26k in 2003 is worth about 44k in 2023 dollars. This Blazer is not that much more expensive when taking the value of money and inflation for 20 years into account.
The perception of Chevys being cheap has gone out the window for a long time. It is because of the price of a Chevy in the 70's that the term "sticker shock" was introduced into our language. Sure Chevy still makes low-priced cars and they are great. If you don't mind squeezing in a car the size of the circus clown cars. Might even have enough room to haul home toothpaste and brushes from the supermarket.
One significant variable I'm surprised you didn't touch on is inflation. Using the inflation calculator, $30k in 2003 is $50k in 2023, so that's right in line. But what you brought up at the end, about wages not increasing in the same proportions is exactly the problem.
One could argue there's actually more value in vehicles today with all the added features and tech when the prices are the same after being adjusted for inflation
Dave u know I love your content and 🎉I do agree income is not keeping up with inflation. BUT cars are expensive. Car pricing has increaded much faster then core CPI. This is a bubble and I am afraid its bursting. I just hope consumers and hard working sales peole like your self dont get hurt with job loss or income loss. These prices are not sustainable and its not solved by people just taking on more work. It's solved by a market correction. Unfortunatly its coming.
What you said at the end of the video is spot on, income keeping up with the everyday expenses and what are a persons necessities vs extras within their budget, it's not only car prices that are up, when your getting hammered from all sides it makes higher optioned cars less attractive.
Body on frame. 2 speed transfer case. 2003 was a legit off road vehicle. Body on frame and awd in the 2024. They’re not even in the same food group, let alone comparable. Like the content!
My wife leased a '22 2LT Blazer with the 2.0L/9spd (sticker was just over $39k). It routinely got over 30mpg on the highway. I made a 950 mile trip from Massachusetts to Michigan and I only had to fill the tank once just west of Buffalo. I made it home (the last 420 mile leg of the trip) with a 1/4 tank to spare. I could get over 550 miles of range per tank on the highway, no matter what the conditions were. The EV Blazer getting only 230 miles (80% charge) of range IN IDEAL CONDITIONS means that I would have needed 4-5 charging stops in that same trip...I would have never made it in 13 hours stopping that many times. Get the ICE Blazer...the EV is just an inefficient toy for people who want shiny things.
Yea I don’t get why these legacy carmakers can’t pass that 230-275 mile range, I mean the battery technology is there several other EV brands can exceed that easily and do it where the vehicles are still relatively cheap
Bingo that is what is going to kill this car they got greedy and overpriced it, maybe this is to make up for that insane new contract from the strike deal 😂
I've been shopping for this style. And test drove the Model Y and MachE. The Blazer is so much nicer inside than both of these. But it's hard to justify the extra $10,000
@@chrissorum1127Nicer is a strong word, it is a different style, the Tesla is minimalist but very well put together and the mach E is comparable to the blazer, Reliability hands down to the Tesla so it is a mixed bag, if you are a Chevy person or ICE car person the blazer will always pull you more, but if you want more cutting edge technology and better reliability of that technology and charging infrastructure then Tesla is hands down
GM doesn't advertise the Corvette as a Chevy and the Caprice, when well equipped, was Pontiac's version of the Bonneville (just not as sporty).@@brucekalter4206
The problem with comparing vehicles of different vintages is technological advancements. Of course today's cars have features the last year didn't. The MacBook pro today has more capability than super computer of 50 years ago, but yet costs a fraction of the price.
How about HD TV's? When they first came out they were 10K more than 20 years ago. Today? A flat-screen smart 50-inch TV is less than $500.00. The longer tech is out the cheaper it is.
Read many of the comments from the last 3 videos. To sum up the sentiments, "no", "no, and "no". Dave's doing his darndest to convince the buying public that this EV is a solid playa. But, everyone already sees though the sales BS that keeps coming out of his mouth.
I'm not trying to push the EV just trying to help people understand how it may work for them... it may not and that's cool too. I sell way more gas vehicles. Fact of the matter is the human mind rejects change even if it could be a good thing. In my experience driving an EV has been cheaper and more enjoyable. Should I not share my experiences?
A car salesman telling you that a vehicle isn't too expensive is like.... Well that would be the example I would normally use for that analogy. Anything that has to do with technology can basically be wiped away from the cost in the comparison. Getting a large HD infotainment system now days is basically equivalent to getting a CD player 20 years ago. The first personal computer cost $55k (not accounting for inflation). You can now go pick up a $20 Tracphone that has thousands of times more processing power. While I do think they are too expensive I will concede to your argument that even though it feels worse now accounting for inflation they really haven't risen that much. The problem is wages haven't kept up with that inflation. The biggest issue is repair costs. I would love to see a similar breakdown on common repairs like a new starter, alternator, or coil packs. You also practically can't do you own work on your cars now. A few years ago nearly anyone who is mechanically inclined could troubleshoot and repair their own vehicles. Now that is impossible for most issues. I am saying all of this as an owner of a 2023 Blazer. But I went with the 2LT. Although I love the RS I saved $12k and got 95% of the same vehicle. Options and trims are where manufacturers are raking people over the coals these days. They throw at the most $1000 worth of extra equipment on the vehicle and charge $10-15k more. I love your channel. I have watched every video for the last year and a half. I understand it is your job to sale cars and mean no ill will, it is just very obvious what a car salesman will say if you ask about a vehicle being too expensive.
Just curious how often you get flats? I've had two Volts, two Bolts, and one Jeep Wrangler spanning the last 10 years and never had a flat in any of them. The Jeep was the only one with a spare.
You are one lucky devil. Granted getting flats is not an everyday occurrence but when you do get one the last thing you want to see when you go looking for a spare is NO SPARE. I recently got a flat on an Interstate at midnight in my Cadillac XT5. No problem I thought. I just called Road Side Assistance and just took for granted that they would change the tire. I went into shock when I was told "Sir you don't have a spare" you will need to get your car towed! Fortunately, he had a tire plug kit and that was good enough to get me home. I now carry my own tire plug kit in the XT5. I am procrastinating in getting a real spare mainly because of the cost. $700 for the donut kit. @@DaveBsellsChevy
Not expensive for the rich, but for most people it is. All I need is vehicle to get me to point A and back unfortunately manufacturers stopped making those.
Value is in the pocket of the prospective buyer. If a product is worth the price in an individual's mind, then it's a good value to that person. The task before manufacturers is to produce something at a price point that brings a large enough group of individuals to the conclusion that the product is a value, and therby sell enough units to make production viable. The market will, in time, sort this out. For me, the latest gen ICE Blazer has never been a value because if i were going to spend at that price point I could find a vehicle with far greater utility than a CUV. I will note that this same ICE Blazer has sold pretty well all the same.
The point here is that we have an affordability issue. Income raises are not keeping pace with rising costs. Either incomes are rising too slowly or costs are rising too quickly. The debate seems to be centered on which it is.
Be warned, folks. Our boy Davey is giving his salesman pitch with this video. This is what his "clients" can expect when they come in looking for a really affordable Chevy.
All those features and gadgets that will break and cost big bucks to fix. There are plenty of 2003 blazers still on the road today. Let’s see how many 2023 Blazers are on the road in 2043. You’ll have your answer.
I would pay extra for them to strip out all those add ons to make it equipped just like the 2003. Most of these features will be broken or obsolete with time and just cause you tons of headaches and big repair bills.
30k in 2003 is about 50k today. Yes, vehicles have more technology, but costs should also be coming down as scales are reached and technology matures along with more automation. The big 3 made the conscious decision to not sell (or sell far fewer) affordable vehicles anymore and move upmarket to increase margins. Good for shareholders, but there are only so many people who make 6 figures who can afford a 50 or 60k or higher vehicle. Even if Chevy made the most compelling vehicle on the market for 60k and advertises the heck out of it, it makes zero difference if most cannot actually afford it. The lower to mid end of the market is ripe for disruption, and as I'm sure most car salesmen know, conquest sales are a lot harder than retention customers.
They are both over price but gas is better than Ev. I live in New Jersey if you do not near shopping center it is Desert for chargers. I have a EV and had to get rid of it. And takes longer to charged then get gas
Technology has advanced more in the last 5 years than the past 5000. You’re right income has not kept pace with technological advances. We’re about 10 years behind.
It would have been good to emphasize the changes in purchasing power over that 20 year span. Median household income in the US has increased 75%. A car in the $50K range today is not dissimilar to a car in the $30K range in 2003. Another point might be the seeds of GM's eventual bankruptcy may have been visible in the 2003 model offerings and pricing. By 2008 GM was competing almost solely on price while innovation had stalled. Buyers were not seeing the value even at lower prices. Hopefully GM learned the lesson. Ultium is a really innovative platform but very costly.
For local travel I have a 2023 Bolt EUV ($33k) and for longer trips a 2023 Blazer RS ($50k) and feel like both of them are worth the money. Learning about EV's from using the Bolt EUV and was interested in upgrading - but the Blazer EV ($61k) and new Equinox EV ($52k) seem like to me - too expensive, no NACS charging, and no Apple Carplay.
Interesting video and comparison of years. Spot on about income problem. One thing you didn't mention is repair costs though. Start with a windshield or bumper replacement or side mirror replacement between 2003 and today --- Just for another discussion topic, possibly for a different channel, since not sales related. Those new Blazers ARE damn nice 👍 especially for the money in comparison with other brands.
Yes, its over priced. It costs as much a Suburban a few years ago. yes, inflation, but in no way is this car $60K especially given the EV competition i.e. Tesla Model Y.
While an income issue is definitely true. It’s also true that car companies are forcibly making people switch to EV when they are not fully proven yet. Especially when it comes to long road-trips. They are literally killing current models and going with a “just trust me bro” approach. And while not everyone may feel this way some people will definitely react negatively to “well just work harder” when it comes to the response of higher car prices
EV’s are definitely proven Tesla has shown that over the last decade, but that’s because they have the charging network that just works every time no matter what, it’s the horrible charging network that is CCS that brings all EV’s down other than Tesla, fix the charging network and it will be Awesome
EVs definitely proven with a decade of use? I will stick with ICE which has over a century of use. Not to forget the convenience and all the gas stations available compared to charging stations.@@adamp2384
Holy smokes, my first mortgage wasn’t that much per month! You make a good point about the added features Dave. The one benefit back in 2003 you could buy a basic Blazer with no options for less than 20k. Now a days, you have to get all these features that some people don’t have a use for.
Probably the 2003 Blazer. If you look at inflation from 20 years ago, the $30k Blazer would equal around $49k, which is cheaper than the 2023 Blazer, plus there would be a little more room to negotiate than today. However, you do get some more style with the 2023 than the 2003 and better fuel economy as well.
I paid under $40k out the door for my 2019 Blazer 3LT with all the discounts and incentives back then. It was/is very much worth that price. The 3LT had almost everything I wanted and few things I didn’t know I wanted (the auto-dimming side mirror and birds eye camera view are especially nice). A heated steering wheel and heated side mirrors would have made it perfect. I couldn’t justify an extra 12k+ to step up to the RS. I wish the old discounts and incentives would come back. I might consider something new…
upsie to an EV is no more rolling your eyes when you see the price of gas. You don't need to think about the cost of your next oil change. With those two items no longer hitting your wallet, you're already saving money.
I would wager that an ICE vehicle would have much lower repair bills in 9 years than an EV. I also know that replacing an ICE engine is much cheaper than replacing an EV battery pack.@@toner37
The only service I did to my 2019 Bolt was three tire rotations, the first of which was paid for by GM. Put 46,800 miles on the car in three year lease.
Dave you're not wrong. All things considered there is value in these cars. However not everyone wants all the options. Both of these cars could cost thousands less with fewer fancy pants options. Ppl like me drive 15 mins to work and grab groceries and run errands. I need/want the safety tech but I don't need 21" machined wheels and heads up display, sunroof or push button start. Memory seats, power glove box and upgraded stereo and awd is not for me. I don't need these things. I drive a 3 yr old Camry SE which I bought new because appliances are what millions of ppl want and can afford. The Camry has all the safety tech but no frills and costs just over half what the Blazer costs. Toyota and Honda and to some extent the Korea cars sell a ton of these cars for the reasons I've stated. Last I checked Camry and Accord combined account for over 500,000 units. I enjoy your channel and thank you for your content. Cheers.
Exactly and have you noticed how many people he says lease, it seems like 70% of his buyers lease the vehicles which also makes the case of how unaffordable they are because if you bought the vehicle instead of leasing their payments would be even more expensive
20 years ago we actually had to know how to drive and get to where we are going using a MAP and your BRAIN... Nowadays barely anyone can drive or take their phone away from them some basic directions... Even better throw them a simple math calculation, they are stumped instantly.....
Good Video Dave. It's not the cost of the vehicle but how much the payments are going to be. I would like to know what the interest rate was back in 2003 compared to today? The next question would be, what was the income of a Blazer buyer in 2003 compared to 2023? Most people today think vehicles have gotten to expensive. But have they? Cheers!!!
In 2003 I got a black chevy monte carlo ss, it was 28,400 around about, 31,000 out the door. I traded it in and got a new red 06 monte ss. I miss that car, I would love for them to make that again for a few years.
2023. Blazer EV or ICE car should not be compared to the price of 2003 Blazer. It should compared to the 2023 Tesla model Y. The Model Y is a straight up better value in today’s money. I don’t know if the Model Y is a better car than the Blazer EV , but the value preposition of the Tesla Model Y is huge mountain for Chevy to climb
Perhaps but the Blazer is built better, doesn’t have the stupid one screen controls all, probably rides better and doesn’t have a jerk as the face of the company.
I and scores of other individuals that have more important things going on in our lives than waiting around with bated breath for the release of specific vehicles.@@alexsellscars
That's his point at the end of the video. We have an affordability issue. Income raises are not keeping pace with rising costs. Either incomes are rising too slowly or costs are rising too quickly. The debate seems to be centered on which it is.
If you really don’t want to pay the asking price, just wait for it to depreciate in value and then go for it. Get a certified warranty and it’s a win-win scenario. Additionally, you are giving the salesperson business still. Everyone wins
Problem is used prices are not the discount they once were. Both these cars will lose rough 30% of their retail value in the first year. On the other hand used cars are selling in most cases for just 15% discount to new. Not really that great of a deal to buy used even with a certified warranty.
With discounts and nobody other than morons paying MSRP back in 2003 the 2003 is still a better value. About the only feature that you described that really is helpful these days is the backup camera.
We just got our 2023 Bolt EUV for $24k after incentives $36k before incentives. It charges slow for DC fast charging, but my goodness I will never go back to a gas car. My job lets me charge for free so the entire 100 mile round trip to and from the office is completely free!
inflation adjusted price of $30k 2003 Blazer is $50k in 2023. The gas powered one is about the same price but come with more staff with the advance in technology.
The question is… why would some get an EV from Chevy, Kia, Hyundai, etc… when they can get a tried and true vehicle from Tesla for less? PLUS, when in 2024 you can transfer the EV credit to the dealer for a down payment I’m not sure how these other brands are going to match up against Tesla.
Nah, I like the Bolt and plan on using as my daily for the unseen future. If I purchased a second vehicle it would either be a C8 or another 2 door Wrangler that I can mod out.
$30K USD in 2003 is $52K USD in 2023 with inflation So basically same price with a LOT of features How much was the average family income in 2003 vs 2023
All you are doing with this video is showing how desperate you are in trying to push this Blazer. If they are such a great vehicle they would be knocking down your doors to get in and get one.
Although Blazer EV looks amazing and interior is awesome, I would rather go for Tesla Model Y Performance for $52k, which has better performance than this Blazer EV.
I had a 2003 Blazer & never not once took it off road. In fact, I knew so many people who had Jeep Wranglers & never once did they take them off road. It's estimated that less than 5% of people who own an "off road" vehicle actually take them off road so that aspect doesn't really mean anything.
And remember the 7500-dollar tax credit, and the New Jersey sales tax relief falls on all the other taxpayers supporting an arguably not ready for prime-time vehicle. It's great if you can home charge (or put up with a weak charging network, for trips) but people living in apartment/condos, etc. are left in a lurch, or at least compromised.
If you’re shopping for an electric vehicle (EV), then chances are that you’ve researched its maintenance costs. The good news is that the overall maintenance for an EV is far cheaper than its gas-powered counterpart. But the bad news is that you’ll likely go through tires more frequently, which can get expensive throughout the life of the car.
I returned my 2019 Bolt lease with 46,800 miles and the original tires still on it.... for info purposes the Blazer ICE in this video weighs 4,298 and the EV weighs 5,263.
Why not suggest to the powers-to-be. Either your dealership owner or Chevrolet to sponsor a Cannonball Run race. Pit an EV against an ICE. Make it coast to coast just to prove how great an EV can be. This is somewhat how Cadillac got its great reputation when they won the Dewars Cup.@@DaveBsellsChevy
People can’t afford a $60,000 vehicle. With the economy going into a free fall and the interest rates climbing I don’t see many people getting into vehicles. Used cars are different, I would think those prices will stay up. More and more people will opt for a used car as the prices for new vehicle keeps rising.
i had a 2003 blazer and i loved it, great little suv.. now, i am not fully sold on ev yet, why? because the electric infrastructure is not fully there.. i almost bought a testla which are expensive too, but what happens if u have an electrical issue where your ar is broken down and you are stranded> ? how many miles does the ev blazer get on a full battery? does gm share their software in their software unlike tesla.. in my humble opinion, i would rather a gas engine for further distance and so on. both nice looking vechicles for sure on ev and ice blazer!!
Which is the better value? $52,000 Blazer in 2023 or $30,000 Blazer in 2003
@WMRumble-zo8pgl haha
26k in 2003 is worth about 44k in 2023 dollars.
This Blazer is not that much more expensive when taking the value of money and inflation for 20 years into account.
My new Blazer 4X4 in 2000 cost $22,000.
You don't consider 16K "not that much more"?@@fleecystheking
My '91 Blazer 2wd 2dr was 17K,@@jimmywalters3071
Another great video 👍
Welcome Nia!
Davey go against the tide and push ICEs to your clients. They will love you for it. Plus you will make more money.
Wow i like the dashboard in the EV and its really nice on the outside..As always have a beautiful day 🌹
The issue is 60K for a Chevrolet. For a Cadillac or luxury brand that would be perfectly fine
The perception of Chevys being cheap has gone out the window for a long time. It is because of the price of a Chevy in the 70's that the term "sticker shock" was introduced into our language. Sure Chevy still makes low-priced cars and they are great. If you don't mind squeezing in a car the size of the circus clown cars. Might even have enough room to haul home toothpaste and brushes from the supermarket.
Great review Dave.
One significant variable I'm surprised you didn't touch on is inflation. Using the inflation calculator, $30k in 2003 is $50k in 2023, so that's right in line.
But what you brought up at the end, about wages not increasing in the same proportions is exactly the problem.
But my president says everything is fine.
One could argue there's actually more value in vehicles today with all the added features and tech when the prices are the same after being adjusted for inflation
Great content!
Did the 2003 have any human pay MSRP? Nobody paid MSRP in 2003.
Dave u know I love your content and 🎉I do agree income is not keeping up with inflation. BUT cars are expensive. Car pricing has increaded much faster then core CPI. This is a bubble and I am afraid its bursting. I just hope consumers and hard working sales peole like your self dont get hurt with job loss or income loss. These prices are not sustainable and its not solved by people just taking on more work. It's solved by a market correction. Unfortunatly its coming.
I keep telling him to look for another line of work. He is young enough to start out on another career in sales.
What you said at the end of the video is spot on, income keeping up with the everyday expenses and what are a persons necessities vs extras within their budget, it's not only car prices that are up, when your getting hammered from all sides it makes higher optioned cars less attractive.
All the extra everyday expenses are taking away money from prospectus car buyers.
Body on frame. 2 speed transfer case. 2003 was a legit off road vehicle. Body on frame and awd in the 2024. They’re not even in the same food group, let alone comparable. Like the content!
My wife leased a '22 2LT Blazer with the 2.0L/9spd (sticker was just over $39k). It routinely got over 30mpg on the highway. I made a 950 mile trip from Massachusetts to Michigan and I only had to fill the tank once just west of Buffalo. I made it home (the last 420 mile leg of the trip) with a 1/4 tank to spare. I could get over 550 miles of range per tank on the highway, no matter what the conditions were. The EV Blazer getting only 230 miles (80% charge) of range IN IDEAL CONDITIONS means that I would have needed 4-5 charging stops in that same trip...I would have never made it in 13 hours stopping that many times. Get the ICE Blazer...the EV is just an inefficient toy for people who want shiny things.
You nailed it.
Yea I don’t get why these legacy carmakers can’t pass that 230-275 mile range, I mean the battery technology is there several other EV brands can exceed that easily and do it where the vehicles are still relatively cheap
The problem with the Blaxer EV at $60k, it is $5k-$7k more than other comparable EVs in this segment(ID4, Model Y, MachE etc..)
Bingo that is what is going to kill this car they got greedy and overpriced it, maybe this is to make up for that insane new contract from the strike deal 😂
Other company’s EVs are priced the same as the Blazer ICE
I've been shopping for this style. And test drove the Model Y and MachE. The Blazer is so much nicer inside than both of these. But it's hard to justify the extra $10,000
@@chrissorum1127Nicer is a strong word, it is a different style, the Tesla is minimalist but very well put together and the mach E is comparable to the blazer, Reliability hands down to the Tesla so it is a mixed bag, if you are a Chevy person or ICE car person the blazer will always pull you more, but if you want more cutting edge technology and better reliability of that technology and charging infrastructure then Tesla is hands down
All great points Dave. Makes sense!
$60K is a lot of money for a...Chevy. Chevrolet is suppose to be the introductory brand to the GM line up. This car should be a Buick.
Or back in the day, Chevys were the working mans or poor man's car.
Not really: Impala, Caprice, Corvette...
GM doesn't advertise the Corvette as a Chevy and the Caprice, when well equipped, was Pontiac's version of the Bonneville (just not as sporty).@@brucekalter4206
No. EVs are still way too expensive. Plus the charging infrastructure is not near ready for national use.
I’d still get the ICE Blazer
The UAW shares a responsibility for the current pricing situation, too.
I don't know about that... I find it hard to blame the UAW when the "big 3" made BILLIONS in profits last year. Seriously.
This is easy, no, it's not worth the money for someone like me.
The problem with comparing vehicles of different vintages is technological advancements. Of course today's cars have features the last year didn't. The MacBook pro today has more capability than super computer of 50 years ago, but yet costs a fraction of the price.
How about HD TV's? When they first came out they were 10K more than 20 years ago. Today? A flat-screen smart 50-inch TV is less than $500.00. The longer tech is out the cheaper it is.
Totally agree with what you mentioned at the 9:30 mark with regards to people’s income.
And the technology in the new cars is way overboard and mostly unnecessary.
Read many of the comments from the last 3 videos. To sum up the sentiments, "no", "no, and "no". Dave's doing his darndest to convince the buying public that this EV is a solid playa. But, everyone already sees though the sales BS that keeps coming out of his mouth.
He has to keep shovelling out the BS. It is for now his livelihood.
I'm not trying to push the EV just trying to help people understand how it may work for them... it may not and that's cool too. I sell way more gas vehicles. Fact of the matter is the human mind rejects change even if it could be a good thing. In my experience driving an EV has been cheaper and more enjoyable. Should I not share my experiences?
You might want to give people more credit for the way they think and make decisions, especially on big-ticket items.@@DaveBsellsChevy
Would it be fair that since you sell Chevys your sharing experiences would be one sided?@@DaveBsellsChevy
I bet it was especially since you work at a dealership with most likely all your charging needs being taken care of while you work.@@DaveBsellsChevy
I will keep my 2021 Toyota Highlander Platinum. In 10 years I guarantee it will be worth more than either of these new Blazers.
A car salesman telling you that a vehicle isn't too expensive is like.... Well that would be the example I would normally use for that analogy. Anything that has to do with technology can basically be wiped away from the cost in the comparison. Getting a large HD infotainment system now days is basically equivalent to getting a CD player 20 years ago. The first personal computer cost $55k (not accounting for inflation). You can now go pick up a $20 Tracphone that has thousands of times more processing power.
While I do think they are too expensive I will concede to your argument that even though it feels worse now accounting for inflation they really haven't risen that much. The problem is wages haven't kept up with that inflation. The biggest issue is repair costs. I would love to see a similar breakdown on common repairs like a new starter, alternator, or coil packs. You also practically can't do you own work on your cars now. A few years ago nearly anyone who is mechanically inclined could troubleshoot and repair their own vehicles. Now that is impossible for most issues.
I am saying all of this as an owner of a 2023 Blazer. But I went with the 2LT. Although I love the RS I saved $12k and got 95% of the same vehicle. Options and trims are where manufacturers are raking people over the coals these days. They throw at the most $1000 worth of extra equipment on the vehicle and charge $10-15k more.
I love your channel. I have watched every video for the last year and a half. I understand it is your job to sale cars and mean no ill will, it is just very obvious what a car salesman will say if you ask about a vehicle being too expensive.
what this EV won't get a flat tire outstanding!!!
Good one! 60K for a car with no spare. At least he was honest enough to point that out.
Just curious how often you get flats? I've had two Volts, two Bolts, and one Jeep Wrangler spanning the last 10 years and never had a flat in any of them. The Jeep was the only one with a spare.
You are one lucky devil. Granted getting flats is not an everyday occurrence but when you do get one the last thing you want to see when you go looking for a spare is NO SPARE. I recently got a flat on an Interstate at midnight in my Cadillac XT5. No problem I thought. I just called Road Side Assistance and just took for granted that they would change the tire. I went into shock when I was told "Sir you don't have a spare" you will need to get your car towed! Fortunately, he had a tire plug kit and that was good enough to get me home. I now carry my own tire plug kit in the XT5. I am procrastinating in getting a real spare mainly because of the cost. $700 for the donut kit. @@DaveBsellsChevy
Am I the only one who can't wrap my head around vehicles of today coming with all the technology but NO SPARE TIRE!
There are 2003 Blazers still on the road today. Let’s see how many 2023 Blazers are on the road in 2043, then you’ll know your answer.
Not expensive for the rich, but for most people it is. All I need is vehicle to get me to point A and back unfortunately manufacturers stopped making those.
Going by the commercials for today's cars/trucks/SUVs. The manufacturers seem to be more interested in the off-road crowd.
No thanks. Too expensive. 2022 Bolt owner here which works just fine for me.
Forget all the nonsense. $60,000.00+ is a hell of lot of money.
2003 didn't have high inflation we have now!
Value is in the pocket of the prospective buyer. If a product is worth the price in an individual's mind, then it's a good value to that person. The task before manufacturers is to produce something at a price point that brings a large enough group of individuals to the conclusion that the product is a value, and therby sell enough units to make production viable. The market will, in time, sort this out.
For me, the latest gen ICE Blazer has never been a value because if i were going to spend at that price point I could find a vehicle with far greater utility than a CUV. I will note that this same ICE Blazer has sold pretty well all the same.
GM is pushing the greed button on all their vehicles.
Definitely not worth the money. Also, the taxpayers should not subsidize the $7500 incentive.
The point here is that we have an affordability issue. Income raises are not keeping pace with rising costs.
Either incomes are rising too slowly or costs are rising too quickly. The debate seems to be centered on which it is.
Be warned, folks. Our boy Davey is giving his salesman pitch with this video. This is what his "clients" can expect when they come in looking for a really affordable Chevy.
I’m still waiting for the EV equinox to come out. I currently on a 23 Chevy boat EUV and I love it.
$1 in 2003 is worth $1.67 today. So a $30,000 vehicle in 2003 would cost $50,100 today for an identical vehicle.
That's the angle that I thought he was going to take.
Exactly, I am surprised he didn't touch on this fact
If they made the 2003 blazer today, exactly how it was I would buy it.
If I could come to the dealer and buy a 2003 Chevy blazer brand new today I would in a heartbeat
All those features and gadgets that will break and cost big bucks to fix. There are plenty of 2003 blazers still on the road today. Let’s see how many 2023 Blazers are on the road in 2043. You’ll have your answer.
Reminds me of people who say things like "when i was your age movies was a nickel" lol
I would pay extra for them to strip out all those add ons to make it equipped just like the 2003. Most of these features will be broken or obsolete with time and just cause you tons of headaches and big repair bills.
A $1,000 a month ALWAYS matters!! No matter what year we are in.... 😂😂😂
30k in 2003 is about 50k today. Yes, vehicles have more technology, but costs should also be coming down as scales are reached and technology matures along with more automation. The big 3 made the conscious decision to not sell (or sell far fewer) affordable vehicles anymore and move upmarket to increase margins. Good for shareholders, but there are only so many people who make 6 figures who can afford a 50 or 60k or higher vehicle. Even if Chevy made the most compelling vehicle on the market for 60k and advertises the heck out of it, it makes zero difference if most cannot actually afford it. The lower to mid end of the market is ripe for disruption, and as I'm sure most car salesmen know, conquest sales are a lot harder than retention customers.
They are both over price but gas is better than Ev. I live in New Jersey if you do not near shopping center it is Desert for chargers.
I have a EV and had to get rid of it. And takes longer to charged then get gas
I am sure you are not alone in your decision-making to go back to gas. How much did you lose trading in your EV?
Technology has advanced more in the last 5 years than the past 5000. You’re right income has not kept pace with technological advances. We’re about 10 years behind.
Too much unnecessary tech that drives up the costs of these vehicles. Auto folding mirrors lol !
It would have been good to emphasize the changes in purchasing power over that 20 year span. Median household income in the US has increased 75%. A car in the $50K range today is not dissimilar to a car in the $30K range in 2003.
Another point might be the seeds of GM's eventual bankruptcy may have been visible in the 2003 model offerings and pricing. By 2008 GM was competing almost solely on price while innovation had stalled. Buyers were not seeing the value even at lower prices. Hopefully GM learned the lesson. Ultium is a really innovative platform but very costly.
For local travel I have a 2023 Bolt EUV ($33k) and for longer trips a 2023 Blazer RS ($50k) and feel like both of them are worth the money.
Learning about EV's from using the Bolt EUV and was interested in upgrading - but the Blazer EV ($61k) and new Equinox EV ($52k) seem like to me - too expensive, no NACS charging, and no Apple Carplay.
Interesting video and comparison of years. Spot on about income problem. One thing you didn't mention is repair costs though. Start with a windshield or bumper replacement or side mirror replacement between 2003 and today --- Just for another discussion topic, possibly for a different channel, since not sales related. Those new Blazers ARE damn nice 👍 especially for the money in comparison with other brands.
Yes, its over priced. It costs as much a Suburban a few years ago. yes, inflation, but in no way is this car $60K especially given the EV competition i.e. Tesla Model Y.
While an income issue is definitely true. It’s also true that car companies are forcibly making people switch to EV when they are not fully proven yet. Especially when it comes to long road-trips. They are literally killing current models and going with a “just trust me bro” approach. And while not everyone may feel this way some people will definitely react negatively to “well just work harder” when it comes to the response of higher car prices
Actually, I think the car manufacturers are playing into the hands of our government with their liberal progressive asine way of thinking.
EV’s are definitely proven Tesla has shown that over the last decade, but that’s because they have the charging network that just works every time no matter what, it’s the horrible charging network that is CCS that brings all EV’s down other than Tesla, fix the charging network and it will be Awesome
EVs definitely proven with a decade of use? I will stick with ICE which has over a century of use. Not to forget the convenience and all the gas stations available compared to charging stations.@@adamp2384
Sometimes less is more… just sayin’. And that 4.3 Vortec was a beast
Holy smokes, my first mortgage wasn’t that much per month! You make a good point about the added features Dave. The one benefit back in 2003 you could buy a basic Blazer with no options for less than 20k. Now a days, you have to get all these features that some people don’t have a use for.
60k for a ev vs 38k for a regular blazer ? No way I would pay 22k more
Probably the 2003 Blazer. If you look at inflation from 20 years ago, the $30k Blazer would equal around $49k, which is cheaper than the 2023 Blazer, plus there would be a little more room to negotiate than today. However, you do get some more style with the 2023 than the 2003 and better fuel economy as well.
All cars are too expensive
I paid under $40k out the door for my 2019 Blazer 3LT with all the discounts and incentives back then. It was/is very much worth that price. The 3LT had almost everything I wanted and few things I didn’t know I wanted (the auto-dimming side mirror and birds eye camera view are especially nice). A heated steering wheel and heated side mirrors would have made it perfect. I couldn’t justify an extra 12k+ to step up to the RS. I wish the old discounts and incentives would come back. I might consider something new…
a car whose value drops to $35,000 after one year
Too Me EV's even more as a used one has the potential to expose battery wear&tear and therefore decreasing the over all life.
Great point! Who in their right mind is going to buy a 5/6/7 year old EV? @@davealmer3803
upsie to an EV is no more rolling your eyes when you see the price of gas. You don't need to think about the cost of your next oil change. With those two items no longer hitting your wallet, you're already saving money.
Until you are faced with a repair bill!
@johnwalker6888 most EVs have an 8 yr warranty. Where as an ICE vehicle is about 3 yrs.
I would wager that an ICE vehicle would have much lower repair bills in 9 years than an EV. I also know that replacing an ICE engine is much cheaper than replacing an EV battery pack.@@toner37
The only service I did to my 2019 Bolt was three tire rotations, the first of which was paid for by GM. Put 46,800 miles on the car in three year lease.
Just what I do with my 2020 Silverado. Plus change the compartment filter and the engine oil filter.@@DaveBsellsChevy
Dave you're not wrong. All things considered there is value in these cars. However not everyone wants all the options. Both of these cars could cost thousands less with fewer fancy pants options. Ppl like me drive 15 mins to work and grab groceries and run errands. I need/want the safety tech but I don't need 21" machined wheels and heads up display, sunroof or push button start. Memory seats, power glove box and upgraded stereo and awd is not for me. I don't need these things. I drive a 3 yr old Camry SE which I bought new because appliances are what millions of ppl want and can afford. The Camry has all the safety tech but no frills and costs just over half what the Blazer costs. Toyota and Honda and to some extent the Korea cars sell a ton of these cars for the reasons I've stated. Last I checked Camry and Accord combined account for over 500,000 units. I enjoy your channel and thank you for your content. Cheers.
Exactly and have you noticed how many people he says lease, it seems like 70% of his buyers lease the vehicles which also makes the case of how unaffordable they are because if you bought the vehicle instead of leasing their payments would be even more expensive
20 years ago we actually had to know how to drive and get to where we are going using a MAP and your BRAIN... Nowadays barely anyone can drive or take their phone away from them some basic directions... Even better throw them a simple math calculation, they are stumped instantly.....
Good Video Dave. It's not the cost of the vehicle but how much the payments are going to be. I would like to know what the interest rate was back in 2003 compared to today? The next question would be, what was the income of a Blazer buyer in 2003 compared to 2023? Most people today think vehicles have gotten to expensive. But have they? Cheers!!!
no thanks
If you calculate for inflation though the $29k blazer is $49k in today’s money.. pretty much the same/all is relative
In 2003 I got a black chevy monte carlo ss, it was 28,400 around about, 31,000 out the door. I traded it in and got a new red 06 monte ss. I miss that car, I would love for them to make that again for a few years.
Ny parents never payed over $50 thousand dollars for the houses they bought over the years.
2023. Blazer EV or ICE car should not be compared to the price of 2003 Blazer. It should compared to the 2023 Tesla model Y. The Model Y is a straight up better value in today’s money. I don’t know if the Model Y is a better car than the Blazer EV , but the value preposition of the Tesla Model Y is huge mountain for Chevy to climb
Perhaps but the Blazer is built better, doesn’t have the stupid one screen controls all, probably rides better and doesn’t have a jerk as the face of the company.
Also looking at inflation, that old Blazer would be $50k today
Dave Diaz with you I prefer a hybrid that EV is beautiful. Don’t get me wrong but I still prefer the hybrid.
When is the Equinox EV and Silverado EV slated for release?
Who really cares?
@@johnwalker6888 obviously you don’t.
I and scores of other individuals that have more important things going on in our lives than waiting around with bated breath for the release of specific vehicles.@@alexsellscars
And scores of others.@@alexsellscars
getting pushed out further.. JohnWalker6888 must have spoke to Mary Barra to put the brakes on the whole Ultium platform
You sold me on the car. You're a good salesman.
i'm sure the cars are definitely worth their money however, how many people can actually afford them
That's his point at the end of the video. We have an affordability issue. Income raises are not keeping pace with rising costs.
Either incomes are rising too slowly or costs are rising too quickly. The debate seems to be centered on which it is.
If you really don’t want to pay the asking price, just wait for it to depreciate in value and then go for it. Get a certified warranty and it’s a win-win scenario.
Additionally, you are giving the salesperson business still. Everyone wins
Problem is used prices are not the discount they once were. Both these cars will lose rough 30% of their retail value in the first year. On the other hand used cars are selling in most cases for just 15% discount to new. Not really that great of a deal to buy used even with a certified warranty.
With discounts and nobody other than morons paying MSRP back in 2003 the 2003 is still a better value. About the only feature that you described that really is helpful these days is the backup camera.
A 30k ev would be a hit. A 60k ev without the Tesla infrastructure for long trips…. It’s designed to flop.
We just got our 2023 Bolt EUV for $24k after incentives $36k before incentives. It charges slow for DC fast charging, but my goodness I will never go back to a gas car.
My job lets me charge for free so the entire 100 mile round trip to and from the office is completely free!
inflation adjusted price of $30k 2003 Blazer is $50k in 2023. The gas powered one is about the same price but come with more staff with the advance in technology.
That's a nice comparison Dave but I don't think it is worth the money.
The question is… why would some get an EV from Chevy, Kia, Hyundai, etc… when they can get a tried and true vehicle from Tesla for less? PLUS, when in 2024 you can transfer the EV credit to the dealer for a down payment I’m not sure how these other brands are going to match up against Tesla.
Boy you'd think a car made in mexico with slave wages it would be cheaper..
My income has not doubled since 2003
Dave, does playing around with the Blazer make you want to trade in your bolt?
Nah, I like the Bolt and plan on using as my daily for the unseen future. If I purchased a second vehicle it would either be a C8 or another 2 door Wrangler that I can mod out.
$30K USD in 2003 is $52K USD in 2023 with inflation
So basically same price with a LOT of features
How much was the average family income in 2003 vs 2023
All you are doing with this video is showing how desperate you are in trying to push this Blazer. If they are such a great vehicle they would be knocking down your doors to get in and get one.
True…👌🏽👏🏽
I disagree. It's just a new vehicle = new content
I would take another less expensive ev overall like the Ioniq 5 or Ev6, but thats just me.
Although Blazer EV looks amazing and interior is awesome, I would rather go for Tesla Model Y Performance for $52k, which has better performance than this Blazer EV.
Never buy the first year model. It's a cool vehicle, but I would wait until the third year
Also more things to go wrong on the new Blazer. You can take the old Blazer off road.
Less maintenance on a Ev and who wants to take any vehicle off road?
I had a 2003 Blazer & never not once took it off road. In fact, I knew so many people who had Jeep Wranglers & never once did they take them off road. It's estimated that less than 5% of people who own an "off road" vehicle actually take them off road so that aspect doesn't really mean anything.
I think when the 1Lt Ev blazer comes out that will be a good deal
And remember the 7500-dollar tax credit, and the New Jersey sales tax relief falls on all the other taxpayers supporting an arguably not ready for prime-time vehicle. It's great if you can home charge (or put up with a weak charging network, for trips) but people living in apartment/condos, etc. are left in a lurch, or at least compromised.
I wish it was 2003 because I would be 30 and not 50 years of age
The problem is you can’t get a dealer to fix your ice car much less fix your ev ! ! !
2023 or not , with older cars I still got to the same place in the end . Not worth the money
I still vote on ev
Better suv
If you’re shopping for an electric vehicle (EV), then chances are that you’ve researched its maintenance costs. The good news is that the overall maintenance for an EV is far cheaper than its gas-powered counterpart. But the bad news is that you’ll likely go through tires more frequently, which can get expensive throughout the life of the car.
I returned my 2019 Bolt lease with 46,800 miles and the original tires still on it.... for info purposes the Blazer ICE in this video weighs 4,298 and the EV weighs 5,263.
Why not suggest to the powers-to-be. Either your dealership owner or Chevrolet to sponsor a Cannonball Run race. Pit an EV against an ICE. Make it coast to coast just to prove how great an EV can be. This is somewhat how Cadillac got its great reputation when they won the Dewars Cup.@@DaveBsellsChevy
You're getting pretty close to Lexus prices. Is the Lexus brand popular in your area? Have you ever thought of being a Lexus salesman?
People can’t afford a $60,000 vehicle. With the economy going into a free fall and the interest rates climbing I don’t see many people getting into vehicles. Used cars are different, I would think those prices will stay up. More and more people will opt for a used car as the prices for new vehicle keeps rising.
i had a 2003 blazer and i loved it, great little suv.. now, i am not fully sold on ev yet, why? because the electric infrastructure is not fully there.. i almost bought a testla which are expensive too, but what happens if u have an electrical issue where your ar is broken down and you are stranded> ? how many miles does the ev blazer get on a full battery? does gm share their software in their software unlike tesla.. in my humble opinion, i would rather a gas engine for further distance and so on. both nice looking vechicles for sure on ev and ice blazer!!
No problem with breaking down in an EV. Chevy will send out a tow truck for you.