To be honest. Downgrade because of the number? No. It's all about performance. 7+ Gen 2 is more efficient and powerful than 870. You should check it one more time....
Yeah man they are flagship processors at the end of the day for me. They perform very well but the main thing I don’t like are the displays and speakers imo
I have F3 6GB 128GB & my Poco F5 8GB 256GB came yesterday. Side by side, with manual max brightness & same colour profile (Vivid) in direct light F3 is slightly more brighter. F3 has better speakers, F5 sounds hollow, not worried about the back as I use a case. I can see improvements in the camera departments for the F5, better autofocus, better details, no stutter in video, OIS and less noise in lower lights. I'm glad the jack is back. I'm glad I didn't pay extra for the Pro, as I don't really require the extra performance. Overall I'm happy with the phone, as I paid only £268.23 for F5, F3 I paid £249.74 2 years ago, so actually F5 is cheaper due to inflation.
Pro performance is just an added boost if you ask me. F5 and Pro got 1 Mil+ antutu scores which is pretty much on par. edit* added performance means, it consumes more power means less battery life
@@kodaph Pro does get better GPU, better IS, screen etc, so those will make a difference for gamers or photo/videographers. On the technical side that no one mentions is the ram is only 2x16 BIT whereas most flagships would use 4x16, not sure how much that would make a difference on day to day basis though.
I Use F3 8/256 and F5 8/256. Sounds is slightly better on Poco F3, screen is very nice on the both. Video recording is much better and stability on F3, but Poco F3 is limited on 8 minutes 4K video, Poco F5 is not limited on that way.
THE REAL POCO F5 CONS reviewers would not mention • *Camera* - there's no life in night shots or when taking a photo in the dark esp in pitch black scenes as the camera flash does not help at all. The flash is lacking in brightness. It seems like a dual LED flash but, it's ONLY single flash LED. (Look closely) • *Speakers* - No bass at all. It's pointless to have Dolby Atmos. Changing tweaking settings does not help as well. It sounds like an old radio. Dual cheap speakers. (Poco X3 GT sounds way way better) • *Display* - the Amoled panel is less vibrant, the colors are soft and having HDR10+ is nothing as this doesn't help as much. Colors are pale-looking as compared to Redmi Note 10S (less expensive phone) Hey brothers, this is not hating or anything, I am just telling you the cons I have noticed so far, so you won't regret buying this phone or spending your hard-earned money. Skip this phone if all I mentioned bothers you or concerns you. If you only care about Snapdragon 7+Gen2 ... then, everything will be OK for you.
Regarding the brightness, the Poco F3 can only reach 1300 nits when watching HDR content, otherwise it maxes out at only 716 nits on auto. Apparently the max brightness on the F5 is 963 nits on auto, so technically it's brighter when out in the sunlight. Data is from GSM Arena. For manual brightness it's 511 nits on the Poco F3 and 470 nits on the Poco F5. Maybe that is the difference you can see?
Could be could be. Just a shame I don't have the F3 with me anymore but I don't remember having issues with the brightness on that as much as with the F5. Or could be just due to my eyes 👀
I feel like you are the first 🥇 reviewer to ever point out some cons. Props for being honest. I don't like the idea that reviewers holding back the cons esp those who got their review units. 😢 I don't like this trend.
I can see no reason to upgrade my poco f3.. Any improvements are minimal... I'd expect much more after 2 year's.. Perhaps we've reached a point of diminished return's?
My F3 broke beyond repair. After watching this, I don't feel like upgrading to this phone. The screen is a big deal to me, and I'm not switching back to IPS LCD. What would you recommend?
i kinda feel like u are expecting too much from this f5 with such price. and some cons that u mentioned aren't even that make sense. its fast charging but u have to bring.the charger around? which phone can charge 67W with pkwer bank or random charger that u founf on a street? 6:30 but still, thanks for ur honest review, i really appreciate ur content as many others are sponsored and apparently u aren't, which is good bc u can give real honest opinion on this phone. thanks alot and keep it up!
Thanks man. Nah I was expecting a lot from poco because they always tend to deliver and the F3 was such an awesome phone so was expecting this to do so too... Back to the charging, yeah you have to bring the charger that is given to fully enjoy the 67w.. Other phones like Samsung or iPhones can have have their 'fast charging' with a normal powerbank. Just my 2 cents
This boy is mad preaching hate on f5. I literally have the f3 silver 256gb and now bought the white f5 as my main. All the upgrades are minimal but they still are upgrades. Go buy the f5, bros. Also, f series is not camera centric. F3 has its premium feel f5 has its modern lighter feel.
@@ramverma7429 if you nitpick yes, it's a little dim but I'm not disabled. I can just crank the brightness slider easily. It's just 350 usd for many things to nitpick which is just absurd. I do have 12tpro as a company phone since we do landscaping projects but I use f5 more both work and personal. I do not need a camera centric phone. I know what I look like.
did you set the color scheme in saturated and adjust the color temperature a bit to more blue tone.... that will help a lot to improve the color & contrast of the display...
Ive got the F2 pro since it was released and its still rocking as from day 1 and was thinking of upgrading to the F5. Im more for the gaming so i guess its a good idea due to the processor. What do you think and thanks, sending you good vibes from Portugal 😊
U mean it's better to buy f4 gt ? But in f4 gt there is heating issue so it is main issue for mre to play games like PUBG but in F5 i don't care about those issue to play games. But i still want your opinion
I honestly didn't face a lot of heating issues with the F4 GT when playing games but then again I'm not a huge gamer. For me, when I was playing stuffs like pubg and Codm on the F5, the sound was really soft for me to hear anything good and the brightness was really too low for my liking
Also there is one major point althought doesn't impact the function but it does impact the overall look/feel. The front camera cutout is like much bigger than the ones on Poco F3. They used to be so small and thin even beating other flagships and phones. They used to be so proud of it. Not sure why they removed that. End of the day yes the performance is definitely better than 870 but 870 is enough for my use and battery is still good for 6-7hrs SOT for me even after 2 years of F3. So gonna stick with it for next upgrade and see what Poco has to bring to the table. Its nice to see they brought back the headphone jack and finally bringing OIS to budget range phones.
Larger hole punch sensors are for better selfie cams. I'd rather have a bigger selfie cam sensor and get quality selfies than still have a hole punch, but have it be too small and produce sub par photos.
How did you made the double tap on hime screen to turn off? Mines not working, only the double tap to turn on. Also the most disapponting thing for me on the f5 is the screen color calibration. Not sure if its just the calibration of the vivid setting ,or is a bug or something, but tbe colors looked washed out on the vivid settings, when i try saturated its a bit oversaturated for me. Hopefully they can fix it on the next update.
The matte version feels nice in hand tbh and doesn't feel cheap. I agree the black version does look cheap and wouldn't recommend that. It's a shame about the speakers though.
Well u gotta expect its a very cheap phone that performs like a flagship.. so other components such as speakers or screen wont be as good as a flagship phone that cost 800-1000$
I still use Mi Mix 2s. Aside from the battery which drains quite faster now. It still holds up. Thought about upgraing with this, but I thibk ill pass at the moment.
Excellent honest review my opinion on this brand and phone is bad the experience is not good Poco brand have a untrustworthy reputation I wouldn't buy Poco branded phone's myself
To be honest. Downgrade because of the number? No. It's all about performance. 7+ Gen 2 is more efficient and powerful than 870. You should check it one more time....
Yeah man they are flagship processors at the end of the day for me. They perform very well but the main thing I don’t like are the displays and speakers imo
@@DrHamezTechknowing the price we have to realise its supposed to be.
For gaming yes its win
But honestly all component are some issues
I have F3 6GB 128GB & my Poco F5 8GB 256GB came yesterday.
Side by side, with manual max brightness & same colour profile (Vivid) in direct light F3 is slightly more brighter.
F3 has better speakers, F5 sounds hollow, not worried about the back as I use a case.
I can see improvements in the camera departments for the F5, better autofocus, better details, no stutter in video, OIS and less noise in lower lights.
I'm glad the jack is back.
I'm glad I didn't pay extra for the Pro, as I don't really require the extra performance.
Overall I'm happy with the phone, as I paid only £268.23 for F5, F3 I paid £249.74 2 years ago, so actually F5 is cheaper due to inflation.
Pro performance is just an added boost if you ask me. F5 and Pro got 1 Mil+ antutu scores which is pretty much on par.
edit* added performance means, it consumes more power means less battery life
@@kodaph Pro does get better GPU, better IS, screen etc, so those will make a difference for gamers or photo/videographers.
On the technical side that no one mentions is the ram is only 2x16 BIT whereas most flagships would use 4x16, not sure how much that would make a difference on day to day basis though.
Yeah I really feel the F3 has better build, Speakers and displays than the F5. Such a shame
I Use F3 8/256 and F5 8/256. Sounds is slightly better on Poco F3, screen is very nice on the both. Video recording is much better and stability on F3, but Poco F3 is limited on 8 minutes 4K video, Poco F5 is not limited on that way.
THE REAL POCO F5 CONS reviewers would not mention
• *Camera* - there's no life in night shots or when taking a photo in the dark esp in pitch black scenes as the camera flash does not help at all. The flash is lacking in brightness. It seems like a dual LED flash but, it's ONLY single flash LED. (Look closely)
• *Speakers* - No bass at all. It's pointless to have Dolby Atmos. Changing tweaking settings does not help as well. It sounds like an old radio. Dual cheap speakers. (Poco X3 GT sounds way way better)
• *Display* - the Amoled panel is less vibrant, the colors are soft and having HDR10+ is nothing as this doesn't help as much. Colors are pale-looking as compared to Redmi Note 10S (less expensive phone)
Hey brothers, this is not hating or anything, I am just telling you the cons I have noticed so far, so you won't regret buying this phone or spending your hard-earned money.
Skip this phone if all I mentioned bothers you or concerns you.
If you only care about Snapdragon 7+Gen2 ... then, everything will be OK for you.
Exactly what I mentioned in my video. Agree with you on those points
what do you expect for the price? lol
Regarding the brightness, the Poco F3 can only reach 1300 nits when watching HDR content, otherwise it maxes out at only 716 nits on auto. Apparently the max brightness on the F5 is 963 nits on auto, so technically it's brighter when out in the sunlight. Data is from GSM Arena.
For manual brightness it's 511 nits on the Poco F3 and 470 nits on the Poco F5. Maybe that is the difference you can see?
Could be could be. Just a shame I don't have the F3 with me anymore but I don't remember having issues with the brightness on that as much as with the F5. Or could be just due to my eyes 👀
The F4 has very good brightness at 1300 nits. And is cheaper now due to the release of F5.
I feel like you are the first 🥇 reviewer to ever point out some cons. Props for being honest. I don't like the idea that reviewers holding back the cons esp those who got their review units. 😢 I don't like this trend.
Thanks man. I really love the POCO series but can't help be disappointed with this F5. Hopefully the F5 GT will come out and be a top phone
@@DrHamezTech Bout the speaker, mine is very very loud
@@kodaphSound on Poco F3 is louder. Use both phones about two months.
I can see no reason to upgrade my poco f3..
Any improvements are minimal... I'd expect much more after 2 year's..
Perhaps we've reached a point of diminished return's?
Probably that's true.. Seeing the cost prices are increasing, it's hard to give great value for money like the F3
My F3 broke beyond repair. After watching this, I don't feel like upgrading to this phone. The screen is a big deal to me, and I'm not switching back to IPS LCD. What would you recommend?
The F5 Pro or the F4 GT might be a good choice for you if you're coming from the F3
i kinda feel like u are expecting too much from this f5 with such price. and some cons that u mentioned aren't even that make sense. its fast charging but u have to bring.the charger around? which phone can charge 67W with pkwer bank or random charger that u founf on a street? 6:30
but still, thanks for ur honest review, i really appreciate ur content as many others are sponsored and apparently u aren't, which is good bc u can give real honest opinion on this phone. thanks alot and keep it up!
Thanks man. Nah I was expecting a lot from poco because they always tend to deliver and the F3 was such an awesome phone so was expecting this to do so too...
Back to the charging, yeah you have to bring the charger that is given to fully enjoy the 67w.. Other phones like Samsung or iPhones can have have their 'fast charging' with a normal powerbank. Just my 2 cents
This boy is mad preaching hate on f5. I literally have the f3 silver 256gb and now bought the white f5 as my main. All the upgrades are minimal but they still are upgrades. Go buy the f5, bros. Also, f series is not camera centric. F3 has its premium feel f5 has its modern lighter feel.
As a big poco fan myself, especially with the F3 and F1, can't help but be disappointed with the F5 imho but everyone has their own experiences 😬
How about the display, is not bright enough?
Many you tubers have many opinion on display iam confused
@@ramverma7429 if you nitpick yes, it's a little dim but I'm not disabled. I can just crank the brightness slider easily. It's just 350 usd for many things to nitpick which is just absurd. I do have 12tpro as a company phone since we do landscaping projects but I use f5 more both work and personal. I do not need a camera centric phone. I know what I look like.
Yeah for me the F3 is brighter than this. A lot of times it was quite frustrating with the low max brightness
did you set the color scheme in saturated and adjust the color temperature a bit to more blue tone.... that will help a lot to improve the color & contrast of the display...
Oh I didnt try it but thank for tips man.. 😉👌
So you are saying poco f3 2 years old has better sound than this F5??
Yeah weird isn't it.. I tried to tweak the audio settings to get better sound but somehow couldnt get it to work
@@DrHamezTech have you tried changing the region? see if it helps volume issues?
@@DrHamezTechtry San Marino region
Well main question is if we're not gonna buy this what we should buy instead of this?
I would go for the F4 GT or the F3 tbh if you're a poco user
Ive got the F2 pro since it was released and its still rocking as from day 1 and was thinking of upgrading to the F5. Im more for the gaming so i guess its a good idea due to the processor. What do you think and thanks, sending you good vibes from Portugal 😊
I would consider the F5 Pro more since I feel overall a better upgrade or the F4 GT
Amoung poco f5 and OnePlus Nord 3 which one's camera is better?
I would personally go for the Nord 3
3:47 if you have the poco f3 I would suggest to do a side by side comparison especially if you reference it so much.
Yeah I would love to do so too but sold it off some time ago to make way for new phones 😅🙏
U mean it's better to buy f4 gt ? But in f4 gt there is heating issue so it is main issue for mre to play games like PUBG but in F5 i don't care about those issue to play games. But i still want your opinion
I honestly didn't face a lot of heating issues with the F4 GT when playing games but then again I'm not a huge gamer. For me, when I was playing stuffs like pubg and Codm on the F5, the sound was really soft for me to hear anything good and the brightness was really too low for my liking
what will you recommend poco f5 or iphone 11?
Depends what you're using now?
Also there is one major point althought doesn't impact the function but it does impact the overall look/feel. The front camera cutout is like much bigger than the ones on Poco F3. They used to be so small and thin even beating other flagships and phones. They used to be so proud of it. Not sure why they removed that.
End of the day yes the performance is definitely better than 870 but 870 is enough for my use and battery is still good for 6-7hrs SOT for me even after 2 years of F3. So gonna stick with it for next upgrade and see what Poco has to bring to the table. Its nice to see they brought back the headphone jack and finally bringing OIS to budget range phones.
Ahh I didn't notice about the punch hole size. Good points you brought up
Larger hole punch sensors are for better selfie cams. I'd rather have a bigger selfie cam sensor and get quality selfies than still have a hole punch, but have it be too small and produce sub par photos.
i get small hang while watching films in HDR. THAT means only play pause and pause for reading sub titles for a small time
Oh thanks for the feedback 😉
is the display even worse than redmi note 12 pro?
Haven't tried the note 12 pro but this display is slightly worst than the F3 and F4 GT for me personally
Is the black looks greyish in this phone?
agree,F5 "CHEAP PHONE" l,backdoor plastic,touch sampling only 240hz.people.say F5 premium,but is not.premium phone llike F4 GT
Hopefully the F5 GT comes out and would be great..
@@DrHamezTech but F5 have enchance is F5 pro
But my region, the F5 pro aren't launch
How did you made the double tap on hime screen to turn off? Mines not working, only the double tap to turn on.
Also the most disapponting thing for me on the f5 is the screen color calibration. Not sure if its just the calibration of the vivid setting ,or is a bug or something, but tbe colors looked washed out on the vivid settings, when i try saturated its a bit oversaturated for me. Hopefully they can fix it on the next update.
Oh it's in the home screen settings. Only works for POCO phones and not other xiaomi phones from what I know.
For speakers, they sound better with Dolby activated
Yeah I did activate them but still sounded hollow for some reason
@@DrHamezTech Does changing Region, like Singapore, US help?
Change it to us it will sound better
Can we disappear the navigation slider in gesture mode (the white bar below)
So far haven't found a way to hide it 😔
@@DrHamezTech I found it 🙂
How did you do it?
@@DrHamezTech in gestures setting there is a option to remove the bar
Bro is it faster or equal for gaming to the poco f4 gt!!?? ❤️
I feel the F4 GT is more consistent for gaming overall imo
The matte version feels nice in hand tbh and doesn't feel cheap. I agree the black version does look cheap and wouldn't recommend that.
It's a shame about the speakers though.
If only I could get the green version.. It was out of stock. I think that was really good
@@DrHamezTech There is green?
I believe its only, Black, White, Blue
@@kodaphFor someone Blue is Green maybe??
F3 and 11t pro are old now it's more than 1 year that they're in stores....
That's true.. F4 or F4 GT is still a good option tbh in 2023
Well u gotta expect its a very cheap phone that performs like a flagship.. so other components such as speakers or screen wont be as good as a flagship phone that cost 800-1000$
For me it doesn't even compare to the F3 which was a brilliant phone. This feels like a downgrade in my opinion and usage 🤷
Incredible good phone, Poco f5❤❤❤❤😊
😍
I would prefer to buy a phone in this range price and not be so old either
Best would be the F4/F4 GT from 2022 😬
What do u expect in that price point?
A lot more tbf.. Especially if you look at the F3 (one of my all time fav phone) 😕
I still use Mi Mix 2s. Aside from the battery which drains quite faster now. It still holds up. Thought about upgraing with this, but I thibk ill pass at the moment.
You might wanna go for the F5 Pro or wait a bit for a f5 gt or a f5 tbh
Excellent honest review my opinion on this brand and phone is bad the experience is not good Poco brand have a untrustworthy reputation I wouldn't buy Poco branded phone's myself
It isn’t great but for the price point and what you’re getting it’s hard to argue tbh … but looking at this after my fav F3, it’s hard haha
@@DrHamezTech F3, I wanted it when it was released but got no money to buy it at that time so I settled to F5