect eggmans rockets back at him using his power wisely unlike in the intro of sonic 3 when he used super sonic and got bodied by knux.
Very underused in my opinion.
At least this time sonic didn't ripped off from DB, so people couldn't say that he looks like Mastred Ultra Instinct, and they forget that other series also ripped off from DB like naruto
@@Omega-jg4oq sonic and naruto didint rip of db. All they did was taking inspiration
@@Omega-jg4oq Did you know before Ultra Instinct, Code Lyoko did something similar? No really Jeremiefied Odd leaves behind white arm effects just like the ones Goku leaves behind. tHe MoRe YoU kNoW
@@devanplays3509 Also SEGA made the Super State unique, that's why they didn't get sued and I do mean unique as in Sonic Adventure 2, these forms if they're overused will make the user vanish entirely and that alone distinguishes it from DB, it's not death or loss of energy that is the danger, it's fading out of existence.
@@artistanthony1007 true
I always felt the super emeralds and hyper forms of sonic the hedghog was a miss opportunity to explore through out the series
Cause Sega is retarded.
@@Eminster exactly, they are retarded in some ways smh.
Honestly hyper shadow if the super emerald returns hyper shadow could have been a thing
Hyper Sonic Was Going To Return In Mania as Seen In Unused Data, But Id Assume Sega Snooped In And Disapproved It. Leaving Us With Super Sonic..
*the part of sega snooping in is just my guess*
SNOOPING AS USUAL I SEE
@@yellowmello1223 SNOO *PINGAS* USUAL
@@yellowmello1223 great
@QuickThePorcupine and sol emeralds
Snooping as usual
And not to mention, Dark forms, like Dark, Super Dark, and Hyper Dark Sonic.
And ones that appear ocasionally or in special events? Even less.
Yep!
They were never canon
@@rooban989 is black knight- and secret rings Canon. Cause there is that one line at the start of generations
@@dragonmaster3030and sonic mentions secret rings in the IDW comics also
@@Llmonty_ he does I haven't actually read the comics just played the games and watched the shows sonic x and some of boom
"It's better to burn out than fade away"
This is a quote by Neil Young, and demonstrates how I feel. I'd much rather see Hyper Sonic be exclusive to one of the best Sonic games than be milked to death like almost everything else you see in Sonic and Dragon Ball. This is fine, this is perfectly fine for me. Hyper Sonic will be remembered for his bests and not his potential worsts at the hands of modern Sega.
The thing is, with how speacial he is, if theybbrought him back it would like one or 2 games every decade so milking idk but eh whatever.
Super forms are already so powerful that Hyper form would be hard to milk following a coherence in the lore
your reasoning doesn't even make sense but sure.
Even tho hyper Sonic is underused it's still fucking amazing. And actually hyper sonic is super sonic x7
Haha yes.
@FireIron 36 bad? Sonic and Knuckles 3 is pretty much where Sonic Peaked.
It's a slow downhill slide from there until garbage like 06
Lucy Kassune I’d say Unleashed was the peak.
THATS AT MINIMUM considering one super emerald is ultra in the comics which is above super...
The quality is more "up and down and all around."
Scholar: *HOW DID HYPER SONIC BECOME A DIS*-
Me: DISGRACE
Scholar: *DISREGARDED ALMOST FORGOTTEN*
Me: oh
Lmao!!!!
The real *DISGRACE* here is SEGA
this comment got me lol
@@rainbow_vader No kidding. What the hell are they thinking? No wonder they were in danger of going out of business. They still haven't made Sonic Adventure 3 in almost 20 years and No Sonic Heroes 2 in 15 years SMH.
@@Renegade77784 they said they don't want to revert back to the adventure formula and would rather move on to new things. Oh and I also hate Sonic heroes so I'm happy no sequel for that, but I love the adventure series so I'm sad for that
I think the reason Hyper Sonic never returned is because he was never needed again, from a design standpoint. He existed to make sure the giant rings in the Sonic & Knuckles levels still had value even if you've already gotten Super Sonic. He's there to solve a design problem that was only there as a result of combining two games into one and letting you take your Emeralds from one to the other. Since that never really happened again, they didn't need to take away the Chaos Emeralds and make you do more special stages halfway through again, and so they didn't need Hyper Sonic again.
super sonic wasn't needed either.
Oh yeah that awesome form that was utilised properly unlike a certain other form🤔 A form so OP it was used a few times not every Sunday
Haha!
i think Sega just ditched hyper Sonic because it looked like A LOT like ultra instinct.
@QuickThePorcupine I don't think it worked.Sonic instantly became high multiversal after 2010.
High multiversal? I thought he was low, though I wouldn't disagree with you. What's your reasoning?
@@vladc137 Archie is basically sonic literally becoming a god and hyper? Has infinite possibility (hehe) and power i mean c'mon chaos control exist why not emerald control?
"Hyper sonic is never used again"
Meanwhile at random sprite animation:
Am i a joke to you?
as well as one of the best sonic fan animations of all time
Chakra x: "am i a joke to you"
@@michielkudova3887 Nazo unleashed was my childhood.
@@ElHarmonyV it holds a special place
@@michielkudova3887 Sonic RPG:like what he said
My cousin enjoyed hyper sonic so much he started breakdancing while drooling alot
I've been waiting to see hypersonic again in a great sonic game since 2005. That form deserves more respect! The fans will always remember ✊.
Mad respects to Chakra-X's Nazo Unleashed for giving Hyper Sonic justice as well.
Ironically the cynic in me believes that nazo unleashed may have been what killed hyper sonic in the eyes of SEGA. If only because it introduced some thing that the fans want more than hyper sonic… Hyper Shadic
@@michielkudova3887 yea looking back on that, it was cool seeing a fusion of them. but yea you are right
Nazo… another one we didnt get
@@michielkudova3887Also Nazo is just unused modern hyper sonic that everyone thought he was evil and not sonic for some reason.
Another great video, I love how you do Sonic videos as I'm also a massive fan of Sonic haha!
I loved Hyper Sonic because it felt like a true reward when you unlocked it and if you had never seen the form before it would really surprise you because up to that point the best you could do was Super Sonic. It also was better than Super Sonic so it wasn't like like a new skin only changing his appearance. It gave him new abilities and unlocked the true ending of the story. In my opinion, that is the perfect representation of why people loved Sonic 3 and Knuckles and why people are right in saying they never treated Sonic better. It really shows in the sales and popularity that came after. I think if they ever brought Hyper Sonic back they would be very surprised about the feedback they get.
considering how popular sa2 was id say otherwise.
I feel like they could easily add both the Super Emeralds and Hyper Forms back into a main series game. To prevent the whole seizure thing, they could just either make the form white with rainbow highlights/aura, or make it so the colors fade instead of flash.
They could instead make hyper Sonic have a pastel rgb color scheme thing, I'd dig that.
Honestly in my mind the reason the hyper form flashes so rapidly is because at that point Sonic was to inexperienced with the chaos emeralds sure he was basically a prodigy with them but not to the extent to use hyper, and this reason could even be used to explain the flashing super forms the others have, and changing the design could be explained with the idea he can now more easily control it and it would in my opinion feel cooler as we see Sonic wielding a form better than last time we saw it, sorry for how fanficy this sounds.
Hyper sonic does sport a base white color but when he was in his classic form he was flashing colors because he didnt know how to control his power and he was just releasing all of his power
I really wish hyper sonic got more fame because there's also hyper knuckles and he didn't get much attention and love I will never forget hyper Sonic he will always be in our hearts and true legendary sonic fans
Not even Super Knuckles. I hoped to see him in Sonic Heroes the first time I played the final story and Sega gave them a golden shield. Seriously? That was very disappointing
@@mep6302 I feel like Mario does a better job of power ups
@@mep6302 we didn't even get to see super tails very lazy
Hyper Knuckles is the SUPER transformation of Knuckles.
Just like Turbo Tails is the SUPER transformation of Tails in Archie Comics.
_The minute I saw ya put that quote there with that sender, I chuckled at the truth of it._
They have no execuse of not using him,he came before ultra instinct.
YES!
Blame iizuka. I swear. That guy just likes to waste Sonic's potential All the time. They could just limit hyper sonic on varying games. Or give him a restriction like knuckles doesn't like the master emerald's power being used for giving the emeralds more power unless need be. I wish yuji naka was still here, he would have definitely let hyper sonic reappear in future titles.
@@Eminster Why did Yuji Naka left?
And Ultra Sonic from the Comics existed many years before Ultra Instinct. Even the Nazo form in the Sonic X pilot existed many years before Ultra Instinct.
@@Starwarsfan1253 i forgot but it had something to do with sonic '06...
Even tho I'm not the biggest sonic fan, it's hard to pass on one of your videos. Keep it up!
Hey man keep up the great content and thank you for bringing this up.
Bro you hit every nail on the head!! Chose the perfect word and analogy's for this video!! Thanks man I needed this!!
1:23 GameApologist Shout out. You have my respect.
I think he appeared in a comic back in the day, but I don't know anything about that.
“That’s a lot of blue smarties”
Love the shout-out to game apologist, between your work and his, Sonic, and particularly Hypersonic, or getting the attention and love that they so deserve. Wish I could have come up with the idea to cover this first, but I'm glad you guys did it.
I love the sonic content!!! It’s great
Thank you so much!
I never got to experience the power of Hyper Sonic in Sonic The Hedgehog 3 or any of the classic games. But I did know he existed because my older cousin told me about the Legendary Hyper Sonic and even showed me pictures of him from the game to fan art. I wish Hyper Sonic does appear in a new Sonic The Hedgehog game. And after watching this video, you gave me the knowledge about Hyper Sonic and I will share the video with others to continue Hyper Sonic’s legacy.
I didn't know about Hyper Sonic until I finally got all 14 emeralds as a youngster and it completely blew my mind. Then later finding out Tails and Knuckles had super versions made my head explode.
4:16 that is the mastered ultra instinct mod
this is exactly what I needed after the shut down of the Sega heroes servers so thank you for making my day
Hyper Sonic was actually cut in Sonic Mania
If you look into the files you can see the word "Hyper"
The whole concept of Super Emeralds and Hyper Sonic (and Super Tails) was freaking mind blowing to me when I first found out.
Removing it is a double edged sword; it sucks that they loophole every reason NOT to put it in anymore but you can't ruin something if it isn't given the chance to be ruined; it's strange
Hyper Sonic it's so popular just because all the sprite animations doing over the years
Hyper Sonic is a Goddamn Retro Legend.
Omg. I agree so much! I am kinda curious on the Hyper mode. I want to see Hyper mode on other characters as well, and I believe that it I WAY underused. Sonic 3 & Knuckles was the second game I beat EVER (Sonic Colors was first) and I LOVED it. I worked so hard to get all of the special stages and I loved it so much. They NEED to have it in more games.
We don't even see him anymore also can you do a what the hell happened with shadow
Yes that will come.
@@SaiyanScholar you know the reason why we don't see hyper Sonic anymore is because the creators don't want to get a copyright claim from DBZ because they think hyper Sonic is too close to ultra instinct but the hyper form came out way before ultra instinct did 🤔
@@maximoomega3691 how the hell would that work hyper sonic is nothing like ultra instinct and i don't believe that bcus sega never got any comment from akira toriyama regarding anything about super sonic sonicjam.wikidot.com/aii2005:dec30
Also the werehog I liked Sonic Unleashed Weregog transformation
@@novateel6037 IKR it makes no sense ultra instinct would be invincible to hyper Sonic I can't believe there afraid of getting a copyright claim from DBZ
This makes me want to see a Death Battle video of Hyper Sonic vs UI Goku.
What about the seizures? I thought that was the reason for it to be taken out. But I love Hyper sonic as well
The other excuse was too many emeralds.
They could have just slowed down the color changes, had it fade from each color to white, then fade to the next color so it wouldn't cause seizures
@@mikerude5073 that's a lot of a better idea
@@mikerude5073 Exactly. If that legitimately was the reason why Hyper Forms were canned then they should just do what S3AIR does and just slow down the color changing...
@@omni9387 Their official bullshit reason is that they never wanted to have Hyper Sonic at all. Instead, they wanted Super Sonic Heroes. But they couldn't get it to display all 3 Super characters at once properly, plus I'm pretty sure it would glitch the Knuckles fight, so Hyper Sonic was created as an alternative.
Personally, I call complete BS. Iizuka is just a pussy. Christian Whitehead included a reference to the Super Emeralds in Lava Reef Zone where Knuckles fights Heavy King for the Master Emerald. There are Stone Relics that are left behind, after the Super Emeralds cracked open, and the current day version of the Chaos Emeralds came out. The Super Emeralds could still be awakened, but you need to be in close proximity to the Master Emerald to pull it off, and they don't really have time to go to Angel Island every time there's a new threat. However, Sonic Mania was indeed a missed opportunity. Christian Whitehead, who developed part of the game, said that he established that the Super Emeralds used to exist, but not anymore. Apparently, it's supposed to be a one-time form, but I don't think so. The Chaos Emeralds could easily just enlarge, like in Nazo Unleashed, to create Super Emeralds. However, all the powers that Hyper Sonic used to wield, like the Homing Attack that evolved from Hyper Flash, and the Boost ability, are now usable in Base or Super form, except breathing underwater. That's still restricted. Hyper Sonic is probably one of the most OP characters in fiction, simply because of his Reality Warping capabilities augmented by Hyper form. Chaos Control is already OP, but Hyper Chaos Control is HELLA OP!
I lost my beep when I found out that it was gonna be in mania but they cut him
the most likely candidate for hyper besides sonic and knuckles is shadow due to his natural affinity for chaos energy
Hyper Sonic needs to be in the modern games.
"Who has never heard of Hyper Sonic?" Eh heh... That... would be me. I need to get out more... and play and see more Sonic stuff.
2:54 "And what really puts super sonic as well as super sonic to the test"
"the door was just opened and had so much to explore"
no kidding, the hyper sonic, what are the super emeralds and how they manage to effect the master emerald, the mural on the background on hidden place when you face knuckles.
its a fucking lore treasure to explore and sega never did it.
Sonic Mania would have been the perfect game if they included Hyper Sonic.
Hyper Sonic was incredibly awesome. To me,that form was like Sonic reached God tier. You could say he may be UI Sonic. Then again,he was never used again because not many game developers remember him. And I don't consider Sonic's universe to be like Dragonball since nobody can fly and shoot energy and stuff. Besides that, I'm glad you made a video about him kind sir. I'd love to see him make a comeback.
Andre Pendleton
Well, I mean, Super Sonic has god tier powers. Besides, Shadow can shoot blasts and Silver can fly and shoot psychic beams.
Seen Sonic x?
@@coolheroe1331 Yeah.
In Sonic 3, Sonic & Knuckles and Sonic 3 & Knuckles/Sonic 3 Complete, Super Sonic and Hyper Sonic's eyes are dark green. They are not supposed to be dark green. They are supposed to be black. In the 16-bit version of Sonic 2, after you get all 7 Chaos Emeralds, collect 50 or more rings and transform Sonic into Super Sonic, Sonic's eyes don't change color. They stay black. Sonic's eyes are not supposed to change color. Plus, in Sonic 3, Sonic & Knuckles and Sonic 3 & Knuckles/Sonic 3 Complete, Super and Hyper Sonic's ending sprites have black eyes, not dark green eyes.
I had always imagined that the hyper sonic transformation causes Sonic's hair to get a coating of some unknown metal only created by the super emeralds due to their immense heat and power combined with a massive absorption of particles from the air. And that these particles are used to form said metal that is extremely magnetic but has a magnetic field presumably controlled by sonic. As for the stars that fly around him, I imagined they too have a magnetic field, but that they are used to stabilize the main one on sonic so that it doesn't get out of control and end up destroying everything around him. And that when sonic does his second jump, those stars align in the shape of a ring while switching their polarity to north or south (whichever one is opposite of Sonic's) to pull him through, so that when sonic is going through them the stars switch to whatever polarity sonic is using, so that their conflicting polarities cause sonic to be propelled through it at an incredible velocity. So basically, I imagined hyper sonic is a walking rail gun.
Over 9000 blue smarties...
This is my first time on your channel and i already love it. SUBSCRIBED
Hyper Sonic was my favorite ultimate form. I do hope it makes a return, even if they patch Sonic Mania to include it. He deserves to return.
He went the way of Shadow being a respectable character.
...Alive in our hearts.
Sega pleaseee bring it back🙏🏾🙏🏾
Hyper Sonic caused people to have seizures
Q: What do you get if you take an already overpowered Super Sonic and inject him with over 9000 blue smarties?
A: *Sonia* The Hedgehog UWU
Hypersonic feels like the SSJ4 of Dragon Ball
Why ?
@@chrono2208 they're both underrated that's why
I think they should definitely reintroduce Hyper Sonic, because the movie has definitely brought in more fans, and they probably won't play all the original games, they'll stick with the more modern stuff, meaning that many might never even HEAR of Hyper. It's so sad that Sega's just single handedly ruining their own franchise.
Well, you called it, Sonic Origins will take care of that.
It makes me tear up on how many characters with such potential are left in the dust.
0:53 LMAO Did You Draw This? I Meant To Ask
Omg I remember hyper Sonic ! That was my favorite part of Sonic 3 & Knuckles ! 💚❤️💛💙💙💜😊
I never understood SEGA's reason. If they really care that much about Sonic being similar to DB then why is Super Sonic a thing? They're denying the fans of the series the ultimate reward for the stupidest reason ever lol
To be fair,super sonic hasn't really been important since unleashed
@@windandfireproductions5358 sorry sir but generations get your facts straight
@@SAGEtheGOD01 that game barely has a story
Super sonic really isn’t that special IMO. A ton of sonic games hve super sonic as an ending.
We got Sonic Mania and that game has a Super Sonic boss fight.
the only way too make hyper sonic better is if they remove super sonic weakness
like drowing or falling in a abyss or being crushed
imagine
hyper can´t drown
when it´s fall in a abyss just fly off it
when it´s is crushed he become intangible until get out of the place
Hyper sonic has been retired
Unfortunately.
Sadly even the creators abandoned him, but at least the fans (like me) gave him a new home
Now I imagining if Hyper ever comes back for a new game, I can see a trailer where the super emeralds are teased at the end
Saiyan Scholar next try and do an explanation of Ultra Sonic from the archie comics
Right many here never heard of ultra sonic
johhnyx14 ultra sonic came out before Ultra instinct Goku
5:50 Super Saiyan was originally supposed to be white hair and red eyes, but they changed it so...
Sonic had ALREADY gone down the DB ripoff rabbit hole with the Chaos Emeralds and Super Sonic. And the Eggmobile is a copy of Freeza's hoverpod. And it's not just DB; the Death Egg is a clear Death Star parody. And Sonic and friends jump into baddies and collect 100 shiny circles for another chance at life just like the heroes of their rival franchise. Why should Sega be so worried about being seen as unoriginal only some-odd years later?!
Never even knew about hypersonic...
I'd say "Play Sonic 3&K or Sonic 3-C", however.... that is next to impossible.
I wanna see it in a New 3D sonic world, but you play only the little fat old sonic, but in 3D.
And the quest is the same of Adventure 2. Stop eggman from blastin' earth.
Like, Sonic's quest is to reunite the 7 Super chaos emeralds and enough rings, and the finally, Sonic tank the blast, and destroy eggman's moon solo
So sonic adventure 2 but just classic sonic only and super emeralds?
Why?
1:35 there was only one sonic anime, and that one was made in 2003
Why did sega do this?!
I had forgotten how spot-on this video was.
Hyper Sonic is a must on a story i'm writing, the story is about my own Fan Character but Sonic and friends gets involved with it.
I would love to have hyper sonic return. As long as they don't use it as a resting of super sonic and not give him the God like powers he had in 3&k
Hyper Sonic is the GOAT. I never played Sonic 3 & nuckles, but he was a huge part of my childhood and I still like him because of this AWESOME animation (that I used to think it was canon when I was a kid) NAZO UNLEASHED, FEATURING HYPER SONIC AND HYPER SHADIC LIKE HOLY SHIT
There is a even stronger sonic form?
HYPA!
@@SaiyanScholar SONIKKU!
Ultra Sonic, but that’s from the comics.
@@christopherb.5797 it needs to be in games, that would be a great dynamic. A 3d open world sonic game, with sonic changing forms solar sonic, eco sonic, and polar sonic respectively.
ultra
but that´s is delatable
Ik this is over a year old and I'm personally not a huge sonic fan I'm mostly here for nostalgia, but as someone who's played the original Sonic 3 and knuckles when years after it came out (I'm 14 now but I was 7 when I first played sonic 3 and knuckles) and it one of the first game I have ever played and whenever I hear some people talk about the new sonic games I always think back to hyper sonic and where he went?
Second!
Yo!
@@SaiyanScholar Hello!
I agree with everything you mentioned in this video. I really hope they bring Hyper Sonic back. It’s one of the reasons why I stopped playing Sonic.
First
Yo!
@@SaiyanScholar how's it hanging
Hyper hurts my eyes. And it now hurts, thanks to you zooming in on Hyper Sonic. You should have put an epilepsy warning.
Getting hyper sonic added like 30+hrs to that game. Little baby me had his mind blown when he saw the super emeralds and with no guides telling me what would happen when I got them all, made the reveal even better.
I would love to see more of Hyper Sonic
Hyper Sonic was without a doubt, the best transformation of Sonic, rivaling Super and Werehog Sonic. Hyper Sonic was a taste of going past the limit (Super Sonic). It felt worth it going through the process of collecting 7 Chaos Emeralds and 7 Super Emeralds to being godlike and unstoppable. All of this, and SEGA throws out one of the best things from Sonic 3 and from the franchise as a whole.
Hyper Sonic was one of those things as a kid i would rub in my friend seans face ( he was that kid on the block who owned everything, but he did not have the knuckles expansion. ) id be like " oh you can only go super, I can go HYPER in my sonic".
Man we were ruthless to each other.
Hyper Sonic achieved the m.u.i. before achieving the m.u.i. was cool.
this is the truest video on you tube x thankyou for doign this "Hyper Sonics end closed the chapter on the hard core retro gamers of the past, like a statue of Hercules an iconic symbol of excellence in 2d 16bit times" Legendry stated @SaiyanScholar
The fans keep saying it's not canon and therefore we should forget it.
But us fans will never forget
It IS canon. Those idiots don’t know what they’re talking about.
Just went though sonic 3 complete again on my retroid pocket 2 + and unlocked Hyper sonic. Forgot how stressful the blue sphere games were. Well worth it!
Yeah Hyper Sonic made either one or two appearances in the Archie comic I know one of them was when Sonic was running around with the super emeralds strapped on his back to stop robotnik's time being but he was only there for a brief moment.
Imagine hyper sonic is back oh man i think everyone will be happy