I've swap S 48V controller which I was using with 60V custom battery to X 60V controller but I can't see difference. There should be torque and speed increase but bike is behaving same way. Ant BMS is also showing that it Takes only 60A while it should reach at least 80A now. Is there any programming needed?
Would this not eventually burn out the x160 motor or blow the controller?? I heard the x160 motor is different?? Is this not true? What are all the differences other than rim size, no headlight, and battery voltage? Thank you!
I just changed my x160 battery to a 60v With the stock X controller, just noticed at the start It’s louder and sounds like it skips, might need to change the tension on my bike since now it’s different torque 😅
@@gritshift Inside the controller look for a small metal bar. Some controllers have 1 2 or 3 of them. You can add solder or bridge them to increase current flow increasing more wattage more torque. And thanks yes that's my e90. Its just has basic bolt ons and mhd stage 2+ probably 400hp lol
@@gritshift Yes and make a video doing a shunt mod to the controller. And damn I wish I knew that before I purchased the delphi coils. I had been chasing misfires and the issue were my injectors. Got some index 12s and no more misfires.
I’m not a pro, but I’ve heard the long term is you’ll need to get new motor, and possibly new belt. Just like a car engine. If you up the rev and Hp it’ll need some supporting modes to handle the gains.
@@gritshift damn $2k?? was it used? what a deal! I heard the x160 wheels are actually very desirable coz moto conversion and often sells for more than the 19", btw where do people normally find 60v batteries? local market places? I found some guy locally selling the stock suspension for $60, my current plan now is x160 + new fork + battery, then later on wheel + controller, it's like i wanna get a sur ron but there isn't even stock so this is the only route hahaha
@@gritshift makes sense esp if we are upgrading all the electronics down the line anyway haha, just subbed bro cant wait to see more x160 upgrade content
So I’ve seen other videos where they cut the green and black wire to remove speed govener, anyone have any knowledge on this? And if so, do you gain anything from cutting the wire without having an upgraded battery?
I did that on my x160 Segway and got 37mph on my 48v. Unfortunately the battery cuts off going full throttle which I’m assuming is a safety cutoff. I’m getting my 60v later on today and I’m hoping that I’m able to run things smoothly.
@@christopherfigueroa4143 Did you find it worked fine now with the 60v battery? I ask cause I’m getting a 60v for mine tomorrow and want to know your experience before I cut that wire.
The test wasn’t necessarily done correctly. I have both. The speedometer is calibrated differently from the stock Surron. Also the sprocket is much larger. The controller has no impact on anything. If u swap the 19inch wheels and sprocket from the x260 to the x160 along with the battery the top speed will be exactly the same. You’ll need to use a gps app to confirm because again the speedometer is calibrated for the much larger stock sprocket
@@williamtkaczuk4825 I got it and the mileage is crazy, insane if kept under 45, (get usually 65+miles a charge if I’m mashing it entire time at or under 45) I’m sure it’s close to 130 miles at 20-25 mph
@@DESOUSAB yes and no, I only get up to 45mph, but haven't touched anything on the bike besides swapping better battery, to go 65+ youd need a beefy controller and tbh I think the x160 motor wouldn't enjoy it. X160 starts to have issues past7.5 kw, sur ron is double but will have issues oast 16kw, testing belts and stripping sprockets alongside burning out the motor
Recently purchased Segway x160 I swapped out battery to surron 60v 32ah the controller to x Controller and a surron Motor. I put a 48tooth sprocket . Max mph I can get is 37mph according to bike speedometer. Is this normal speed after all the swaps…. And can a surron harness correct the speed??? GREAT VIDEO BTW
@@michaell1212 I ended up putting a Surron controller with the Surron battery too and it’s night and day difference in power. Nothing for these bikes are cheap but they are a blast!
I would like some help with getting one of these bikes. I want to get a x160 and keep everything but the battery stock. If I order it and change the battery to a 60v 52ah battery everything should work and I should get at least double the range doing so. If anyone can let me know that this would work. I personally don't need more power from this bike, all I need is the best range I can get.
Went with the gladiator battery, still capped at 36mph, any guesses on how to hit 45? Battery only has positive and negative connection, no harness connection
Awesome video just subbed! So what I'm hearing is the x160/ x260 /surron motors are all the same even tho they "say" one motor is bigger then the other? I have the x160 and all I would have to do is upgrade the battery and sprocket size and I would be going as fast as a x260 basically? From what I understand the controller upgrade from x160 to Surron x would be a waste of money because its the same.. so all in all just the battery swap and the sprocket swap and I would have speeds of x260 correct ?
@@gritshift Thank you sir I actually just watched your other video explaining this. Thanks for the research you guys are doing. it helps us saves money were we can !
Hi, amazing video. I’m wondering to save some money could I buy a x160 or sur Ron s and change the controller to bac 8000 and the battery to 72v? Would it hold up fine and be just like a upgraded sur Ron?
@@flatgrounders9694 that’s dope! With the new controller, does it keep up or go faster than the suron? Also what was the cost savings, if any compared with the x260?
No one do this BTW, all the comments here are misleading . The youtuber never edited this video saying its misleading either. He made a update video saying this isnt a great idea because it will ruin your motor. Which it did mine after listening to this guy. But does anyone know if i can just swap the motor for a surron motor will it work fine?
This is sick. Im wondering what the x160s test rider’s weight was? Secondly, if you were to swap the controller for a sur ron controller and the battery to 60V, would you then be basically a stock sur ron?
I have a segway with the sur ron x controller, it 100% matches their results, may have wasted time getting the controller lol. Also, there are some easy replaced parts to be the same as a sur ron, can save money this way too. Also, if you want supermoto setup, keep the wheels and change the sprocket to get that top end out of it.
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Looks like a fun test! Keep the Sur-Ron experiments coming! 👍
Thinking of throwing the 60v 60ah in there for the full range
I did this and it worked great for a few days but not it’s got a 16mph limiter on? Anyone know how to fix it?
The battery upgrade to make speed faster does it work with sur ron youth
I've swap S 48V controller which I was using with 60V custom battery to X 60V controller but I can't see difference. There should be torque and speed increase but bike is behaving same way. Ant BMS is also showing that it Takes only 60A while it should reach at least 80A now. Is there any programming needed?
Work a stock surron controller with 72v ?
This is a sick video please keep making more!! I was planning to get a 60v battery what the range on the x160 with the stock 60v?
Im thinking trying battery and controller from the x to the x160 and see what happens with the display on the speedometer 🤔🤔
@@gritshift yeah just tried it on my x160 yesterday my Segway is officially a surron x with crazy torque haha thx btw 🫶🏼💪🏼
@@lil14what was your top speed and what size sprocket is it stock?
what’s that light called
Can someone link to the battery he uses?
Nice job Red Rocket.. enjoyed it 💥💪
Excellent 3 MINUTE video. Straight to the point w/o a bunch of BS. The comedy was just right too.
What about 60v battery with x controller?? Thanks
Does the x160 have a governor wire that can be cut to increase the top speed?
No its in the app. Change it to Off Road mode. I also just change the sprocket. I went from stock to 42T and I went from 31mph to 40mph Gps
Would this not eventually burn out the x160 motor or blow the controller??
I heard the x160 motor is different?? Is this not true? What are all the differences other than rim size, no headlight, and battery voltage?
Thank you!
They said the 60v runs perfect on the stock motor
No heat controller?
Great video. It would be cool to see a range test between the 48 and 60v!
What are the specs on those tires and sz
I just changed my x160 battery to a 60v With the stock X controller, just noticed at the start It’s louder and sounds like it skips, might need to change the tension on my bike since now it’s different torque 😅
What was motor temp difference?
Where could I buy a 60v battery from??
hows it going guys? you guys bought my x160 a couple weeks back hows it going?
Good info Nice 👍 no need to upgrade the controller
Did you guys think about the different sprocket and wheel sizes?
I would like to see a test with a 42 tooth sprocket as that gives the same gear ratio as a stock 48 tooth on the sur ron
@@gritshift i would love to see that
@@gritshift Maybe when you put a 60V battery do the shunt mod to up the amperage and you will have yourself a X controller?
@@gritshift Inside the controller look for a small metal bar. Some controllers have 1 2 or 3 of them. You can add solder or bridge them to increase current flow increasing more wattage more torque. And thanks yes that's my e90. Its just has basic bolt ons and mhd stage 2+ probably 400hp lol
@@gritshift Yes and make a video doing a shunt mod to the controller. And damn I wish I knew that before I purchased the delphi coils. I had been chasing misfires and the issue were my injectors. Got some index 12s and no more misfires.
Hey thanks for the video, I was hoping you could tell me which Shinko tires those are?
@@gritshift thank you
Will there be any long term side affects of running the stock controller with the 60 v ?
I’m not a pro, but I’ve heard the long term is you’ll need to get new motor, and possibly new belt. Just like a car engine. If you up the rev and Hp it’ll need some supporting modes to handle the gains.
what and the maximum size to drive this machine without being embarrassed ?
Okay thank you bro 😉
Please test the difference with an upgraded X controller on that X160. Would love to see how the motor holds up.
@@gritshift You're doing the Lord's work.
what about x160 motor + sur ron controller + 60v battery?
nvm I just read the other comments, I'll prob get the x160 and upgrade the battery first 🔥
@@gritshift damn $2k?? was it used? what a deal!
I heard the x160 wheels are actually very desirable coz moto conversion and often sells for more than the 19", btw where do people normally find 60v batteries? local market places? I found some guy locally selling the stock suspension for $60, my current plan now is x160 + new fork + battery, then later on wheel + controller, it's like i wanna get a sur ron but there isn't even stock so this is the only route hahaha
@@gritshift makes sense esp if we are upgrading all the electronics down the line anyway haha, just subbed bro cant wait to see more x160 upgrade content
@gritshift8657 do you think this is a good deal I have a 72v razor that goes 60. He said he wants 300 cash is that a good deal
So I’ve seen other videos where they cut the green and black wire to remove speed govener, anyone have any knowledge on this? And if so, do you gain anything from cutting the wire without having an upgraded battery?
I did that on my x160 Segway and got 37mph on my 48v. Unfortunately the battery cuts off going full throttle which I’m assuming is a safety cutoff. I’m getting my 60v later on today and I’m hoping that I’m able to run things smoothly.
@@christopherfigueroa4143 is it better with 60v battery?
@@christopherfigueroa4143 Did you find it worked fine now with the 60v battery? I ask cause I’m getting a 60v for mine tomorrow and want to know your experience before I cut that wire.
What were your guys experience with the batteries and controllers ? I’m looking to do the same
How are you only getting 33 on the 48 ? my stock seg x160 does over 40.
@@gritshift LOL I just noticed it will not display mph.. My bad.
@@gritshift sweet.. ty :)
The test wasn’t necessarily done correctly. I have both. The speedometer is calibrated differently from the stock Surron. Also the sprocket is much larger. The controller has no impact on anything. If u swap the 19inch wheels and sprocket from the x260 to the x160 along with the battery the top speed will be exactly the same. You’ll need to use a gps app to confirm because again the speedometer is calibrated for the much larger stock sprocket
This comment made me snag a 160 with intent to put the 60v 60ah on there
@@TheeDrSack The Chi Gladiator? Same, got my X160 and have a used Sur Ron battery on the way! But oh man I really want that $2500 beast...
@@williamtkaczuk4825 I got it and the mileage is crazy, insane if kept under 45, (get usually 65+miles a charge if I’m mashing it entire time at or under 45) I’m sure it’s close to 130 miles at 20-25 mph
@@TheeDrSack Sorry - are you saying you can get up to 65+ mph with a Chi Gladiator on an X160??
@@DESOUSAB yes and no, I only get up to 45mph, but haven't touched anything on the bike besides swapping better battery, to go 65+ youd need a beefy controller and tbh I think the x160 motor wouldn't enjoy it. X160 starts to have issues past7.5 kw, sur ron is double but will have issues oast 16kw, testing belts and stripping sprockets alongside burning out the motor
How many miles do you get with 60v battery in the x160?
What is the tire size on the x160 in the video?
@@gritshift Looks much better than the stock 17in tires. Gives it a beefier look.
@@gritshift don’t seem to find these, any chance for a link
Recently purchased Segway x160 I swapped out battery to surron 60v 32ah the controller to x Controller and a surron Motor. I put a 48tooth sprocket . Max mph I can get is 37mph according to bike speedometer. Is this normal speed after all the swaps…. And can a surron harness correct the speed??? GREAT VIDEO BTW
Cut the wire
I put a Surron battery in my sons x160. don’t feel much more power, if at all, range is better though. Am I missing something?
Maybe controller? Idk after watching this video I expected it to feel stronger
@@chaserivers2105 I was thinking about doing the same thing ... Now that I hear this maybe I don't know .. those batteries are expensive.
@@michaell1212 I ended up putting a Surron controller with the Surron battery too and it’s night and day difference in power. Nothing for these bikes are cheap but they are a blast!
I would like some help with getting one of these bikes. I want to get a x160 and keep everything but the battery stock. If I order it and change the battery to a 60v 52ah battery everything should work and I should get at least double the range doing so. If anyone can let me know that this would work. I personally don't need more power from this bike, all I need is the best range I can get.
The motors are the same between the 160 and 260??
Went with the gladiator battery, still capped at 36mph, any guesses on how to hit 45? Battery only has positive and negative connection, no harness connection
The range at 30-35 mph is unreal however
@@gritshift thank you!
Finally got it to the low 40mph by removing the bluetooth box!
@@gritshift that’s not what I’d call her but yes, oh the bike! Yes!
@@TheeDrSack Where is the bluetooth box located? I'd love to do this mod.. still no issues as of today? Thanks
try an aftermarket controller on the x160 motor
Awesome video just subbed! So what I'm hearing is the x160/ x260 /surron motors are all the same even tho they "say" one motor is bigger then the other? I have the x160 and all I would have to do is upgrade the battery and sprocket size and I would be going as fast as a x260 basically? From what I understand the controller upgrade from x160 to Surron x would be a waste of money because its the same.. so all in all just the battery swap and the sprocket swap and I would have speeds of x260 correct ?
@@gritshift Thank you sir I actually just watched your other video explaining this. Thanks for the research you guys are doing. it helps us saves money were we can !
That’s good to know, hey what type of tires do you have, I’m about to purchase a new pair those look clean.
@@gritshift awesome thanks.
What kid of bag does Mr Business have on the side of his battery? Looks nice!
Hi, amazing video. I’m wondering to save some money could I buy a x160 or sur Ron s and change the controller to bac 8000 and the battery to 72v? Would it hold up fine and be just like a upgraded sur Ron?
Thanks for the feedback! Yes you can, we actually have one of our EBMX controllers on the bike from this video now. and another X160 going 72V.
thinking of doing same thing
@@flatgrounders9694 that’s dope! With the new controller, does it keep up or go faster than the suron? Also what was the cost savings, if any compared with the x260?
Need to tighten chain
10 - 15 mm play =)
More segway x160 videos please. If you're upgrading it.
Will do! Thank you for the feedback.
No one do this BTW, all the comments here are misleading . The youtuber never edited this video saying its misleading either. He made a update video saying this isnt a great idea because it will ruin your motor. Which it did mine after listening to this guy. But does anyone know if i can just swap the motor for a surron motor will it work fine?
This is sick. Im wondering what the x160s test rider’s weight was? Secondly, if you were to swap the controller for a sur ron controller and the battery to 60V, would you then be basically a stock sur ron?
Oh and subbed. #15 right here!
Other X160 differences: 17" wheels, 58tooth sprocket, no headlight/tail light, 1" lower front and rear suspension, single crown fork,
@@gritshift roger that. Appreciate it. I have a 160 lined up to buy today.
I have a segway with the sur ron x controller, it 100% matches their results, may have wasted time getting the controller lol. Also, there are some easy replaced parts to be the same as a sur ron, can save money this way too. Also, if you want supermoto setup, keep the wheels and change the sprocket to get that top end out of it.
So is there no difference from the 160 to the 260 controller? Can u flash the firmware to match a 260?
Will it work with sur ron youth
The battery upgrade to make speed faster does it work with sur ron youth
That middle bike did not have a bac8000 if it's that close to the stock surron 😂😂😂😂
Red rocket 😂😂😅 gold
This is so neat. I want one!
Bring dis bike in India🇮🇳..... I hope u I'll get good income on it...
That chain is so loose