It’s a typical catch lightening in a bottle signing Without long term financial obligations and a short sample size of success. Part of the 86 win plan.
While the other major market teams focus on bolstering their farm systems and signing talented veterans, the Cubs throw their fans a bone with a "hope he's good" swing in the dark.
This is one of those types of players that Jed likes. High risk high reward and not as expensive as a player like Fried. Lets hope that this is one of those hidden gem players that Jed has a knack for finding.
I am tired of these "I guess we will find out" signings. These type of guys almost never work out. The Cubs need to sign guys that you know what you are getting.
His bio says “Over the past four years, the lefty has averaged only 51 innings per year”. IF he can avoid injury (which apparently would be unusual for him), this could be a solid acquisition and good addition to the rotation. Hopefully past will not be prologue in that respect.
Not a Cubs fan, but I think this is a great signing. I hoped my team, the Mets, grabbed Boyd. I think the Cubs are lining up for a big ‘25 - as much as I hope they don’t make it. If the Cubs shore up their pen, I seriously expect them to run away with the Central next year.
Wesneski should definitely be traded, and when he is, I sincerely hope he finds the right coach. He's got everything he needs to be lights out except the ability to lock it in consistently.
Tom and Jed looking for a cheap unreliable player and pays the very high multimillion dollar deal. Total trash Tom with his moron sidekick Jed!. I could see this is another Dansby contract. Cheap gets cheap. YOu get what you pay for.....sad.
Very Tailion of them. Ya know what. I've been Jeds last supporter. This is the last year I do so so. 🤷🏻 That's 15+ per you could of used to get an Elite Catcher or Closer or go after a Pete Alonso the Power Bat we need Even go after Soto. Let the young SPs play!!!!
What elite catcher? There aren’t any that are available. Alonso? Cmon man, so then what you just throw Busch away…you want to spend $150m+ for Alonso, seriously?!?
@ that ship sailed long ago, let it go. Cubs let Shwarber go because NL didn’t have DH at the time plus the fact he was caught up in that group with Rizzo/Baez/Bryant who after the WS didn’t do squat, it was time for a change and for the most part that was a great decision by Theo etc
@ I’m just saying Alonso doesn’t make any sense to overpay when we already had that type of production from a younger and cheaper Shwarber 35-40 hrs a yr now people wanna overpay for Alonso
Another bargain bin pick up. This guy is clearly a number 4 or 5 pitcher in a rotation. Granted it’s only 2 years but he’s getting paid like a number 2 or 3 starter. I hope this isn’t the big starter Cubs fans were looking forward to. But these are the Cubs we’re talking about so it wouldn’t surprise me if it is. Let the bargain shopping continue.
anything below ... that was not a splash, that was a drip. The Cubs are not serious about winning, only filling roster spots with nice or less than nice players who will not cost them too much.
Let me translate for Sam. “I’m not excited about this signing and I pray to God this doesn’t turn out to be another Smiley and we’re stuck with $15m for 2 years.”
39 ip's after an injury shouldn't command that much. Another lefty, another question mark, another half measure. I've been patient but this type of signing makes me question Jeds's baseball IQ. I suppose he could be slotted into the bullpen as a much needed lefty.
This is a head scratcher and a half of a move. The money makes you think that someone in the lower rotation is going to get moved. Maybe the Cubs have someone who is hot on Taillion for whatever reason, but this is a move that doesn't make sense to me, especially at this time of the off season. I just think this deal would still have been there in 6-8 weeks.
Boyd is clearly a #5 in rotation…and you need like 8-10 starting pitchers for a full season. I like moving Assad, wicks to 6,7 starting pitchers However, Boyd seems expensive. I would be shocked if he got 150 innings this year…
I consider him bullpen depth, another lefty to compete with Rob Zastryzny, Luke Little & Jordan Wicks. Cubs don't need a 3rd lefty in their rotation, after Shota Imanaga & Justin Steele.
@RyanPeters05 why do the Cubs need another lefty in their rotation? meanwhile, their bullpen could definitely use more lefty depth. baseball is a team game. players & pitchers need to focus on what is best for the team. they need to perform the job where they are needed. this is why starting pitcher Drew Smyly pitched out of the bullpen for the Cubs last season.
@@johnbrennan4449 14.5 mil a season is what a closer makes out of the bullpen. They are paying him like a starter. And Smyly was also paid like a starter. He was demoted to the bullpen because he was so bad in his last hand full of starts. If they just gave Boyd that much money to be a middle reliever, then we have a major issue with how this organization spends their money.
@ I don’t think having lefties as starting pitchers is a bad thing at all. Bullpen is different because there’s a 3 batter rule. Just having quality starting pitchers is the most important thing in the sport. It’s similar to having quality QB in football
Hoyer is the worst. This is now year 3 where they spend a ton of money on middle of the road players. You have a top 5 farm system, supposedly. Go after the top of the market and let the young guys fill in the rest of the roster. These 240 million dollar payrolls of average don’t work. It leads to 83 wins. The experiment is over. Go get some damn players.
This is exhibit A that Jed's real plan is for the impact prospects i.e. Shaw, Cassie, Horton and Ballesteros to come up and produce before trading or signing someone that puts them over the top which is the model of the 2016 team.
This is just reallocating Smyley money plus 10 million. This is Cubs playing broke hoping to get 180 innings out of a guy who is more likely to pitch 100 a year. We will see but seems like a typical Jed and Ricketts signing.
I like the signing. It’s a 2 yr contract. He can bring some veteran experience and be a mentor to the young pitchers I thought he was one of the best pitchers during the playoffs for Cleveland
LOL! So, let's focus on the last 39 innings he's pitched that were good, and ignore the previous 880 innings where he was terrible? Sorry, but yours is one of the worst takes imaginable. Signing this guy is like drawing to a 2-outer inside straight for $30,000,000.
It's just another yawn choice by Jed Hoyer. If a real proven star is available, Jed passes. But if there's an older injury-proven, reclamation project, Jed jumps for joy. Ridiculous! So much for "intelligent spending", which is just a euphemism for cheap. I'm sick of Jed. OR is it Ricketts? Too bad we can't fire the owner! Yuck...yuck...yuck!!!
Sam, love the show. But you seem to have been brainwashed over time by this clubs approach and are too encapsulated in wishful thinking to accept this deal. And I don't mean that to insult you by any means. This is not a more things to come signing. This is a telling you exactly where the off-season is headed kind of signing. Unacceptable from one of the richest franchises in all of baseball. But as long as people continue to show up and sell out home games, nothing will change. Sucks.
They want 2026 be the go all in year! There will be 120m of salaries coming off the books. And only around 80m committed. With around 180m to use under the tax. If the prospects pan out as advertised, Cubs will have a decade of good years coming. If they add to their roster for the next two years, Cubs can be good for 15 years starting next season, but don’t bash them if they did not go all in the next two years or complaining they did not push to win WS the next two years. If we do something that jeopardizes the future, we deserve to be continue called lovable losers. Only true Cubs fans care about Cubs as a whole! All those analyst like Passan, Rothenthal, they are not Cubs fans, they say things to create short term buzz. True Cubs fans care about the team’s long term future, not just winning right now! If Jed does not make the Cubs good next season, he will be out as GM. But not that he did a terrible job, he laid foundation to the next success period, just he has to take Cubs to the next level. And I would be also very nervous about next GM, since you could hire a worse one and ruin the org. But let him go is also not a wrong decision if he can’t get Cubs into playoff next season.
They are a big market team and told us this wasn't a rebuild. It shouldn't take them 6 or 7 years to build a good team. They can blow everyone out of the water with their spending within their division and should be winning it almost every year because of that. Waiting for prospects to turn into super stars is a giant risk that a big market team should not be taking. Go out and sign one and then if one of those prospects turns into something great! But don't rely on that.
Meh, they were supposed to be good for a decade last time, we got 5 or 6. Cut all your expectations in half. Addison Russell type shit always ruins projections.
Sasaki is likely going to sign with Padres or Yankees.Cubs are not going to take the plunge and try to get in playoff range.They will also trade Bellinger for a bag of chips.I've seen this before.
I've seen enough of Assad to know that he isn't a viable starter. Barely 5 innings per start just doesn't get the job done, unless they do that "bullpen game" crap once every 5 games that's all the rage now and I despise that. Boyd should be an upgrade over Assad and now Assad can be a long reliever and spot starter maybe to give guys extra rest, which is what he should have been. But this acquisition doesn't really move the needle with me. They need to get Sasaki. Then I'll be excited.
@@tomrockhill8634 , he'd probably be most valuable being the first guy out of the bullpen in middle relief when the starter has to throw way too many pitches to get through the first 4 innings. He can come in and give 2 or 3 innings and keep the game close, and he'd probably only need 2 days of rest between appearances so he can be used a lot more often. The Cubs had Smyly and Wesneski in that role last year, and they weren't great. I think he will be great in that role. It seems to fit his psychological makeup better.
@@JayRod.316 , I'm asuming that was because he was coming back from serious injury and that when healthy, he'll be closer to 6 innings per start. But yeah, this is yet another "get better on the margins" move that adds 1 win at best. Cubs need to make a big splash.
Look's like there's no team option on this deal either. That is high octane risk-taking (from a small-market team perspective at least). This cannot be the marquee move for a guy that wants to remain in the Cubs front office, the next moves + whatever happens with Bellinger will be Spanky's last stand.
It’s a “here we go again” signing
14.5 million a yr for Boyd is ridiculous
Drew Smyly version 2.0 This seems like a smartest guy in the room signing.
This is exactly what I thought too.
It’s a typical catch lightening in a bottle signing Without long term financial obligations and a short sample size of success. Part of the 86 win plan.
While the other major market teams focus on bolstering their farm systems and signing talented veterans, the Cubs throw their fans a bone with a "hope he's good" swing in the dark.
Yep, that's rickets and hoyer for ya, bullshit already
No major market teams have bolstered their farm yet. Chill
Shrewd and Calculated. Should be on Jed's headstone.
Boyd hasn’t thrown more than 78 innings in the past 5 years….
This is one of those types of players that Jed likes. High risk high reward and not as expensive as a player like Fried. Lets hope that this is one of those hidden gem players that Jed has a knack for finding.
My instant reaction was an eye roll and laugh
Hopefully they get Sasaki too as we need help.
His agent expressed that they are not interested in signing with the cubs.
@@rexeffect7122, really? I didn't see that. I'd be really surprised if he did say that. It's not diplomatic at all.
@@rexeffect7122where have you seen this?
Source?@@rexeffect7122
@@rexeffect7122didn't see that either...source?
I am tired of these "I guess we will find out" signings. These type of guys almost never work out. The Cubs need to sign guys that you know what you are getting.
Isn't that a lot of dough for an aging picher with a history of injuries?
AGREED!
Has Smyly/Chatwood vibes.
Chatwood 😂😂😂 tyler fkn Chatwood
His bio says “Over the past four years, the lefty has averaged only 51 innings per year”. IF he can avoid injury (which apparently would be unusual for him), this could be a solid acquisition and good addition to the rotation. Hopefully past will not be prologue in that respect.
Sasaki to San Diego won’t surprise me…
Another great solo show
don’t like paying that much for a guy who’s as injury prone as him. we’ll see tho i guess
Small market move!!
2/29 is a really high risk for a team trying to find value.
that's a lot of money for a below average pitcher
Not a Cubs fan, but I think this is a great signing. I hoped my team, the Mets, grabbed Boyd. I think the Cubs are lining up for a big ‘25 - as much as I hope they don’t make it. If the Cubs shore up their pen, I seriously expect them to run away with the Central next year.
I’m assuming they are doing this deal because they have a trade in place for someone, Assad, wicks, Wesneski are 3 names to watch for
Wesneski should definitely be traded, and when he is, I sincerely hope he finds the right coach. He's got everything he needs to be lights out except the ability to lock it in consistently.
Big red sign here. 2yr 29mil for Boyd is wayyyy overpay. We are goona have another high-salary mediocre team.
"You guys dont understand i am money ball guys i know how to get a edge on the billion dollar teams guys" jed hoyer
Tom and Jed looking for a cheap unreliable player and pays the very high multimillion dollar deal. Total trash Tom with his moron sidekick Jed!. I could see this is another Dansby contract. Cheap gets cheap. YOu get what you pay for.....sad.
Essentially nothing changed,but will see
Very Tailion of them. Ya know what. I've been Jeds last supporter. This is the last year I do so so. 🤷🏻 That's 15+ per you could of used to get an Elite Catcher or Closer or go after a Pete Alonso the Power Bat we need Even go after Soto. Let the young SPs play!!!!
What elite catcher? There aren’t any that are available. Alonso? Cmon man, so then what you just throw Busch away…you want to spend $150m+ for Alonso, seriously?!?
@@gregmatyas4272don’t want Alonso night as well kept Shwarber
@ that ship sailed long ago, let it go. Cubs let Shwarber go because NL didn’t have DH at the time plus the fact he was caught up in that group with Rizzo/Baez/Bryant who after the WS didn’t do squat, it was time for a change and for the most part that was a great decision by Theo etc
@ I’m just saying Alonso doesn’t make any sense to overpay when we already had that type of production from a younger and cheaper Shwarber 35-40 hrs a yr now people wanna overpay for Alonso
@ Either way I don’t want Alonso at this point
Yep, Sazaki would help alot but the Dodgers seem like they are all over it. Still need a player like Yates to help the 9th or 8th inning.
Are Cubs trading Wicks then? Why won’t the Cubs over pay for elite talent but will overpay for this guy?
what other starter are they gonna acquire
Is this guy really much better than a young prospect getting innings?
Financially wise I think Sasaki is the only big name pitch that makes sense with our bullpen needs that we can sign if we keep Bellinger
Ben Brown could slide into the rotation.He throws in the mid to upper 90s and throws strikes
Boyd might wind up in the pen so it could work
Cubs have more MOR depth than any other team. Because the Dodgers have aces on their staff
Typical Cubs move, a let’s hope he can give us something. Just can’t get a solid guy
The Cubs throwing money away is nothing new for them.
"Cautiously Intrigued"? More like completely nauseated.
Another bargain bin pick up. This guy is clearly a number 4 or 5 pitcher in a rotation. Granted it’s only 2 years but he’s getting paid like a number 2 or 3 starter. I hope this isn’t the big starter Cubs fans were looking forward to. But these are the Cubs we’re talking about so it wouldn’t surprise me if it is. Let the bargain shopping continue.
What a terrible signing. 29 million for a pitcher who has only had 8 games of decent baseball. Terrible just terrible
anything below ... that was not a splash, that was a drip. The Cubs are not serious about winning, only filling roster spots with nice or less than nice players who will not cost them too much.
Let me translate for Sam. “I’m not excited about this signing and I pray to God this doesn’t turn out to be another Smiley and we’re stuck with $15m for 2 years.”
39 ip's after an injury shouldn't command that much. Another lefty, another question mark, another half measure. I've been patient but this type of signing makes me question Jeds's baseball IQ. I suppose he could be slotted into the bullpen as a much needed lefty.
i guess Ernie Broglio was , sadly, no longer available.
That's the problem. They are acting like a small market rather than acting like the big market team that they are.
Jed is the 😂smartest guy in the room
Over/Under on how many games he pitches is 6...he's a walking injury
seems to me like another reclamation project
Drew Smyly 2.0
FIRE JED HOYER!
Awful.
This is a head scratcher and a half of a move. The money makes you think that someone in the lower rotation is going to get moved. Maybe the Cubs have someone who is hot on Taillion for whatever reason, but this is a move that doesn't make sense to me, especially at this time of the off season. I just think this deal would still have been there in 6-8 weeks.
Just watch what the DODGERS, cards, and Yankees do 😅😅
seems to me like another reclamation project. Never heard of it him before
I wonder why the Dodgers didn't sign Boyd? They're snatching up all the good players..... oh
Boyd is clearly a #5 in rotation…and you need like 8-10 starting pitchers for a full season. I like moving Assad, wicks to 6,7 starting pitchers
However, Boyd seems expensive. I would be shocked if he got 150 innings this year…
I consider him bullpen depth, another lefty to compete with Rob Zastryzny, Luke Little & Jordan Wicks. Cubs don't need a 3rd lefty in their rotation, after Shota Imanaga & Justin Steele.
@@johnbrennan4449 He isn't bullpen depth if they are paying him 14.5 mil a season.
@RyanPeters05 why do the Cubs need another lefty in their rotation? meanwhile, their bullpen could definitely use more lefty depth. baseball is a team game. players & pitchers need to focus on what is best for the team. they need to perform the job where they are needed. this is why starting pitcher Drew Smyly pitched out of the bullpen for the Cubs last season.
@@johnbrennan4449 14.5 mil a season is what a closer makes out of the bullpen. They are paying him like a starter. And Smyly was also paid like a starter. He was demoted to the bullpen because he was so bad in his last hand full of starts. If they just gave Boyd that much money to be a middle reliever, then we have a major issue with how this organization spends their money.
@ I don’t think having lefties as starting pitchers is a bad thing at all. Bullpen is different because there’s a 3 batter rule. Just having quality starting pitchers is the most important thing in the sport. It’s similar to having quality QB in football
If he works out, he will be traded at the deadline for prospects.
Great signing
😅😅 let me guess no trade clause
Outperforming Projections, Drink!
Actually this guy is pretty promising, just because he’s not a household name doesn’t mean anything in baseball.
Hoyer is the worst. This is now year 3 where they spend a ton of money on middle of the road players. You have a top 5 farm system, supposedly. Go after the top of the market and let the young guys fill in the rest of the roster. These 240 million dollar payrolls of average don’t work. It leads to 83 wins. The experiment is over. Go get some damn players.
This is exhibit A that Jed's real plan is for the impact prospects i.e. Shaw, Cassie, Horton and Ballesteros to come up and produce before trading or signing someone that puts them over the top which is the model of the 2016 team.
This is just reallocating Smyley money plus 10 million. This is Cubs playing broke hoping to get 180 innings out of a guy who is more likely to pitch 100 a year. We will see but seems like a typical Jed and Ricketts signing.
Overpaying for mediocre AGAIN.
Thanks wasn't familiar with him
I like the signing. It’s a 2 yr contract. He can bring some veteran experience and be a mentor to the young pitchers
I thought he was one of the best pitchers during the playoffs for Cleveland
Harold Reynolds and matt vasgergian were acting like Matthew Boyd is a world beater
LOL! So, let's focus on the last 39 innings he's pitched that were good, and ignore the previous 880 innings where he was terrible? Sorry, but yours is one of the worst takes imaginable. Signing this guy is like drawing to a 2-outer inside straight for $30,000,000.
Good God what a horrible organization man
Bellinger is much more likely to have a big year than this mediocre pitcher
It's just another yawn choice by Jed Hoyer. If a real proven star is available, Jed passes. But if there's an older injury-proven, reclamation project, Jed jumps for joy. Ridiculous! So much for "intelligent spending", which is just a euphemism for cheap. I'm sick of Jed. OR is it Ricketts? Too bad we can't fire the owner! Yuck...yuck...yuck!!!
CUBS dont have a chance at sasaki, to cheap
Not a significant signing no matter what
Sam, love the show. But you seem to have been brainwashed over time by this clubs approach and are too encapsulated in wishful thinking to accept this deal. And I don't mean that to insult you by any means. This is not a more things to come signing. This is a telling you exactly where the off-season is headed kind of signing. Unacceptable from one of the richest franchises in all of baseball. But as long as people continue to show up and sell out home games, nothing will change. Sucks.
Everybody do yourself a favor quit following the Cubs
They want 2026 be the go all in year! There will be 120m of salaries coming off the books. And only around 80m committed. With around 180m to use under the tax. If the prospects pan out as advertised, Cubs will have a decade of good years coming. If they add to their roster for the next two years, Cubs can be good for 15 years starting next season, but don’t bash them if they did not go all in the next two years or complaining they did not push to win WS the next two years. If we do something that jeopardizes the future, we deserve to be continue called lovable losers. Only true Cubs fans care about Cubs as a whole! All those analyst like Passan, Rothenthal, they are not Cubs fans, they say things to create short term buzz. True Cubs fans care about the team’s long term future, not just winning right now! If Jed does not make the Cubs good next season, he will be out as GM. But not that he did a terrible job, he laid foundation to the next success period, just he has to take Cubs to the next level. And I would be also very nervous about next GM, since you could hire a worse one and ruin the org. But let him go is also not a wrong decision if he can’t get Cubs into playoff next season.
They are a big market team and told us this wasn't a rebuild. It shouldn't take them 6 or 7 years to build a good team. They can blow everyone out of the water with their spending within their division and should be winning it almost every year because of that. Waiting for prospects to turn into super stars is a giant risk that a big market team should not be taking. Go out and sign one and then if one of those prospects turns into something great! But don't rely on that.
Meh, they were supposed to be good for a decade last time, we got 5 or 6. Cut all your expectations in half. Addison Russell type shit always ruins projections.
Sasaki is likely going to sign with Padres or Yankees.Cubs are not going to take the plunge and try to get in playoff range.They will also trade Bellinger for a bag of chips.I've seen this before.
If they do sign roki then this is a good signing
True@@SangreEsRaro
How underwhelming
Jed Hoyer is the worst
I've seen enough of Assad to know that he isn't a viable starter. Barely 5 innings per start just doesn't get the job done, unless they do that "bullpen game" crap once every 5 games that's all the rage now and I despise that. Boyd should be an upgrade over Assad and now Assad can be a long reliever and spot starter maybe to give guys extra rest, which is what he should have been. But this acquisition doesn't really move the needle with me. They need to get Sasaki. Then I'll be excited.
He's got 5 pitches he can throw in any count, has one of the best sinkers in the league and is young. He's extremely valuable.
@@tomrockhill8634 , he'd probably be most valuable being the first guy out of the bullpen in middle relief when the starter has to throw way too many pitches to get through the first 4 innings. He can come in and give 2 or 3 innings and keep the game close, and he'd probably only need 2 days of rest between appearances so he can be used a lot more often. The Cubs had Smyly and Wesneski in that role last year, and they weren't great. I think he will be great in that role. It seems to fit his psychological makeup better.
Well Boyd averaged a little less then 5 innings per start. So Assad is a bit better. This is a garbage signing for the amount they will pay him.
@@JayRod.316 , I'm asuming that was because he was coming back from serious injury and that when healthy, he'll be closer to 6 innings per start. But yeah, this is yet another "get better on the margins" move that adds 1 win at best. Cubs need to make a big splash.
Cubs are cheap and not getting any better
After watching some video, he looks nastier then Smyly👍
crap move
Yay random white guy hype.
Look's like there's no team option on this deal either. That is high octane risk-taking (from a small-market team perspective at least).
This cannot be the marquee move for a guy that wants to remain in the Cubs front office, the next moves + whatever happens with Bellinger will be Spanky's last stand.
Next year cubs team is doomed i have no faith in sucky hoyer not happy with any sports teams in chicago.
Guys, the cubs are gearing up to compete in 10 years