I mean this was great video, buying Hailey what they want you to do so they can normalized this so they can get more people to swipe. The wild thing is that people don't realized this normal version of character, if this keeps up what do you think they gonna do with ultimate character.
@@renehamilton5499yeah then fuck this game, I better play Warframe. If you wanna compete with games like WF or D2, then you should take good example from them not worsen it.
@renehamilton5499 ohh right so they should make all character grinde, fck rest of people that want grind character. Of course the only way they earn money is with characters, it's not like they selling a lot different expensive skins or have battle pass.
@@GhungaTheGreat yeah like fck the grinders or f2p players and there are piss drinkers like him who thinks everything is normal "iTs tHeiR pRoFit". then why tf Im not having fun farming in THIS game, even I have over 3k in WF?
Nah dude, here's what YOU all did. You complained about rng, whined and whined and whined. Then they make a casual grind, well what's SUPPOSED TO BE a casual grind, and you whine and whine and whine. I was fine with rng, I was fine with that grind. But YOU bitched. Blame yourself for the devs wanting to change shit to appease YOU. Farm her casually if you want to complain yet again. It's what im doing and I have farmed every descendant. It's why I know why it's the community's fault for her farm.
That’s what I did and still doing btw. i managed to level up a lot of weapons and 3 descendants in process of running dungeons. I had 7 catalyst invested in ult bunny. And I managed to put in 5 more catalyst on her simply running magisters lab and the chapel dungeons. Quite easily to level up your descendant and weapon in my opinion. The other two descendants I leveled up were Enzo and Luna. I didn’t feel like I was farming for a single item. Gots lots done in process
Terrible grinding time for a non-Ultimate character. Even if you worked in the lowest minimum wage state earning $7.25 an hour, you could earn enough money to buy Hailey in 4 hours of work, or less than 1 shift ($29 in 4 hrs).
This is Nexon's plan, now every new character will have such approach, that makes people to buy instead of farm, probably the next character will be even more harder to craft. Btw i already afraid, how grindy, how difficult will be to create ultimate freyna
@@darthvocrum5719 her being THAT good isn't a valid reason to gatekeep her behind a 15hr grind (and that's if you aren't the unluckiest person). That would mean every "busted" descendant should be locked behind a dumb long grind ?
Damn I thought it was a 100% drop per hard mode completion, they should’ve added the mission score to add a guaranteed drop chance for like 30k score gives a part to promote the new system they got
I’m not sure why you assume they would keep the dungeons as the method for Hailey after season. I assume they would just add her to a pattern after like other new characters. Also 15hours to farm a new descendant, who is also the highest skill damage in the game, in a 90day season, is perfectly reasonable.
People don't realize that making it grindable in a day isn't a good idea. It's also worth noting you aren't JUST doing Hailey, you can get other stuff for other builds. You can also play the game at your own pace. Just because your friends put in 16 hours after Hailey dropped doesn't mean everyone can.
The haven - amorphous pattern 114 - 91 times - datachip - 36 The shelter - amorphous pattern 078 - 119 times - stabilizer - 36 Magister's lab - amorphous pattern 056 - 79 times - dna - 31 (+5 from invasion) The asylum - amorphous pattern 094 Mutant AA - 84 times - catalyst - 31(+5 from invasion) Total 24 hours grind And mine is cooking and time left 5 hr 30 min
Is this still accurate as Haliey is my last Last Descendant to farm? I have all the rest by farming and I'm not seeing the drops at all unless I do the daily Infiltrations. Can we still get Hailey parts from non daily Infil Dungeons? I realize the actual parts states we can but again I'm not getting the drops. Thank you
I was already tempting to get Hailey via my wallet but I realized since I started Invasions late (waiting on MP portion to arrive), I retroactively got 2/4 of her items, with just one more to craft, and then just farm her Code, which is the most bs thing to drop considering there's no dupe protection. Why would they change Hailey's farming system baffles me and I hope it stays with Hailey and not new Descendants moving forward. Season 1 is by far the best and the worse.
The way of obtaining Hailey doesn’t seem too bad considering she has alot of dmg, I don’t think they will nerf her either. I’ve played some gacha games, other Shooter Looters and many more games and this game feels completely fair, although I can understand why people feel like its bad, and don’t get me wrong, I don’t think this is a perfect system either. She only needs an energy activator and it can 2-3 shots 1/3 of the HM bosses. Specially considering she is the only good content to do that we have in season one. Anyways, good video, its really really helpful to see how much time we have to grind
Comparing this to gacha games puts things into perspective. In your typical gacha game, you will never get every character and their best in slot weapons, unless you invest thousands and thousands of dollars. Meanwhile this game, you can probably get everything in a couple of months, only for 5 bucks for character slots.
i think its not great because shes being treated like an ultimate in terms of grind time. sure if every other base descendant took 15 hours to grind it wouldn't be as big of an issue, but the fact that currently she is by far one of the best dmg dealers and is locked behind such a large grind or a $20 pay wall is whats bothering me
and here i am ... ex-GENSHIN player.....pour hundred of hours into the game and still cant have everything. TFD feels fair to me as F2P. unlocked all char and weapon depend on how much we want to grind. is it perfect ? dunno .... it s a free game ... enjoy it if you can or dump it if you want.....choices in our hand
@@weliveinasusciety1279 why not ? 1.i play genshin on pc same as TFD 2.they both have microtransaction 3.they both mostly PvE with small co-op option 4.they both live service game Maybe compare them isnt right in your experience....but it is in mine at least. Lets just agree to disagree :)
I really thought it was just me that was suffering. I’m missing a few pieces, but can’t get stabilizers or spiral catalyst to drop, meanwhile I’m swimming in data chips
Realistically it take 4 days, if you account for boredom and burnout! I know I'm 2 days in and im done with the BP season mission of complete 300 mission!
I wonder what Nexon is thinking... Just because they created a bad system and made it extremely slow to farm a new Descendant, do they really think everyone will bother to get it and struggle just because they added this system to the game? I won’t. I don’t really care about the Haily character. If this is going to be the new Descendant system from now on, sorry, but I’m moving on. I only play what I think is fun, and it was fun until the Invasion. I’m having fun without doing the Invasion mission, which isn’t hard but is incredibly annoying. Annoyance is not the same thing as difficulty, and I haven’t even tried to get Haily. I finished getting my last Descendant yesterday, and now I’ll start farming the weapons I still don’t have and upgrading the ones I care about.
It could be a LONG while before Ult. Hailey gets released. When Ult Freyna drops, all the female characters from launch, save for Sharen, will have an Ultimate version. THEN they have to get all the guys. If that order is followed, it'll take at least another year.
Pertaining to your title what the fuck other way is there to farm anything unless you’re cheating and your AFK farming but I mean seriously you’re speaking about Haley what other way is there to farm Haley except manually? I wasn’t aware this was a mobile game. I don’t think there’s any automated farming you can’t just click a button and say run this missionwhile I’m sleeping
Everyone was crying , " There's no content , what am I suppose to do , bla bla bla " , now they gave us content and everyone is crying again , " It takes so long , I don't have the time , bla bla bla " . Player base worse than toddlers 🤣🤣🤣. Nice video tho , grinding her right now
and this is content?! repeating the same boring dungeon over 100 time for a single character (not even ultimate) is just not fun lol Oh if you don´t like just buy it! yeah buying "power" or anything else that is not a cosmetic would make me lose interest in a game even faster....
I really enjoy this game but I hate the fact that it's a fcken cash grab where they pretty much force to spend money this is why warframe is better imo
Exactly. TFD copied a lot of other games and made it predatory. Then you get people saying, "If you can't afford it don't play it". Affording it is the easy part😅 but why would you let yourself get abused like that? You're a victim. You've played too many toxic games where they normalized aggressive microtransactions. Warframe though, has one of the best I've seen. Not saying it's #1 but it's good enough that you're not forced to spend. If anything it makes you want to spend to support DE
World first f2p Hailey (real)
I mean this was great video, buying Hailey what they want you to do so they can normalized this so they can get more people to swipe. The wild thing is that people don't realized this normal version of character, if this keeps up what do you think they gonna do with ultimate character.
I mean, a FTP game wants you to buy a character so that they can perhaps turn a profit on this game. Oh the audacity!
@@renehamilton5499yeah then fuck this game, I better play Warframe. If you wanna compete with games like WF or D2, then you should take good example from them not worsen it.
@renehamilton5499 ohh right so they should make all character grinde, fck rest of people that want grind character. Of course the only way they earn money is with characters, it's not like they selling a lot different expensive skins or have battle pass.
@@GhungaTheGreat yeah like fck the grinders or f2p players and there are piss drinkers like him who thinks everything is normal "iTs tHeiR pRoFit". then why tf Im not having fun farming in THIS game, even I have over 3k in WF?
Nah dude, here's what YOU all did. You complained about rng, whined and whined and whined. Then they make a casual grind, well what's SUPPOSED TO BE a casual grind, and you whine and whine and whine. I was fine with rng, I was fine with that grind. But YOU bitched. Blame yourself for the devs wanting to change shit to appease YOU. Farm her casually if you want to complain yet again. It's what im doing and I have farmed every descendant. It's why I know why it's the community's fault for her farm.
I'ma just farm the hailey dungeons to level up my descendants while maxing my ultimate weapons that way I dont burn out from single target farmin
That’s what I did and still doing btw. i managed to level up a lot of weapons and 3 descendants in process of running dungeons. I had 7 catalyst invested in ult bunny. And I managed to put in 5 more catalyst on her simply running magisters lab and the chapel dungeons. Quite easily to level up your descendant and weapon in my opinion. The other two descendants I leveled up were Enzo and Luna. I didn’t feel like I was farming for a single item. Gots lots done in process
Ya this is my plan also. I had just unlocked ultimate lepic before season 1 started, so I can finish building him by the time I unlock hailey
Terrible grinding time for a non-Ultimate character. Even if you worked in the lowest minimum wage state earning $7.25 an hour, you could earn enough money to buy Hailey in 4 hours of work, or less than 1 shift ($29 in 4 hrs).
This is Nexon's plan, now every new character will have such approach, that makes people to buy instead of farm, probably the next character will be even more harder to craft. Btw i already afraid, how grindy, how difficult will be to create ultimate freyna
This is goofy and sheep will continue to support this
Imagine paying for a Free To Play game. 🤣🤣🤣
Couldn't be me.
U kidding right? this chick is stronger than any ultimate descendant, she can literally 3-4 shot a boss LMAO
@@darthvocrum5719 her being THAT good isn't a valid reason to gatekeep her behind a 15hr grind (and that's if you aren't the unluckiest person). That would mean every "busted" descendant should be locked behind a dumb long grind ?
Damn I thought it was a 100% drop per hard mode completion, they should’ve added the mission score to add a guaranteed drop chance for like 30k score gives a part to promote the new system they got
The point of the season Is to do the invasion daily to farm her and just do infiltrations to get the las mats, but people have 0 patience
@@tidussquaalthose invasion are insanely hard
15 hours is honestly not that bad. I'm kinda jaded from farming because of black desert 15 hours is not bad
I’m not sure why you assume they would keep the dungeons as the method for Hailey after season. I assume they would just add her to a pattern after like other new characters. Also 15hours to farm a new descendant, who is also the highest skill damage in the game, in a 90day season, is perfectly reasonable.
People don't realize that making it grindable in a day isn't a good idea. It's also worth noting you aren't JUST doing Hailey, you can get other stuff for other builds. You can also play the game at your own pace. Just because your friends put in 16 hours after Hailey dropped doesn't mean everyone can.
The haven - amorphous pattern 114 - 91 times - datachip - 36
The shelter - amorphous pattern 078 - 119 times - stabilizer - 36
Magister's lab - amorphous pattern 056 - 79 times - dna - 31
(+5 from invasion)
The asylum - amorphous pattern 094 Mutant AA - 84 times - catalyst - 31(+5 from invasion)
Total 24 hours grind
And mine is cooking and time left 5 hr 30 min
Also takes 1-2 hours working to get as well XD
there is an alternative option of neither buy not grind hard which is just Uninstall which I did lol
You wanted that character so bad huh 😂😂
Simply pay walls so that they can pay their debts
Will I be needing a bank loan?
It’s not a hard grind to do, not even a pay wall lol
This content is awesome. More for other characters please!
Is this still accurate as Haliey is my last Last Descendant to farm?
I have all the rest by farming and I'm not seeing the drops at all unless I do the daily Infiltrations.
Can we still get Hailey parts from non daily Infil Dungeons? I realize the actual parts states we can but again I'm not getting the drops.
Thank you
I was already tempting to get Hailey via my wallet but I realized since I started Invasions late (waiting on MP portion to arrive), I retroactively got 2/4 of her items, with just one more to craft, and then just farm her Code, which is the most bs thing to drop considering there's no dupe protection. Why would they change Hailey's farming system baffles me and I hope it stays with Hailey and not new Descendants moving forward. Season 1 is by far the best and the worse.
I think it will get added to patterns for sure when season ends.
Hailey is not my priority right now I'm still focusing on E-Activators and Catalyst and unlocking other Descendants and Ulti descendants
The way of obtaining Hailey doesn’t seem too bad considering she has alot of dmg, I don’t think they will nerf her either.
I’ve played some gacha games, other Shooter Looters and many more games and this game feels completely fair, although I can understand why people feel like its bad, and don’t get me wrong, I don’t think this is a perfect system either.
She only needs an energy activator and it can 2-3 shots 1/3 of the HM bosses. Specially considering she is the only good content to do that we have in season one.
Anyways, good video, its really really helpful to see how much time we have to grind
Comparing this to gacha games puts things into perspective.
In your typical gacha game, you will never get every character and their best in slot weapons, unless you invest thousands and thousands of dollars.
Meanwhile this game, you can probably get everything in a couple of months, only for 5 bucks for character slots.
i think its not great because shes being treated like an ultimate in terms of grind time. sure if every other base descendant took 15 hours to grind it wouldn't be as big of an issue, but the fact that currently she is by far one of the best dmg dealers and is locked behind such a large grind or a $20 pay wall is whats bothering me
and here i am ... ex-GENSHIN player.....pour hundred of hours into the game and still cant have everything.
TFD feels fair to me as F2P. unlocked all char and weapon depend on how much we want to grind.
is it perfect ? dunno ....
it s a free game ... enjoy it if you can or dump it if you want.....choices in our hand
PC games shouldn't be compared to gacha games.
@@weliveinasusciety1279 why not ?
1.i play genshin on pc same as TFD
2.they both have microtransaction
3.they both mostly PvE with small co-op option
4.they both live service game
Maybe compare them isnt right in your experience....but it is in mine at least.
Lets just agree to disagree :)
I really thought it was just me that was suffering. I’m missing a few pieces, but can’t get stabilizers or spiral catalyst to drop, meanwhile I’m swimming in data chips
Me Casually farming for Hailey while farming for Ultimate Valby.
Got both.
You know is getting bad when you consider working minimum wage to buy her💀
taht thumbnail got me :)
Bro gotta give you props. There's no way in hell I'm waisting time on a non ultimate descendant lol
My Hailey grind took 314 missions excluding invasions, I had 30 missions dry spell where nothing dropped for like 3 of the pieces. I wanted to quit
Realistically it take 4 days, if you account for boredom and burnout! I know I'm 2 days in and im done with the BP season mission of complete 300 mission!
I mean... guess i'll farm Hailey while farming Void Charge module
I finished it this morning at 2 am with all materials. I was doing it 3 day .
15 hours isn' much for gaming
Tbh I'd rather use amorphous if it was possible
Got my hailey on the oven as well, and honestly, garbage farm, rather farm 3% relics than this fiesta
I was in fact there
First time here I enjoy the way you set up this video. I’m looking forward to your content and the growth of your channel.🫡💯
For the data chip mystery’s end is better than the haven
I already crafted her, for me it took 2 days with a bunny (20-25 hours)
looks like average farm iin f2p games,every game you better off working that time and buying than grinding
That's what they want you to do
That's what Nexon is doing do you think most people are gonna waste time farming her no they want you to swipe the card 😂
Do you use consumable drop rate increase or equipment drop rate increase for better chances?
I'm gonna assume he didn't, cuz clear speed is important. Idk for a fact though
@@BooBreeze I did but idk if it helped with drops
I wonder what Nexon is thinking... Just because they created a bad system and made it extremely slow to farm a new Descendant, do they really think everyone will bother to get it and struggle just because they added this system to the game? I won’t. I don’t really care about the Haily character. If this is going to be the new Descendant system from now on, sorry, but I’m moving on. I only play what I think is fun, and it was fun until the Invasion. I’m having fun without doing the Invasion mission, which isn’t hard but is incredibly annoying. Annoyance is not the same thing as difficulty, and I haven’t even tried to get Haily. I finished getting my last Descendant yesterday, and now I’ll start farming the weapons I still don’t have and upgrading the ones I care about.
*laughs in Warframe*
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I left Warframe because the devs were the fun police and the frames were getting sillier, uglier, and they kept introducing and removing systems lol
@@ittylink oh agreed.
My rng must be dogshit cause in like an hr and a half to 2hrs I only got 2 pieces from labs
Why are people raging over a standard character it's not even the ultimate version lol
It could be a LONG while before Ult. Hailey gets released. When Ult Freyna drops, all the female characters from launch, save for Sharen, will have an Ultimate version. THEN they have to get all the guys. If that order is followed, it'll take at least another year.
Were these runs done after patch 1.1.0b that supposedly "Increased Hailey's Research Material drop rate in Infiltration Operation"?
yes
they really need to put multplay on invasion as farming her normal is just not fun
I really hope they never ever do this system for a new descendant ever again.
no dupe protection? lool, it's tooks forever with only invasion mission
running 100 + same infiltration no thx
Lmao this was me finishing last night, took about 4 5ish hrs seshs
I might be stupid but i don't understand how this system works and your video made it more confusing for me lol
you need 36 of each part to craft 1 whole part for hailey (so you'd have to get 36 fragments for spiral in order to craft the spiral)
@@drapple1215 i see, that make sense. Sadly the farming activities are garbage 😞
Nexon... Just spend money bro.
Did you mean to use a colon or...
Just grind her, stop being lazy
Were same hahaha instead buying it.
Pertaining to your title what the fuck other way is there to farm anything unless you’re cheating and your AFK farming but I mean seriously you’re speaking about Haley what other way is there to farm Haley except manually? I wasn’t aware this was a mobile game. I don’t think there’s any automated farming you can’t just click a button and say run this missionwhile I’m sleeping
Thanks for the video. I can uninstall this game with no hesitation now.
Not sure why you played it in the first place if you’re too lazy to do a 15hour grind
They should be paying players.
Ha
Im pretty sure when the game reach 10 mil players or less they are going to change things or let the game die with it
in 1 year, this game will be dead.
it has too many faults and incompetant devs.
what. a. shame.
You’re idiotic
Everyone was crying , " There's no content , what am I suppose to do , bla bla bla " , now they gave us content and everyone is crying again , " It takes so long , I don't have the time , bla bla bla " . Player base worse than toddlers 🤣🤣🤣. Nice video tho , grinding her right now
Tf you yapping about these dungeons already existed we’re just re doing dungeons that already existed for 15 hours that’s not new content
and this is content?! repeating the same boring dungeon over 100 time for a single character (not even ultimate) is just not fun lol
Oh if you don´t like just buy it! yeah buying "power" or anything else that is not a cosmetic would make me lose interest in a game even faster....
@@arzog6446 You're free to leave
True, they need to the trade-in system though. Too many of the player base want instant gratification from a f2p game which is kind delusional.
If you want to play the same boring dungeons just to grind a regular character then be my guess not everyone is gonna do same thing tho
what? i didnt take a month ? for real?
It doesn't but it gets boring really fast
@@Quokca you get lots of amorphous and materials tho so its good
I really enjoy this game but I hate the fact that it's a fcken cash grab where they pretty much force to spend money this is why warframe is better imo
Exactly. TFD copied a lot of other games and made it predatory. Then you get people saying, "If you can't afford it don't play it". Affording it is the easy part😅 but why would you let yourself get abused like that? You're a victim. You've played too many toxic games where they normalized aggressive microtransactions. Warframe though, has one of the best I've seen. Not saying it's #1 but it's good enough that you're not forced to spend. If anything it makes you want to spend to support DE
I don't think you know what a cash grab is and explain what is exactly forced to be bought.
@@ittylink things like skins,boosters an entire BATTLEPASS ,you have to spend money in order to actually have fun
Not a cash grab at all, you make 0 sense. Nothing in the game forces you to spend money