Can’t convince the apprentices at work about the importance of beveling edges, until their wrench slips and they are bleeding, then they see why. Great video!
Yep, de-burring or easing edges is as important as making things dimensionally correct. It is part of the process. Smart management enforces this with an iron fist, knowing how much time and money is lost when employees need to be sewn up. It's tough to get some folks on board with the practice though.
Haha I got 2 different cuts and a scuff in my hands from edges that somebody else didnt deburr and the scuff from a grinder with a flapdisk slipping this morning 😂
I cant tell you how many products i've bought where the edges havent been broken and it drives me up the wall. Especially if the product has been coated with a PVD or thin film coating.
Good video, I like this type of stuff. I just wanted to mention something regarding what you were saying about beveling edges. Someone who I used to work with told me to make everything safe enough so that a 5 year old can play with it in the dark. Quality takes time and safety is never rushed.
Awesome bunch of great tips! Another advantage to beveling edges is giving the paint a surface to stick to. Un-beveled edges will leave the paint ultra thin at the sharp point and much more likely to chip or allow rust a place to start. Thanks for another great video buddy!
Absolutely !!!! the mil thickness difference is substantial and even more so with powder coating...the sharp edges will always be the point of peeling or lifting of the powder coat in time and thus starting the creeping of under rust making powder coat bubble and peel even more. I one sands the bevel to a radius, even minutely, it is huge in paint and powder coat adhesion. Think of cutting and breaking a piece of etched or scratched glass over the edge of a table to make a straight edge...the same is happening to paint and powder coatings.
Attention to detail and pride in one's work goes a long ways. Most people won't be able to pinpoint WHY one thing looks better than another, but they know THAT it looks better which is what matters. The guy with the neat work gets the positive comments.
couple things: first, you have a great speaking voice, it's very easy to stay focused on what you're saying. Kinda reminds me of Mike Rowe. Second, great work or eye candy work, is in the details. It doesn't have to be complicated to look next level. This is a great video, I'd like to see more like this. Little tips and tricks. Thanks
Two different curves??? My OCD will no go for that! Thanks for the vid. I thought you had some fancy CNC machine for that fancy work. Now I know that I can do it too!!
Haha! I feel you, but the dissimilar curves I’m promoting still result in symmetry, which is what MY OCD requires. YES! That’s the whole goal of the channel my man! Liberating people from the mindset that high dollar machines are a requirement. It’s amazing what can be done with a grinder and a drill.
Great video, important message. My garage work is on small motorcycles. I bevel all edges, round out anything which might be sharp and make sure there are NO pointy bits. Because when I come off on a Green Lane it might be me that’s in danger of being chopped, cut or stabbed by something I’ve left which should have been tidied up. Whenever I see one of your videos and have taken it to heart it has moved me forward, every time. Thanks Mate! Les in UK 🇬🇧
I absolutely love this! Thank you for taking the time to make this! I'm a weekend welder at most, but I love working with metal! Your videos give me inspiration to go do better than I did before. I appreciate your admitting to mistakes. It shows the rest of us that it's ok to learn. Stay humble, but don't forget you inspire many of us!
Even though it's a short video, it contains some good info. Attention to detail really does make a difference. When I was young and immortal, going through US Army airborne training (jump school) we had a seargent who would strut back and forth in front of the formation and shout, "Attention to detail, gentlemen. It will save your life." It is definitely true when parachuting, but it's also true in many aspects of automotive fabrication. I always enjoy watching your attention to detail.
Great video attention to detail is what makes a garage build look like a high end shop that cuts everything out with a CNC machine. You can build pretty much any bracket that you want with just a 4 1/2” grinder, hole saw and stepbits, and a good welding technique
For small-ish holes in mild steel, a manual deburr works perfectly. You know, these screwdriver handle thingy with jiggly crooked blade things. You might not believe, they really cut mild steel just good enough to make a nice bevel on short pieces, especially on inside radii.
ACTUALLY… believe it or not I just discovered these! I had seen them used but never bothered until I saw them on the counter at the hardware store. Grabbed one just cuz and it’s magical. I’ve only used it on tube. (square and round) I never considered using it on a drill hole. Thank you!
I love that you're pushing the bevelling. Not for looks, but only for Future-You, getting in there to work on something, and you snag your fingers or your clothes on one of those sharp edges. And I appreciate the tips about tools to flat and bevel edges! I've got a project where I need to homebrew a little bending brake for some titanium and stainless hardware. The tips about using the grinder and the flap wheel discs might well be the trick for rough and fine finishing the press brake. Then, I can dial in the bend radius, and figure out how much extra angle I need to account for springback to make my 90-degree bends.
All great advice, thank you. As you say the finish product is the sum of the details. It all ends up looking so much nicer when you add a few details while paying attention to the little things that are cumulative in a "finished" project rather than just one that is only completed. Have you looked into the mini air chamfering tools that somewhat resemble a router in concept and do a fantastic job in producing a repeatable chamfer on plate steel or aluminum. Much more consistent than a flap wheel for inside and outside bevels.
Great idea a little toolbox talk style of video . Keeping it simple and showing that you just need a little more fit and finish to make something look a lot more than something plain . Just a few touches in the right areas can make a 2 dollar patch look like a 20 dollar plate .
Couldn’t agree more…similar principles also apply in woodworking… you can often make a flat head screw mash it’s way into a piece of wood but starting the countersink with a bit makes it neat and consistent. Cleaning up sharp corners also helps when painting or finishing. I tell the guys I work with… things don’t always need to be perfect but they should look like you *meant* for them to be that way. Thanks for sharing what you do…I appreciate your perspective!
I really appreciate these short improvement videos. The knowledge you have may seem like nothing to you but guys/gals just starting out or us hobby folk could use all the advice.
i completely agree with your tips. the details matter, and not just in fabrication. taking the time to understand the materials, as well as the process, is critical. envision, design, then build are some of the steps i perform when building things (which can be applied to just about every material out there, right??) but i am not naive enough to believe that i will always get things right the first time, or that i have the market cornered on good ideas/design. i like that you have been gracious enough to share your mistakes and do-overs with us, and that you are open minded to be critical of your own ideas when a smarter design comes up. from reading these comments, i am not alone in my opinions regarding the willingness to share your experience and knowledge with us and i know i am not alone regarding the appreciation we have for you doing so. thank you so much, and yes, i shall keep moving forward.
I love all of your videos and you are an excellent fabricator. I wish I could spend a week with you learning as much as I possibly could. I've been welding/ fabricating for alil over a year now i just need more real workd experience. Keep you the great work. "Keep moving forward." - Garaga Fab Michael
Thank you, Michael. You are very much appreciated my friend. I’ve considered one day offering in-person courses where we can build a car from the ground up and learn about everything from welding and suspension design to tools and methods. Lemme know how your journey goes!
Great video. I listened to your very humble comment regarding comments people have been making. Your fabrication work is as brilliant, if not better than the other people you mentioned. You are GARAGE FAB. and being what you are, makes you even more talented taking into account that you do not have all the fancy equipment workshops or other people might have. Keep up thhe brilliant work as i do consider you as inspirational. Thanks for the top tips. Take care. From S.A.👍👍
An artist is always their own biggest critic! Fine work brother, and a very inspirational/motivational video. i should get back into the garage and fabricate something...
Great tips. I always try and strive to do better, more detailed work, but the big key for me is PATIENCE! 😂 I'll start a project, get excited to get to the end, and end up rushing through just to get it finished up, even though I intended to take my time and be clean and detailed.
You missed the most important tip, bevel the edges of the weld seam (or butting the 2 edges creating a 90° gap like you did). Not only is it stronger (as you know, more surface area of weld, as well as penetration is knowingly consistent!). It's also much more visually appealing since you're filling in a void as opposed to adding material on top! Another design that's easy to do is triangular shapes with rounded corners (since as stated, sharp corner creates a stress zone) but drill the corners then cut connecting the dots! Circles are nice because the ease of adding in a cross support which is also more visually appealing as well.
Thanks for the great video! Fabrication is the favorite part of restoring my 51 GMC 100! Please do a video on simple suspension brackets, exhaust brackets, and firewall inserts!
Check into "convolute" wheels for your bench grinder. These are fantastic for light deburring and edge polishing. You have to see to believe how nice these finish aluminum and stainless , will also make plain steel look like chrome.
Is a convolute wheel the same as a deburring wheel? I looked them up but couldn’t see much from the photos. They appear to just be grinding discs. One site however allowed me to zoom in (on a deburring wheel) and it looked like a dense Scotchbrite pad. Am I on the right track? I’d be willing to try one. I have a grinder with a wheel I don’t use. I considered replacing it with a cloth polishing wheel. Maybe I’ll get your convolute wheel instead. 🤔
Great advice ! metal fabricator/welder for over 50 years , those little details don't take that long so they can carry over into your "day job" customers notice .... sometimes even your boss will notice. Even if ... nobody notices , you still have pride in your work. I've fabricated machine parts for Solo Cup Corp , Rexam Beverage Corp , Bullet proof stainless steal windows for the Empire State Bldg . I'm sure SOMEBODY noticed......
Somebody definitely noticed, Randy. Guys like you and I notice the joints in the handrails at Disney Land. A boss definitely noticed my work once. I was building utility trucks. He said he had never seen more beautiful work. But blue collar employees don’t care about their trucks and I took way too long. He fired me.
The most important part of your welding should be making sure you've got the penetration and fill correct! I'd rather have a nice strong weld as opposed to a "snazzy" weld that's weak. Many "stack of dimes" mig welds are not strong at all or at least not as strong as they could or should be! Don't bet your life and fancy! Thanks for sharing, nice video.
The step I would add to breaking sharp edges is using a 3 inch scotch brite disc on a right angle die grinder. I also have a scotch brite wheel mounted on a bench grinder. Sharp edges don't hold paint very well either.
I’m a fabricator for a living and agree with your bit about just sanding your weld if it’s not that pretty. If it’s pretty, great. If not oh well. As long as there’s full penetration and fill, without a bunch of undercut, nobody gives a shit. If they do they’re probably a hobby welder that spends too much time on instagram and haven’t been humbled yet
Side note, I’m one of the ones that disagree with the stack of dimes mig look especially on tabs and brackets that see a load of any kind. Keep your wire at the leading edge of the puddle and quite playing around. You will not penetrate as much with any kind oscillating compared to a straight and steady push or pull weld. Just look at the automated welds on truck frames and that sort. No dimes. It would be easy to program if it had a benefit.
Truth. Bevels and smooth edges can create a channel between the metal being bonded making for a stronger weld. Pretty is as pretty does. Function and strength is key when you're doing 150mph+ down the dragstrip or banging against the boulders in Johnson Valley.
He didn't mention in the video but I also commented saying basically the same. He mentioned beveling the exposed edges but not of the weld seam. To better describe what you said, beveling gives you more surface area for the weld and also basically eliminates the worry of penetration thus making the strength much more consistent throughout the entire joint. 45° minimum total grove is a structural spec (22.5° on each with a v groove bevel or 45° with a single bevel.) For these brackets I'd do a single bevel and have the plate flush with the side edges beveling only the inner plate. Regardless, plenty strong really no matter how you construct it given you have solid welds! Also makes it visually appealing as the weld will be more flush and the back and forth motion of bridging the gap and filling in the void gives you the scales (aka "stacking dimes look"). He didn't never his edges, instead he butted they two inside corners which is the same thing. Visually I don't like it as much because it gives it a weird rounded edge. I don't know if there's a strength advantage/disadvantage to either or.
Also,about bevel/chamfered edges,not only do they look better,but also better for paint,paint really doesn't like square edges too much. Great video dude.👍👍😎😎
If only there were more people like you in this world. Everyone is in such a rush, quality, pride and honor literally gets passed in the slow lane. I wonder why I do the work I aim to do sometimes, no one appreciates it. “Slow”…”Overkill”…”Excessive”…”Just make it work”…in some cases, sure, I get it. But I like to restore/rebuild/rejuvenate. Not just repair or build. This video shows I’m not the only ***“AMERICAN PRIDE” mfr left. Now, I’m off to watch you C-notch/Step notch video(s) for the pro tips I so greatly appreciate you for. ***not to suggest somewhere else in the world doesn’t have the same pride American’s use to…all though it seems to be fading world wide…
Oh it’s fading everywhere my friend. Here in America mainly the willingness to work and exert any amount of additional effort is incredibly rare. Thank you my friend!! I don’t think I have any step notch videos yet. 🤔 😂
Depending on the size of the hole I’ve used everything from a blueberry to a pancake for round and a triscuit for square, but sushi is next level! 😂 Great video!
That’s exactly what it is. Dual Shield is the name brand. No splatter or smoke so it’s easy to see, and I think it’s easier to get good penetration, but I don’t have enough MIG time to have a meaningful opinion.
As a mechanic and chassis builder for 20 years, I agree with most of your tips however I don't grind my welds, if it's a bad weld it's a good reminder not to do it again. If it's a good weld, show it off to the world. On a side note, Dim Sims tend to work better then sushi also. Keep moving forward!
Hopefully that wasn’t misunderstood by everyone as, “If you can’t make safe welds, hide it with a grinder.” That certainly wasn’t the intent. Rather, it’s the idea that even the perfect weld is still ugly. The only way to improve “perfection” is to go a step further and finish the welds.
This is a little phrase I learned long ago. A laborer works with his hands, a. Craftsman works with his hands and his head, an artist works with his hands, his head, and his heart.
Actually "breaking the edge" is called (rather means) rounding, beveling, chamfering and deburring the edge. Breaking the edge on wood and asphalt helps to prevent cracking.... With metal it is to prevent you from cracking your knuckle wide open! I've never heard that with metal and it doesn't make sense. But I'm open to learning as I know I don't know everything.... Yet! 😂 (That's a joke)
I de-burr everything. I was shop foreman and fabricator at a heavy equipment construction outfit for about ten years and the boss would fuss at me for taking too much time on smoothing out edges. I told him that smooth edges are cheaper than an ER visit when someone gets a bad cut. He left me alone after that. Besides, I'm a better grinder than I am a welder. 😂
Great tips! I personally like to use hand files for bevels in smaller or tight areas. Also, putting holes not only looks good, but when done right will drop weight without sacrificing much strength. I feel like the biggest tip I could give. Is fabrication is art, theres no need to add stress. Have fun with it.
Adding holes in some cases ADDS strength or is required unless you want to add supports ( for instance... Probably the only instance 😂 but dimple dies in sheet metal!)
They also make ball end flap wheel bits(?) That would make bigger holes easier. (Big counter sinks are extremely expensive 😂) Or a pneumatic chamfer tools are pretty cheap!
If you ever want to chamfer a hole get some debur hand tools. Much safer and more controlled than a grinder for the job. Unless youre working on some hardened stuff.
Might sound strange since I’ve been fabbing since 2007, but I only learned of the debur tool recently. (2-3 years ago?) One of the greatest tools ever, and yet I still forget to use it sometimes. 🤷♂️
I agree with the bevels looking better but the REASON i do it is because i am the only one wrking on my project and i dont like busting knuckles and cutting my hands on sharp corners haha.
@@GarageFab Hi there, I didn’t tell you how much I like your videos. Good tips for a back yarder like me to improve my projects. Look forward to the next one. Keep up the good work. Cheers, Mike
Never seen a square window on an airplane. Curves provide strength and lessen weak points. Hence the term, "Weak POINTS." Also, ever notice dust on the leading edge of a ceiling fan blade? Yep! That is because there is ZERO velocity on the leading edge of a blade or wing. Beveling edges allows paint to have a stronger and longer surface edge (Did you say, :EDGE???") fro the paint to stick and not have a weak point. Curves, or arches, or arcs provide strength for a structure. Most importantly, they just look cool. "Straight lines" ONLY exist in theory and math, and we are not here for that... Nice Fab Work Tips!
Wow So True ya Hit the Nail on the Head Make it Look Like something to be Proud of Not some Piece Of Crap So Ya Makes ya Wonder why People Go to big Shops to get the Stuff done I've been weldin for over 45 yrs and People Say Farmer ya Do great work and Ya Hav Pride in what ya Do for us Keep it up Ya Make Me Proud Of What Ya Do And say ya wood hav Been great Partner Back in the Day Keep it up Ya Got this I Wood say ya Be Around for awhile Ya Say How it is Don't see that Much no more Thks for sharin from Canada SK LAter
Why you being so nosey? Nothing to see here, move along. I don’t know how to use it yet. 😆 Been planning a series on learning TIG using only WeldCoach.com
@@GarageFab Shiny new things catch my eye 🤣. I'm about to have a Mig 285 on the way too. I'm definitely going to book a Weld Coach session or 2 as well. I've already learned alot from Justin's TFS videos over the years, time to get serious now that I actually have the machine!
Can’t convince the apprentices at work about the importance of beveling edges, until their wrench slips and they are bleeding, then they see why. Great video!
Yep, de-burring or easing edges is as important as making things dimensionally correct. It is part of the process. Smart management enforces this with an iron fist, knowing how much time and money is lost when employees need to be sewn up. It's tough to get some folks on board with the practice though.
Haha I got 2 different cuts and a scuff in my hands from edges that somebody else didnt deburr and the scuff from a grinder with a flapdisk slipping this morning 😂
Old hotrod guy here, I chamfer both sides of every hole I drill, it's saved me a lot of spilled blood over the years. Like your work.
sometimes learning by experience is the only way that gets through
I cant tell you how many products i've bought where the edges havent been broken and it drives me up the wall. Especially if the product has been coated with a PVD or thin film coating.
Good video, I like this type of stuff. I just wanted to mention something regarding what you were saying about beveling edges. Someone who I used to work with told me to make everything safe enough so that a 5 year old can play with it in the dark. Quality takes time and safety is never rushed.
Well said! 🙌
Great video, quick and to the point. These short videos are a great fill in between the project videos. Please keep up the great job!
Awesome bunch of great tips! Another advantage to beveling edges is giving the paint a surface to stick to. Un-beveled edges will leave the paint ultra thin at the sharp point and much more likely to chip or allow rust a place to start. Thanks for another great video buddy!
Interesting! I’ve noticed this when painting and never put 2 and 2 together. 💡
Absolutely !!!! the mil thickness difference is substantial and even more so with powder coating...the sharp edges will always be the point of peeling or lifting of the powder coat in time and thus starting the creeping of under rust making powder coat bubble and peel even more. I one sands the bevel to a radius, even minutely, it is huge in paint and powder coat adhesion. Think of cutting and breaking a piece of etched or scratched glass over the edge of a table to make a straight edge...the same is happening to paint and powder coatings.
Thanks for all your knowledge! I really appreciate all your tips you giving. Thanks
Attention to detail and pride in one's work goes a long ways. Most people won't be able to pinpoint WHY one thing looks better than another, but they know THAT it looks better which is what matters. The guy with the neat work gets the positive comments.
couple things: first, you have a great speaking voice, it's very easy to stay focused on what you're saying. Kinda reminds me of Mike Rowe. Second, great work or eye candy work, is in the details. It doesn't have to be complicated to look next level. This is a great video, I'd like to see more like this. Little tips and tricks. Thanks
Thank you, Brent! No better compliment has ever been given. I love Rowe. Wish he was my Dad. 😆
Two different curves??? My OCD will no go for that! Thanks for the vid. I thought you had some fancy CNC machine for that fancy work. Now I know that I can do it too!!
Haha! I feel you, but the dissimilar curves I’m promoting still result in symmetry, which is what MY OCD requires.
YES! That’s the whole goal of the channel my man! Liberating people from the mindset that high dollar machines are a requirement. It’s amazing what can be done with a grinder and a drill.
Great video, important message. My garage work is on small motorcycles. I bevel all edges, round out anything which might be sharp and make sure there are NO pointy bits. Because when I come off on a Green Lane it might be me that’s in danger of being chopped, cut or stabbed by something I’ve left which should have been tidied up. Whenever I see one of your videos and have taken it to heart it has moved me forward, every time. Thanks Mate! Les in UK 🇬🇧
I absolutely love this! Thank you for taking the time to make this! I'm a weekend welder at most, but I love working with metal! Your videos give me inspiration to go do better than I did before. I appreciate your admitting to mistakes. It shows the rest of us that it's ok to learn. Stay humble, but don't forget you inspire many of us!
My favorite types of video. You don't make people think they're stupid. You explain simple methods of beauty and strength.
Even though it's a short video, it contains some good info. Attention to detail really does make a difference. When I was young and immortal, going through US Army airborne training (jump school) we had a seargent who would strut back and forth in front of the formation and shout, "Attention to detail, gentlemen. It will save your life." It is definitely true when parachuting, but it's also true in many aspects of automotive fabrication. I always enjoy watching your attention to detail.
Great video attention to detail is what makes a garage build look like a high end shop that cuts everything out with a CNC machine. You can build pretty much any bracket that you want with just a 4 1/2” grinder, hole saw and stepbits, and a good welding technique
So much truth! Intricate internal cuts are tough, but again, simplicity is often so much better!
For small-ish holes in mild steel, a manual deburr works perfectly. You know, these screwdriver handle thingy with jiggly crooked blade things. You might not believe, they really cut mild steel just good enough to make a nice bevel on short pieces, especially on inside radii.
ACTUALLY… believe it or not I just discovered these! I had seen them used but never bothered until I saw them on the counter at the hardware store. Grabbed one just cuz and it’s magical.
I’ve only used it on tube. (square and round) I never considered using it on a drill hole. Thank you!
Thanks a ton, I impressed all my co-workers in the shop, and am now getting more projects including fabrication. Mainly the welding tips you gave.
I love that you're pushing the bevelling. Not for looks, but only for Future-You, getting in there to work on something, and you snag your fingers or your clothes on one of those sharp edges.
And I appreciate the tips about tools to flat and bevel edges!
I've got a project where I need to homebrew a little bending brake for some titanium and stainless hardware.
The tips about using the grinder and the flap wheel discs might well be the trick for rough and fine finishing the press brake. Then, I can dial in the bend radius, and figure out how much extra angle I need to account for springback to make my 90-degree bends.
All great advice, thank you. As you say the finish product is the sum of the details. It all ends up looking so much nicer when you add a few details while paying attention to the little things that are cumulative in a "finished" project rather than just one that is only completed.
Have you looked into the mini air chamfering tools that somewhat resemble a router in concept and do a fantastic job in producing a repeatable chamfer on plate steel or aluminum. Much more consistent than a flap wheel for inside and outside bevels.
Great idea a little toolbox talk style of video . Keeping it simple and showing that you just need a little more fit and finish to make something look a lot more than something plain . Just a few touches in the right areas can make a 2 dollar patch look like a 20 dollar plate .
Couldn’t agree more…similar principles also apply in woodworking… you can often make a flat head screw mash it’s way into a piece of wood but starting the countersink with a bit makes it neat and consistent. Cleaning up sharp corners also helps when painting or finishing. I tell the guys I work with… things don’t always need to be perfect but they should look like you *meant* for them to be that way. Thanks for sharing what you do…I appreciate your perspective!
I really appreciate these short improvement videos. The knowledge you have may seem like nothing to you but guys/gals just starting out or us hobby folk could use all the advice.
I like a "tea break" episode, and likewise enjoy those opportunities to take the extra time to make stuff look good and feel proud of the output.
Deburing tool works great for small hole edges! Great advice in the vid!
Picky? Not at all, these “tips” are the hallmark skills of a good fabricator that takes pride in their work…as you know well! Keep up the great work 👍
i completely agree with your tips. the details matter, and not just in fabrication. taking the time to understand the materials, as well as the process, is critical. envision, design, then build are some of the steps i perform when building things (which can be applied to just about every material out there, right??) but i am not naive enough to believe that i will always get things right the first time, or that i have the market cornered on good ideas/design. i like that you have been gracious enough to share your mistakes and do-overs with us, and that you are open minded to be critical of your own ideas when a smarter design comes up. from reading these comments, i am not alone in my opinions regarding the willingness to share your experience and knowledge with us and i know i am not alone regarding the appreciation we have for you doing so. thank you so much, and yes, i shall keep moving forward.
I love all of your videos and you are an excellent fabricator. I wish I could spend a week with you learning as much as I possibly could. I've been welding/ fabricating for alil over a year now i just need more real workd experience. Keep you the great work. "Keep moving forward." - Garaga Fab
Michael
Thank you, Michael. You are very much appreciated my friend. I’ve considered one day offering in-person courses where we can build a car from the ground up and learn about everything from welding and suspension design to tools and methods.
Lemme know how your journey goes!
marvelous information, thanks from an old fabricator in Florida, Paul
Great video. I listened to your very humble comment regarding comments people have been making. Your fabrication work is as brilliant, if not better than the other people you mentioned. You are GARAGE FAB. and being what you are, makes you even more talented taking into account that you do not have all the fancy equipment workshops or other people might have. Keep up thhe brilliant work as i do consider you as inspirational. Thanks for the top tips. Take care. From S.A.👍👍
An artist is always their own biggest critic! Fine work brother, and a very inspirational/motivational video. i should get back into the garage and fabricate something...
Fantastic - thanks! The little things can make all the difference sometimes 😁
Great tips. I always try and strive to do better, more detailed work, but the big key for me is PATIENCE! 😂 I'll start a project, get excited to get to the end, and end up rushing through just to get it finished up, even though I intended to take my time and be clean and detailed.
Yes, 'great video.
I use a wire wheel to soften the edges.
I'll radius the corners of flat stock also.
You missed the most important tip, bevel the edges of the weld seam (or butting the 2 edges creating a 90° gap like you did). Not only is it stronger (as you know, more surface area of weld, as well as penetration is knowingly consistent!).
It's also much more visually appealing since you're filling in a void as opposed to adding material on top!
Another design that's easy to do is triangular shapes with rounded corners (since as stated, sharp corner creates a stress zone) but drill the corners then cut connecting the dots!
Circles are nice because the ease of adding in a cross support which is also more visually appealing as well.
Craftsman good to see you again.Great Job.
A video I’ll return to just to keep ME on track and slow me down a bit! I like your attitude and approach to life. Good job.
Thanks for the great video! Fabrication is the favorite part of restoring my 51 GMC 100! Please do a video on simple suspension brackets, exhaust brackets, and firewall inserts!
Nice! I learned to drive in a 51 GMC!
Commenting to feed the algorithm. This is one of the best amateur fabrication channels out there.
Great tips Aaron - tidbits of wisdom like this much appreciated. Keep the content coming Brother.
Love this! The vibe on every one of your videos is right in my wheelhouse. Don't ever stop!!
Check into "convolute" wheels for your bench grinder. These are fantastic for light deburring and edge polishing. You have to see to believe how nice these finish aluminum and stainless , will also make plain steel look like chrome.
Is a convolute wheel the same as a deburring wheel? I looked them up but couldn’t see much from the photos. They appear to just be grinding discs. One site however allowed me to zoom in (on a deburring wheel) and it looked like a dense Scotchbrite pad. Am I on the right track? I’d be willing to try one. I have a grinder with a wheel I don’t use. I considered replacing it with a cloth polishing wheel. Maybe I’ll get your convolute wheel instead. 🤔
Great advice ! metal fabricator/welder for over 50 years , those little details don't take that long so they can carry over into your "day job" customers notice .... sometimes even your boss will notice. Even if ... nobody notices , you still have pride in your work. I've fabricated machine parts for Solo Cup Corp , Rexam Beverage Corp , Bullet proof stainless steal windows for the Empire State Bldg . I'm sure SOMEBODY noticed......
Somebody definitely noticed, Randy. Guys like you and I notice the joints in the handrails at Disney Land.
A boss definitely noticed my work once. I was building utility trucks. He said he had never seen more beautiful work. But blue collar employees don’t care about their trucks and I took way too long.
He fired me.
The most important part of your welding should be making sure you've got the penetration and fill correct! I'd rather have a nice strong weld as opposed to a "snazzy" weld that's weak. Many "stack of dimes" mig welds are not strong at all or at least not as strong as they could or should be! Don't bet your life and fancy!
Thanks for sharing, nice video.
Great tips! My welds aren’t the greatest so I definitely clean them up 🤣
YOUR INFO IT GREAT! HELPS ME THINK ABOUT THINGS A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY. THANKS
Very nice video. The little things make a huge difference
Love this type of video. Keep them coming.
The step I would add to breaking sharp edges is using a 3 inch scotch brite disc on a right angle die grinder. I also have a scotch brite wheel mounted on a bench grinder. Sharp edges don't hold paint very well either.
I dig it!
A perfect tip for anyone to improve their project.
I’m a fabricator for a living and agree with your bit about just sanding your weld if it’s not that pretty. If it’s pretty, great. If not oh well. As long as there’s full penetration and fill, without a bunch of undercut, nobody gives a shit. If they do they’re probably a hobby welder that spends too much time on instagram and haven’t been humbled yet
Side note, I’m one of the ones that disagree with the stack of dimes mig look especially on tabs and brackets that see a load of any kind. Keep your wire at the leading edge of the puddle and quite playing around. You will not penetrate as much with any kind oscillating compared to a straight and steady push or pull weld. Just look at the automated welds on truck frames and that sort. No dimes. It would be easy to program if it had a benefit.
Glad to know you're not dead.
Me too!! 🙌
Great video, really like your attention to detail. Nice members only jacket also. Haha.
I loved that jacket! Until I put editing headphones on and realized I sound like a balloon. 🤦🏻♂️
Truth. Bevels and smooth edges can create a channel between the metal being bonded making for a stronger weld. Pretty is as pretty does. Function and strength is key when you're doing 150mph+ down the dragstrip or banging against the boulders in Johnson Valley.
He didn't mention in the video but I also commented saying basically the same. He mentioned beveling the exposed edges but not of the weld seam.
To better describe what you said, beveling gives you more surface area for the weld and also basically eliminates the worry of penetration thus making the strength much more consistent throughout the entire joint. 45° minimum total grove is a structural spec (22.5° on each with a v groove bevel or 45° with a single bevel.) For these brackets I'd do a single bevel and have the plate flush with the side edges beveling only the inner plate. Regardless, plenty strong really no matter how you construct it given you have solid welds!
Also makes it visually appealing as the weld will be more flush and the back and forth motion of bridging the gap and filling in the void gives you the scales (aka "stacking dimes look").
He didn't never his edges, instead he butted they two inside corners which is the same thing. Visually I don't like it as much because it gives it a weird rounded edge. I don't know if there's a strength advantage/disadvantage to either or.
I like it. Short, simple and full of ‘just the tip’s…
Stress risers are something you'd think more engineers understood.
Judging by the cars I often repair, engineers don’t understand much of anything. 😠
All very good tips. It does make a difference to people who know what they're looking for!
Artwork is something you hang on a wall !! Function and performance are more important to me !
It's all about details details details, practice, common sense and also
pride!
Thanks for the reminder Sir!
Don't forgot prep and patience
Also,about bevel/chamfered edges,not only do they look better,but also better for paint,paint really doesn't like square edges too much.
Great video dude.👍👍😎😎
Good call mate! Might make for a good short video with some closeups. 👏
@GarageFab Excellent,I'll keep an eye out for another fabulous installment.👍👍😎😎
If only there were more people like you in this world. Everyone is in such a rush, quality, pride and honor literally gets passed in the slow lane. I wonder why I do the work I aim to do sometimes, no one appreciates it. “Slow”…”Overkill”…”Excessive”…”Just make it work”…in some cases, sure, I get it. But I like to restore/rebuild/rejuvenate. Not just repair or build. This video shows I’m not the only ***“AMERICAN PRIDE” mfr left. Now, I’m off to watch you C-notch/Step notch video(s) for the pro tips I so greatly appreciate you for.
***not to suggest somewhere else in the world doesn’t have the same pride American’s use to…all though it seems to be fading world wide…
Oh it’s fading everywhere my friend. Here in America mainly the willingness to work and exert any amount of additional effort is incredibly rare.
Thank you my friend!!
I don’t think I have any step notch videos yet. 🤔 😂
I’m really glad you made this video and keep making videos. I would have a hole in my soul if you were unalive.
Depending on the size of the hole I’ve used everything from a blueberry to a pancake for round and a triscuit for square, but sushi is next level! 😂
Great video!
Exeletent video nice job congratulations 👏🎉👏👏🎉 for you job and you chanel 🙏👏 thanks for share 🙏
If you are having a hard time making your welds look good, try dual shield. It’s welding with training wheels, and I love it.
I’m not familiar with dual shield. Is this flux core with gas?
That’s exactly what it is. Dual Shield is the name brand. No splatter or smoke so it’s easy to see, and I think it’s easier to get good penetration, but I don’t have enough MIG time to have a meaningful opinion.
@jackjmaheriii I’ll look into it! Thank you. No splatter sounds too good to be true!
As a mechanic and chassis builder for 20 years, I agree with most of your tips however I don't grind my welds, if it's a bad weld it's a good reminder not to do it again. If it's a good weld, show it off to the world.
On a side note, Dim Sims tend to work better then sushi also.
Keep moving forward!
Hopefully that wasn’t misunderstood by everyone as, “If you can’t make safe welds, hide it with a grinder.” That certainly wasn’t the intent.
Rather, it’s the idea that even the perfect weld is still ugly. The only way to improve “perfection” is to go a step further and finish the welds.
This is a little phrase I learned long ago. A laborer works with his hands, a. Craftsman works with his hands and his head, an artist works with his hands, his head, and his heart.
Any content is good content, you’re killing it bro!
Great advice!! Thank you!!
My pleasure, Justin. Thank you for your time!
Good to see you're NOT dead.😊
I am grateful! I’ve got a few things to do still.
@@GarageFab ...and that's what I want on my tombstone - "but I've got a few things to do still".
Good video man! These videos is noting but value for your subscribers, I say keep them going forward. 😊
“Straight edges are boring”. Exactly
That "bevel edge" you spoke of is called breaking the edge. Believe it or not. It's a way to help prevent it from cracking.
Actually "breaking the edge" is called (rather means) rounding, beveling, chamfering and deburring the edge.
Breaking the edge on wood and asphalt helps to prevent cracking.... With metal it is to prevent you from cracking your knuckle wide open!
I've never heard that with metal and it doesn't make sense. But I'm open to learning as I know I don't know everything.... Yet! 😂 (That's a joke)
Happy Ground Hog Day and thanks a mint for another great tutorial Fred
I de-burr everything. I was shop foreman and fabricator at a heavy equipment construction outfit for about ten years and the boss would fuss at me for taking too much time on smoothing out edges. I told him that smooth edges are cheaper than an ER visit when someone gets a bad cut. He left me alone after that. Besides, I'm a better grinder than I am a welder. 😂
Sage advice and a great attitude..like it.
Great tips! I personally like to use hand files for bevels in smaller or tight areas. Also, putting holes not only looks good, but when done right will drop weight without sacrificing much strength. I feel like the biggest tip I could give. Is fabrication is art, theres no need to add stress. Have fun with it.
Adding holes in some cases ADDS strength or is required unless you want to add supports ( for instance... Probably the only instance 😂 but dimple dies in sheet metal!)
You can also use those stripper discs to break sharp corners without taking too much material off
They also make ball end flap wheel bits(?) That would make bigger holes easier. (Big counter sinks are extremely expensive 😂)
Or a pneumatic chamfer tools are pretty cheap!
If you ever want to chamfer a hole get some debur hand tools. Much safer and more controlled than a grinder for the job. Unless youre working on some hardened stuff.
Might sound strange since I’ve been fabbing since 2007, but I only learned of the debur tool recently. (2-3 years ago?) One of the greatest tools ever, and yet I still forget to use it sometimes. 🤷♂️
Short episodes are great too!
I agree with the bevels looking better but the REASON i do it is because i am the only one wrking on my project and i dont like busting knuckles and cutting my hands on sharp corners haha.
Hahaha! Fair enough. 🙌
Bevels/chamfers is what separates the gentleman from the savages.
Hahaha! SAVAGES!
thanks again, great shop.
Very good tips, thank you.
As AVE said “grinder and paint makes me the welder I ain’t “.😊
Yes! 😆
@@GarageFab Hi there, I didn’t tell you how much I like your videos. Good tips for a back yarder like me to improve my projects. Look forward to the next one. Keep up the good work. Cheers, Mike
@@mikethelakesidelogger8757 Thank you Mike! You are insanely appreciated. 🙏 The backyard enthusiast is in fact my target audience. ❤️
Keep em comin big guy!!
Gladly!
Thank you
Thank YOU!!
Really good advice. Thank you.
Deburr tool! Easy way to get a bevel on those smaller holes.
I'm the same way with detail. It's the add, OCD or whatever mental problem I have but if I don't it will keep me up at night. Lol
Haha! I can envision you getting out of bed in your pajamas to go knock down an edge. 😆
@@GarageFab hahahaha. All that with a deranged look on my face. Lol
I agree with each of your points. Nice.
Holes With dimple dies actually makes the part stronger….and lighter. Cheers
Never seen a square window on an airplane. Curves provide strength and lessen weak points.
Hence the term, "Weak POINTS."
Also, ever notice dust on the leading edge of a ceiling fan blade? Yep!
That is because there is ZERO velocity on the leading edge of a blade or wing.
Beveling edges allows paint to have a stronger and longer surface edge (Did you say, :EDGE???") fro the paint to stick and not have a weak point.
Curves, or arches, or arcs provide strength for a structure.
Most importantly, they just look cool.
"Straight lines" ONLY exist in theory and math, and we are not here for that...
Nice Fab Work Tips!
Great work as always solid fabrication tips
Really very interesting .
Thank you, Francois!
New big projects coming?? How exciting 😂
😐
Thanks for your videos. I have learned alot.
Nothing like a quickie
Good tips, thanks!
Wow So True ya Hit the Nail on the Head Make it Look Like something to be Proud of Not some Piece Of Crap So Ya Makes ya Wonder why People Go to big Shops to get the Stuff done I've been weldin for over 45 yrs and People Say Farmer ya Do great work and Ya Hav Pride in what ya Do for us Keep it up Ya Make Me Proud Of What Ya Do And say ya wood hav Been great Partner Back in the Day Keep it up Ya Got this I Wood say ya Be Around for awhile Ya Say How it is Don't see that Much no more Thks for sharin from Canada SK LAter
Thank you my friend! Your kind words mean more to me than you know.
Great content brother!
Thank you my friend! 🙏
I see that new 225x in the background.... I just picked one of those up too !
Why you being so nosey? Nothing to see here, move along.
I don’t know how to use it yet. 😆 Been planning a series on learning TIG using only WeldCoach.com
@@GarageFab Shiny new things catch my eye 🤣. I'm about to have a Mig 285 on the way too. I'm definitely going to book a Weld Coach session or 2 as well. I've already learned alot from Justin's TFS videos over the years, time to get serious now that I actually have the machine!
Yes!
Worthwild suggestions.
Excellent video
Should get a pneumatic chamfering tool... I completely forgot about them.