Fascinating story! It's rather difficult to transport giraffes due to their unique anatomy. My daughter is a veterinarian, and did an internship at the Philadelphia Zoo one summer. She learned a great deal on that subject.
Is it funny how humans have designed transportation to fit their own anatomy? Is it strange that we collect living beings?... then risk their well being by creating them like pianos, moving them thru multiple climates rapidly that weren't secured on the ship in the FIRST PLACE, and terrified to the point they'd prefer a box to open sky and trees. Here's another thing we learned today... The US was celebrating the opening of the Panama Canal while it's population lived on scraps and the Giraffes weren't transported thru it. Either the Zoo owners refused to wait for the opening of the canal, for the Giraffes sake, or, the Giraffes cross-Continental journey was a planned publicity stunt. I can draw lines across the ocean, too. I'm not bad at reading between the lines, putting two and two together, and washing off the candy coating. How 'bout you? Edit: I'd have rather seen an "Africa Zoo Airlines" built and have the humans suffer the journey ...and the accomodations.
With all the damage that the Long Island Express, as the Hurricane of '38 was dubbed, an interesting story of survival on the ocean and then a trip across the country to go to the San Diego Zoo. These two Giraffes deserved to be remembered.
I spend two years in San Diego. My mom had the two kids while my dad was at sea. The zoo was an affordable way to spend a day, so I have many fond memories of the zoo and carousel at the entry. Maybe a show on the carousel?
Giraffes will always be my favorite animal This one is a new story for me, surprised they even survived since they are so tall and hard to really get their attention. Also giraffes eating pancakes!
Good morning from Ft Worth TX to everyone watching. Was stationed in San Diego from 1984-89 on USS Cape Cod AD 43 and USS Kinkaid DD 965. Visited the San Diego Zoo, Sea World, and Balboa Park...
I was stationed at the Naval Hospital. The Navy had just recently built the new hospital (new in the mid-80s at least LOL!) And was using the old hospital as Barracks. Of course the building was condemned, and one of the lifts had a habit of going down rather than going up. The scuttlebutt was that it would fall which made every trip and adventure.😅
@@HM2SGT I spent a week in the old Naval hospital July 1987. Parts of the movie Like Father, Like Son with Dudley Moore and Kirk Cameron was shot in the new Naval Hospital in 1987. One of my friends was an extra in the movie.
There is a lovely piece of historical fiction based on the adventures of these giraffes called “West with Giraffes” by Lynda Rutledge. It is wonderful to hear the truth behind the story. Thank you!
Thank you Sir. I recall we went to that Zoo, when I was maybe 12 yrs old.... over 45 yrs ago. The thing that stands out in memory is them making a big, big deal about their Giraffes and me thinking that it was silly as I'd seen plenty of Giraffes in my short life. Your story here brings an answer I can't believe was answered. Wow.
It is a joy to see how you research your material to present the stories of the past to enhance our wonder of what was forgotten and then presented again. Well done, thank you ...
This was a fascinating tidbit of history. Thanks for telling us. After the end of WWII when I was about four years old my family moved to San Diego and stayed until sometime after the Korean War. I remember going to the zoo in San Diego on many Sunday afternoon’s with my family. I clearly remember these two giraffes there at the zoo. And because of these many family zoo outings the giraffes became my favorite African animal to see in any zoo I’ve ever visited.
Thanks again. My older brother had an apartment about two hundred yards from the back gate of the zoo. At night you could hear the animals calling and roaring. The lions sounded like they were right out back. It could keep you up at night and in the house.
I can’t wait to hear the podcast on this episode! I love to hear the behind the scenes stuff and little bits that didn’t make it into the video. Great video but even better RUclips channel! 👍👍
I still remember the ads saying, "you belong in the zoo, the San Diego Zoo." As a child, spent many days roaming around the the zoo and Balboa Park. I just so happened to be at zoo with my grandmother the day of the PSA crash in North Park (another one of your episodes). Thank for your good work.
I’ll add- Around that time, Balboa Park was adding a lot of the architecture that it is known for. (There are some really interesting buildings and other architecture there.)
It's nice to hear of a zoo animal story that didn't involve any abuse. Like when the female giraffe refused to leave the one place for 2 days. Back in those days, if it was just a typical farmer or zookeeper they likely woulda just cattle prodded the thing until it did what they wanted. That's how some zookeepers or animal handlers seem to operate even to this day. But it's just common sense that a happy animal is going to be a health animal. Especially if you want to breed them. And just how much they tried to cater to their every comfort despite the situation. It was a refreshing change of pace from the usual stories.
I go to the San Diego Zoo or the Safari Park at least once a month. This is a story I have never heard. I love hearing these bits of history about the city I love.
I'm from the highlands of Northeast Kingdom, up in the Notches of the White Mountains of New Hampshire, and my grandmother would talk about this hurricane and watching the chickens on the roof of the barn as it went floating along. I don't think we've really had anyting comprable in the last century. Thankfully!
@@otpyrcralphpierre1742 There's a difference though with hurricanes between flooding hurricanes and windy hurricanes in terms of how the damage is done
Highlands ? I live at a mile high elevation in the high desert of SE Oregon .Your highest Mountain is maybe 700 feet higher .And I live at the foot of a "hill" that is 6355 feet .Perspective matters .
I've read a lot about the New England Express. I never heard this story of giraffes at sea during 1938 hurricane. Considering the hurricane destruction, the giraffes were lucky to make it to port and come ashore
Has anyone experienced 120 mph winds? I stuck my hand out of the car window going 180 once it was pretty intense. I couldn't imagine standing outside with that blowing at me.
For fun you might look up Mount Washington Observatory Breakfast of Champions. There are lots of videos of people experiencing the high winds there; until recently it was the site of the highest recorded winds, 231 miles an hour in 1931. The new record was set in a Pacific cyclone! The winds on top of The Rockpile are so strong that old buildings had to be secured to the mountain with Battleship chains!
My US Navy experience began in San Diego with Basic Training and then Electrical and Electronics School, followed by Interior Communications School. I hated all of it. My only solace of my experience of San Diego was the Zoo. I visited it as often as I could and count some of its inhabitants as my long-lost friends.................
While it would’ve been far better to leave the poor things where they belong, it’s heartening to hear how many considerations and accommodations were made to keep these two giraffes comfortable and as happy as possible while they were traveling. We usually think of animals being horribly abused in the old days, and that’s an earned stereotype, but it wasn’t universal. The thought of the rhino, trapped in its crate to drown as it went overboard, is still heartbreaking.
The USDA's Animal Import Center that the giraffes stopped at operated in the Athenia section of Clifton, NJ until the 70s. I grew up nearby and would see the animals brought or walking there, even for a brief moment as they were in quarantine. Some of the buildings, barns, etc. still exist as part of the city's municipal complex and I believe are on the National Register of Historic Places.
T.H.G., 1st, I love the fact that you wear bowties, 2nd, I'm impressed by your straightforward style of delivering the (potentially obsolete, yet should be remembered) bits and pieces of history. I always find myself learning more about something I was aware of, but more often than not, learning something that maybe I'd heard about but had little to no information on.👍👍 RUclips only allows me 1 👍, so I've given some extras! 3rd, keep on doing what you are doing! Because it's awesome!
I'm a giraffe!🦒 well... I own a giraffe onesie that I have worn easily hundreds of times. and well, I promise you, if you wear a synthetic outfit resembling an animal often enough... you become closer to that animal than you have ever been before! 🖖
@@petergray7576 your comment makes me want to think of a giraffe joke based upon your... is it a pun? ... why does a giraffe make good wingman? ... they will always stick their neck out for ya. ... maybe a better idea for 'wingman'...
Thank you for this interesting bit of history that I'd not heard before... and deserves to be remembered. Plan on TWO days to see all the San Diego Zoo's exhibits! Name another zoo that is so large and fantastic as to need two full days to see it all! It really is the world's best zoo.
This story makes me think of Steam Powered Giraffe - a steampunk band of some note, who got their start busking in Balboa Park, where this story's zoo was established. David Michael Bennett, founder of the band, has always stated that he "just liked giraffes" and that his twin sister an co-founder Isabella was a fan of steampunk - so it just came together... but now I'm curious if there might be a few more tidbits to the story.
Hi History Guy: How about a video on the lose of 90% of all military records in the St. Louis repository in 1970. I believe it was a result of arson. This affects me in that my father was a combat medic in ETO. The only record of his service was the separation docs that my dad received when discharged. My understanding is veterans affairs is trying to reconstruct the records for decades as best as possible from other sources. My dad's separation papers state his path was Normandy, Northern France, Ardennes, Rhineland, Central Europe. I very much wanted to see his detailed service records. So that's when I looked into and found out about the lose of nearly all records. So I contacted them and sent them the separation papers to see if there were any more records. They replied saying thank you for submitting my separation papers and they would add them to the repository as the separation records is all they now have on my dad. So I think that would be a very interesting.
I was planning to visit the San Diego Zoo just next month. This video was so timely and interesting to watch (I especially was fascinated by the Panama Canal connection)
Back in the 80s I believe I lived in Dallas area and we heard of a flash flood in Austin.We heard an elephant couldn't be saved in time at the zoo because she was shackled and had been under water around 24 hrs . Around daylight it was discovered a trunk was above the water and she saved herself
Love these little tidbits and oddities of history that one would never learn anywhere else. ❤️
Yes it was a lovely story and has quite made my day.
Fascinating story! It's rather difficult to transport giraffes due to their unique anatomy. My daughter is a veterinarian, and did an internship at the Philadelphia Zoo one summer. She learned a great deal on that subject.
Is it funny how humans have designed transportation to fit their own anatomy?
Is it strange that we collect living beings?...
then risk their well being by creating them like pianos, moving them thru multiple climates rapidly that weren't secured on the ship in the FIRST PLACE, and terrified to the point they'd prefer a box to open sky and trees.
Here's another thing we learned today...
The US was celebrating the opening of the Panama Canal while it's population lived on scraps and the Giraffes weren't transported thru it.
Either the Zoo owners refused to wait for the opening of the canal, for the Giraffes sake, or, the Giraffes cross-Continental journey was a planned publicity stunt.
I can draw lines across the ocean, too.
I'm not bad at reading between the lines, putting two and two together, and washing off the candy coating.
How 'bout you?
Edit: I'd have rather seen an "Africa Zoo Airlines" built and have the humans suffer the journey ...and the accomodations.
I don't know where you find your stories, sir. But they always bring a smile to my face and I always learn something along the way too.
This is always a fun trip, listening to some lost history - that shouldn't be forgotten.
With all the damage that the Long Island Express, as the Hurricane of '38 was dubbed, an interesting story of survival on the ocean and then a trip across the country to go to the San Diego Zoo. These two Giraffes deserved to be remembered.
Shut up
So many things we take for granted when it comes to transport. Even today. Thank you for another good report.
Love this channel!!! It’s nice to be able to find REAL history somewhere…
What a fabulous story. Cheers from Australia.
Even though there were no Pirates involved, Giraffta love this story.
I spend two years in San Diego. My mom had the two kids while my dad was at sea. The zoo was an affordable way to spend a day, so I have many fond memories of the zoo and carousel at the entry. Maybe a show on the carousel?
Love your channel.
Always interesting
📻🙂
Giraffes will always be my favorite animal
This one is a new story for me, surprised they even survived since they are so tall and hard to really get their attention. Also giraffes eating pancakes!
Good morning from Ft Worth TX to everyone watching. Was stationed in San Diego from 1984-89 on USS Cape Cod AD 43 and USS Kinkaid DD 965. Visited the San Diego Zoo, Sea World, and Balboa Park...
I was stationed at the Naval Hospital. The Navy had just recently built the new hospital (new in the mid-80s at least LOL!) And was using the old hospital as Barracks. Of course the building was condemned, and one of the lifts had a habit of going down rather than going up. The scuttlebutt was that it would fall which made every trip and adventure.😅
@@HM2SGT I spent a week in the old Naval hospital July 1987. Parts of the movie Like Father, Like Son with Dudley Moore and Kirk Cameron was shot in the new Naval Hospital in 1987. One of my friends was an extra in the movie.
Read the Bible or you’re ignoring God, that’s the only way to heaven, said Jesus himself!
Would love to read articles from local news papers about the transit through their area of readership. What a unique experience.
A new book," West with giraffes" written by Lynda Rutledge is a Great story of their journey.
I watched a very good PBS program about the 1938 hurricane, but this is the first I’ve heard of these two giraffes. Another great video! Thank you.
With our season pass, we go to the San Diego Zoo every quarter. Awesome place and now I know how it started.
As a long-time resident of San Diego and a member of the zoological society, this story was especially interesting to me.
There is a lovely piece of historical fiction based on the adventures of these giraffes called “West with Giraffes” by Lynda Rutledge. It is wonderful to hear the truth behind the story. Thank you!
I've recently read it too, and came looking to figure out the facts behind the fictional and heartwarming story.
@@amygolly9319 me too!
Absolutely fantastic book!!!! Highly recommended!
I'm reading the book now for book club!
Have a great weekend history Guy n see ya Monday
I've been there many times; it was - for that time - an unusually comprehensive collection, with advanced naturalistic displays.
Nice episode Lance. It reminded me of my childhood growing up in the early 70s and going to the San Diego zoo.
What a lovely story. Thank you.
Really enjoy your progress/success with your channel
Thank you Lance for making this wonderful episode !
I enjoy your work so much! not only do you entertain but teach too. thankyou so much!
Thank you Sir. I recall we went to that Zoo, when I was maybe 12 yrs old.... over 45 yrs ago. The thing that stands out in memory is them making a big, big deal about their Giraffes and me thinking that it was silly as I'd seen plenty of Giraffes in my short life. Your story here brings an answer I can't believe was answered. Wow.
It is a joy to see how you research your material to present the stories of the past to enhance our wonder of what was forgotten and then presented again. Well done, thank you ...
This was a fascinating tidbit of history. Thanks for telling us.
After the end of WWII when I was about four years old my family moved to San Diego and stayed until sometime after the Korean War.
I remember going to the zoo in San Diego on many Sunday afternoon’s with my family. I clearly remember these two giraffes there at the zoo. And because of these many family zoo outings the giraffes became my favorite African animal to see in any zoo I’ve ever visited.
Joan Embery's appearances on the Tonight Show were always highlights. Interesting to hear how the San Diego zoo originated.
Hurricanes giraffes would be a good band name
Thanks
Thanks again. My older brother had an apartment about two hundred yards from the back gate of the zoo. At night you could hear the animals calling and roaring. The lions sounded like they were right out back. It could keep you up at night and in the house.
I can’t wait to hear the podcast on this episode! I love to hear the behind the scenes stuff and little bits that didn’t make it into the video. Great video but even better RUclips channel! 👍👍
It's topics like this that amaze me. something seemingly so forgotten to history, is brought to life again. Excellent research History Guy!
I still remember the ads saying, "you belong in the zoo, the San Diego Zoo." As a child, spent many days roaming around the the zoo and Balboa Park. I just so happened to be at zoo with my grandmother the day of the PSA crash in North Park (another one of your episodes). Thank for your good work.
Fascinating presentation thanks xxx
I’ll add- Around that time, Balboa Park was adding a lot of the architecture that it is known for. (There are some really interesting buildings and other architecture there.)
Giraffes are my favorite animal, so was really happy to see you have a video about them.
Thanks so much, love history and love your channel!
Thank you. I did really enjoy this episode. Wonderful pictures of giraffes ☺️. Amazing story.
It's nice to hear of a zoo animal story that didn't involve any abuse. Like when the female giraffe refused to leave the one place for 2 days. Back in those days, if it was just a typical farmer or zookeeper they likely woulda just cattle prodded the thing until it did what they wanted. That's how some zookeepers or animal handlers seem to operate even to this day. But it's just common sense that a happy animal is going to be a health animal. Especially if you want to breed them. And just how much they tried to cater to their every comfort despite the situation. It was a refreshing change of pace from the usual stories.
Thank you for the lesson
thanks
I go to the San Diego Zoo or the Safari Park at least once a month. This is a story I have never heard. I love hearing these bits of history about the city I love.
I'm from the highlands of Northeast Kingdom, up in the Notches of the White Mountains of New Hampshire, and my grandmother would talk about this hurricane and watching the chickens on the roof of the barn as it went floating along. I don't think we've really had anyting comprable in the last century. Thankfully!
Ahem....Katrina.
@@otpyrcralphpierre1742 There's a difference though with hurricanes between flooding hurricanes and windy hurricanes in terms of how the damage is done
@@otpyrcralphpierre1742 - Katrina was a category 3 storm, Andrew (1992) was cat 5 on landfall ...
Highlands ? I live at a mile high elevation in the high desert of SE Oregon .Your highest Mountain is maybe 700 feet higher .And I live at the foot of a "hill" that is 6355 feet .Perspective matters .
@@dennisriblett4622 I live in NE Oregon in the foothill of the blue and wallowa
mountains . Eastern Oregon is not Douglas firs and rain. for sure.
Dam , so comfortable listening to the history guy !
For got sore feet and work in about 8 seconds.
I always enjoy hearing stories about conservation
Like a good geologist, THG has uneartherd another fine gemstone from the annals of time.
Absolutely fascinating! Great telling of the story. I hung every word. Thanks
WHERE HAS THIS CHANNEL BEEN ALL MY LIFE
That’s a super cute story, thanks!
Wonderful story.
I've read a lot about the New England Express. I never heard this story of giraffes at sea during 1938 hurricane.
Considering the hurricane destruction, the giraffes were lucky to make it to port and come ashore
Very cool, giraffes are my favorite animals. Much appreciated!
I cannot look at a giraffe without smiling.
that was definitely worth remembering I want to see it as a movie
What a fun video. I would love to see a video about our own historic St. Louis Zoo.
Thank you for the story. It was a nice story for over my morning coffee. I do not normally watch videos until the sun goes down. I ♡ giraffes.
That's one tall tale.
Hatari movie come to mind. John Wayne riding on a fender of a truck trying to lasso a giraffe. Red Buttons laughing as he was driving the truck.
Love the story about the beginnings of my home town zoo. And the giraffes! Thank you!
Has anyone experienced 120 mph winds? I stuck my hand out of the car window going 180 once it was pretty intense. I couldn't imagine standing outside with that blowing at me.
For fun you might look up Mount Washington Observatory Breakfast of Champions. There are lots of videos of people experiencing the high winds there; until recently it was the site of the highest recorded winds, 231 miles an hour in 1931. The new record was set in a Pacific cyclone!
The winds on top of The Rockpile are so strong that old buildings had to be secured to the mountain with Battleship chains!
Skydivers fall at 120 mph. So the relative wind is 120 mph.
Worst I've ever been in is 60+ mph. The winds off Lake Erie can be brutal.
My wife and I made the mistake of not leaving for hurricane Harvey. A mistake that we will never make again.
THG really stuck his neck out with this tale from history!
Your the greatest History Guy Eva!
My suggestion is the 1967 Our World first live around the world television broadcast. The entire show is available on RUclips.
"Hey, remember that one time when we had to feed giraffes, pancakes in a hurricane?" Said no one ever.
Like James Bond, Nobody does it better!
That was a great history lesson first thing in the morning.
My US Navy experience began in San Diego with Basic Training and then Electrical and Electronics School, followed by Interior Communications School.
I hated all of it.
My only solace of my experience of San Diego was the Zoo.
I visited it as often as I could and count some of its inhabitants as my long-lost friends.................
Thanks! I love Balboa Zoo - this was a great bit of history of it.
Somewhere in the Multiverse, Tom Hanks has played one of these giraffes in an award-winning picture.
While it would’ve been far better to leave the poor things where they belong, it’s heartening to hear how many considerations and accommodations were made to keep these two giraffes comfortable and as happy as possible while they were traveling. We usually think of animals being horribly abused in the old days, and that’s an earned stereotype, but it wasn’t universal.
The thought of the rhino, trapped in its crate to drown as it went overboard, is still heartbreaking.
The USDA's Animal Import Center that the giraffes stopped at operated in the Athenia section of Clifton, NJ until the 70s. I grew up nearby and would see the animals brought or walking there, even for a brief moment as they were in quarantine. Some of the buildings, barns, etc. still exist as part of the city's municipal complex and I believe are on the National Register of Historic Places.
Maybe the Animal Import Center is history that needs to be remembered.
To this day, the giraffes at the San Diego Zoo are a visitor favorite.🦒🦒🦒🦒
I Love History!
One may say this was a Tall Tale ;)
T.H.G., 1st, I love the fact that you wear bowties, 2nd, I'm impressed by your straightforward style of delivering the (potentially obsolete, yet should be remembered) bits and pieces of history. I always find myself learning more about something I was aware of, but more often than not, learning something that maybe I'd heard about but had little to no information on.👍👍 RUclips only allows me 1 👍, so I've given some extras!
3rd, keep on doing what you are doing! Because it's awesome!
The poor Rhino!!
the Long Island Express made landfall as a Cat 3 btw
"Weathered a hurricane"
Oh jeez
Read the novel, "West With Giraffes." Highly recommend
I'm a giraffe!🦒 well... I own a giraffe onesie that I have worn easily hundreds of times. and well, I promise you, if you wear a synthetic outfit resembling an animal often enough... you become closer to that animal than you have ever been before! 🖖
Kinda sticking out your neck aren't cha?😂
@@petergray7576 your comment makes me want to think of a giraffe joke based upon your... is it a pun?
...
why does a giraffe make good wingman?
...
they will always stick their neck out for ya.
...
maybe a better idea for 'wingman'...
Thank you for this interesting bit of history that I'd not heard before... and deserves to be remembered. Plan on TWO days to see all the San Diego Zoo's exhibits!
Name another zoo that is so large and fantastic as to need two full days to see it all! It really is the world's best zoo.
When you see a giraffe in real life they are amazing.
This story makes me think of Steam Powered Giraffe - a steampunk band of some note, who got their start busking in Balboa Park, where this story's zoo was established. David Michael Bennett, founder of the band, has always stated that he "just liked giraffes" and that his twin sister an co-founder Isabella was a fan of steampunk - so it just came together... but now I'm curious if there might be a few more tidbits to the story.
That does it. I'll never look at pancakes the same way again.
Hi History Guy: How about a video on the lose of 90% of all military records in the St. Louis repository in 1970. I believe it was a result of arson. This affects me in that my father was a combat medic in ETO. The only record of his service was the separation docs that my dad received when discharged. My understanding is veterans affairs is trying to reconstruct the records for decades as best as possible from other sources. My dad's separation papers state his path was Normandy, Northern France, Ardennes, Rhineland, Central Europe. I very much wanted to see his detailed service records. So that's when I looked into and found out about the lose of nearly all records. So I contacted them and sent them the separation papers to see if there were any more records. They replied saying thank you for submitting my separation papers and they would add them to the repository as the separation records is all they now have on my dad. So I think that would be a very interesting.
Wow, calling a ship 'The Robin Goodfellow' is tempting fate.
I like to move it move it……
What? No Madagascar comments? They should have named the male Melman. 😆
Back in the Saddle Again!
Awesome info.
@ 2:32 ... George IV was king of GB in 1827.
I was planning to visit the San Diego Zoo just next month. This video was so timely and interesting to watch (I especially was fascinated by the Panama Canal connection)
Back in the 80s I believe I lived in Dallas area and we heard of a flash flood in Austin.We heard an elephant couldn't be saved in time at the zoo because she was shackled and had been under water around 24 hrs . Around daylight it was discovered a trunk was above the water and she saved herself
Memorial Day Flood of 1981. Shoal Creek flooded and swamped many businesses along Lamar St .
Of course they didn't run into any hurricanes on the way to Australia or Hawaii. The Pacific doesn't have hurricanes, they have Typhoons.....lol
Fair point
@@TheHistoryGuyChannel
You're the best in the business Sir!
So David Schwimmer's portrayal was a documentary?
NOW THATS A CHANGE BUT STILL A GOOD STORY 👍.
I Love GIRAFFE'S.
What a nightmare for that poor rhino... that's just horrible. People need to leave animals where they are if they can't 100% ensure their well-being.
I'd like to see pictures of the bus and it's journey too 🥂
Occurring in 1938, no pictures were yet in the Public Domain.