My friend and fellow Louisvilian Greg Was a good man..As a amateur National Golden Gloves Champion he signed with Don King and got some glory..before earning it..And he got off to a lazy start..not as hungry as he should have been..But he did it his way..R.I.P. Champ.
@@HarryHeath-pb6rv Page was a very good fighter but he blew hot and cold at times. Coetzee was the same. He had some good wins but some bad losses too.
Greg Page RIP, using his Jersey Joe Walcott-like moves, undermines Gerrie Coetzee's fast left jab and knockout right cross and scores an 8th round KO. Greg Page was brilliant but erratic.
Belburg exactly Page was superior in every way to Coetzee... I won a lot of money on this fight...lol! My friends and I knew Page would beat Coetzee even though it was in Africa.
Poor David Bey. He beats Greg Page to become number one contender but Don King tells him to not fight in South Africa. So he gets Larry Holmes and Don King sends Greg Page for this fight with a guy that had been out of the ring for 14-15 months
Darin Kasaboski It's the breaks.David Bey was a good fighter, but he was lucky that fight was in Las Vegas, anywhere else Page might have pulled it off, it was a close one, and Page really threw it away, in a sense. Even if Coetzee had been active, Page would've beaten him.Too good, though inconsistent.
liveclassictunes That's a good deal.And if he had been smart, Page should've stuck with Butch Lewis, and he would've won the WBA world title two years earlier.
Gerrie Coetzee had to fight with a broken right hand. Received injections before the fight. He asked for the postponement of the fight but promotors did not see their way clear.
Coetzee was an excellent boxer. Only fought the best and beat many of them. These days there is no way you will get a heavyweight champion out of Africa. We had some good heavyweights in Coetzee, Knoetze, Corrie Sanders, Johnny Du Plooy, Pierre Coetzer etc. Since then, there has been nothing. Only other boxer of note in any division, was Brian Mitchell. Since the good 'ol days, boxing is dead in South Africa.
Greg Page has great technique and superb boxing skills who puts me in the mind of another Louisville great who need no introduction. Rest In Power Mr. Page
@@billcollins2798 boxing started falling off when Ali retired, Larry Holmes fought no trilogy with no one. Had no really super memorable fights. SMDH rip Ali you're sorely missed. In a decade or two HW boxing had declined so bad people were watching Stone Cold Steve Austin shucking with Tyson and Rhonda Rousey shucking with everybody.
@@billcollins2798 because of his legal struggles with Don King, Page went on strike in the gym and didn't really train. Hence he lost the belt right after this. The Don King curse
One of the slickest fighters in the business was Greg Page....he was like that in the amateurs. This fight was his finest hour because Coetzee ran his mouth too much.
This fight just reminds me of how bad the WBA champions were: Tate, Weaver, Dokes, Coetzee, Page, Tubbs, Witherspoon, Smith...all forgettable champions...Ali, Holmes, Tyson, those were generational champions. Shame on these governing bodies for splitting up the championship and making the sport irrelevant.
That list is mostly a very talented bunch of indisciplined and erratic boxers.how many of them is still with us?I know Tim& Bonecrusher(the smartest of the lot) are still around.
People kept complaining about Holmes not fighting Page, but when Holmes scrapped the WBC belt in 1983, Holmes next fight was a unification match against Gerrie Coetzee. So Holmes scrapped a 12 round belt for a 15 round belt and tries to unify against Coetzee, but the general public is oblivious to this because you still have people complaining about Holmes not unifying the titles. Well Dokes avoided most of these guys. Dokes was the real dodger. At least Holmes defeated the men who defeated Page, defeated the man who defeated Thomas, defeated the man who defeated Tubbs, defeated the men who defeated Tate, defeated the man who defeated Coetzee, defeated the man who defeated Brouno and the list goes on. Where was the Pinklon Thomas vs Coetzee II since the first fight was a draw and both were champions. I think we need to hold them to the same standards as Holmes. Thomas never talked about unifying with Coetzee. Bottom line, please do not blame Holmes for not unifying the titles. Blame the judge who stopped the Holmes vs Coetzee match.
+Jonathan White I would choose Holmes vs Coetzee than Holmes vs Marvis Frazier, and Page and Tubbs won't be called champions had Larry won the WBA belt, I see no problem for Holmes fighting a 20-0-1 Scott Frank, who drew with Snipes, than a Pinklon Thomas, who would be 21-0-1 at that time and drew with Coetzee, I think Dokes and Thomas were being build up for a later fight with Holmes, but Dokes just doesn't have what it takes to beat Larry and he lost his belt.
Total BS. Holmes fought Marvis Frazier and Scott Frank AFTER Page was made the #1 Contender by beating Snipes. Holmes was given six months to fight Page and he didn't do it. So, he was stripped and Page was matched with Witherspoon for the vacant title. Holmes was handed the IBF title and then sought a unification fight with WBA Champion Gerrie Coetzee. Bottom line, regardless of who we think would have won, Holmes should have kept his obligation to fight the #1 Contender Greg Page. Clearly, Holmes wanted to fight the less risky Scott Frank and Marvis Frazier. In addition, Holmes never did fight Coetzee and Page beat Coetzee. So Page came out lookng good.
Coetzee was in great shape of his fighting career but Page as Dundee predicted nullified him and won on knockout even though the latter seemed bloated as if he had not trained at all.He had skill and proved a very elusive heavyweight.
Most underrated heavyweight champion in history. Pissed off the white establishment when he said Rocky Marciano couldn't carry his jockstrap, which was true. So they made sure he wasn't going to tie Marciano's record and robbed him twice against Spinks.
Got to give it to Page....he went over to South Africa and won the title. I'm surprised he got out of there alive. Coetzee looked very tired and sluggish in this fight? Page did have some power....subsequently he put Tyson on the canvas during a sparring session before Tyson fought Douglas!
@@lourensvdberg6564 I am from America, and anything can happen in the ring. Leon SpInks beat Ali and Buster Douglas ko'd Mike Tyson. I agree I think Holmes would have won, but there is not certainty in a boxing match. Every boxer has a punchers chance. He did knock out Leon Spinks in one round.
Coetzee (WBA champion) was willing to fight Holmes (IBF champion) had he held onto his title and unify the new titles but both organizations said the opposite organization's champions had to fight and win matches against their own organization's Number 1 contender before they would agree to sanction a unification match.
Greg Page was naturally gifted but to stay a Champion he wouldve to be devoted to his career and he many other weren't,Larry Holmes was radically devoted.
RIP Greg Page. As a South African, I must thank you for this fight. Afterwards we were all running in the streets shouting your name.....it was a festival.
Oh I was a Greg Page fan and this was it God the glory he talked to Coetzee when he scored for real Im the coward I'm the punk as he punished him I'd buy those boxing magazines good fight Page had the chin and the focus in this one
Actually, just two fights at the most . Dokes had one defense against Weaver then lost to Coetzee. Coetzee lost to Page the next fight. Page lost to Tubbs the next fight . Then Tubbs lost to Witherspoon. Then Witherspoon lost to Smith . Smith then lost to Tyson. WBA merry go round they called it then.
Same thing happened with the WBC title after Holmes relinquished it. Witherspoon won it when it was vacant against Greg Page, but lost it to Pinklon Thomas who defended it against Mike Weaver then lost it to Trevor Berbick, and Trevor Berbick lost it to Mike Tyson. Witherspoon also held the wba title after beating tubbs and defended it once against Frank Bruno before losing it to James Smith
Greg was a great fighter. He would give any of the top ten all time heavyweights a run for their money any given night. Holmes didn't want to fight him. He knocked down Tyson before Buster Douglas in sparring.
Sport and politics don’t mix. I was 11 years old when that fight took place. Just when fight just started I went to conjure a snack and ended up missing the fight.
Dale Crowe Didn't hit a 1/3 as hard of the top heavyweights in this era those elites Couldnt hurt Greg but all those fights took a toll that night in Erlanger it's ashame how it ended..SMH RIP.Greg!
Gerrie never came in one hundred percent fit and often punched himself out like he did against Mike Weaver a fight he was winning and sadly got knocked out in front of his own people?
I saw Greg Page fight against Joe Bugner in Sydney Australia and came away worried, he looked listless almost washed up and quite frankly should have put Bugner out of business because all Bugner had was a left jab. Greg might have had problems at that stage but he was a very good fighter.
Over 14 months actually but this was his first defense due to dragging out whether he would fight Holmes to unify WBA and IBF titles that never came to fruition.
Greg Page should have fought Stevenson. He lost a bogus decision to Felix Milan a year later. I thought he was the most gifted amateur Heavy I ever saw. Ended up losing the title to Tony Tubbs by getting outworked by a gut who never worked!. Incredible waste of talent.
I never understood Greg Page. I remember him from his amateur days when he was in really good shape and was likened to Muhammad Ali. I don't know what happened to him as a professional. He became bloated, fat, and out of shape. So much talent, so much potential, But never reached it.
Same here. He was one of my favorites. Read somewhere that he was skipping training and stuff, lost discipline. Shame. he would have been one of the GOATs.
He probably never wanted to be a fighter to begin with. Basketball was his sport, and supposedly, his father somewhat pushed him in it. That, and when his father died, a spark probably got killed. Plus, his business acumen sucked.
joe derocco Holmes would have stopped Coetzee in the 12 round.The only two boxers Cotezee stopped were Spinks and Dokes. Coetzee lost to Snipes whom Holmes stopped. Cotezee also lost to Weaver who Holmes stopped. Holmes vs. Coetzee would have been a more action packed version of Tate vs. Coetzee. Tate didnt hurt Coetzee, but Holmes jab would have cut Coetzee. Holmes was supposed to fight Coetzee back in 1984. Holmes stood against apartheid which no one seems to remember so a promoter was going to have them fight in Vegas. Somehow the fight feel through and Holmes fought James Smith instead but Holmes was trying to unify the IBF and WBA titles.
joe derocco That is a good question. It depends on when, where, and how long the rounds were. The best time for both guys might have been somewhere around 1980-1981 before Coetzee fought Weaver or after Cooney fought Norton. Coetzee did not have the punch to take out Cooney. If Tate and Weaver, could get past Coetzee without harm then the same with Cooney. Tate and Weaver had suspect chins. Spinks and Dokes both lived reckless lives which followed them in the ring. No excuse because Coetzee did his job. Cooney was stopped by three hall of famers in Holmes, Spinks, and Foreman. So in a 10 round fight in 1980-81, I would say Cooney could W 10. Cooney performed better against Chaplin and Prater although he fought them after Coetzee.
joe derocco I think for sure Holmes would have beat Coetzee and probably Cooney would have bombed out Coetzee but u never know. It all depends on their mental state since both had fragile ones. I would pick Cooney but like I said, u never know
I think they didn't stop the clock viewed in the audience and for the commentators after the minute of rest between rounds. That's the only thing that makes sense. Otherwise the bell would have rung. Also, if there were any shenanigans it would have been to the benefit of Coetzee since it was in apartheid Sun City. No one protested then or later so I believe my theory is correct.
I think so too, fixed because of politics that the powers that run this sport didn't want someone from South Africa the be the champion. Looked like a dive to me
One of the reasons Larry Holmes is all but forgotten is this. Larry Holmes should have been the one fighting but bailed out over some lame ass protest. Larry missed so many opportunities unlike Ali who had rematches galore all over the world.
Bobby, you got that wrong bud. Larry was suppose to fight Coetzee in June of 84 and the fight got pushed back to August and then September because the promoter of the fight, I cant remember his name right off couldn't come up with the money to do the fight. Both Holmes and Coetzee were due to make close to 8 million and the fight was gonna be in Las Vegas. Both Holmes and Coetzee had been paid upfront money that they got to keep. So when the fight fell through Holmes ended up fighting Bonecrusher Smith who was coming off a KO win over Frank Bruno. Greg Page was coming off back to back losses to Tim Witherspoon and David Bey. The only reason he got the shot with Coetzee is because Don King offered it to him and pretty much said you better take it cause you might not get another opportunity. Most of the other fighters in the division at that time didn't wanna go over to South Africa to fight because of Apartheid.
#BobbyCullari you GOOFY BOZO!!!!!Holmes was never forgotten you BOZO!! The fight did not take place because Cedric Kushner screwed up and didn't have the balance of fund's that he promised to pay Holmes and Coetzee BOZO!!! He paid them $2 mill up front signing bonuses each, to secure the fight, which they kept!! He was supposed to pay out $2mill each on fight night!$8mill all together,but Kushner couldn't secure the loan you BOZO!!!! THATS WHY THE FIGHT NEVER HAPPENED! MAKING IT SOUND LIKE HOLMES WAS SOMEHOW AFRAID OF COETZEE?? BUT FOUGHT THE HARDEST PUNCHER IN HEAVYWEIGHT HISTORY IN SHAVERS TWICE DICKHEAD!! AFRAID OF THE WHITE MAN????NOT SO JACKASS!!!!!
@@djsugebryant281 Thank You DJ for explaining that. It had been a long time since I couldn't remember every detail. I knew they got upfront money I was thinking it was 3 but I wasn't sure. I knew Holmes was trying to secure a really big payday because the money that Don King was trying to offer Holmes to fight Greg Page was nothing. Something like 2.5 million and Holmes wanted 5 million but he was seeing even bigger numbers with Coetzee and at that time he was figuring on one more big fight/payday and then getting out. So when it fell through he started more or less taking the less risk for the most money in his last few fights. I mean before his later comebacks and such.
Gerrie won the first four rounds and then it was Greg Page's fight. (A "waiting game" on Greg's part?) I've always had a warm spot in my heart for Coetzee because he tried so hard with what he had. Page on the other hand was wasted talent professionally and ended up sadly.
Greg Page. One of the most disappointing fighters I had seen in my life. If only this guy took training seriously. For a big guy he had good foot work, great jab, power. Never seen him in great shape. I think if he was he might have dominated. He was a good heavy weight, but could have been great. Remember James Broad the contender. Super Heavy. Broad Axe, or by some others Broad Ass. It was a era of over weight fighters. Watched most coming up on ESPN, USA Network or MSG. Used to be a lot of boxing on tv back then.
RIP Greg Page !!!!! That's funny how he ran across the at start of round 2 I think it was. BUT !!!!!!!~ Bell rings,,,,,Its time to FIGHT !!!!!!!!! Coetzee was talking shit during fight so I don't blame him. I bet his seconds got out the ring before bell after that !!!! LOL
Realistically, Coetzee was a glorified club fighter who got many more opportunities than he earned. Wooden legs, no defense and a dubious chin. The Ws against Dokes and Spinks were fine (arguably, given the active addictions of those fighters at the time), and that was about it.
Coetzee appeared to be in much better shape for his fight with Dokes. He looked off from the beginning of the fight. It appears as if Coetzee did not prepare properly for this fight. Coetzee rallied well in the 7th when looked like he was toast. Page came thru, making the most out f his opportunity.
I have never seen a referee like this clown dressed as a Mariachi.He didn't see Page rudhing at the Coetzee's corner men in round 2 and he let the final round going over 3.30 minutes.Page looked like superior but Coetzee didn't deserve to lose his belt like this,there should have been a rematch.
I'm not a fan of Page (he wasted his natural gifts), and I don't know what Coetze's political beliefs were. I do know this was seen as victory over apartheid.
Only in Don Kings world can you stretch a round an extra minute so your fighter can win the title and end the talk of Holmes ducking coetzee because Holmes did duck him. No rematch nothing just a theft in Kings world. King is a maggott. Page would have lost if the round ended when it was suppose to.
Maybe Don King knew he could rally the entire world of so-called "black" people against the likes of Gerrie Coetzee to tune it. Like it or not, Coetzee and Kallie Knoetze represented white South Africa. So King did it for not only money but to have a "villain".
@chrisreynecke 3129 Page ran away Gerrie could beat him sexy here whas for me not right at that moment also took a year to fight but Gerrie were the better boxer
When apartheid was at it's peak, a proud, brave black man named Greg Page traveled over to South Africa and knocked out South Africa's symbol of white supremacy. THANK YOU, Mr.Page, and R.I.P.
He doesn't. Page took a tremendous shot, and Gerrie took a decent shot as well. Holmes was scared to fight Page, hence him abandoning the title in 1983.
After losing his fight to Tony Tubbs in a WBA world title defense, Greg Page was no longer a top notch fighter. So after 1985, Page was a done fighter.
3 minutes and 50 seconds. That was what it was. Yep, another decision based on foul play disguised. And not too well I might say. Oh well, life goes on and history notches up another "who done it" moment. By the way, if you are of a mind to, pick up the Bible and read what John says. Please!
Oh what a left hand!Gerrie got KTFO! Epic beat down in Sun City. This fight was a key to the end of apartheid. The "dominant"race got destroyed in a fair fight. Think they are still counting over Terrie!
I think you should keep your uninformed political opinions to yourself. Whites never genocided black people in South Africa. If you are from South Africa you should know it. Basically you sound uneducated. The genocides which took place were in Rwanda (black on black) and in Zimbabwe where Mugabe's army killed 30 000 people of the NdBele tribe. They were civilians-men, women and children....that is to name only 2 cases of genocide. And yes, babies too. Do you want to know how they did it? Pregnant women were stripped, their bellies sliced open with machetes, the fetuses ripped out of their bodies and crushed under their boots. That's African renaissance for you...but then you are probably not even an African, so why the fuss? The Africans call you black white men. And then this is supposed to be sport,and political opinions do not belong here. That goes for all.. Those 2 boxers treated each other with far more respect than some of the comments here indicate.
Why tell the result ! We can’t all be 65. Years. Just resent I saw hm win coerzey But . He made his cash. And not that many ever became champ. Even the periods are week or strong due to contenders. It goes like waves .
@Klaus Atheist HELLO! I was curious..why do you call yourself "GOOD WITHOUT GOD?" The bible says that "all of our GOOD WORKS are like FILTHY RAGS" before God!
ZION82able quite simple. I don’t know which god you are referring to. But almost any believers have a geographical god, so in that sense you’re an atheist as I. You just need one more to get rid off. But if that imaginary entity is so good and almighty, why all that suffering in the world. The Bible is the most self contradictory book I ever had read ( this goes for all so called holy book) the golden rule is common sense and don’t tell me they have to climb a mountain before they found out about what seems to be a natural thing. But since everyone thinks their is the one and only, they have been killed and fighting for centuries. Why . Besides that, there’s is not the slightest evidence for a god in religious sense. A energy which doesn’t care the slightest about humanity, animals and the earth. So why do this pangburn of incredible wisdom not make every thing good. Because he’s is man made and its a disgrace parents brainwashed their children into such a delusional mind. You will never admit it, but frankly you are a victim of generations of believers. So join us into atheism or agnostic behaviour. I can’t prove god don’t exist, but he ain’t good, almighty that is just to look at the news everyday. Give me the power you claim this thing has and no living thing will ever suffer again. I feel sorry, but it’s time to stop and be humble enough as science and admit we were wrong. The sun does not move around the earth. If we can’t get rid of religion, so let it be a private matter and not a suppressing ideology especially against women. So which god do you believe in and what do you think about all the other gods there have been the last 2000 years. . I don’t think you will go to your priest when you have to be treated for cancer. You will use science. And how come nobody ever had grown a new arm, leg etc. remember he’s is almighty. At least on paper. Just answer which god is the one and only, and please not by quoting from that books.
@Klause I'm talking about JESUS! He's God! And He loves you! As far as evidence of God, just look in the MIRROR..who made that beautiful person? HE DID! I know that you'll probably say your parents made you, but that's not what I mean..God created man. And man has sinned against Him. We ALL have. Just think, Klaus..how many lies have you told in your life? How many times have you taken His name in vain? Ever stolen? Ever looked at a person to lust after them? If you've ever done any of these things (and we ALL have) then you will stand guilty before a holy God when you die and be sent into hell. But God sent His perfect Son Jesus to the world to suffer and shed His blood to pay for the sins that WE did. And if we put our trust in Jesus and repent (or turn away from) our sins, we'll be taken to heaven when we die. Some theologians call it "THE GREAT EXCHANGE"..God takes away our dirty sins and gives us His Sons perfect holiness! I pray that you'll do this today! Patrick
ZION82able No offend but fuck Jesus . Historian searchers-are not sure he lived( this name is like smith. And it could easily have been several people. Who created me evolution. Who created your faith.!your parents. But as I knew you haven’t addressed one of my arguments. Because you don’t know how to argue about which god is the right. You are a creationist. Sorry that should be regarded as an illnesses of serious mental issues.. how can a person end up so ignorant. It’s beyond me!. I will thank your god for making me an atheist. I care about my life. I don’t have any job because of your God sent some illness- why don’t he show him self, he promise to come back before his followers we’re getting too old?. What about all kinds of religion are they wrong? Maybe I’m beautiful-!so is my mother! And she claims that her man is my father. . You sir need to rewind your brain. Start reading Bertrand Russell why I’m not a Christian! Frankly you’re not! You cherry-picking among the horrible things and read the acceptable things. You are able to do that with even Mein Kamp ! The Bible as a book was created in year 387. Because of fractions of devided believers.! And it was from that moment Jesus became god’s son. Don’t you know that ? If you want to believe I could care less, but when believers are fighting all over the world. This is insane. And I will fight for my and everybody to be gays if they want or whatever! And women too be equal with men! And don’t think there is a thing who’s judging you. You can live a hole life and when you dies, your will be split into atoms. I demand paradise now! And since it don’t gonna happens I will use the golden rule! Be towards others as you want to be treated. If you don’t address my questions- stop writing!
PAGE HAD RYTHEM AND SOUL AND WAS ABLE TO ELUDE ALL OF GERRIES PUNCHINGPOWER ITS JUST ONE THING THE WHITE MAN DOES NOT HAVE RYTHEM AND SOUL .. PAGE HAD MORE QUICKNESS
Yeah, man, he was a real shuck 'n jive live minstrel show. No wonder he beat Coetzee, he put the 'ol' soul kaibash' on him. Dat was dat black voodoo, I tell ya'!!
Oh yes, this ethnocentric, homeristic, black man, speaking of the advantage that black men as pugilists have because of their ability to shuck n jive unlike white folk... whatisitheactuall what-da-f&%#!!!
Hey, remember 'too sir with love' w Sydney pointier. Well he dances at the end with his dough eyed student, and he kinda' has this nervous squirl, hamster feeling groove goin' on. Not like innately good moves, nor very athletic, but hey he's black, he's Sydney pointier... soooooo, he must be shukin' n jiving' too, RIGHT??? Well, golly them black folk sure have alota rhythm, and so musical, hmmmmm........
@@Belburg Page was lazy and Thomas still was not at the same level as a declining Holmes at this point. Neither figher really made a case for a fight with Holmes if memory serves me. But how could you when you're losing fights to guys like David Bey.
bertellish...You talk all that racist bullshit, but you weren't even in the ring, so fuck do you care? Coetzee would surely have beat your ass any day, just like Page would have. Just like either Klitchko would have too. The best you can do is cheer on your black boxing heroes from your cell phone, so how does that make you so proud? If Klitchko dominates boxing for over a decade or whatever it was, how does that make me a better man? Answer is that it doesn't, but at least I don't live vicariously through others' accomplishment, ya' fake assed buster.
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Goodbye gerrie. You inspired me as a boy.i won't forget you my friend.
My friend and fellow Louisvilian Greg Was a good man..As a amateur National Golden Gloves Champion he signed with Don King and got some glory..before earning it..And he got off to a lazy start..not as hungry as he should have been..But he did it his way..R.I.P. Champ.
and he seemed like a super nice guy.
R.I.P. Gerrie Coetzee
Coetzee passed away last week at the age of 67. Page and Dokes are long gone as well as Tate. Hopefully, they are all resting in peace now.
Amen
Coetzee was on a high after flattening Dokes spoiling himself treated himself to a hairdo then got creamed yeah it's happens all the time sometimes!
@@HarryHeath-pb6rv Page was a very good fighter but he blew hot and cold at times. Coetzee was the same. He had some good wins but some bad losses too.
One thing about Gerrie when his back hits the mat that's IT.
Greg Page RIP, using his Jersey Joe Walcott-like moves, undermines Gerrie Coetzee's fast left jab and knockout right cross and scores an 8th round KO. Greg Page was brilliant but erratic.
Don't forget Page was faster than Coetzee, and had better boxing ability.But was overweight most of the time.
Belburg
exactly Page was superior in every way to Coetzee... I won a lot of money on this fight...lol! My friends and I knew Page would beat Coetzee even though it was in Africa.
Poor David Bey. He beats Greg Page to become number one contender but Don King tells him to not fight in South Africa. So he gets Larry Holmes and Don King sends Greg Page for this fight with a guy that had been out of the ring for 14-15 months
Darin Kasaboski It's the breaks.David Bey was a good fighter, but he was lucky that fight was in Las Vegas, anywhere else Page might have pulled it off, it was a close one, and Page really threw it away, in a sense. Even if Coetzee had been active, Page would've beaten him.Too good, though inconsistent.
liveclassictunes That's a good deal.And if he had been smart, Page should've stuck with Butch Lewis, and he would've won the WBA world title two years earlier.
RIP Greg Page
Gerrie Coetzee had to fight with a broken right hand. Received injections before the fight. He asked for the postponement of the fight but promotors did not see their way clear.
Coetzee was an excellent boxer. Only fought the best and beat many of them. These days there is no way you will get a heavyweight champion out of Africa. We had some good heavyweights in Coetzee, Knoetze, Corrie Sanders, Johnny Du Plooy, Pierre Coetzer etc. Since then, there has been nothing. Only other boxer of note in any division, was Brian Mitchell. Since the good 'ol days, boxing is dead in South Africa.
Frans Botha?
This fight sold an insane amount of tickets
Greg Page has great technique and superb boxing skills who puts me in the mind of another Louisville great who need no introduction. Rest In Power Mr. Page
Early on, Page boxed a lot like Ali (dancing, jabbing and effective counterpunching). As his career advanced, he went away from that. Why?
@@billcollins2798 boxing started falling off when Ali retired, Larry Holmes fought no trilogy with no one. Had no really super memorable fights. SMDH rip Ali you're sorely missed. In a decade or two HW boxing had declined so bad people were watching Stone Cold Steve Austin shucking with Tyson and Rhonda Rousey shucking with everybody.
@@billcollins2798 because of his legal struggles with Don King, Page went on strike in the gym and didn't really train. Hence he lost the belt right after this.
The Don King curse
Always some excuse . The real reason is Page was overrated. @@martincurran6432
Yeah he was great here he had that Jersey Joe Walcott style working good
One of the slickest fighters in the business was Greg Page....he was like that in the amateurs. This fight was his finest hour because Coetzee ran his mouth too much.
This fight just reminds me of how bad the WBA champions were: Tate, Weaver, Dokes, Coetzee, Page, Tubbs, Witherspoon, Smith...all forgettable champions...Ali, Holmes, Tyson, those were generational champions. Shame on these governing bodies for splitting up the championship and making the sport irrelevant.
That list is mostly a very talented bunch of indisciplined and erratic boxers.how many of them is still with us?I know Tim& Bonecrusher(the smartest of the lot) are still around.
@@annmarieclarke9107 Tubbs Coetzee and Weaver are all still alive!
@@darrenhenry7407 thanks.
XD that's a stupid thing to say considering Witherspoon beat Holmes ass and got robbed.
@@williamsmith1803 lost in 1 round to Bonecrusher Smith...what a champion
If only 5% of Coetsee's punches hit a bit more than just air, he might have been able to retain his title.
Berbick vs Coetze would have been a good fight
People kept complaining about Holmes not fighting Page, but when Holmes scrapped the WBC belt in 1983, Holmes next fight was a unification match against Gerrie Coetzee. So Holmes scrapped a 12 round belt for a 15 round belt and tries to unify against Coetzee, but the general public is oblivious to this because you still have people complaining about Holmes not unifying the titles. Well Dokes avoided most of these guys. Dokes was the real dodger. At least Holmes defeated the men who defeated Page, defeated the man who defeated Thomas, defeated the man who defeated Tubbs, defeated the men who defeated Tate, defeated the man who defeated Coetzee, defeated the man who defeated Brouno and the list goes on. Where was the Pinklon Thomas vs Coetzee II since the first fight was a draw and both were champions. I think we need to hold them to the same standards as Holmes. Thomas never talked about unifying with Coetzee. Bottom line, please do not blame Holmes for not unifying the titles. Blame the judge who stopped the Holmes vs Coetzee match.
+Jonathan White I would choose Holmes vs Coetzee than Holmes vs Marvis Frazier, and Page and Tubbs won't be called champions had Larry won the WBA belt, I see no problem for Holmes fighting a 20-0-1 Scott Frank, who drew with Snipes, than a Pinklon Thomas, who would be 21-0-1 at that time and drew with Coetzee, I think Dokes and Thomas were being build up for a later fight with Holmes, but Dokes just doesn't have what it takes to beat Larry and he lost his belt.
+Jonathan White Holmes had the best jab that the heavyweight division has ever seen. Ever.
Total BS. Holmes fought Marvis Frazier and Scott Frank AFTER Page was made the #1 Contender by beating Snipes. Holmes was given six months to fight Page and he didn't do it. So, he was stripped and Page was matched with Witherspoon for the vacant title. Holmes was handed the IBF title and then sought a unification fight with WBA Champion Gerrie Coetzee. Bottom line, regardless of who we think would have won, Holmes should have kept his obligation to fight the #1 Contender Greg Page. Clearly, Holmes wanted to fight the less risky Scott Frank and Marvis Frazier. In addition, Holmes never did fight Coetzee and Page beat Coetzee. So Page came out lookng good.
Holmes fought on his own terms. Not King or Suliamans. He could whip any of these guys. Page wasted his talent. Coulda been super.
Dokes also dodged tyson
Tough fight, but Paige wanted it more!!! R.I.P GREG PAIGE!!!
Amazing boxing Gerrie
Round 8 was 4 minutes long. Is that the longest round in history?
there have been a few stupid 4 minute rounds. I saw a 2-minute round on ESPN one time .
Same thing happened in a Kirkland laing fight in Italy, hoping the local would get a ko by any means
Coetzee was in great shape of his fighting career but Page as Dundee predicted nullified him and won on knockout even though the latter seemed bloated as if he had not trained at all.He had skill and proved a very elusive heavyweight.
Dundee is seldom right in his predictions. Blatantly bad.
@@flexibleatheist Sour grapes from Dundee, he thought Gerrie was going to get him to train him, instead Gerrie went with Jackie McCoy.
Neither of these two would have lasted 5 rounds with THE Heavyweight Champ of 1978 to 1985 Larry Holmes
Most underrated heavyweight champion in history. Pissed off the white establishment when he said Rocky Marciano couldn't carry his jockstrap, which was true. So they made sure he wasn't going to tie Marciano's record and robbed him twice against Spinks.
@@TheNYgolfer Gerrie Coetzee knocked out Spinks within the first 2minutes of round one after his fight with Ali.
@@Appregator Ali was whashed up at that point
They both would. And a motivated Page beats Larry at this point.
Or Tyson Fury.
Got to give it to Page....he went over to South Africa and won the title. I'm surprised he got out of there alive. Coetzee looked very tired and sluggish in this fight? Page did have some power....subsequently he put Tyson on the canvas during a sparring session before Tyson fought Douglas!
"I'm surprised he got out of there alive." Ease up on the drama there, dude!
would have loved to see a holmes vs coetzee title fight .
yes and cooney vs coetzee
I'm from south Africa Holmes tko 7 round coetzee
I DONT KNOW WHY COETZEE WOULD HAVE GOT KNOCKED OUT FIRST ROUND
@@lourensvdberg6564 I am from America, and anything can happen in the ring. Leon SpInks beat Ali and Buster Douglas ko'd Mike Tyson. I agree I think Holmes would have won, but there is not certainty in a boxing match. Every boxer has a punchers chance. He did knock out Leon Spinks in one round.
@@lourensvdberg6564 I'm from Puerto Rico and I agree with you Louren 👍
Neither of these two were capable of beating Larry Holmes, with multiple belts you get second rate 'champions'.
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Greg Page probably could have in 1983, provided his head was right.
Coetzee (WBA champion) was willing to fight Holmes (IBF champion) had he held onto his title and unify the new titles but both organizations said the opposite organization's champions had to fight and win matches against their own organization's Number 1 contender before they would agree to sanction a unification match.
Very true.
That's why boxing needs to bring back round robin tournaments in all divisions to get an undisputed World Champion.
Holmes also claim to fame was he was the first Heavyweight Champion to lose his belt to a Light Heavyweight title holder.
I wonder how much further Coetzee would have gone if he hadn't taken those after-round hits...
Man, I remember this fight.
A big upset, I didn’t think Page would dethrone Gerrie.
Thanks for the memories.
I watched it too..but I was still very young ..
Greg Page was naturally gifted but to stay a Champion he wouldve to be devoted to his career and he many other weren't,Larry Holmes was radically devoted.
RIP Greg Page. As a South African, I must thank you for this fight. Afterwards we were all running in the streets shouting your name.....it was a festival.
We were fighting the system; by any means we could. Unless you have experienced life under apartheid as a Black person, shut up.
Why not thank GOD .Do you think it was Page who really caused THAT knockout .
@@danial6109 Who created Page?
Greg Page knocked out The Apartheid
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Rip Greg Page
Gerrie whas not in shape other wise page would fall
Coaster was open for a right hook app along. Page delivers it.
Oh I was a Greg Page fan and this was it God the glory he talked to Coetzee when he scored for real Im the coward I'm the punk as he punished him I'd buy those boxing magazines good fight Page had the chin and the focus in this one
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hey the bell rang 29.33 at 32.33 the 8th round was over.....that's pretty bad....south africa
both these guys could fight
Beautiful knockout. Except for holmes nobody seemed able to hold onto their belt for more than 3 fights until tyson
Actually, just two fights at the most . Dokes had one defense against Weaver then lost to Coetzee. Coetzee lost to Page the next fight. Page lost to Tubbs the next fight . Then Tubbs lost to Witherspoon. Then Witherspoon lost to Smith . Smith then lost to Tyson. WBA merry go round they called it then.
@@joeygonzo yeah I've watched them all and despite popular conception some of them were good fights
Tate had no defenses after winning it from Coetzee, Weaver defended it against Coetzee and James Tillis before losing it to Dokes
Same thing happened with the WBC title after Holmes relinquished it. Witherspoon won it when it was vacant against Greg Page, but lost it to Pinklon Thomas who defended it against Mike Weaver then lost it to Trevor Berbick, and Trevor Berbick lost it to Mike Tyson. Witherspoon also held the wba title after beating tubbs and defended it once against Frank Bruno before losing it to James Smith
Page holding Gerrie here whas very lucky Gerrie could nock him out but he keep on holding
Greg was a great fighter. He would give any of the top ten all time heavyweights a run for their money any given night. Holmes didn't want to fight him. He knocked down Tyson before Buster Douglas in sparring.
Sport and politics don’t mix. I was 11 years old when that fight took place. Just when fight just started I went to conjure a snack and ended up missing the fight.
Coetzee took this fight because he believed Page didn't have a ko punch. In the fight Page said when I hit him I told him how's this punch!
I've seen the Greg Page street in Louisville.
He was knocked out in a long round. It should either been ruled a No Contest or they should have gone to the scorecards through the 7th round.
If it went to the scorecards Page would've still won
Where is Gerrie now??
dead
Thanks for the video, KATIS999
Page's best moment.
As accomplishment, yes. Best fight he ever fought, hell no.
It certainly was one of his better performances and right under the noses of the racist white South Africans.
Greg page whooped em badly
at his peak Greg Page was one helluva fighter...
Did Cotzee becoming a champ get buttered up for the fall ya know women .wine beer It got Dokes for sure
@@harryheath4175 That I don't know, Harry.. Maybe someone else out there does!
He was, for a couple of fights. If his heart was more in the game, who knows.
Dale Crowe Didn't hit a 1/3 as hard of the top heavyweights in this era those elites Couldnt hurt Greg but all those fights took a toll that night in Erlanger it's ashame how it ended..SMH RIP.Greg!
Gerrie never came in one hundred percent fit and often punched himself out like he did against Mike Weaver a fight he was winning and sadly got knocked out in front of his own people?
There's two tough cookies... Big time
Should not loose gerrie
If you do NOT know the history berigte the start of this fight ,then remain Silent !
The only time Greg Page trained hard for a fight.. Page would have been champ for a long time if he had only trained hard.
Gerrie had an injection before this fight that put him to sleep and he wasnt himself.
I saw Greg Page fight against Joe Bugner in Sydney Australia and came away worried, he looked listless almost washed up and quite frankly should have put Bugner out of business because all Bugner had was a left jab. Greg might have had problems at that stage but he was a very good fighter.
@robertt,, Jour lust would pick up trouble with Gerrie,,,Dokes and Weaver
why did page did not keep the title for long??? looks good in this fight....he went on to be tysons sparring partner later
Stuff was happening behind the scenes with Don King.
Page had plenty of talent and laziness to match.
@@Salieri47 Very true.
The round was 50 seconds too long!
Never seen that before....insane mistake!
Gerrie Knockedoutzeeaaah!
That sure was a short reign as Champ.
Over 14 months actually but this was his first defense due to dragging out whether he would fight Holmes to unify WBA and IBF titles that never came to fruition.
Greg Page should have fought Stevenson. He lost a bogus decision to Felix Milan a year later. I thought he was the most gifted amateur Heavy I ever saw. Ended up losing the title to Tony Tubbs by getting outworked by a gut who never worked!. Incredible waste of talent.
Stevenson, who ?
Stevenson, I believe was a professional "amateur", Cuban Olympic champion
Stevenson lost to Igor Vysotsky twice, and Greg and Jimmy Clark and Angel Milian beat him.
how many heavy weight champions of the world do they have seems to be one in every country what a joke
I never understood Greg Page. I remember him from his amateur days when he was in really good shape and was likened to Muhammad Ali. I don't know what happened to him as a professional. He became bloated, fat, and out of shape. So much talent, so much potential, But never reached it.
eatin all that churches chicken that's what happened lmao
Same here. He was one of my favorites. Read somewhere that he was skipping training and stuff, lost discipline. Shame. he would have been one of the GOATs.
He probably never wanted to be a fighter to begin with. Basketball was his sport, and supposedly, his father somewhat pushed him in it. That, and when his father died, a spark probably got killed. Plus, his business acumen sucked.
Put Tyson down in training too, just before the Buster Douglas fight.
His weight ballooned between fights, and he wouldn't train properly. A focused and dedicated Page would've been a great champion.
greg a way more advanced ali
Coetzee didn't capitalize when Page got out of trouble by moving to his left. A hard right would of shook him?
can anyone offer up who they think would have won, holmes vs coetzee or coney vs coetzee
joe derocco Holmes would have stopped Coetzee in the 12 round.The only two boxers Cotezee stopped were Spinks and Dokes. Coetzee lost to Snipes whom Holmes stopped. Cotezee also lost to Weaver who Holmes stopped. Holmes vs. Coetzee would have been a more action packed version of Tate vs. Coetzee. Tate didnt hurt Coetzee, but Holmes jab would have cut Coetzee. Holmes was supposed to fight Coetzee back in 1984. Holmes stood against apartheid which no one seems to remember so a promoter was going to have them fight in Vegas. Somehow the fight feel through and Holmes fought James Smith instead but Holmes was trying to unify the IBF and WBA titles.
Jonathan White what about coetzee vs coney
joe derocco That is a good question. It depends on when, where, and how long the rounds were. The best time for both guys might have been somewhere around 1980-1981 before Coetzee fought Weaver or after Cooney fought Norton. Coetzee did not have the punch to take out Cooney. If Tate and Weaver, could get past Coetzee without harm then the same with Cooney. Tate and Weaver had suspect chins. Spinks and Dokes both lived reckless lives which followed them in the ring. No excuse because Coetzee did his job. Cooney was stopped by three hall of famers in Holmes, Spinks, and Foreman. So in a 10 round fight in 1980-81, I would say Cooney could W 10. Cooney performed better against Chaplin and Prater although he fought them after Coetzee.
joe derocco I think for sure Holmes would have beat Coetzee and probably Cooney would have bombed out Coetzee but u never know. It all depends on their mental state since both had fragile ones. I would pick Cooney but like I said, u never know
Agreed. I think Cooney wins too.
Hmm, that was strange .. The 8th round was way over 3mins long in a round that should have been under 3mins due to the knockout.
I think they didn't stop the clock viewed in the audience and for the commentators after the minute of rest between rounds. That's the only thing that makes sense. Otherwise the bell would have rung. Also, if there were any shenanigans it would have been to the benefit of Coetzee since it was in apartheid Sun City. No one protested then or later so I believe my theory is correct.
I think so too, fixed because of politics that the powers that run this sport didn't want someone from South Africa the be the champion. Looked like a dive to me
One of the reasons Larry Holmes is all but forgotten is this.
Larry Holmes should have been the one fighting but bailed out over some lame ass protest. Larry missed so many opportunities unlike Ali who had rematches galore all over the world.
We Black South Africans suffering under apartheid then, will always love and respect Larry Holmes for that.
Bobby, you got that wrong bud. Larry was suppose to fight Coetzee in June of 84 and the fight got pushed back to August and then September because the promoter of the fight, I cant remember his name right off couldn't come up with the money to do the fight. Both Holmes and Coetzee were due to make close to 8 million and the fight was gonna be in Las Vegas. Both Holmes and Coetzee had been paid upfront money that they got to keep. So when the fight fell through Holmes ended up fighting Bonecrusher Smith who was coming off a KO win over Frank Bruno. Greg Page was coming off back to back losses to Tim Witherspoon and David Bey. The only reason he got the shot with Coetzee is because Don King offered it to him and pretty much said you better take it cause you might not get another opportunity. Most of the other fighters in the division at that time didn't wanna go over to South Africa to fight because of Apartheid.
@@curtismcneil8695 maybe Cedric Kushner? (the promoter)
#BobbyCullari you GOOFY BOZO!!!!!Holmes was never forgotten you BOZO!! The fight did not take place because Cedric Kushner screwed up and didn't have the balance of fund's that he promised to pay Holmes and Coetzee BOZO!!! He paid them $2 mill up front signing bonuses each, to secure the fight, which they kept!! He was supposed to pay out $2mill each on fight night!$8mill all together,but Kushner couldn't secure the loan you BOZO!!!! THATS WHY THE FIGHT NEVER HAPPENED! MAKING IT SOUND LIKE HOLMES WAS SOMEHOW AFRAID OF COETZEE?? BUT FOUGHT THE HARDEST PUNCHER IN HEAVYWEIGHT HISTORY IN SHAVERS TWICE DICKHEAD!! AFRAID OF THE WHITE MAN????NOT SO JACKASS!!!!!
@@djsugebryant281 Thank You DJ for explaining that. It had been a long time since I couldn't remember every detail. I knew they got upfront money I was thinking it was 3 but I wasn't sure. I knew Holmes was trying to secure a really big payday because the money that Don King was trying to offer Holmes to fight Greg Page was nothing. Something like 2.5 million and Holmes wanted 5 million but he was seeing even bigger numbers with Coetzee and at that time he was figuring on one more big fight/payday and then getting out. So when it fell through he started more or less taking the less risk for the most money in his last few fights. I mean before his later comebacks and such.
Greg Page flattened Coetzee 😆
Gerrie lay of to long and how do I fight with a broken hand
Gerrie won the first four rounds and then it was Greg Page's fight. (A "waiting game" on Greg's part?) I've always had a warm spot in my heart for Coetzee because he tried so hard with what he had. Page on the other hand was wasted talent professionally and ended up sadly.
that is because gerrie had no stamina and a weak chin. last half of the fight he just stood there not having enough to get out of the way
Gerrie did the job good round one hee should nock Page out,,,,
Greg Page. One of the most disappointing fighters I had seen in my life. If only this guy took training seriously. For a big guy he had good foot work, great jab, power. Never seen him in great shape. I think if he was he might have dominated. He was a good heavy weight, but could have been great. Remember James Broad the contender. Super Heavy. Broad Axe, or by some others Broad Ass. It was a era of over weight fighters. Watched most coming up on ESPN, USA Network or MSG. Used to be a lot of boxing on tv back then.
That white guy was a very good boxer
KO'd nearly FOUR minutes into a 3 minute round... hmm...
Man...I have no idea what fight these guys are watching. Page is boxing his ears off! Gutsy scrap by both men.
Coetzee had to many missed punches, he could never seem to find his range in this fight.
Gerrie wasted potential always unfit punching himself out like this fight?
RIP Greg Page !!!!! That's funny how he ran across the at start of round 2 I think it was. BUT !!!!!!!~ Bell rings,,,,,Its time to FIGHT !!!!!!!!! Coetzee was talking shit during fight so I don't blame him. I bet his seconds got out the ring before bell after that !!!! LOL
Realistically, Coetzee was a glorified club fighter who got many more opportunities than he earned. Wooden legs, no defense and a dubious chin. The Ws against Dokes and Spinks were fine (arguably, given the active addictions of those fighters at the time), and that was about it.
No excuses he beat both of them soundly. Excuses are for punks.
Coetzee appeared to be in much better shape for his fight with Dokes. He looked off from the beginning of the fight. It appears as if Coetzee did not prepare properly for this fight. Coetzee rallied well in the 7th when looked like he was toast. Page came thru, making the most out f his opportunity.
The difference between page fight and Dokes fight, page was more elusive and Jabbed more, and that's broken Coetzee timing. Page slick fighter.
@petermurphy I'll tell u Coetzee whas Quick and move better then Holmes I'll go with Coetzee
I have never seen a referee like this clown dressed as a Mariachi.He didn't see Page rudhing at the Coetzee's corner men in round 2 and he let the final round going over 3.30 minutes.Page looked like superior but Coetzee didn't deserve to lose his belt like this,there should have been a rematch.
Frédéric Avalli Don't know what fight you were looking at!!
***** Simply the clock showing that when Coetzee was knocked out the round was going to beginning his fourth minute!
Ohhh.But Coetzee was through Regardless!!
@@AnnaAnnaYes Speculation is not how boxing is won.
I'm not a fan of Page (he wasted his natural gifts), and I don't know what Coetze's political beliefs were. I do know this was seen as victory over apartheid.
I love that white guy
Only in Don Kings world can you stretch a round an extra minute so your fighter can win the title and end the talk of Holmes ducking coetzee because Holmes did duck him. No rematch nothing just a theft in Kings world. King is a maggott. Page would have lost if the round ended when it was suppose to.
Gerrie was not beating Greg that night, and if I remember correctly, was one of the few fighters Gerrie wasn't really estatic about fighting.
Gotta love Don King. Promoted fights in South Africa during apartheid . lol
Hey Don, who's the racist now ?
Jack Ridge just bc don king is a con man and a hypocrite doesnt mean racism doesnt exist
Awe baby at least he shined a little
Maybe Don King knew he could rally the entire world of so-called "black" people against the likes of Gerrie Coetzee to tune it. Like it or not, Coetzee and Kallie Knoetze represented white South Africa. So King did it for not only money but to have a "villain".
Not him ....you had to agree on contract terms
Black Vitriol so would Bob Arum and Shelly Funnel
Page gets a tirle shot coming off 2 losses??then loses his next 2 after this
Don King
@chrisreynecke 3129 Page ran away Gerrie could beat him sexy here whas for me not right at that moment also took a year to fight but Gerrie were the better boxer
When apartheid was at it's peak, a proud, brave black man named Greg Page traveled over to South Africa and knocked out South Africa's symbol of white supremacy. THANK YOU, Mr.Page, and R.I.P.
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Only a fool thinks Holmes doesn't put both of these guys away.
He doesn't. Page took a tremendous shot, and Gerrie took a decent shot as well. Holmes was scared to fight Page, hence him abandoning the title in 1983.
Vastly overrated Page couldn't even beat an old Joe Bugner even when he was still in his prime , Page is just another bum.
After losing his fight to Tony Tubbs in a WBA world title defense, Greg Page was no longer a top notch fighter. So after 1985, Page was a done fighter.
3 minutes and 50 seconds. That was what it was. Yep, another decision based on foul play disguised. And not too well I might say. Oh well, life goes on and history notches up another "who done it" moment. By the way, if you are of a mind to, pick up the Bible and read what John says. Please!
Sun City. Synonymous with South African apartheid.
Oh what a left hand!Gerrie got KTFO! Epic beat down in Sun City. This fight was a key to the end of apartheid. The "dominant"race got destroyed in a fair fight. Think they are still counting over Terrie!
I think you should keep your uninformed political opinions to yourself. Whites never genocided black people in South Africa. If you are from South Africa you should know it. Basically you sound uneducated. The genocides which took place were in Rwanda (black on black) and in Zimbabwe where Mugabe's army killed 30 000 people of the NdBele tribe. They were civilians-men, women and children....that is to name only 2 cases of genocide. And yes, babies too. Do you want to know how they did it? Pregnant women were stripped, their bellies sliced open with machetes, the fetuses ripped out of their bodies and crushed under their boots. That's African renaissance for you...but then you are probably not even an African, so why the fuss? The Africans call you black white men. And then this is supposed to be sport,and political opinions do not belong here. That goes for all.. Those 2 boxers treated each other with far more respect than some of the comments here indicate.
daveyork0 you know ite all that you can think about is racism you dont even know our people
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page had everything except a good knock out punch
Greg could take you out with either hand. If anything, his power was underrated, especially the left hand.
Why tell the result ! We can’t all be 65. Years. Just resent I saw hm win coerzey But . He made his cash. And not that many ever became champ. Even the periods are week or strong due to contenders. It goes like waves .
@Klaus Atheist HELLO! I was curious..why do you call yourself "GOOD WITHOUT GOD?" The bible says that "all of our GOOD WORKS are like FILTHY RAGS" before God!
ZION82able quite simple. I don’t know which god you are referring to. But almost any believers have a geographical god, so in that sense you’re an atheist as I. You just need one more to get rid off. But if that imaginary entity is so good and almighty, why all that suffering in the world. The Bible is the most self contradictory book I ever had read ( this goes for all so called holy book) the golden rule is common sense and don’t tell me they have to climb a mountain before they found out about what seems to be a natural thing. But since everyone thinks their is the one and only, they have been killed and fighting for centuries. Why . Besides that, there’s is not the slightest evidence for a god in religious sense. A energy which doesn’t care the slightest about humanity, animals and the earth. So why do this pangburn of incredible wisdom not make every thing good. Because he’s is man made and its a disgrace parents brainwashed their children into such a delusional mind. You will never admit it, but frankly you are a victim of generations of believers. So join us into atheism or agnostic behaviour. I can’t prove god don’t exist, but he ain’t good, almighty that is just to look at the news everyday. Give me the power you claim this thing has and no living thing will ever suffer again. I feel sorry, but it’s time to stop and be humble enough as science and admit we were wrong. The sun does not move around the earth. If we can’t get rid of religion, so let it be a private matter and not a suppressing ideology especially against women. So which god do you believe in and what do you think about all the other gods there have been the last 2000 years. . I don’t think you will go to your priest when you have to be treated for cancer. You will use science. And how come nobody ever had grown a new arm, leg etc. remember he’s is almighty. At least on paper. Just answer which god is the one and only, and please not by quoting from that books.
@Klause I'm talking about JESUS! He's God! And He loves you! As far as evidence of God, just look in the MIRROR..who made that beautiful person? HE DID! I know that you'll probably say your parents made you, but that's not what I mean..God created man. And man has sinned against Him. We ALL have. Just think, Klaus..how many lies have you told in your life? How many times have you taken His name in vain? Ever stolen? Ever looked at a person to lust after them? If you've ever done any of these things (and we ALL have) then you will stand guilty before a holy God when you die and be sent into hell. But God sent His perfect Son Jesus to the world to suffer and shed His blood to pay for the sins that WE did. And if we put our trust in Jesus and repent (or turn away from) our sins, we'll be taken to heaven when we die. Some theologians call it "THE GREAT EXCHANGE"..God takes away our dirty sins and gives us His Sons perfect holiness! I pray that you'll do this today!
Patrick
ZION82able No offend but fuck Jesus . Historian searchers-are not sure he lived( this name is like smith. And it could easily have been several people. Who created me evolution. Who created your faith.!your parents. But as I knew you haven’t addressed one of my arguments. Because you don’t know how to argue about which god is the right. You are a creationist. Sorry that should be regarded as an illnesses of serious mental issues.. how can a person end up so ignorant. It’s beyond me!. I will thank your god for making me an atheist. I care about my life. I don’t have any job because of your God sent some illness- why don’t he show him self, he promise to come back before his followers we’re getting too old?. What about all kinds of religion are they wrong? Maybe I’m beautiful-!so is my mother! And she claims that her man is my father. . You sir need to rewind your brain. Start reading Bertrand Russell why I’m not a Christian! Frankly you’re not! You cherry-picking among the horrible things and read the acceptable things. You are able to do that with even Mein Kamp ! The Bible as a book was created in year 387. Because of fractions of devided believers.! And it was from that moment Jesus became god’s son. Don’t you know that ? If you want to believe I could care less, but when believers are fighting all over the world. This is insane. And I will fight for my and everybody to be gays if they want or whatever! And women too be equal with men! And don’t think there is a thing who’s judging you. You can live a hole life and when you dies, your will be split into atoms. I demand paradise now! And since it don’t gonna happens I will use the golden rule! Be towards others as you want to be treated. If you don’t address my questions- stop writing!
PAGE HAD RYTHEM AND SOUL AND WAS ABLE TO ELUDE ALL OF GERRIES PUNCHINGPOWER ITS JUST ONE THING THE WHITE MAN DOES NOT HAVE RYTHEM AND SOUL .. PAGE HAD MORE QUICKNESS
Yeah, man, he was a real shuck 'n jive live minstrel show. No wonder he beat Coetzee, he put the 'ol' soul kaibash' on him. Dat was dat black voodoo, I tell ya'!!
Wait, who, what what??
Oh yes, this ethnocentric, homeristic, black man, speaking of the advantage that black men as pugilists have because of their ability to shuck n jive unlike white folk... whatisitheactuall what-da-f&%#!!!
Hey, remember 'too sir with love' w Sydney pointier. Well he dances at the end with his dough eyed student, and he kinda' has this nervous squirl, hamster feeling groove goin' on. Not like innately good moves, nor very athletic, but hey he's black, he's Sydney pointier... soooooo, he must be shukin' n jiving' too, RIGHT??? Well, golly them black folk sure have alota rhythm, and so musical, hmmmmm........
@@durtyragoux Best fighters had the best sterioda
Page has the opportunity of a life time and he acts like a clown several times during the match. Foolish. - Joseph
And Holmes would have made him pay if he and Page fought.
@@jrupp8853 And Holmes ducked Page, and gave up the world title, rather than fight him.
@@Belburg More to do with Don King I'm thinking.
@@jrupp8853 Could be, but notice after Tim Witherspoon, Larry didn't fight guys who were a strong threat to him i.e Greg Page and Pinklon Thomas.
@@Belburg Page was lazy and Thomas still was not at the same level as a declining Holmes at this point. Neither figher really made a case for a fight with Holmes if memory serves me. But how could you when you're losing fights to guys like David Bey.
Damiani fought Page better. So did an old washed up Bugner. Page was nothing special, a good boxer but no where near a great one.
I still remember that fight when Greg Page knocked out George Foreman
A lot of racists were mad that day lmao
Just like a lot of BLACK racists are mad every time the Klitschko's win. lmao.
Daniel Monsivais Naw Lennox cut him up ha ha ha ah
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bertellish...You talk all that racist bullshit, but you weren't even in the ring, so fuck do you care? Coetzee would surely have beat your ass any day, just like Page would have. Just like either Klitchko would have too. The best you can do is cheer on your black boxing heroes from your cell phone, so how does that make you so proud? If Klitchko dominates boxing for over a decade or whatever it was, how does that make me a better man? Answer is that it doesn't, but at least I don't live vicariously through others' accomplishment, ya' fake assed buster.
Greg Page beat his ass so bad the crowd tried to rush the ring after the fight. Master race. Pffhhh!