The Implications of FFXIV's New Job, Viper!
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- Опубликовано: 31 май 2024
- It's not every day someone's prediction lands so spot on, so you can dang well bet I'm going to enjoy riding this for a while. haha
But despite my victory lap, I'm very excited to see how Viper plays and what lore is waiting for us in the future! Let me know in the comments what you're most excited for in Dawntrail as well as your own predictions on FFXIV's new job, Viper!
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As soon as derplander smacked those two swords together I immediately thought
holy shit he was right. Well played, Scribe
Victory laaaaaaaaaap!
Lame fan name. In canon his name is Meteor
@@Caediae meteor is also a fan name.
@@aerialdive untrue
@@Caediae this is a weird thing to focus on
"The Viper" is one of Zidane weapons in FF9 too adding poison debuff
ugh please dont be like RPR with the DOT maintaining.
@@miqotesoulia8620why not? It’s literally just one dot every 30-60 sec. It’s incredibly manageable compressed to Sam dot lol
@@miqotesoulia8620 thats quite literally the only semi hard part of a brain dead class
@@christhagod Right? I usually swap to RPR when I don't wanna think, or I'm so goddamn tired of dying mid encounter on BLM
@@miqotesoulia8620 If you didn't play Scholar before the massive change, you no nothing about DOT fun times. They had 5 dots, and one of them was ground targeted not attached to the enemy.
Imagine if the Gabranth pose is an emote we can do as Viper. Or as a ranged attack, we can throw the blades combined and have it return to our hand like a boomerang.
Only 20$ at shop
I wish the lb3 would be innocence but thats already a move used by garleans
@@bamberscher_offiziell7261 or one of the /battlestance or /victorypose emotes that you get from MSQ. for free.
The 5 judges as a raid boss be cool
Knowing SE, it'll be the ipose
Im a sucker for transforming weapons. RDM is my primary DPS and has slowly become my main in the patches as well. So you can bet i will be there for this job xD
as an RDM main since sprout it fits with that vibe so well. like its not too flavoured like ninja where i feel like its too much of a shift for my character to just Become a ninja but also has enough character to feel different
I love RDM too. It slowly also crept and became my main dps, surpassing NIN (lack of rng makes it static)
As a Ninja main, I'm very excited to have some rogue-ish comrades to share gear with! Gives me an easy option to switch to when the whims of an encounter's timings, group composition, or just my mood wants a break.
This. Absolutely this
Same my ninja main brotha same.
Facts
Yeah man I never care for the ninja-y gear. I started as a rogue and that look was more my style so my glam options have increased exponentially whether I play this new job or not.
100% Ninja and Viper unite.
If I had to take a shot in the dark, it's possible that Viper's got their soul crystals from Mamool Ja traveling to and from Eorzea and the Tural. As you mentioned in your video about them, Mamool Ja have traveled to Eorzea and back again before, as seen in The Wanderer's Palace (Hard). It's possible that they brought back soul crystals during their expeditions. That's just my 2 cents, mind.
I’d buy it. You pick the job up in Ul’dah which is a big hub for commerce and trade. Wouldn’t be surprised if the soul crystals made their way from Ul’dah to La Noscea where we see Mamoola Ja and from there to the new world and back
As seen in bronze lake
The Viper stance is also a direct reference to FFXI dual wield! I'm so excited to try it out when it releases 😎
Specifically the Elvaan DW stance, which is replicated with the Elezen Viper on display. It wouldn't surprise me to know that Vipers of the other races that have an analogue in XI share the same stances when those races dual wielded swords.
I’m glad you were right ! Did you know that in FF9 if you select the weapon Rune Tooth (One of Zidanes weapons) of you press Select to have data on the Rune Tooth it says : Also known as “The Viper”.
That's such a deep cut even I didn't remember that. xD
This could open up the possibility of one of the viper weapons being named "Rune Teeth" as a nod to FF9.
@@volticarchwing5123Just remember that the deluxe edition of each expansion comes with a cosmetic weapon for one new job. RDM for SB, Squall's gunblade for ShB, and a special scythe for RPR.
@@SynodicScribewanna try to predict the new casting job my friend ? I believe in you ! Haha
@@cebsvartberg3143 there arent that many left to be honest. we already have RDM, BLM, WHM, SCH, AST, SMN, SGE. BLU. Each having elements of previous games casting classes. Only things left I can think of are Oracle, Orator, Psychicer, Warmage/Magic Knight, Green Mage (though its a stretch if this would even be functional), Runeseeker, Illusionist, Elementalist, and a small handful of jobs that were cannibalized into other jobs down the road. As cool as Time Mage and Geomage would be they are already in 14 in some way.
If you're curious, the french name is slightly different. It is called "Rôdeur Vipère" (or in english would be Viper Ranger or Ranger Viper. Rôdeur/ranger there seems to be more like the vibe of an aragorn I feel than a park ranger) kind of like Dragoon is called Chevalier Dragon, or Dragon Knight
Or just call them Dragoon and Viper. Simple.
@@KhyrisEidanfrench is a very complicated language
You know, this makes sense. Viper does give me D&D Ranger duel-wield vibes.
@@cryw1092 Gives Groh vibes, from SCVI.
@@cryw1092 I’ve been playing a dual-wielding ranger in BG3 and then this happens. My ranger-loving heart is overflowing.
I want to put out one more old Square Enix game that had dual blade called a Swallow in CHRONO CROSS. Cross also came out within a year of FF9.
My reason for mentioning it is mainly that the main character, Serge, uses one. And Cross takes place in a tropical archipelago which is a bit on the nose for this expansion. Not to say that it will be the inspiration for Viper, but just to not doubt it’s possibility for influence.
Another note is that Viper is the name of an antagonist/playable character in Chrono Cross. And swords were his weapon of choice.
I think there is also another meaning. From paladin to viper the difference is just the off hand basically, once wol does not have to protect anyone for sometime, more attack power will make future challenges easier.
Idk i would think taking less damage would make things easier in adventures. At least thats my own head canon
@@zedorian6547 we are literally adventuring for fun now, two swords to add to the challenge of fighting for fun.
@@zedorian6547 i meeeean if you are going for adventures into jungles and shit , going in full plate is not a good idea ( assuming they would have to lore wise deal with rust , water sections , traveling light to be able to carry more tools and food , etc )
The plate mail probably helps too :D
@@evans178 Assuming dark matter isn't just there for fluff, it's what we use to repair gear by reversing its worn state to back when it was more pristine.
I was hoping for corsair so badly. Sword and pistol combat is the highest of fantasies for me
Noones really mentioned that snake(viper) in the artwork , I wonder if we'll get a living shadow like snake in the form of a DoT(Venomous Bite) or just something in the form of a snake in its toolkit
You know, I just realized Viper could have some poison skills, since Ninja doesn't have them anymore.
Congrats on getting it right. 🧡 My heart skipped a beat when Derplander connected those blades.. Definitely looking forward to this one.
Thanks buddy! We've a lot of interesting things building up so far in Dawntrail!
I'm correct about a lot of things. Please be more specific 😂😂
Indeed!
I'm glad you were right about Viper, but I hope you're wrong about the next class. My dream is for a Songstress-like caster class from FFX-2 to complete the trio: Dancer, Bard, and Spellsinger
We already have bard doing the music and song bit. There's not gonna be another similar class. I sure as hell hope not anyway.
What was his second guess?
I have to wonder what you think a bard is
a Bard already sings, if you didnt know
I just wish BRD and DNC had better synergy
Viper is my new main. I have been hoping for a class like viper since Shadowbringers. I was telling my friends that a class like this was coming to the game even though I lost hope at endwalker when reaper was revealed. when I saw the first trailer I knew it was a dual swordsman and when my friends were saying corsair I was telling them that people only thought that because they saw a boat in the trailer. So being right when I've been told I'm wrong so many times feels awesome 😂.
As the two swords came together, I was hooked! Good on you for divining that, Scribe!
this has nothing to do with the video, but I just wanted to say, I have been binge-watching all your videos recently and absolutely love your style. I really like how all your lore videos are framed as lectures from a professor in-universe, it feels so immersive.
my WoL never received an education and really knew nothing about the world before becoming an adventurer, but the more she travelled, the more she was amazed by all the places and people she saw. it’s my headcanon that now that she finally has some time to herself (I very recently finished 6.0), she’s taking your classes to learn more about the world she’s spent so much time traveling and working to save.
that little addition of RP flavor adds so much to my enjoyment of these videos.
I'm glad you've been enjoying the lore! Here's hoping we can learn even more together in Dawntrail!
As a ninja main, I'm excited to be able to dual class
Hell yeah!
I’m picking it up IMMEDIATELY. I LOVE polearms and dual blades like this so the fact it can be joined is chefs kiss! Reminds me of dual bladed lightsabers too. It has me tempted to rewrite one of my ocs backstories and will be the perfect canon job for another 😩🙏 This is everything I wanted the rogue/ninja job to be. So so excited!
polearm is a long staff with a sword on the end or a spear. Glaive is usually the name for a double-bladed sword
@@claudijatzandrapova3347 Glaives (or glaves) are within the polearm family! They’re a bit similar to naginatas and a handful of other bladed polearms 💕
@@erraticrhapsody4599 it usually looks more a double-bladed sword though Krull and recently Predator in movies, Warframe in games- call a spiked throwing disc like weapon a glaive too. TERAs Valkyrie does have it more a double-headed naginata. I guess it just depends on the source and what inspired them
@@claudijatzandrapova3347 Oh! I didn’t know that; that’s interesting! Makes me wonder why they went that route. I’ve not played Warframe in yeaars so not super familiar with all the weaponry. Very neat!
And based on the t-shirt we saw Yoshi P wear I'm convinced that the Magic DPS is a combination of Pictomancer and green mage
I'm not seeing this happening, yet I kinda am?
I mean, both of these jobs are both amongst the rarest and most niche in the franchise, plus- green mage is such a strict support that you have to change it in some way to make it a DPS class
@@Konpekikaminariwouldn’t be the first time. Astrologian was derived from a single npc in ff tactics that used a single move and that’s it.
I've seen some negativity about the job being "boring" or "lazy", but as a fan of both Rogue over Ninja, Assassin's Creed and of course FFIX, I couldn't be more happy!
It remains to be seen if Viper can make me change "main" from Reaper, but the initial impression is more than positive!
How can anyone say that about something we have literally seen, like, 5 out of context skills for?
@@RockR277
Fans of anything are generally quick to judge and slow to ponder
@@RockR277 On the surface, job fantasy-wise, it's pretty standard and generic. Doesn't mean they can't make the actual mechanics of it unique, however.
I think the weapon is great. We don't have enough lore on the job to know if it's bland. But the job armor, to me, does look boring and bland.
@@RockR277 Yeah... we've seen like four or five animations out of how many for an average job? :D
I am BEYOND happy that you were right scribe. I had convinced myself that it would be Corsair due to its popularity but when I saw Yoshi P with those blades, I had to pinch myself. I’m always a twin blade dex build in Elden ring and I’m so happy my favorite class will finally be in my favorite game.
Side note, as a current DNC main, I’m eager to hear more about my lore. Til next time scribe
Just because the greater Allagan empire never made it over to the new world, doesn't mean a small contignency of explorers couldn't have. The Vikings made it over to America(Vinland) hundreds of years before Columbus ever even knew of it. My theory is that the whole story of Dawntrail will take us to discover that the remnants of the Allagan empire still very much exists in the form of the descendents of those explorers, the golden city might actually just be the last remaining Allagan city.
oh dear god i'm so happy you were right, i love twinblade/quarterstaff weapons so i'm so happy to see Viper making it in. IDK if it'll dethrone Ninja as my melee of choice but i seriously hope it does
Also, listening to the general gameplan of Vipers in lore, that's a perfect fit for my WoL's style so i REALLY hope i end up loving Viper...actually i might make it my primary melee even if i don't end up liking the playstyle
I was one who guessed Corsair but Viper is definitely quite neat! I was more-so guessing that one was unique and one would likely be the "fresh twist on old job" thing, but didn't know which one would be that- I was thinking the CASTER was going to be the unique job and bet that they were gonna switch it up after Reaper.
Oh well, at least it's VERY fitting for my Miqo'te alt, who was partially inspired by Zidane.
You can already wear his outfit, too...
Corsair was such a low iq guess 😂
@@omensoffate No guess regarding the sword was a dumb guess.
I hope one of the Viper questline involves fighting an echo of Ravana of some sort.
You called it.
>Has a class that uses a scythe as a weapon
>Has a class that uses a gunsword
>has a class that uses magically returning glaives
"In case you think the idea of a double-blade sword is ludicrous"
IIRC dual blades like that also have the problem IRL in that it's much, much harder to align the edge with your target so you're more likely to slap someone with the flat of the blade rather than actually striking them properly. Not a problem is you have a magical omnidirectional blade like a lightsaber, not so much with real steel.
Back in na fanfest my friend had guessed assassin, but it would be cool if these were ancient assassins turned hunters. But I'm excited to learn more about this job!
Very excited about Viper! It is the fighting style I was sort of hoping that Rogue would turn into, not Ninja. It felt weird to go from scrappy pirate fellow with my lil daggers to suddenly doing Naruto handsigns and summoning frogs. I'm excited for another 'rogue' fighting style that actually feels like it fits thematically.
Havent kept up to date on ffxiv since i took a break a while ago, do we know if the other new class going to be ranged or caster dps?
4 months late you probably already know bit I'll still say it caster dps
When I saw the viper job reveal, I immediately thought of Zidane too. However, thinking about it made me think about the warrior from FF3 where you can duel wield weapons and sacrifice defense for more dmg. also in FFTA, the ninja job gives you access to duel wielding feat. So I am excited to see what the moves are called and if it'll reference anyone's moves.
Viper's cool, I guess. If its gauge spenders don't have a snake motif, or at the very least make snake noises, I'm going to be upset.
I think this job's name may draw on the concept we see in Chinese Kungfu styles, of which, there is the Animal Kungfu style of the Snake. The wording of the soul crystal being that of a "hunter" would indicate it is a STYLE of swordsmanship rather than a particular type of combat job. It is my speculation that there is more than one style of twinblade combat on Etherys. This would be better determined by the lore surrounding the job though, so I will leave it as mere speculation. But if the job was taught by the Mamool'jaa, there could be other styles specific to the clans within the New World. But again - speculation.
Didnt expect shad to be mentioned here, nice
A twinblade / Darth Maul job is what I wanted, so I'm happy. I don't know about the name, but perhaps it will make sense with the lore.
Hey synodic is there any resources or videos explaining why save the queen won’t get continued? I was hearing from some content creators that they always get sad when people mentioning it and was wondering why is the case?
They had a gabranth end credits scene too and I was like oh we are gonna fight him next time??!
Because it's Matsuno's story. And he hadn't been tapped to continue the story. So, he finished it himself in the Field Notes.
I assume if Yoshida decides to pick that hanging thread with Lyon, they'll ask Matsuno to come back to finish it.
oh shit he finsihed it in the field notes god damn gotta read them though but that sucks :( @@SuperRamos619
One thing I just recalled (as I haven't been too long restarting FFXIV) is that the concept of the pole arm is referenced in ARR when choosing Lancer/Dragoon as your starting job. As such: FFXIV devs could have given players the option of choosing Dragoon or Viper at level 30(?) and could have created a job quest storyline that could have given the history & lore of Viper. While I understand why they probably didn't take this route: it could have been an option.
At this point I also want to know how did you figure it out? Do you have a source inside Square Enix?
Dual wielding and twin blades are also one of my favorite fantasy things so I’m 100% picking up Viper ASAP
I agree with ya! As soon as I saw Viper, I immediately thought of Zidane Tribal & FF9! I love your Lore vids, please keep them coming! I am excited for the other job reveal! I hope it is Green Mage, Druid, Geomancer or a Hybrid of them all! I'd love a shapeshifting job which is in in FFTA as Morpher, but I doubt it! I think the new Limited Job will be Beast Hunter! They may make it similar to Blue Mage with the Arena thing! We will also farm for certain Monsters out in the world! We may even have a Monster Logbook like the Blue Mage book! I'd love for our Islands to be able to be used for Beast Master Monster care, but I doubt that too!
I think it's one of those cases of "There are so many options, so looking at them, you have a good chance of getting them right eventually". :) But it does feel good to be right, does it not? : )
The confusing thing to me is the official forums hating on it (but that seems to be the norm there). Also, shout out to Shad, pretty great channel. The main reason I didn't predict this one (yet - I figured it'd come EVENTUALLY) was I didn't think they'd ever do another "2 new DPS Jobs" expansion after the SB que fiasco (and NIN before it...). But here we are! : ) LOVE FF9 here!
I couldn't be more stoked for this. The aesthetic is amazing and I'm thrilled for a 2nd tech/dex job.
You want my theory about soul crystals in general? My theory is that they're basically the same kind of tech as the constellation crystals we found in shadowbringers. I think the Allagans got knowledge about soul crystals from the ascians, and the ascians probably also had some involvement with the new world at some point in the history of the world, and just concentrated their efforts where we're familiar.
Or maybe soul crystals are way more recent there. BLU storyline already paints the picture that we'd be far from the first to visit.
Lightning from FFXIII also uses this weapon when her eidolon Odin is active!
I'm not gonna lie, I'd always been doubtful of Corsair more because Viper feels like something Rauhbon would have as a base until he lost his arm. He was a gladiator that became part of the Syndicate and the starting location of Ul'dah kinda makes me hope that this prediction is actually somewhat right.
And every fight I remember him having in ARR he was encased in a red aura or was that potato slicing just that impactful
i initially thought it would be corsair as well but thought it would feel like a non magical red mage. so seeing viper was a welcome surprise. part of me still holds out hope for a mix/grenade focused someday (think rikku from ffx)
A curious thought entered my head while re-watching the new teaser:
We're dueling who I assume is the Autarch Gulool Ja Ja, and he too wields twin blades as his choice of weapon for the fight. Could the Autarch himself be trained in, or at least be aware of, the Viper Style? Or is his dual-wielding just a convenient mirror to him being blessed siblings?
Wondering what their thought process are.
Corsair was assumed due to they might integrate FFXI relevance further into FFXIV (which they did with the upcoming alliance). But I guess they wanted to make a homage for FFIX like it was with Gunbreaker.
Welp, that's okay. I guess I can wait for that Sword x Musket job.
As someone who LOVES dualswords in videogames and used them in the last MMO i played before switching to 14, you cannot IMAGINE the hype I felt seeing the dual swords viper is going to have cause I keep complaining to my friends that im not into the 'sneaky goblin' gameplay of Ninja.
I can't believe the people who guessed we were getting Ninja again were right
I honestly am so happy with Vipers inclusion. I realized I wanted a class like it from your video in fact. However I thought it'd be fitting as our next tank class. Evasion tanking isn't in XIV and I understand why, but having the aesthetic of it would be cool. But Viper as a DPS fits perfectly.
I've seen a lot of theories on the casting job, but I personally have nothing in mind. So I'll just throw some of my ideas out for even further away future jobs. Geomancer I think will probably be our next healer provided they don't do something new. Related in a sense, I think of having the aesthetic of a mage being a tank, using spells to create barriers and fortify their body so they don't take damage would also be an interesting addition and relative fresh air to the current tanks aesthetic of being armored and/or bulky. My final idea, is another type of caster. I love Red Mage myself but I know for some it doesn't entirely capture the spell and sword aesthetic, so Rune Fencer I think would work well.
The moment I saw the trailer, my first thought was, "Synodic Scribe is going to have an absolute field day with this one."
Hope I didn't disappoint. haha
NGL after awhile I was expecting Corsair since the more I thought about it the more it made sense WoL would be a new sword to match the "theme" of the trailer. I was just expecting a Sword/Pistol dual wield
I just wanna poitn out that in the comment of that video, I wrote that a way the way it could work iwas that you'd shift between the twin blades and cash the bigger damage with a combined blade stance. by the looks of it, I may have been on the money about that...
5:02 It's pronounced Zih-DAHN. We know this from the Dissidia games. Though their stories aren't canon, the pronunciations of characters' names are.
I am going through and watching all of your videos from oldest to newest and I have to give you credit. You went from a shy boyish video maker to a confident creator of exeptional content. I hope you continue to make lore videos and not only RP stuff. While I don't mind dipping my toe in RP, I wouldnt want to drown in it. May you ever walk in the light of the crystal master Scribe.
Zidane !!!!!!! I’m so excited!!!! And I’m so EXCITED!!! IM PRAYING WE GET A WEAPON IN THE TIER LIST CALLED “Mage Masher!!!”
I think it's an understandable more combat-oriented variation on Zidane's thief, but the memory buff could mean a lot of things. Is it Aura like you said, or closer to Trance? Maybe it's a connection to FXII Judges instead, with Quickenings explicitly relying on energy accumulated multiple times the body's normal limits.
Still waiting to see how it works out with the lore. First hypothesis is that they were originally hunters as stated, but instead of dying out like the reapers, they shifted towards more arbiter and executioner roles, becoming the Judges. It became too ritual to really need full combat prowess, but their historical roots were still plenty effective.
I don't get the Job System in FFXIV, not played it but is it just like you can be any class you want with 1 character and eventually you have every class max level? or you have to make a new character for each "Job" like in WoW for example.
You're able to play every job on 1 character. It's as easy as unlocking the job and slapping its weapon into your main hand. For example, I've everything maxed out on my main character.
as a person who levels all jobs, i will definitely be playing Viper. i was hoping 9 would get a more direct nod in terms of classes, being one of my favorite FF games lol! it looks like it's going to be a fun job, and i can't wait for Dawntrail even more now!
I already have all jobs capped, and Viper will be no exception to this rule. Time will tell how good it is, but it at least looks stylish.
You forgot about the blue Mamooja in the Crystal Tower. So more than likely, Allag has been to The New World.
They showed off the weapons as a Blonde Miqo'te too which I feel was a nod to Zidane.
This will be as close to a Swallow as I can get ( Serge from Chrono Cross). So i will take it. Looking forward to learning this.
I am definitely picking up Viper when early access comes out for Dawntrail. To me, Viper has big MH dual blades energy. While MH's dual blades don't combine together into a polearm, they do focus on a battle dance of sorts that shifts into "demon mode" when channeled that unleashed a flurry of hard hitting attacks. I wouldn't be surprised if Viper has poison dots that it must keep up, though from the revealed info we've gotten it may just be purely physical. I just hope that it has a ranged attack option and isn't like MNK who just sits in a corner trying not to cry when they can't be near a boss.
FF9 was one of the biggest games for me when growing up. It was the first final fantasy I bet and the characters really stuck with me through the years. I plan to main viper and was so excited to see it. I'm wondering if you like said they might use auras or maybe a trance mode. I seriously can't wait :)
I am more of a caster player and interested in seeing what the new Caster has to offer. Just hoping it's not as simple as New Summoner, and not taxed as Red Mage, being somewhere in the output of Black Mage and the other 2 casters. Also I hope to see more caster option after 8.0 (since it would be likely that a range job would be next plus either a tank or healer of some kind).
obviously it would be a tank.
Hat tip for being right. I actually requested this weapon over a year and a half ago. Was happy to hear others doing the same and overjoyed we actually got it. 🍻
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Viper is a pretty common name for a twin sword class. Referencing the speed and two fangs of the animal. They often also incorporate poison but not always
If we get Green Mage as the other Magic DPS (who generally specialize in Buffs and Debuffs) I could definitely see DoTs as a main theme for this expansion. Viper itself could maybe have DoT effects at the end of their combos.
i doubt it dude considering how Square has been basically removing dots from the game for the past 5 years. take for example how healers used to have 2 or even 3 Dots and now they all have 1. SMN that was considered a DOT job has nothing now so wouldnt make sense to add a "dot job" when in the past we actually had those but square decided to get rid of them.
@@Rataldo20 I agree with you but this is also the same dev team who in shadowbringers took a lot of healer damage buttons away said they didnt want healers focusing dps, then made sage a healer who uses Kardia to heal through dps lol.
Very happy about seeing a class with twinblades, will probably not change to viper tho as i don't like to play dps really but i am very happy as i recently started playing ff9 which is working its way towards being my favourite ff game and as well as ff12 with characters like gabranth which makes me really happy about the fact that we get twinblades.
Also the fact that ravana has twinblades is very cool as ravana is one of my favourite primals/eikons in ffxiv
The aura effect Viper has in the trailer almost looks like boosting in the Bravely Default and Octopath games. The quick attack even looks like Godspeed strike from Bravely to me.
I'll definitely be picking up Viper soon--probably before I bring Ninja to cap. I haven't been particularly compelled by the Ninja's mechanics; it's the wrong mix of memorization and fiddly gameplay for me. Viper sounds like it might be my inroad to enjoying the "Dexterity melee" subrole--and who knows, if it's good enough, it might become my favorite melee job, since I don't really have one right now. (Reaper comes closest, but it's still pretty distant.)
Also: Are you sure that the Allagans never conquered the New World? It's been made abundantly clear that Xande was able to conquer everything except Meracydia during his natural lifetime. It would be a really shocking error for the game to treat Meracydia as the one and only thing that stopped his globe-spanning ambition when two whole other continents went completely untouched. It always seemed to me like the New World was more of an afterthought conquest--in that era, it was relatively undeveloped, and perhaps even uninhabited across large swathes, since the Third Calamity, Fire-aspected, brought about horrendous drought _after_ people had already engaged in witch hunts, religious pogroms, and outright genocide. It might have been used exclusively for farmland or resource extraction, or as a place for bored nobles and the idle rich to go hunting dangerous prey, which could potentially link up with the Viper class! We've also seen some pretty heavily technological teaser images, which look very Allagan, not Imperial, doubly so with the reveal of the Eliminator with all its gold and gems and such.
I would of course yield if you have a citation or the like that you can point me toward--I certainly don't have your expertise or breadth of reading (having never actually read the Encyclopedia Eorzea books.)
Yoshi in the shadows, scribbling notes: "...ooh thats a good idea."
I'd really love it if the job mentor was actually just a Mamool Ja rather than one of the core races, it'd let the quests stand out a lot more similarly to the beginning of Black Mage.
Ima park in Uldah to get Viper the same way I did for Reaper. I can't wait to see how Viper compares to Fighter from PSO2. I'm already using Twin Daggers and Dual Saber so it'll be fun to see how similar/different those weapons are in a FFXIV style.
People trying to validate the realism in a fantasy game while I'm just trying to figure out where the creative unorthodox fantasy classes are instead of having different variations of person with sword, person with sword and shield, person with bigger sword, person with big sword that explodes, and person with miltiple swords, it's like the iPhone the next job will probably be 3 swords.
Quick, what's the not-green-mage mage class gonna be?
The music choice for this reveal was *chef’s kiss*. Good call Scribe!
I was waiting for this video as soon as I saw the trailer
Considering i havent had an urgency to play of late and a ninja main the whole time i have played, im pretty sure i will pick up Viper straight away and it will become my new main and play Dawntrail with that. Hopefully enough to bring back the joy of playing for hours on end again
There is precedence due to the MCH and their relatively new to the world job that soul crystals can be made.
So it is not a stretch to say that the allagans did not have a monopoly to it.
And due to the Blue Mage job we already knew that there are soul crystals in the New World.
So whatever the story on that note is for Viper, it is not a stretch to say their soul crystals can be either new or old, and maybe they even have a way to make them over there.
While Zidane didn't transform his weapons in FF IX proper, it is interesting that he had two types of weapons. He had dual dagger/blade options as well as the conjoined thief sword weapons separately even if he didn't join them.
I feel like the style changes between dual blade and glave forms will be similar to star captain from inkbound when it's first activated it'll have a greater boost at the beginning but after staying in said style for too long will lose the effect of it forcing players to find the most efficient way to style between dual and glave styles without losing the style shift buff at all
Wouldn't surprise me too much if the matter of the Soul Crystal was resolved simply as two independent instances of the same idea ocurring in different parts of the world. It happens IRL, after all!
I have no idea if Ascians had a hand in leading Allag to develop Soul Crystals but if they did, that could also explain how the same technology might appear on the other side of the world like that.
I feel like if it's a traditional hunting job passed down in Tural, it's gotta be related to the Hrothgar, possibly Viis and a few other of the jungle tribes/races. It would make sense to be if the Viper job master or at least the one who introduces us to it, were to be a Female Hrothgar, or a Male Viera hailing from the continent of Tural. Many of the inspirations for Tural seem to be South American. And one of the popular names of a warrior elite group of hunters was the Jaguars. They're pretty interesting if you look them up, VERY brutal, but I can see how the name "Viper" could be chosen if they were looking to vicious predatory hunter animals in South America.
I was really hoping it would be corsair, but this seems really cool as well
To add to the Zidane connection, I’m pretty sure most of his thief swords have to be made via item synthesis by combining two daggers. So it’s all there.
And Zidane have duel blade called (the viper)
I would say that dual blades came to play in ffxiv with Raubhan. Even tho he was posed as a gladiator, and lost his arm, they didn’t put to much thought of it unles it came to bosses after that
I love swords, pirates, weapons that fuse, flurries of attacks.. This may be my my new favorite job, I am hoping they give us a wide type of blades, I'd love to use dual kopesh, or scimitars
Though i was hopeful for something like Corsair, the playstyle of Viper makes me thrilled as a God Eater 3 player.
To those curious, God Eater 3 brought in the new dual blades weapon to the series, which came with a combination of the two blades to turn it into a polearm, adding a fresh coat of paint to an otherwise ordinary weapon archetype
When Dawntrail comes out I am going to try out viper. Depending on how it plays I may level it first but if I don't like it as much I can always do dancer.
It's speculation, but there's always the possibility Ravana was their interpretation of that four armed magitech robot in Azys'la. Or a modle variant that did use the dual blades/saber as part of its arsenal. The Allagans would have had the global reach at the time. Anyway it's just a old theory based on how summoning worked.
Im hoping Viper (VPR?) May have poison skills, making it stand out as it can have DoTs thats used to fuel burst skills, kinda like a melee version of oldschool Bard/Summoner
A year before Final Fantasy IX came out, in Chrono Cross, Serge used a dual-bladed weapon.
Was hoping Dancer would be the second DEX melee back in the run up to Shadowbringers, but better late than never. Looks like it could be fun, and it means my scouting gear isn't limited to one job.