I was shocked at some of these comments. This was a very generous thing for Mr. Coryell to put on You Tube available for free, and you all should be ashamed of yourselves. I can appreciate the frustration of being a guitarist and not hearing this harmony, or understanding it conceptually. I have watched this lesson over the the years and also did not respond to it. What is fascinating to me is that after so long my mind and ears were ready to hear it, and understand it. I just had to open my ears and heart, and keep going. Thank you for this very helpful lesson.
Yes, he is right! It is not often said but this scale really makes the difference. Believe me, this piece of information is worth more than thousands of youtube lessons. The correct and soulful usage of melodic minor and it's modes seperates the real good jazzers from the mediocre ones. Most of the hip lines we hear in jazz come from a melodic minor scale.
I've found it helpful to play scale against online dominant 7 chord vamps say a static F7 chord (nice tension) and two chord loops like Em7 to A7. Larry's right when he says it takes time to incorporate the scale into the music- ear and fingers then applying it to your own taste and style. Very helpful two part lesson.
Every gig I play with my indie band, I get complimented on my ability and musicianship, but DAMN, this video just showed me how much I don't know and have yet to learn!
Thank you so much, Larry. This is very helpful in phrasing...although I am pretty familiar with all you present, it is wonderful to hear and see your detail, style and sound. Thanks again! C.G.T. Ukiah, CA
You learn to play over them so you can play through them. Larry's been a bad ass since about 1967. Henderson is Larry's favorite modern fusion player. Quite a complemint coming from the godfather of fusion. Larry is also an influence on Henderson.
@legatoman because the superlocrian (or more often called the altered scale) has the same chord tones as a normal half-diminished: 1 b3 b5 b7 so it works fine
I'm getting a guitar lesson from one of the most revolutionary guitarists in the world. I want Larry's autograph again. Then if he would just allow me to improvise over his beautiful masterpiece, Low-Lee-Tah, while he is playing.
@jawesome01 Coryell, 67, has been well-known in jazz circles since Chico Hamilton's band in '65. Carlton, 62, joined the Crusaders in '71, who had a huge hit , "Put It Where You Want It". From that point on 'Larry' meant 'Carlton'. There's a famous Stevie Ray Vaughn interview done by Coryell, where it turned out SRV thought he had been interviewed by Carlton.
Coryell plays Bb jazz melodic minor over the E- A7 change. Question: How can the notes F and Eb of Bb jazz melodic minor fit with the notes E and D of E- chord (seems pretty dissonant to me, since they are a semitone apart, they form a D Eb E F line)? Maybe he means to play the jazz melodic minor only on the A7 chord?
McLaughlin has a more simple and clear concept for teaching these. For example Larry talks about Bbjazz minor over E-7 and A7....actually McLaughlin relates these moves in minor thirds up. So Gjazz minor then Bb jazz minor....less conflicting notes there.
It means exactly that! If you play altered on a tritone sub. you don't alter at all. See where I am going? You would just be playing mixo #11. And not -9 -10 #11 -13. Check it out!
It ; s not the Bb note I 'm worried about, it 's the F and Eb over the E chord (minor or half diminished I don' t care), because they seem to contradict with E and D(of Emin7b5 chord) by a half step.
@rwmcjazz How can you all compare Scott Henderson and Larry Coryell? Different generations, different styles. Would you compare Django Reinhardt to Pat Metheny? You should listen to the player in the context of the musical period he played in. If you prefer one guitarist to another, that's just a matter of personal taste.
"For knowledge, I'd lean toward Coryell." And for overall "technical ability" as well. Even the biggest dummkopf would notice such a major detail. If you haven't arrived at this point yet -- then you need to keep learning, living, and playing. Cheers
What? Larry Coryell underestimated? How old are you? This guy was around when Hendrix was just coming on the scene. Larry was so progressive that the corny mob that held the straight-ahead music scene together was blown away by Larry. He was ahead of his time. I'm sure he's disappointed with the way jazz has found its way onto the WAVE in the bland context it's presented. I think guitarists should be more proud of where guitar has its place in history, a ground breaker. Why did Miles turn to it?
@rwmcjazz "Scott Henderson is a very good jazz/blues player and fully understands countless improvisational concepts: I concur, but really; from the clips I've seen of Scott Henderson - how the fuck did he get a gig with Chick Corea?!? The dude almost sounds like a typical White blues player with a few extra chops than normal. In my opinion, he dosen't have NEAR the virtuosity of a Di Meola, McLaughlin, Gambale, and of course - Coryell. If he does, I haven't seen nor heard it on youtube...
@legatoman nothing more pathetic than an amateur jazz player lecturing on theory. If you like the sound play it- if you don't - don't. Go practice and age.
I was shocked at some of these comments. This was a very generous thing for Mr. Coryell to put on You Tube available for free, and you all should be ashamed of yourselves. I can appreciate the frustration of being a guitarist and not hearing this harmony, or understanding it conceptually. I have watched this lesson over the the years and also did not respond to it. What is fascinating to me is that after so long my mind and ears were ready to hear it, and understand it. I just had to open my ears and heart, and keep going. Thank you for this very helpful lesson.
I've met Larry and he's a very great guy.
Yes, he is right! It is not often said but this scale really makes the difference. Believe me, this piece of information is worth more than thousands of youtube lessons. The correct and soulful usage of melodic minor and it's modes seperates the real good jazzers from the mediocre ones. Most of the hip lines we hear in jazz come from a melodic minor scale.
Larry prob #1 in jazz guitar of all time! Great sound. Abundant in music theory and jazz!
What a great lesson! Thanks Larry!
what a great lesson I think i'll have to watch it again, wit a pen and paper
Incredible lesson. His "sound" is his own.
A nice guy too. I spoke with him at NAMM and he was very sincere.
I've found it helpful to play scale against online dominant 7 chord vamps say a static F7 chord (nice tension) and two chord loops like Em7 to A7. Larry's right when he says it takes time to incorporate the scale into the music- ear and fingers then applying it to your own taste and style. Very helpful two part lesson.
Every gig I play with my indie band, I get complimented on my ability and musicianship, but DAMN, this video just showed me how much I don't know and have yet to learn!
Greatest lesson ever...Thank you Mr. CorYELL !!
Many thx for this Larry!!!
Thank you so much, Larry. This is very helpful in phrasing...although I am pretty familiar with all you present, it is wonderful to hear and see your detail, style and sound. Thanks again!
C.G.T. Ukiah, CA
I don't know if I could ever assimilate all this info, but damn, Larry owns.
R.I.P. Sir ! Are you now playing with Jimi and Miles ..:-) A fantastic lesson..:-)
It's funny how instantly you can tell by looking at him he's an astonishing guitar player, even before he played a note!
i love the smile at the end.
It’s called the diminished whole tone scale. Some call at the altered scale. Play it over the Hendrix. Chord E7#9
Thanx Bangadon. I usually go for the 6th mode of the melodic minor on a half-diminished chord and the altered mode on a 7b9(or 7#9 and 7b13) chord.
Great lesson, what a pro
Excellent !
the thing about him:he seems like a good guy plus i like his hair and his style of glasses
You learn to play over them so you can play through them. Larry's been a bad ass since about 1967. Henderson is Larry's favorite modern fusion player. Quite a complemint coming from the godfather of fusion. Larry is also an influence on Henderson.
Man This Is Great...!!!...But it's way ahead of me...Ill have to watch it a million times to understand it! sounds great though.....
@legatoman because the superlocrian (or more often called the altered scale) has the same chord tones as a normal half-diminished: 1 b3 b5 b7
so it works fine
@legatoman excellent, you are learning.
Muchas gracias Larry.......
Thank you sir!
I'm getting a guitar lesson from one of the most revolutionary guitarists in the world. I want Larry's autograph again. Then if he would just allow me to improvise over his beautiful masterpiece, Low-Lee-Tah, while he is playing.
Precisely. I know exactly what you mean. Here's hoping we make it to the top of that ladder eventually!
I sooooo wish i could play Jazz like that.
Gets all the chicks
I love it when he says "let me just get my wig streight here"
lol
@jawesome01 Coryell, 67, has been well-known in jazz circles since Chico Hamilton's band in '65. Carlton, 62, joined the Crusaders in '71, who had a huge hit , "Put It Where You Want It". From that point on 'Larry' meant 'Carlton'. There's a famous Stevie Ray Vaughn interview done by Coryell, where it turned out SRV thought he had been interviewed by Carlton.
"let me get my wig straight..." wow it doesn't get any better than that when discussing jazz minor.
Larry
Nice job !! : )))
Coryell plays Bb jazz melodic minor over the E- A7 change. Question: How can the notes F and Eb of Bb jazz melodic minor fit with the notes E and D of E- chord (seems pretty dissonant to me, since they are a semitone apart, they form a D Eb E F line)? Maybe he means to play the jazz melodic minor only on the A7 chord?
The scale holds all the altered notes of an A7th chord.
I like when he says "let me get my wig straight" lol
McLaughlin has a more simple and clear concept for teaching these. For example Larry talks about Bbjazz minor over E-7 and A7....actually McLaughlin relates these moves in minor thirds up. So Gjazz minor then Bb jazz minor....less conflicting notes there.
Really. This is a great lesson. I'm sure John has his way to do it. As does Diorio, Eschete, Juris, Wilkins, Martino etc. All are great.
Gotcha!
On the bookmarks bar you go :)
what a complicated lesson, haha pregnant with possibilities.
It means exactly that! If you play altered on a tritone sub. you don't alter at all. See where I am going? You would just be playing mixo #11. And not -9 -10 #11 -13. Check it out!
that scale... is PREGNANT with possibilities hahaha
when you have a raised 9 are you raising it a half step or full step?
Half
So..... as I understand it, in a Min II > Altered V progression, play the jazz minor a half step above the altered V chord?
Quite easy then. :o)
Well yeah but you need to be able to hear it , not just memorize the position of the V . That’ll lead to issues when playing live
Is Larry playing the ES 175 here?
@legatoman
the difference between 'theory' and 'practice' is that, in 'theory', there is none.
man, I know just how you feel. It's important to get knocked down a few rungs on the ladder every once in a while, so you know to keep climbing ;)
It ; s not the Bb note I 'm worried about, it 's the F and Eb over the E chord (minor or half diminished I don' t care), because they seem to contradict with E and D(of Emin7b5 chord) by a half step.
@rwmcjazz How can you all compare Scott Henderson and Larry Coryell? Different generations, different styles. Would you compare Django Reinhardt to Pat Metheny? You should listen to the player in the context of the musical period he played in. If you prefer one guitarist to another, that's just a matter of personal taste.
"For knowledge, I'd lean toward Coryell."
And for overall "technical ability" as well. Even the biggest dummkopf would notice such a major detail. If you haven't arrived at this point yet -- then you need to keep learning, living, and playing. Cheers
What? Larry Coryell underestimated? How old are you? This guy was around when Hendrix was just coming on the scene. Larry was so progressive that the corny mob that held the straight-ahead music scene together was blown away by Larry. He was ahead of his time. I'm sure he's disappointed with the way jazz has found its way onto the WAVE in the bland context it's presented. I think guitarists should be more proud of where guitar has its place in history, a ground breaker. Why did Miles turn to it?
Larry we must talk. My moms name if Billie Jean Dugger. Was wondering if you may remember her. Please cco
But really the altered dominant is where it's at :)
Im Glad he stop throwing all those scales at me at 1.28, I just started to panic lol
02:06 escala jazz Bb-
You need really good ears to pick up on lessons like this that and a rewind button. He's kinda funny just the way he is.
@rwmcjazz "Scott Henderson is a very good jazz/blues player and fully understands countless improvisational concepts:
I concur, but really; from the clips I've seen of Scott Henderson - how the fuck did he get a gig with Chick Corea?!? The dude almost sounds like a typical White blues player with a few extra chops than normal. In my opinion, he dosen't have NEAR the virtuosity of a Di Meola, McLaughlin, Gambale, and of course - Coryell. If he does, I haven't seen nor heard it on youtube...
6.35 "Let me just get my wig straight here.." Ha =) Is that what he said?
low key, i've met him. Not a wig.
Met him too. Great guy.
sooo confused...i can't stop watching
Larry, get your wig straight! Great ad lib.
Fat tone....
@legatoman nothing more pathetic than an amateur jazz player lecturing on theory. If you like the sound play it- if you don't - don't. Go practice and age.
my grandmom has the same hair style o.o