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- Опубликовано: 17 авг 2024
- Did you know there are cards with their own rules in the CR? A lot of them, as it turns out!
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"Would you believe Modern Horizons 2 has as many unique rules references as Unfinity?". Yes. yes I would believe that.
"If the monarch dies and all the remaining players have something that says they cannot be the monarch, then there just stops being one." I believe they call this the French Revolution rule
Panglacial Wurm is so stupid that it needs a single video dedicated only to it.
Speaking of formerly unique cards that got their gimmick yoinked later, shout out to my favorite Future Sight card Boldwyr Intimidator. I'd be mad about it, but "Cowards can't block Warriors" is a phrase that deserves to appear on more cards.
I'm still sore that Embiggen didn't say "non-Coward" creature. Why wouldn't you be able to embiggen a Brushwagg? At least Coward would make sense!
@@JudgingFtW Brushwaggs know what they did
8:09 Devour [quality] does exist outside MH2. A card from one of the LOTR sets has Devour Food
the card is [[Feasting Hobbit]]
There's also a dragon with Devour Goblins.
11:48 Obeka, Splitter of Seconds JUST got spoiled and makes extra upkeep steps 😭
There’s already the Ninth Doctor actually
In both of these scenarios it's perfectly clear whether or not you can cast reset
8:11 there’s Feasting Hobbit, which has Devour Food 3
12:36 the new Niv Mizzet from MKM also cares about color pairs
Portal Mage from 2017 had its own rule because it was the only card that could reselect which player/Planeswalker an attacking creature was attacking. There are now 4 cards that do this.
I pause many DDR videos, but i think this one is the one I've paused the most.
Very interesting stuff! Thanks for covering it!
11:55 The Ninth Doctor also gives additional upkeep steps. So poor Paradox Haze isn't as unique anymore
Was going to say Bitter Ordeal for its Gravestorm keyword, but then I checked and found they printed a new card with it in Karlov.
"there's new cards and new rules coming out every couple of weeks" 💀
I know this video must have taken forever to not only research and write the script, but it must have taken a long time to edit as well. Getting all the card images and the amount of CR citations. Props to you Dave on your efforts on this one.
You are absolutely correct. The editing for this video was over 3 hours. I shudder to think how long it would have taken if I didn't have a program to generate the images for the CR rules and a macro already set to do the card images.
@@JudgingFtW Yeah, I need to get a better setup for my videos. I still have to manually size my card images and move them/crop them. I'm using Sony Vegas from Steam, I miss Adobe Premier which I had on my PC from like two builds ago but my license ended and I've never gotten it back, too pricey.
I'm really shocked Illusionary Mask and Camouflage don't each have their own sections, as when they came out, sure they made total sense to us, same with animate dead, but they are rules nightmares... same with Lich as well.
for real, Animate Dead is very intuitive in what it does, but the way it needs to be expressed in Magic terms to stay in line with the game mechanics is a nightmare
exceptions are the funnest part of any ruleset
Did i miss it, or is panglacial wurm not on this list? I assumed there'd be a section of the CR explaining how that ability works
This was the first card I thought of when I saw the title of this video
There is in fact, not a section explaining how it works. It kind of doesn't work, but wizards doesn't see it as a priority to make it functional.
@@shadogianti think it works via the Golden Rule (101.1) but there are... fucky interactions with the card depending on what you use to cast it
As soon as the rules scholars figure out how it works, they'll let us know. @@shadogiant
yeah i also came into the comments for exactly this reason. once he got to the season of the witch part where he implied that some cards in desperate need of these rules simply don't have them, i assumed panglacial wurm was just in that category
9:15 Indoraptor has bloodthirst X
You looked like you had a blast making this, great video!
Another one for the fallen list, Gravestorm. it got a second card in MKM.
Yes! I was so sad but also so happy about this. Gravestorm deserves more cards, but I was very sad to see its uniqueness go.
@@micboyyaboy2578 it's a really cool take on the storm mechanic, sadly, though it's definitely weaker than normal storm, I do agree with wizards that it's a pretty risky mechanic to play around with on cards, as a few formats have pretty strong Aristocrats decks, and a powerful gravestorm card would be oppressive with those.
@@thejackscraft3472 Quite true, unfortunately. It is very fun to successfully pull off, mostly because of that power level with certain archetypes or effects, but that same power with those effects causes it to be a difficult ability to design around in more mainstream ways.
Love the Rasputin joke! Very deep cut that is precisely in my wheelhouse
Every time I make an obscure joke like that, I worry whether people will get it. I am very rarely disappointed.
I don't get it... would you be so kind?
@@polbulanosalto7403 The reason films say things like "The events depicted here are fictional. Any resemblance to any person, living or dead, in coincidental." is because there was a 1933 film called "Rasputin and the Empress" and the niece of Tsar Nicholas sued the film's producers for libel and defamation of character.
7:10 Aboleth Spawn triggers on opponent's creatures' etbs.
8:00 Eidolon of Obstruction makes your opponent's loyalty abilities cost {1} more
Did Serra Paragon get a unique rule to make it work as intended or did they fix it some other way?
Wait, how does reset work with Eon Hub?
12:10 It still will be a wall with defender, right?
Eidolon of Obstruction doesn't do the same thing as Carth, though--it changes the cost of a loyalty ability, but not the _loyalty_ cost
For the wall/essence situation, you choose the order the effects apply in, so you could have wall of stolen identity enter either as a wall copy of any creature (including essence of the wild), or a (non-wall) copy of essence of the wild. Wall's triggered ability will only trigger in the first case.
11:40 Today I learned that one of the celtic linchpins in the Kelten- & Römermuseum in Manching, Germany is also a MTG card.
Today I learned what the art on Reset was based on. Still no clue what it has to do with resetting anything, though.
In 10:40 the card The Ninth Doctor can also create an additional upkeep step.
Startled awake is actually not the only card that CR 701.28d applies to anymore. The invasion battles that have sorcery backsides from MOM could theoretically need the rule as well, since it is possible to turn them into a human creature through a variety of shenanigans and cast moonmist
Ertai's meddling is the one card that i can think of that might have its own rule, since it puts a spell on the stack without even casting it.
Yeah. Putting it onto the stack as a copy of itself also means it needs to have the same targets and everything.
That is an incredible pull
I'm stunned that Panglacial Wurm is not on this list
When you were listing the ones that have an X in a "keyword N" ability, I was surprised to not see Ob Nixilis the Adversary as he's the only one with Casualty X, but it turns out the rules don't bother explaining that one at all
It's adequately covered; if a value is stated as "X" and nothing is defining X, you get to pick what X is as it becomes relevant. Same as any spell with an {X} in its mana cost. 107.3a covers this for additional costs of casting spells (which is what Casualty is).
Ob Nixilis is also unique in being the only (I think) card in the game to intentionally not have all of its functionality on MTG Arena. The client doesn't let you sacrifice a creature with power greater than X. One of the developers confirmed this was to make the card less cumbersome, as they didn't think the corner cases were worth it.
Shoutout to Word of Command. it may not have its own cr text, but as far as i am aware it's the only card that allows playing a land at instant speed (as opposed to putting it on the battlefield)
Atarka's command can play a land at instant speed. There's also quite a few triggered abilities which can play lands at instant speed (kodama of the east, those damnnable exploring merfolk, probably half the cards in simic)
@@snoozbuster i already pointed out that those don't count; they don't _play_ the lands, they _put them onto the battlefield_. obviously there are a million cards that do that.
(the differences are twofold: word of command can't make an opponent play a land if its not their turn, and if it is their turn, it uses up a land drop)
@@stellatedhexahedron6985 ahhh, okay. I didn't realize that's how that works
There's actually quite a few of those! Ziatora's Envoy, the Runestone Caverns room from Dungeon of the Mad Mage, Brilliant Ultimatum, Djinn of Wishes, Gix Yawgmoth Praetor, Guile (if you counter an mdfc that's a land), any of the Hideaway enchantments/lands, and even just good old Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir + Dryad Arbor.
@@roxannekrogh4228ooh, thanks! guile is especially deliciously weird. i'll forgive myself for not knowing about most of these, but not gix. i've literally played lands with its ability before, how did i miss that?
7:14 yes! Aboleth Spawn says "Whenever a creature entering the battlefield under an opponent’s control causes a triggered ability of that creature to trigger, you may copy that ability."
Re: Elemental Resonance - Charmed Pendant made the original rules for hybrid mana generation necessary.
My brain for opportunity wishes they would start using hybrid for "Add X or Y" mana abilities for the sake of shortcutting.
9:05 I don't know if you usually consider arena-only cards, but Assemble the Team has you search the top third of your library. The larger point of 701.19f only applying to one card is probably still correct, though, as it seems to only apply to replacement effects as written.
While it's not in the CR Devil K. Nevil is the only card to have an official instructional video on how it works
LOL Dave getting spicy at 6 minutes in. I love to see it. Totally agree on un-cards being legal in normal Magic.
Possibly one of my favorite videos here. I love these unique cards. They make the game so much more than just boring combinations of generic triggered and activated abilities.
Big agree. I've become increasingly uneasy with how much of the corners and borders (and *which* corners and borders) of what a Magic card should be have been getting worn away.
9:50 Dream Devourer is another card that can foretold cards without foretell
Not quite the issue. Dream Devourer gives the cards in your hand foretell. The other card causes cards to become foretold without being foretold from your hand by the foretell ability first.
I audibly celebrated when I heard the shot at MaRo and Unfinity. What a disaster of a set that the entire eternal format playerbase now has to live with forever.
In addition to the Ninth Doctor, we also have the new Obeka coming out that grant additional upkeep steps
Now I'm going to build a deck just to force a judge to make a ruling on Jared Carthalion, True Heir and Fealty to the Realm.
Step 1. Play Jared. I can no longer become the monarch this turn.
Step 2. Play Harmless Offering giving one of my opponents Jared. Since he didn't enter under their control, they can still become the monarch this turn.
Step 3. Play Fractured Identity on Jared. My other two opponents and I each get a Jared. I target the opponent who controlled the original with the ETB and they become the monarch.
Step 4. Play Fealty to the Realm on Loot, the Key to Everything.
Step 5. Commit regicide.
Step 6. Loot is free in our realm as it now has no controller in the game.
I thought for sure Raffine was the only card that said "connive X" on it but apparently another equipment does it too
Also I nearly thought dream devourer also let you foretell cards without foretell but it doesn't, it just gives foretell to cards
Around 8:00, there's no other card off the top of my head that adds another LOYALTY cost to Planeswalkers, making the rule excerpt still unique, but Eidolon of Obstruction from Theros: Beyond Death adds one generic mana to the cost of all loyalty abilities of planeswalkers your opponents control.
6:08 I will always feel bad for rules managers but honestly R&D needs to make brand managers sweat a little bit more often.
I love how a card spoiled the same day as this video (extra upkeep Obeka) eliminated a unique rule card (Paradox Haze)
Love your videos, and this was really fun overview of unique rules!
I'm surprised they didn't make the vulture read as "Discard Circling Vultures: This ability has no effect."
Having no effect is already rules text on Fiery Gambit
Still has the problem described with Pithing Needle, though
Why are there 15 Phyrexian mana symbols?
5 for 5 basic, and 10 for 5x4/2 double color combinations?
Correct. Some of the 2 color combinations haven't even been used yet, and at this point aren't likely to ever be used for lore reasons, but the symbols still exist in the game rules.
@@Frommermanmaybe we'll get a completed Tibalt in modern Masters 3 with Phyrexian Rakdos since he never got a card, but yeah.
7:15 The rule text of _Elesh Norn: Mother of Machines_ says: "If a permanent entering the battlefield causes a triggered ability of a permanent you control to trigger, that ability triggers an additional time." and "Permanents entering the battlefield don't cause abilities of permanents your opponents control to trigger."
Interestingly, the first effect is functionally similar to _Strict Proctor_ while the second is not at all, but the second effect is the one that is practically similar to _Strict Proctor_.
Honourable mention for [[Animate Dead]], where it has a lot of text because its effect doesn't cleanly fit into the current rules. See also [[Necromancy]]
Technically there is another card that only searches part of your library but it’s the arena only card “assemble the team” which lets you take any card from the top 1/3rd of your library
“Raging River” was the first card that came to mind when I read “unique ruling”.
Oh my god the Rasputin joke, lmao
I think Spectra Ward would be the same effect as Benevolent Blessing? Same goes for the Ninth Doctor giving a second upkeep step
13:28 its cool that magic has a ruling where you invent democracy
Hi Dave, i think it might be a good short video covering the topic of "Modal spells". With the new riku of the many paths specifying modal spells, it would be a cool dive to see what rules help define modal spells and modality as well as some unlikely examples.
Sideswipe may be the only card that can "change any targets" but Redirect's "choose new targets" comes pretty close.
Very cool episode. The notorious section was funny haha
Hi, Dave. You're a smart cookie. Thanks for the content.
The rule that describes land types did not include Caves until the set after it came out.
205.3i: Lands have their own unique set of subtypes; these subtypes are called land types. The land types are Cave, Desert, Forest, Gate, Island, Lair, Locus, Mine, Mountain, Plains, Power-Plant, Sphere, Swamp, Tower, and Urza's. Of that list, Forest, Island, Mountain, Plains, and Swamp are the basic land types. See rule 305.6.
There's more than one card that rule applies too, though.
The rule that describes Planeswalker types is also missing Quintorius, from the same set, and he's still missing as of now. Poor elephant dude
@@ettasoeur84 Wow, you're right! Here's the rule at time of posting:
205.3j: Planeswalkers have their own unique set of subtypes; these subtypes are called planeswalker types. The planeswalker types are Ajani, Aminatou, Angrath, Arlinn, Ashiok, Bahamut, Basri, Bolas, Calix, Chandra, Comet, Dack, Dakkon, Daretti, Davriel, Dihada, Domri, Dovin, Ellywick, Elminster, Elspeth, Estrid, Freyalise, Garruk, Gideon, Grist, Guff, Huatli, Jace, Jared, Jaya, Jeska, Kaito, Karn, Kasmina, Kaya, Kiora, Koth, Liliana, Lolth, Lukka, Minsc, Mordenkainen, Nahiri, Narset, Niko, Nissa, Nixilis, Oko, Ral, Rowan, Saheeli, Samut, Sarkhan, Serra, Sivitri, Sorin, Szat, Tamiyo, Tasha, Teferi, Teyo, Tezzeret, Tibalt, Tyvar, Ugin, Urza, Venser, Vivien, Vraska, Vronos, Will, Windgrace, Wrenn, Xenagos, Yanggu, Yanling, and Zariel.
@@miserepoignee9594 You're right. You win the internet for today. Until we meet again!
315.3 was amended after the conspiracy release to include a clause that says conspiracies outside the game cannot enter the game solely because of death wish. There have been a few more unrestricted wishes printed since.
6:11 Hella based there my man! Earned my sub!
I suddenly wonder what would happen if you have a Panglacial Wurm in deck that you wish to cast while the opponent has an Aven Mindcensor in play
You can only cast it if you 'see' it while searching your deck. If Aven Mindcensor is in play it would need to be in the top 4 cards you're looking at while searching.
Suppose you cast a Panglacial Wurm when you see it among the top four that you are allowed to search with Mindcensor. Do you continue to search the remaining three, or do you add another card to the search amount?
on the list of rules that used to be unique but arent anymore theres 701.10f, which talks about exchanging entire zones rather than permanents/cards. Was unique to judgemnt's Morality Shift until Harness Infinity was printed in Strixhaven
i wanna collect all these and toss em in a binder with the ruling next to the card hahaha
Can't believe Panglacial Wurm isn't on this list.
"Google and NSA having a baby"... but they're brother and sister!
Your point?
9:04 I'm not sure if this counts, but an Alchemy card on Arena called Assemble the Team also lets you search part of your library (in this case, the top third)
Alchemy cards don't show up in Oracle so probably not.
9:15 Indoraptor from the Jurassic Park lost caverns of ixalan set also has bloodthirst X
10:41 Wasn't the Henzie fix also targeting Serra Paragon? The CR change for Unfinity brought with it a fix for Serra Paragon (the notes on that change specifically mention Serra Paragon, and they talk about 400.7b, 400.7i, and 611.3d). Serra Paragon was also printed after Henzie, if I'm not mistaken.
11:52 obeka splitter of seconds has changed this! I wonder if that’s a record for this channel in terms of a new printing changing something
I was gonna say that the Gravestorm keyword was surely more recently excluded from this list as got its second printing from MKM, but then I paused and looked at where the new fortification came from... And yeah, PIP is more recent...
Lol, "Surveil like Google and NSA"
Wyll's Reversal allows choosing new targets although the wording is slightly different.
Thank you for all the research and content you provide.
Question for Thunder Junction cards: I have Doc Aurlock and God-Eternal Kefnet. I draw my first card and its an instant, Kefnet copies the card. Where is the copy? Is the copy on top of the library, exile, or somewhere else before it gets moved to the stack?
There's a rules clarification on God-Eternal Kefnets scryfall page; "The copy is created in and cast from your hand."
Anything about Chaos Orb and Falling Star with being flipped onto the battlefield, and also Blacker Lotus for ripping up the card but what if that puts them at less than 60 legal cards and is disallowed even though the game requires them to do that?
These cards are absolute bangers
It's not exactly the same, but to go with Benevolent Blessing, there were a few older white Creature Enchantments (surely now erratad to Auras) that granted protection from a color and specified that the granted protection didn't remove the Aura... even when they were granting a specific color besides white, so turning the Aura black wouldn't cause pro-black to knock it off.
Doesn't The Ninth Doctor give an additional upkeep step?
10:08 Extus, Oriq Overlord is also a creature on one side and a sorcery on the other
Extus is an MDFC, not a transform.
9:15 Bloodthirst X now also exists on Indoraptor from REX
You forgot floral spuzzem. It's the only card that makes a decision for itself
6:13 what happens if you ephemerate the face down instant or sorcery from magar of the magic strings? Since it's being exiled by ephemerate the replacement effect ability doesn't do anything, and the ephemerate effect will try to put an instant or sorcery onto the battlefield. Id guess it just stays exiled?
Ok i read the gatherer rulings, it stays exiled. Interestingly an effect that would turn a face down card face up instead does nothing for this one, except for requiring you to reveal the card to show it's an instant/sorcery.
2:57 the difference is that the right one doesn't have stats
For CR 506.6 (when looking at Firkraag) can someone explain if I am understanding the last part of the last sentence correctly.
It seems to imply a boardstate where a creature attacking was the only legal play but that creature wasn't required to attack (from goad e.g.).
Does it mean a board where an opponent has e.g. trove of temptation (essentially a player goad) and I have only one creature, and the rule is distinguishing between a player being forced to attack but that specific creature not being forced to attack?
Something I've always wondered and that isn't explained in the collection of rulings in Gatherer: does "top creature card of your graveyard" mean the topmost creature card in your graveyard, or only the top card, which must be a creature? For example, if your graveyard has a creature with a sorcery on top of it, can you exile the creature to Circling Vultures?
The top creature card in your graveyard is the topmost card in your graveyard that is a creature, even if that card is not the top card of your graveyard. So in your example you can exile the creature to circling vultures even if there is a sorcery on top of it.
I have a question about the new Obeka, Splitter of seconds. How does she interact with spells and abilities that cause extra combat steps? For example, you have her and Karlach, Fury of Avernus on the battlefield, and you deal combat damage with Obeka. What happens? Do you get the extra combat first? Or the upkeeps? Or something else?
No mention of Panglacial Wurm
Panglacial Wurm actually doesn't have any CR text specifically devoted to it. You're expected to just wing that one (or have the Oracle text handy).
On the note of Henzie Torre being the most recent broken-on-release card, wouldn't that be Serra Paragon? I'm pretty sure I remember that one having similar issues.
Actually, now it's Wheel of Potential
@@JudgingFtW Really? That's surprising. How exactly does it break?
I'd assume, looking at the card knowing that something is wrong, it's probably that 'you *may* pay X energy counters', so if you don't, X is somehow undefined for the second part of the effect? Or is it something completely different?
No mention of the glorious mess that is Panglacial Wurm? Does it not have anything in the CR and we just handwave it?
Some great picks if you want to start a judges tower lmao
Doesn't Gather Specimens have a unique place in the replacement effect priority hierarchy?
If it was Sphinx of the Second Sun instead of paradox haze, would it work the same way?
9:48 How about Foretold Soldier from the WHO set?
Don't forget trinisphere
Sooo... I guess Judge Dave isn't a fan of Unfinity 😂
Unfinity is great. Cards from Unfinity being legal in sanctioned games of Magic is way, Way, WAY, WAAAAAAY more problems than it's worth.
Rasputin Dreamweaver joke explained: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_persons_fictitious_disclaimer#Origins
Love these deep dives
Foretold Soldier becomes foretold also.
Hey,
quick question about how Serum Powder works:
Let's say i take a first mulligan and draw seven new cards. I don’t like these but have a Serum Powder in Hand:
Do I have to exile all seven cards and draw seven new, then decide which one hoes to the bottom of my library?
OR
Do I have to exile all seven cards and draw seven new and keep them because it is not mentioned in the effect of Serum Powder, that i have to discard?
OR
Do I have to put a card on the bottom of my library first and then exile six cards and draw six new cards?
it’s the third option. You bottom a card, then you exile 6 and draw 6. If your new 6 has a serum powder, you can exile those 6 and draw 6 more. If it doesn’t then you can keep it or go to 5 as normal
@@OceanicBacon Hmm, this sounds like a Paris Mulligan with one extra draw but i heard Serum Powder is much stronger with the London Mulligan rule.
Are you sure this is the right answer?
@@TheGorillah That is definitely how it works. The london mulligan makes mulliganing in general more powerful than the paris mulligan, so in that sense Serum Powder is stronger with the london mulligan, but you still have to bottom the appropriate number of cards before you exile your hand.
@@OceanicBacon In that case there wouldn't be an advantage between for london mulligan.
It would bring the paris mulligan in todays play with an extra draw. So no advantage because with the london mulligan you can usually draw seven new cards.
@@TheGorillahUsing the powder is not an actual mulligan so the functionality doesn’t change with changes to the mulligan rule, but i suppose the London mulligan does make serum powder easier to find as you are mulliganing
Oh i would be interested to hear what the story is with johnny toolbox or whatever his name was
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wow, great video!
Bro cooked on this one
Panharmonicon triggers triggers on triggers
The oracle text of Drain power states that "Target player activates a mana ability of each land they control." That's odd to me, as the card seemingly forces a player to activate the abilities. Like, your opponent, by the card's effect, must use all of their lands to add mana to their mana pool.
How does the resolution of this spell work? Can you, in regular circumstance, activate mana abilities as a spell is resolving?
Another part of the card says "Then that player loses all unspent mana and you add the mana lost this way." Can your opponent use that mana before its "stolen?" What is the timing window for how an opponent can react to this before, during and after this spell has resolved?
I think a better wording for this card would be something like "Tap all lands target player controls. Then that player loses all unspent mana in their mana pool and for each land tapped this way, add one mana of that player's choosing that the land could produce and add mana equal to the mana lost this way to your mana pool." I just feel like the whole "forcing you opponent to activate their lands" is weird and unnecessary.
You can activate mana abilities during the resolution of a spell or ability if you have reason to, such as paying for a Mana Leak or casting a spell during the resolution of a spell like Invoke Calamity if you need to pay mana for some reason. Or in this case, because you want that mana for yourself.
Also that text is functionally different since they won’t take damage from, say, an Ancient Tomb, as well as only getting one mana from it, it’ll also work differently with any filter land
9:58 Didnt hooded hydra do this before?
6:04 get emmm