People can’t talk about Deegan without saying he’s worse than Jett. Whether that be true or not, that’s a hell of a standard to be held to and speaks for itself on how good he is. If you need to compare him to the best to try to discredit his talent, then he is one of the best.
I don't think you can even compare Deegan with Jett. They just have such different riding styles. Jett's riding style is going to be extremely hard to beat. Even Hunter will struggle with it. Smokin Joe is the only person I think that has a similar riding style to Jett. I can't wait for him to step up to the 450 class.
The only way to actually compare them is to look at the rookie seasons, not from this season now. If you do that, then Haiden is better than Jett going off of results. Done better in Sx and already has more podiums and better results in 4 outdoor rounds. Just stupid to say Jett is better right now, thats obvious. But given the way everyone in the sport is talking about Haiden, he's a big deal and the next big thing coming through after Jett no doubt about it. Gone from rookie to pretty much the top Star Yamaha rider in a few moths
Eli Tomac's dad is World Famous Millionaire retired MTN BIKE RACER John Tomac, an animal I raced against in late 80s...Nothing handed to Eli or Haiden....All genetics and skill/drive.
Definitly find it hard to believe it's genetics. throw any one with a competitive drive on a bike from the time they can walk and you'll have a champion. A risk adverse parent would never put their child on a dirt bike. Hard work and time invested over genetics
@@brockherman4499false. The odds of raising a kid like haiden is very minimal. You could line 100 kids up from birth and you’d still never produce the results haiden has. Example look at daxton bennick.
I was skeptical of Deegan at first but after supercross I have nothing but respect watching him ride is a breath of fresh air and I'm going to Red bud this weekend to watch Deegan rip the greatest track in America 🤘 🇺🇲
So excited to see Haidens progression! I just hope he doesn’t burn out super young , he can be one of the greatest to ever do it & I’m super grateful that we get to be along for the ride
Deegan is a phenominal rider no doubt. I don't know if he's as good as Jett. He's young but he's only 2 years younger than Jett and Jett has 4 championships won first 8 motos outdoors on 450.
Deegan has been more impressive in his rookie season than Jett was but Jett also jumped from ammy and pro more than Deegan. I think Jett is going to be the next GOAT, I don't quite see that same trajectory in Deegan yet. It's bonkers to even have that conversation right now given the fact they're both so young and this sport is so unpredictable. Should make for a good decade of racing.
Haiden is on nearly the exact same path, just 6 months behind because Jett’s birthday is in summer. Jett’s MX season results are: Age 16: 27th, only did 3 races 16-17: 4th 17-18: 1st 18-19: 1st Haiden so far: 16: 34th, only 2 races 17: 2nd currently Same trajectory, except he’s actually ahead of Jett’s curve in SX.
Yeah but saying he’s not Jett ain’t a dig at all. Jett turns 20 in a month. He’s been pro since 2020. That’s 20-21-22 pro years before Deegan went pro. Technically he’s 3 years experience ahead of Deegs even though Jett is crazy young. Back to my point, lol, not being Jett Lawrence is far from a dig. Jett’s a freak of nature. 100% all timer & might break every record. I don’t say that lightly. I truly believe he’s 1 of a kind. But I do think Deegan has the mindset, grit, & determination to atleast take the fight to him. A little bit like Webb did to Roczen for example. (Although Kenny had a career ending injury and somehow came back.) Kenny was the perfect talent and Webb, although less hype than Deegan, both have the same mindset. And I think Deegan could steal a 450 title from Jett head to head. Not by winning 8-10 races like Jett’s about to do. But win 3-4 races a year and just get on the box every weekend. Now if both (God willing) stay healthy and lean into a rivalry. Who knows it’s Deegans first year and he’s been insanely consistent with flashes of the speed and no fading so he could for sure get close to that elite Jett speed. And if that happens the both of them could take this sport from selling out 50k baseball stadiums to selling out 100k NFL stadiums like Dallas. And from being on peacock to being on prime time NBC for millions to watch. That’s my dream. Hope it happens. There’s a lot of great talent out there, but it is exciting as fuck to think about the possibilities. 🙏🏻🫡
People who have never raced have no clue how difficult this is even as a regional rider . let alone at this professional level. These are super athletes, almost indescribable how physical this is. Daddy can buy you all the best equipment and take you to all the races, but the bike doesn't ride for you.
I would go out on a limb and say coming straight off the couch with nothing but a cold coke and a bag of chips it would be hard to finish a 15 minute moto in a D class race in the top 10. The only possible would be if there is only 10 riders on the gate now that said I also know talent can take you forward I'm saying first try no training just jump in a race
Crazy to think no one will ever beat Robbie Reynards record of youngest AMA motocross lites class winner. It was only days after his 16th birthday. Shame he broke his wrist so early in his career and was never quite the same. One of the few men on earth to leave RC in the dust.
If you're a fan of motocross / supercross then you should appreciate all the riders. With that being said you don't have to like everyone the same. Deegan is riding great and I'm happy to see him do well but I'm also rooting for all those riders that don't get the media they deserve when they have a phenomenal ride the same day.
He may have had an advantage as far as exposure, connections in the industry, and maybe even equipment as an amateur, but the reality is, when you are pro, reality hits and if he were a fraud, it would be exposed. Hard to argue results. And I don’t even follow the whole deegan social media thing.
No doubt the kid can ride and works hard, but let’s be real motocross/supercross is a sport for rich people. Your average kids can’t buy a $10,000 bike, a trailer and a truck even with the help of their parents. Then to be able to ride all the time to get good enough to make it you need to have a track at home and be brought to all the races and maintain the bike. I once had all these things as a kid and then my family lost them in the financial crisis when I was 14, not a chance at getting good once I had no money for a bike, and no more land to ride on. You have to be extremely blessed financially to make it this sport. The average kid is lucky to get a beater bike to rip on the track every once in a while.
Jett and hunter grew up the exact opposite you either have the drive and heart or you don't, he still has a lot to learn if you watch some of the technical things hunter does on his bike it will really show you he still away to go but for his age he has accomplished a lot.
You don’t need to go to all of the races…. You need to go to the BIG races with the best competition. When you’re not racing, you need to be training on the track doing motos and different sections and also in the gym working in Strength and cardio, running, biking, etc. those are things you can do free. You also don’t need a track at your house, you just need a local track near you that you can go to and practice every week, multiple times a week. Most local tracks have practice throughout the week and summer time it doesn’t get dark until 9 or so. Plenty of time to get school work done and then go ride. Almost every kid outside of Haiden that has ever been fast didn’t have what Haiden has, yet they still managed to put the work in and get to where they needed to be. It’s how much are you willing to put in and what are you willing to risk and how bad do you want it? Money is meaningless and you don’t need $10,000 to buy a bike, you can finance a bike and it’s not very much per month and most manufacturers have sales and deals going on where you can get full pipes and different aftermarket parts when you purchase a bike. Money doesn’t make you fast or slow, what you are willing to put in on and off the track does.
Explain Chad Reed. A 15 year old that went to the EU with his 15 year old girl friend. You think they were loaded with cash? The Lawrence's had to sell everything they owned. They were flat broke for a lot of their time in the EU. But, made it happen. Money isn't the be all to end all. Ever heard the expression, "Where there is will. There is always away" ? It's true. If you want something bad enough, you have to make it happen. If it doesn't happen, that's because you didn't want it bad enough.
Haiden is unbelievable and on his way to a career that'll land him amongst names like Carmichael, Stewart, Stanton, Bailey, Hannah... Having a Dad that loved MX and said his SON WOULD NOT RACE MOTORCYCLES for him to be as dedicated and have so much fun doing what he absolutely loves is amazing. He's SUPER TALENTED AND DEDICATED TO HIS LOVE AND PASSION OF RIDING N RACING MOTOCROSS. DANGER BOY IS A DANGEROUS FORCE TO BE RECKONED WITH EACH AND EVERY WEEK AS HE SHOWS IMPROVEMENT AND WORKING ON HIS FIRST OVERALL WIN IN HIS ROOKIE SEASON!!!
First off....Townley is the shit! Bro...all of 2007 was amazing to watch-freaking impressive ...I go back n watch that shit often🙏 About deegan...enjoy the ride people...we got 8-12 more years to watch something phenomenal barring major hurdles along the way! Looking forward to deegan/Lawrence’s while they’re all in the early and mid 20’s...going to be epic!!
I never had the money or the bikes to even get close. I had a Z50 until i was 15 when i got a 10 year old CR80 and then finally managed to buy myself a kx125 when i was 18 which was 8 years old at the time. Haiden has definitely put the effort in and it shows, but having that money, bikes and trainers goes a long way.
It’s all about how much you’re willing to risk to get where you want to be. My parents didn’t have much money, but made sure I had brand new bikes and top of the line parts and missed bills to make sure I had those things and I won 15 amateur championships. Having money to buy bikes and trainers and parts means nothing in this sport, it’s about how much work you are willing to put in. Haiden could have took your 10 year old cr80 and still win every Loretta’s national amateur title that he did because he outworked everyone on and off the track.
@@davidbiagi2932 You literally just said your parents made sure you had the bikes and parts. I didn't have that, I had a z50 to ride until i was 15. Which doesn't get you too far in terms of learning. That CR80 needed so much work. I was so far behind by the time i could start, i had to focus on other things. Money gets you started, his family never would have had to worry about anything, whereas mine couldn't support me. Just my dad was brining in money and he worked his ass off. Being able to get to a track wasn't easy and then putting membership fees on top of everything. Having 4 siblings as well, my parents could not sacrifice everything to support racing. I ended up saving money and buying a new FE450 and did enduro when i could. I taught myself to ride and was good at enduro but you can't tell me money doesn't help when i could barely show up for a race
@@davidbiagi2932 Like I said Deegan is good. Of course he would do well on the CR80 since he had been racing all his life while I had just started. He definitely would not have won on that bike though, trust me on that. It was practically a farm bike. If i had the support i could've given it a go. He has the best support and it really does go along way. All he has to worry about is performing.
You must have missed the part where my dad didn’t pay bills some months just so I could have what I had and get to the races. Some are willing to sacrifice it for their kids and some aren’t. Personally, I loved the time I got to spend with my dad traveling every weekend across the country, but knowing the financial strain it put on him when I got older, I wish he hadn’t, but he knew I loved it and that’s all he cared about. As far as my point about Haiden, the money only buys you the nice things but having nice things doesn’t mean you’ll be fast. If you rode, you know how damn hard it is for ANYONE. How much money they have is irrelevant when it comes to speed and talent. You have to be willing to put in the hard ass work to be at that top level like he is. Sure, ofcourse he has a better life than most, but anyone who knows his dad and how he came up knows that he worked his ass off and he wouldn’t just hand his kids stuff and make it easy. He made them work hard. Hell, they would rarely even buy Haiden a nice pair of shoes or phone. Dude had a damn flip phone up until like 2 years ago. It’s just irritating to hear people saying Haiden or any other kids with rich families only got to where they are in this sport bc of money. Now if he was riding around in 15-20th place and was like a 5-7th place finisher throughout his amateur career and still had the star yamaha ride then yeah, I’d say 100% it was bc of his dads $$ and all that. But he worked his ass off in the sport to get those championships and to get that factory ride and to get these podiums and wins his first pro season. (Sorry for the long comment)
And it isn’t just about performing. He has to work out off the track, build muscle but not too much, get his endurance up for 30+ minute motos, be strong enough to handle that bike at that level for that whole 30 mins etc. Just because your outside life is “easy” doesn’t mean that you will be good at something, especially the top guy at your level. Anyone who wants to be at this level, rich or poor, has to be willing to sacrifice everything to get there.. it’s not a normal life for anyone and it’s not easy for anyone.
Best interview just happened with Christian Craig and danger boy. I've watched the channel for year's butt Christian gets the best out of hayden. Hayden looks up to Christian as the best 250 rider and they vibe together. Only better things to come once danger boy grows up and adopts to jetts riding style. I'm excited for the next 5 to 10 years... coming from a Aussie. Can't wait for this jett hunter and danger evolution to progress.... peace out kick start Kenny..... living the factory dream 😂
Funny you should say that. For anyone to beat Jett, they'll have to adopt his riding style. And Jett's riding style is based a lot on trust. Trust isn't easy to obtain. It took me a long time to fully trust my tires. They had to do the same when JS#7 came along.
Haiden has not been given nothing to him I’ve watched him for years I’ve watched him grow as a man and he works hard and he is very fast let’s go deegans
I am definitely not a Haiden hater, and I in no way think that the only way he is where he is at, is because he was given everything. But…….., I believe that having the backing and access to the very best of everything, being that equipment, training, and the in depth knowledge that Brian has of the industry, gives Haiden the best chance of success. Not everyone gets that, and even those that do, don’t always make it. So huge respect to the Deegans on what they have done and continue to achieve, because as has been said, you still have to put in the work to be one of the greats. It does irk me a little sometimes though, when you listen to Jett talking about how poor they were, and i am sure they struggled, but they were only the poorest of the rich in the mx pits. The real poor kids just wished their parents had enough money to buy them a bike to ride, let alone take them all over the country/world racing. Nothing but love here for both the Deegans and Lawrence’s, but both families are privileged to have had the opportunity to allow their children to race in the first place. I wish I had had parents like Brian and Dazzer, I would have still been shit, but I would have had a blast 😀👍😜
The point of he has everything handed to him is destroyed by his own brother Hudson. Good kid but has the same opportunities offered to him that was offered to Haiden but he doesn’t get the same results.
Playing devils advocate: Hayden was the first son and had more focus and attention at an early age. By the time he was a moto-household name Hudson came alone and became an afterthought in regards to moto.
Ehhh not really, Hudson just didn’t have that drive like Haiden does. It reminds me of James and Malcolm. Malcolm sucked when he was on 50s and 60s and didn’t care about racing like James did until he got older and then the switch turned on. He wasn’t ever at James level, but he became fast as hell and won pro titles.
Deegan has put in the work but the money and connections are an undeniable edge on the rest , How can a mom and pop working a 9-5 afford all the bikes, gear, trainers, homeschool and take all the time off to travel and race even if their kid has all the natural talent in the world its a tough battle against the kid who has it all at their fingertips
I think you underestimate just how rich All of the guys at the top racing are in amateurs. They all have every top part you can get, they have sponsors, they have everything Haiden has except the RUclips fame… sorry, but this sport has nothing to do with how much money you have except for connections. Having money doesn’t make you fast. Even having trainers doesn’t make you fast, but all of these kids have trainers. Plenty of people working a 9-5 make a lot of money, so don’t use that excuse.
The Lawrence's had to sell everything they owned, and were flat broke for most of their time in Europe. Just sayin. Chad Reed had no money. He at 15, with his 15 year old GF, left for the EU, took on the world, and won. That's sheer guts, self belief, and determination. What were you doing at 15? I went back packing around Oz, and thought that was pretty staunch for a 15 yr old lol. If you don't have belief in yourself, don't expect other people to believe in you.
Yes Haiden Deegan was more fortunate being able to have bikes and tracks at home growing up. The difference is that Haiden pushed himself to get better and good enough to win. His younger brother has that same chance. So far he dosen't seem to want or need to go that route. Haiden could have felt that way too and we wouldn't be talking about this. Being a pro rider is what separates good and not good riders no matter how you got there.
The funniest thing about all this is everyone screams about the haters, except the Deegan"s. They don't give two shits. Hailey is catching all kinds of shit right now too. They could care less. And good on them.
Ricky Carmichael was always given the best of the best of everything also, People used to complain about that way back in the 1990's hen he was Coming up, Totally reminds me of Haiden Deegan, His aggressive attitude and riding Style as well.
Pretty sure I rember him saying his parents sold everything and traveled across the country in a rv. Secondly do you know how expensive racing is! All the top racers at lorreta lyns are extremely wealthy. With trainers since they started. The only thing special about deegan other than his skill. Is his dad Made him a influencer and allowed you to view the journey. His wealth and connection really are not that abnormal. It's a wealthy sport.
I grew up in the generation where people could come in and be competitive right away, i guess this is why i have been thinking these guys have been coming in and are kinda slow.
I hate that people say hardens privileges she’s and given everything cuz the reality is we all ride dirtbikes because our families for the most part could afford for us to ride dirtbikes. WE ARE ALL PRIVILIDGED. Just because deegan was a little more privilidged doesn’t mean we all aren’t. Keep telling yourself the only reason he’s where he is and your not is because of his dad and not because he put in the work and you didn’t
You can give a young man everything in the world. But when he throws his leg over that bike and lines up at that gate, nobody can do that for him. Nobody can ride that bike for him.
Yes deegs has worked harder than a lot of folks and has the drive BUTTTTTTTT you can’t say he wasn’t handed this stuff? Who else has an entire SX and MX facility growing up with rich parents that are super plugged into the industry?
It’s kind of weird to me how much hate the deegan family gets, Brian only has money because of dirt bikes in the first place. He didn’t come from money. Brian has put so much energy and life into this sport and he made it happen not only for him but for his family. Brian having money is not everything. Haiden works his ass off and has already accomplished stuff 99% of people can’t do even IF they we’re given the money that the deegans have. Money doesn’t equal work ethic, confidence, skill. That’s all something money can’t buy. Money can buy dirt bikes and cover travel and the best trainers but at the end of the day Haiden is where he is at because of the work he has put in and because he has something that most people don’t have when it comes to riding a dirtbike.
I dont know why it matters to gypsy what people think people are gonna think what they want to regardless it makes me wonder about people when it bugs them so bad about what other people do it bugs me that people steal shit and use drugs and drink and drive but theres nothing im gonna say thats gonna change people's minds i think the best thing people can do is let it go you cant control what people think
Not really. Look at MX/Nations and look at lap times this year from Jett vs Sexton/Tomas etc at the same tracks last year. It would have definitely made it more interesting and a lot harder and I don’t think Jett would be having a perfect season at this point but… It wouldn’t have changed too much.
HAIDEN DEEGAN IS A FREAKING BOSSSSS!!!!!! IDC, WHAT ANYBODY NEGATIVE HAS TO SAY. THAT KID/YOUNG ADULT IS DESTROYING RIDERS THAT HAVE BEEN RACING IN THAT 250 CLASS FOR YEARS. HE'S A LEGIT BOSSSS!!!! I THINK HE IS GOING TO BE THE TOP DAWG IN THST 250 CLASS WITHIN 2 YEARS TOP, AND TBH I CAN NOT WAIT FOR NEXT SEASON. HE'S JUST GOING TO KEEP GETTING BETTER AND BETTER. THAT DUDE KNOWS HIW TO ADAPT TO HIS SURROUNDINGS AND THAT IS NOT SOMETHING MOST PEOPLE ON THIS PLANET ARE GOOD AT. HUNTER LAWRENCE IS GOING TO HAVE SOME SERIOUS COMPETITION NEXT YEAR AND SO FORTH UNTIL HE BUMPS UP TO 450 AND THEN NOBODY IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO DEFEAT HIM UNLESS HE CRASHES WHICH I PRAY HE NEVER EXPERIENCES A GNARLY WRECK
Exactly who talks about Eli having everything John Tomac is a world champion mountain bike rider millionaire owes southern Colorado all the riders have the same opportunity it’s up to the rider Haiden Deegan is real and raw and will be a champion
Nice to hear a true Kiwi talking Moto. Awesome video brother. As far as Deegan goes, there are so many great athletes that grew up in privileged homes and had a father who helped them get to a certain level it's ridiculous,. Ken Griffey Jr, Dale Earnhardt Jr. Steph Curry. All those guys made it cause they are freaking phenomenal at what they do and they worked their asses off. For those haters out there, watch what happens with LeBron's kids over the next couple of years. All the advantages in the world. Best high school teams, great coaches and your pops is the KING. And there is no guarantee whatsoever that any of them are going to make it in the league. It's not about having dad open a door for you. It's about staying on the other side of it once you're through. Deegan has so much passion and such a work ethic he would have made it if RuPaul was his dad. Don't hate. Appreciate.
Deegan is good but he’s not as good as everyone says he is. He’s not a top 5 rider. He just gets lucky a lot of times bc other riders can’t keep the bike up
Ummm what?? He led start to finish with Justin cooper and Hunter both starting top 5 and they couldn’t catch him. He’s also running the fastest laptimes or equal to them every race outside of thunder valley. You haters will say anything to try and discredit what he’s doing and how good he is. The Mfer got 2nd his rookie sx season in points and is 2nd overall outdoors and has podiumed 3/4 races. He came from dead last to 6th last wkd in the second moto matching the leaders pace while coming through traffic. You haters are so fucking stupid and so Fuckin jealous of this kid it’s ridiculous. How tf can you say he’s not a top 5 rider when his laptimes every race are either at the top or top 3 at worst? A rider going down one lap doesn’t make his lap times faster.. on top of that, he’s the most fit rider out there and while everyone else is getting slower late in the races, that’s when he’s running his fastest laps and making passes. You know nothing about this sport so just shut the fuck up and enjoy getting to watch a generational talent and future 250 and 450 champ. Stop with the jealousy and the hate, you just look so damn dumb. If he wasn’t top 5 he wouldn’t be second in points and have a podium in 3/4 races and wouldn’t be the fastest or top 3 fastest on the track every wkd. He would have one good race every few races, but he is top 3 every wkd. See how dumb that makes you look?
Just by your name I can tell you’re probably a 13-14 year old kid. I’m guessing your family is poor so you’re just jealous that Haiden has a rich dad and you don’t. You’re also slow if you’ve ever even rode a dirtbike, so his insane speed also makes you jealous. If you want to get better, try quitting with the hate of someone you don’t know and start putting in the hard work on and off the track like Haiden did/does. Every current and former pro has said how good the kid is, yet here’s some nobody in the comments acting like you know better than the guys who are considered the GOATs of the sport. Name 5 riders faster and better than Haiden on 250s, I’ll wait… there’s only 2 you can say and that’s Hunter and jcoop. The rest haven’t managed to come close to him outside of maybe 1-2 motos.
This is the most mentally ill comment possible. He was a constant podium contender in supercross and finished the season in 2nd. Right now he's in constant winning contention outdoors and again is sitting in 2nd in points.
Take Jett out of the equation and Hunter is the the generational talent/phenomenon. Take Hunter out of the equation and Deegan is a rookie supercross champion and leading the 250 outdoors.
@@doncurry7669 indeed. But Jetts 250 career started at 14 years old. Haidens was at 16. So there's a big difference in experience on a big bike prior to going pro. Yet Jett still struggled his rookie season. Haiden hasn't
@@Carpfishing4400 like I said there both great riders I wouldn’t say Jet struggled, I say he road over his head at times . A 16 year old that wanted to win . The O show has got Jet focus and it shows on how smart he’s riding . What really sucks is we all were robed with Tomac and Sexton out might have been one of the best outdoors 450 seasons ever!!!
Jett and Hunter are very equal in speed. They go back and forth. And Haiden has straight up beat hunter in a moto!!! I think when the danger hits the 450 class he is the only one giving Jett a run for his money.
People can’t talk about Deegan without saying he’s worse than Jett. Whether that be true or not, that’s a hell of a standard to be held to and speaks for itself on how good he is. If you need to compare him to the best to try to discredit his talent, then he is one of the best.
Well said.
I don't think you can even compare Deegan with Jett. They just have such different riding styles.
Jett's riding style is going to be extremely hard to beat. Even Hunter will struggle with it.
Smokin Joe is the only person I think that has a similar riding style to Jett. I can't wait for him to step up to the 450 class.
The only way to actually compare them is to look at the rookie seasons, not from this season now. If you do that, then Haiden is better than Jett going off of results. Done better in Sx and already has more podiums and better results in 4 outdoor rounds. Just stupid to say Jett is better right now, thats obvious. But given the way everyone in the sport is talking about Haiden, he's a big deal and the next big thing coming through after Jett no doubt about it. Gone from rookie to pretty much the top Star Yamaha rider in a few moths
@@Carpfishing4400 RC had better results than JS#7, but JS#7 was the better rider.
@@dropbear9526 how do you work that one out 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Stewart crashed his brains out more often than not. Carmichael is known as the GOAT. Says it all
The fire Hayden has will always be there, he loves it deeply ! I hope he doesn't get hurt, as I do for all the riders.
Eli Tomac's dad is World Famous Millionaire retired MTN BIKE RACER John Tomac, an animal I raced against in late 80s...Nothing handed to Eli or Haiden....All genetics and skill/drive.
Definitly find it hard to believe it's genetics. throw any one with a competitive drive on a bike from the time they can walk and you'll have a champion. A risk adverse parent would never put their child on a dirt bike. Hard work and time invested over genetics
@@brockherman4499 You made a great argument. But, having good genetics isn't gonna hurt either.
@@brockherman4499false. The odds of raising a kid like haiden is very minimal. You could line 100 kids up from birth and you’d still never produce the results haiden has. Example look at daxton bennick.
I was skeptical of Deegan at first but after supercross I have nothing but respect watching him ride is a breath of fresh air and I'm going to Red bud this weekend to watch Deegan rip the greatest track in America 🤘 🇺🇲
Good weekend 🎉
@@TracklifeTvMX Yes it was 🇺🇲😁
So excited to see Haidens progression! I just hope he doesn’t burn out super young , he can be one of the greatest to ever do it & I’m super grateful that we get to be along for the ride
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No 450 titles for Haiden or anybody else in 10 years because of Jett i'm afraid.
He will win some 250 titles but then no more.
@@patrikkagstrom2393he wont even win a 250 title
@@RogerT-kt3zdhe has already beaten everyone but Hunter.
@@RogerT-kt3zdI'm positive he will win 250 outdoors next season. Most of the other fast guys will be moving to 450.
Deegan is a phenominal rider no doubt. I don't know if he's as good as Jett. He's young but he's only 2 years younger than Jett and Jett has 4 championships won first 8 motos outdoors on 450.
Deegan has been more impressive in his rookie season than Jett was but Jett also jumped from ammy and pro more than Deegan. I think Jett is going to be the next GOAT, I don't quite see that same trajectory in Deegan yet. It's bonkers to even have that conversation right now given the fact they're both so young and this sport is so unpredictable. Should make for a good decade of racing.
Haiden is on nearly the exact same path, just 6 months behind because Jett’s birthday is in summer. Jett’s MX season results are:
Age 16: 27th, only did 3 races
16-17: 4th
17-18: 1st
18-19: 1st
Haiden so far:
16: 34th, only 2 races
17: 2nd currently
Same trajectory, except he’s actually ahead of Jett’s curve in SX.
@@micahhoufek618 interesting… should be some fun racing coming up
Yeah but saying he’s not Jett ain’t a dig at all. Jett turns 20 in a month. He’s been pro since 2020. That’s 20-21-22 pro years before Deegan went pro. Technically he’s 3 years experience ahead of Deegs even though Jett is crazy young. Back to my point, lol, not being Jett Lawrence is far from a dig. Jett’s a freak of nature. 100% all timer & might break every record. I don’t say that lightly. I truly believe he’s 1 of a kind. But I do think Deegan has the mindset, grit, & determination to atleast take the fight to him. A little bit like Webb did to Roczen for example. (Although Kenny had a career ending injury and somehow came back.) Kenny was the perfect talent and Webb, although less hype than Deegan, both have the same mindset. And I think Deegan could steal a 450 title from Jett head to head. Not by winning 8-10 races like Jett’s about to do. But win 3-4 races a year and just get on the box every weekend.
Now if both (God willing) stay healthy and lean into a rivalry. Who knows it’s Deegans first year and he’s been insanely consistent with flashes of the speed and no fading so he could for sure get close to that elite Jett speed. And if that happens the both of them could take this sport from selling out 50k baseball stadiums to selling out 100k NFL stadiums like Dallas. And from being on peacock to being on prime time NBC for millions to watch. That’s my dream. Hope it happens. There’s a lot of great talent out there, but it is exciting as fuck to think about the possibilities. 🙏🏻🫡
Feel like Jett is talented but Deegan is a charging.
BT101 there’s a class rider 2015 rocked up to MXDN in France with borrowed kit and bike with bits bolted on and showed the world how to ride!!
He still has gotta race that bike at an extremely high level. A bike can't win without the rider. Mad respect for this kid.
It's Good to see We have a Rider to represent 🇺🇲 With Deegan The competition Tough
People who have never raced have no clue how difficult this is even as a regional rider . let alone at this professional level. These are super athletes, almost indescribable how physical this is. Daddy can buy you all the best equipment and take you to all the races, but the bike doesn't ride for you.
I would go out on a limb and say coming straight off the couch with nothing but a cold coke and a bag of chips it would be hard to finish a 15 minute moto in a D class race in the top 10. The only possible would be if there is only 10 riders on the gate now that said I also know talent can take you forward I'm saying first try no training just jump in a race
You mentioned Steel City! That was my all time favorite track! I miss that place
Crazy to think no one will ever beat Robbie Reynards record of youngest AMA motocross lites class winner. It was only days after his 16th birthday. Shame he broke his wrist so early in his career and was never quite the same. One of the few men on earth to leave RC in the dust.
If you're a fan of motocross / supercross then you should appreciate all the riders. With that being said you don't have to like everyone the same. Deegan is riding great and I'm happy to see him do well but I'm also rooting for all those riders that don't get the media they deserve when they have a phenomenal ride the same day.
He may have had an advantage as far as exposure, connections in the industry, and maybe even equipment as an amateur, but the reality is, when you are pro, reality hits and if he were a fraud, it would be exposed. Hard to argue results. And I don’t even follow the whole deegan social media thing.
No doubt the kid can ride and works hard, but let’s be real motocross/supercross is a sport for rich people. Your average kids can’t buy a $10,000 bike, a trailer and a truck even with the help of their parents. Then to be able to ride all the time to get good enough to make it you need to have a track at home and be brought to all the races and maintain the bike. I once had all these things as a kid and then my family lost them in the financial crisis when I was 14, not a chance at getting good once I had no money for a bike, and no more land to ride on. You have to be extremely blessed financially to make it this sport. The average kid is lucky to get a beater bike to rip on the track every once in a while.
Jett and hunter grew up the exact opposite you either have the drive and heart or you don't, he still has a lot to learn if you watch some of the technical things hunter does on his bike it will really show you he still away to go but for his age he has accomplished a lot.
You don’t need to go to all of the races…. You need to go to the BIG races with the best competition. When you’re not racing, you need to be training on the track doing motos and different sections and also in the gym working in Strength and cardio, running, biking, etc. those are things you can do free. You also don’t need a track at your house, you just need a local track near you that you can go to and practice every week, multiple times a week. Most local tracks have practice throughout the week and summer time it doesn’t get dark until 9 or so. Plenty of time to get school work done and then go ride. Almost every kid outside of Haiden that has ever been fast didn’t have what Haiden has, yet they still managed to put the work in and get to where they needed to be. It’s how much are you willing to put in and what are you willing to risk and how bad do you want it? Money is meaningless and you don’t need $10,000 to buy a bike, you can finance a bike and it’s not very much per month and most manufacturers have sales and deals going on where you can get full pipes and different aftermarket parts when you purchase a bike. Money doesn’t make you fast or slow, what you are willing to put in on and off the track does.
Explain Chad Reed.
A 15 year old that went to the EU with his 15 year old girl friend. You think they were loaded with cash?
The Lawrence's had to sell everything they owned. They were flat broke for a lot of their time in the EU. But, made it happen.
Money isn't the be all to end all. Ever heard the expression, "Where there is will. There is always away" ? It's true.
If you want something bad enough, you have to make it happen. If it doesn't happen, that's because you didn't want it bad enough.
Haiden is unbelievable and on his way to a career that'll land him amongst names like Carmichael, Stewart, Stanton, Bailey, Hannah... Having a Dad that loved MX and said his SON WOULD NOT RACE MOTORCYCLES for him to be as dedicated and have so much fun doing what he absolutely loves is amazing. He's SUPER TALENTED AND DEDICATED TO HIS LOVE AND PASSION OF RIDING N RACING MOTOCROSS. DANGER BOY IS A DANGEROUS FORCE TO BE RECKONED WITH EACH AND EVERY WEEK AS HE SHOWS IMPROVEMENT AND WORKING ON HIS FIRST OVERALL WIN IN HIS ROOKIE SEASON!!!
First off....Townley is the shit! Bro...all of 2007 was amazing to watch-freaking impressive ...I go back n watch that shit often🙏
About deegan...enjoy the ride people...we got 8-12 more years to watch something phenomenal barring major hurdles along the way! Looking forward to deegan/Lawrence’s while they’re all in the early and mid 20’s...going to be epic!!
I never had the money or the bikes to even get close. I had a Z50 until i was 15 when i got a 10 year old CR80 and then finally managed to buy myself a kx125 when i was 18 which was 8 years old at the time.
Haiden has definitely put the effort in and it shows, but having that money, bikes and trainers goes a long way.
It’s all about how much you’re willing to risk to get where you want to be. My parents didn’t have much money, but made sure I had brand new bikes and top of the line parts and missed bills to make sure I had those things and I won 15 amateur championships. Having money to buy bikes and trainers and parts means nothing in this sport, it’s about how much work you are willing to put in. Haiden could have took your 10 year old cr80 and still win every Loretta’s national amateur title that he did because he outworked everyone on and off the track.
@@davidbiagi2932 You literally just said your parents made sure you had the bikes and parts. I didn't have that, I had a z50 to ride until i was 15. Which doesn't get you too far in terms of learning. That CR80 needed so much work. I was so far behind by the time i could start, i had to focus on other things. Money gets you started, his family never would have had to worry about anything, whereas mine couldn't support me. Just my dad was brining in money and he worked his ass off. Being able to get to a track wasn't easy and then putting membership fees on top of everything. Having 4 siblings as well, my parents could not sacrifice everything to support racing.
I ended up saving money and buying a new FE450 and did enduro when i could. I taught myself to ride and was good at enduro but you can't tell me money doesn't help when i could barely show up for a race
@@davidbiagi2932 Like I said Deegan is good. Of course he would do well on the CR80 since he had been racing all his life while I had just started. He definitely would not have won on that bike though, trust me on that. It was practically a farm bike.
If i had the support i could've given it a go. He has the best support and it really does go along way. All he has to worry about is performing.
You must have missed the part where my dad didn’t pay bills some months just so I could have what I had and get to the races. Some are willing to sacrifice it for their kids and some aren’t. Personally, I loved the time I got to spend with my dad traveling every weekend across the country, but knowing the financial strain it put on him when I got older, I wish he hadn’t, but he knew I loved it and that’s all he cared about. As far as my point about Haiden, the money only buys you the nice things but having nice things doesn’t mean you’ll be fast. If you rode, you know how damn hard it is for ANYONE. How much money they have is irrelevant when it comes to speed and talent. You have to be willing to put in the hard ass work to be at that top level like he is. Sure, ofcourse he has a better life than most, but anyone who knows his dad and how he came up knows that he worked his ass off and he wouldn’t just hand his kids stuff and make it easy. He made them work hard. Hell, they would rarely even buy Haiden a nice pair of shoes or phone. Dude had a damn flip phone up until like 2 years ago. It’s just irritating to hear people saying Haiden or any other kids with rich families only got to where they are in this sport bc of money. Now if he was riding around in 15-20th place and was like a 5-7th place finisher throughout his amateur career and still had the star yamaha ride then yeah, I’d say 100% it was bc of his dads $$ and all that. But he worked his ass off in the sport to get those championships and to get that factory ride and to get these podiums and wins his first pro season. (Sorry for the long comment)
And it isn’t just about performing. He has to work out off the track, build muscle but not too much, get his endurance up for 30+ minute motos, be strong enough to handle that bike at that level for that whole 30 mins etc. Just because your outside life is “easy” doesn’t mean that you will be good at something, especially the top guy at your level. Anyone who wants to be at this level, rich or poor, has to be willing to sacrifice everything to get there.. it’s not a normal life for anyone and it’s not easy for anyone.
Just 17 and he brings it !
Best interview just happened with Christian Craig and danger boy. I've watched the channel for year's butt Christian gets the best out of hayden. Hayden looks up to Christian as the best 250 rider and they vibe together. Only better things to come once danger boy grows up and adopts to jetts riding style. I'm excited for the next 5 to 10 years... coming from a Aussie. Can't wait for this jett hunter and danger evolution to progress.... peace out kick start Kenny..... living the factory dream 😂
Funny you should say that. For anyone to beat Jett, they'll have to adopt his riding style. And Jett's riding style is based a lot on trust. Trust isn't easy to obtain. It took me a long time to fully trust my tires.
They had to do the same when JS#7 came along.
He's fought that "you've got this so that must be easy" story even at Loretta's.
Nothing new....just free motivation...its the Deegan way
Haiden has not been given nothing to him I’ve watched him for years I’ve watched him grow as a man and he works hard and he is very fast let’s go deegans
Terrific video!!! Thank you
I am definitely not a Haiden hater, and I in no way think that the only way he is where he is at, is because he was given everything. But…….., I believe that having the backing and access to the very best of everything, being that equipment, training, and the in depth knowledge that Brian has of the industry, gives Haiden the best chance of success. Not everyone gets that, and even those that do, don’t always make it. So huge respect to the Deegans on what they have done and continue to achieve, because as has been said, you still have to put in the work to be one of the greats. It does irk me a little sometimes though, when you listen to Jett talking about how poor they were, and i am sure they struggled, but they were only the poorest of the rich in the mx pits. The real poor kids just wished their parents had enough money to buy them a bike to ride, let alone take them all over the country/world racing. Nothing but love here for both the Deegans and Lawrence’s, but both families are privileged to have had the opportunity to allow their children to race in the first place. I wish I had had parents like Brian and Dazzer, I would have still been shit, but I would have had a blast 😀👍😜
The point of he has everything handed to him is destroyed by his own brother Hudson. Good kid but has the same opportunities offered to him that was offered to Haiden but he doesn’t get the same results.
Playing devils advocate: Hayden was the first son and had more focus and attention at an early age. By the time he was a moto-household name Hudson came alone and became an afterthought in regards to moto.
@@HomemadeC4 I can agree but again same opportunities are given to Hudson but he doesn’t have Haidens work ethic.
@@MrMcGuck 100%
Huckson
Ehhh not really, Hudson just didn’t have that drive like Haiden does. It reminds me of James and Malcolm. Malcolm sucked when he was on 50s and 60s and didn’t care about racing like James did until he got older and then the switch turned on. He wasn’t ever at James level, but he became fast as hell and won pro titles.
I like Haiden because he’s a lad and can ride like a MF…
Deegan has put in the work but the money and connections are an undeniable edge on the rest , How can a mom and pop working a 9-5 afford all the bikes, gear, trainers, homeschool and take all the time off to travel and race even if their kid has all the natural talent in the world its a tough battle against the kid who has it all at their fingertips
Same as everyone else racing against him, who do you think they are.? Expensive sports call for people who can afford them.
I think you underestimate just how rich All of the guys at the top racing are in amateurs. They all have every top part you can get, they have sponsors, they have everything Haiden has except the RUclips fame… sorry, but this sport has nothing to do with how much money you have except for connections. Having money doesn’t make you fast. Even having trainers doesn’t make you fast, but all of these kids have trainers. Plenty of people working a 9-5 make a lot of money, so don’t use that excuse.
The Lawrence's had to sell everything they owned, and were flat broke for most of their time in Europe.
Just sayin.
Chad Reed had no money. He at 15, with his 15 year old GF, left for the EU, took on the world, and won. That's sheer guts, self belief, and determination. What were you doing at 15? I went back packing around Oz, and thought that was pretty staunch for a 15 yr old lol.
If you don't have belief in yourself, don't expect other people to believe in you.
@@davidbiagi2932 there ya go the rich folks have an edge
Yes Haiden Deegan was more fortunate being able to have bikes and tracks at home growing up. The difference is that Haiden pushed himself to get better and good enough to win. His younger brother has that same chance. So far he dosen't seem to want or need to go that route. Haiden could have felt that way too and we wouldn't be talking about this. Being a pro rider is what separates good and not good riders no matter how you got there.
You can't buy hard work and talent!!
You can buy talent, just not your own.
Yoooo, is there another BT one up? ❤
Haiden is the best 17 yr old motocross rider in the world!!!! FACTS!!!!!💪
Let’s talk about Dax now
The funniest thing about all this is everyone screams about the haters, except the Deegan"s. They don't give two shits. Hailey is catching all kinds of shit right now too. They could care less. And good on them.
Name one kid in this sport who hasn’t been handed everything. Having money in a prerequisite to racing dirtbikes
Ricky Carmichael was always given the best of the best of everything also, People used to complain about that way back in the 1990's hen he was Coming up, Totally reminds me of Haiden Deegan, His aggressive attitude and riding Style as well.
Pretty sure I rember him saying his parents sold everything and traveled across the country in a rv.
Secondly do you know how expensive racing is! All the top racers at lorreta lyns are extremely wealthy. With trainers since they started. The only thing special about deegan other than his skill. Is his dad Made him a influencer and allowed you to view the journey. His wealth and connection really are not that abnormal. It's a wealthy sport.
This is some classic gypsy clickbait with old content😂
I grew up in the generation where people could come in and be competitive right away, i guess this is why i have been thinking these guys have been coming in and are kinda slow.
I hate that people say hardens privileges she’s and given everything cuz the reality is we all ride dirtbikes because our families for the most part could afford for us to ride dirtbikes. WE ARE ALL PRIVILIDGED. Just because deegan was a little more privilidged doesn’t mean we all aren’t. Keep telling yourself the only reason he’s where he is and your not is because of his dad and not because he put in the work and you didn’t
You can give a young man everything in the world. But when he throws his leg over that bike and lines up at that gate, nobody can do that for him. Nobody can ride that bike for him.
Family drives Brian,, Haiden thrives from his family,,
Brian is sooo underrated as a parent. And as a person.
Yes deegs has worked harder than a lot of folks and has the drive BUTTTTTTTT you can’t say he wasn’t handed this stuff? Who else has an entire SX and MX facility growing up with rich parents that are super plugged into the industry?
Unpopular opinion: Deegan will not win a single championship as a pro.
It’s kind of weird to me how much hate the deegan family gets, Brian only has money because of dirt bikes in the first place. He didn’t come from money. Brian has put so much energy and life into this sport and he made it happen not only for him but for his family. Brian having money is not everything. Haiden works his ass off and has already accomplished stuff 99% of people can’t do even IF they we’re given the money that the deegans have. Money doesn’t equal work ethic, confidence, skill. That’s all something money can’t buy. Money can buy dirt bikes and cover travel and the best trainers but at the end of the day Haiden is where he is at because of the work he has put in and because he has something that most people don’t have when it comes to riding a dirtbike.
I dont know why it matters to gypsy what people think people are gonna think what they want to regardless it makes me wonder about people when it bugs them so bad about what other people do it bugs me that people steal shit and use drugs and drink and drive but theres nothing im gonna say thats gonna change people's minds i think the best thing people can do is let it go you cant control what people think
i’m a big jett fan but timing has had a lot to do with his 450 success this far. no one is riding
Not really.
Look at MX/Nations and look at lap times this year from Jett vs Sexton/Tomas etc at the same tracks last year. It would have definitely made it more interesting and a lot harder and I don’t think Jett would be having a perfect season at this point but… It wouldn’t have changed too much.
Those boys were ready to what!?
Fuck… they were ready to fuck lol
to Fu%&? 🤣😂🤣
HAIDEN DEEGAN IS A FREAKING BOSSSSS!!!!!! IDC, WHAT ANYBODY NEGATIVE HAS TO SAY. THAT KID/YOUNG ADULT IS DESTROYING RIDERS THAT HAVE BEEN RACING IN THAT 250 CLASS FOR YEARS. HE'S A LEGIT BOSSSS!!!! I THINK HE IS GOING TO BE THE TOP DAWG IN THST 250 CLASS WITHIN 2 YEARS TOP, AND TBH I CAN NOT WAIT FOR NEXT SEASON. HE'S JUST GOING TO KEEP GETTING BETTER AND BETTER. THAT DUDE KNOWS HIW TO ADAPT TO HIS SURROUNDINGS AND THAT IS NOT SOMETHING MOST PEOPLE ON THIS PLANET ARE GOOD AT. HUNTER LAWRENCE IS GOING TO HAVE SOME SERIOUS COMPETITION NEXT YEAR AND SO FORTH UNTIL HE BUMPS UP TO 450 AND THEN NOBODY IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO DEFEAT HIM UNLESS HE CRASHES WHICH I PRAY HE NEVER EXPERIENCES A GNARLY WRECK
Exactly who talks about Eli having everything
John Tomac is a world champion mountain bike rider millionaire owes southern Colorado all the riders have the same opportunity it’s up to the rider Haiden Deegan is real and raw and will be a champion
Nice to hear a true Kiwi talking Moto. Awesome video brother. As far as Deegan goes, there are so many great athletes that grew up in privileged homes and had a father who helped them get to a certain level it's ridiculous,. Ken Griffey Jr, Dale Earnhardt Jr. Steph Curry. All those guys made it cause they are freaking phenomenal at what they do and they worked their asses off. For those haters out there, watch what happens with LeBron's kids over the next couple of years. All the advantages in the world. Best high school teams, great coaches and your pops is the KING. And there is no guarantee whatsoever that any of them are going to make it in the league. It's not about having dad open a door for you. It's about staying on the other side of it once you're through. Deegan has so much passion and such a work ethic he would have made it if RuPaul was his dad. Don't hate. Appreciate.
Deegan is good but he’s not as good as everyone says he is. He’s not a top 5 rider. He just gets lucky a lot of times bc other riders can’t keep the bike up
This just might be the dumbest thing I’ve ever read.
Ummm what?? He led start to finish with Justin cooper and Hunter both starting top 5 and they couldn’t catch him. He’s also running the fastest laptimes or equal to them every race outside of thunder valley. You haters will say anything to try and discredit what he’s doing and how good he is. The Mfer got 2nd his rookie sx season in points and is 2nd overall outdoors and has podiumed 3/4 races. He came from dead last to 6th last wkd in the second moto matching the leaders pace while coming through traffic. You haters are so fucking stupid and so Fuckin jealous of this kid it’s ridiculous. How tf can you say he’s not a top 5 rider when his laptimes every race are either at the top or top 3 at worst? A rider going down one lap doesn’t make his lap times faster.. on top of that, he’s the most fit rider out there and while everyone else is getting slower late in the races, that’s when he’s running his fastest laps and making passes. You know nothing about this sport so just shut the fuck up and enjoy getting to watch a generational talent and future 250 and 450 champ. Stop with the jealousy and the hate, you just look so damn dumb. If he wasn’t top 5 he wouldn’t be second in points and have a podium in 3/4 races and wouldn’t be the fastest or top 3 fastest on the track every wkd. He would have one good race every few races, but he is top 3 every wkd. See how dumb that makes you look?
Just by your name I can tell you’re probably a 13-14 year old kid. I’m guessing your family is poor so you’re just jealous that Haiden has a rich dad and you don’t. You’re also slow if you’ve ever even rode a dirtbike, so his insane speed also makes you jealous. If you want to get better, try quitting with the hate of someone you don’t know and start putting in the hard work on and off the track like Haiden did/does. Every current and former pro has said how good the kid is, yet here’s some nobody in the comments acting like you know better than the guys who are considered the GOATs of the sport. Name 5 riders faster and better than Haiden on 250s, I’ll wait… there’s only 2 you can say and that’s Hunter and jcoop. The rest haven’t managed to come close to him outside of maybe 1-2 motos.
This is the most mentally ill comment possible. He was a constant podium contender in supercross and finished the season in 2nd. Right now he's in constant winning contention outdoors and again is sitting in 2nd in points.
Are you even serious?
What a ridiculous comment. I'd delete it. It's showing your level of knowledge.
Take Jett out of the equation and Hunter is the the generational talent/phenomenon. Take Hunter out of the equation and Deegan is a rookie supercross champion and leading the 250 outdoors.
Haiden is not young for our sport! Why people pretend most of our top pros did way better then Hansen? I guess its "you tubelikes"!
People want the family sell the house to fund the kids racing ( not so much Rich kids wins. just human nature cheering for the under dog
It took Jett 20 races to win a moto in motocross... it took Haiden *four*
Jett won a 65cc world championship.
@@dropbear9526ome on man. How's that relevant. We are talking pro racing on big bikes. Haiden never rode in Europe 🤣
Jet was 16 ! When he went pro Deegan 17 there both great riders!
@@doncurry7669 indeed. But Jetts 250 career started at 14 years old. Haidens was at 16. So there's a big difference in experience on a big bike prior to going pro. Yet Jett still struggled his rookie season. Haiden hasn't
@@Carpfishing4400 like I said there both great riders I wouldn’t say Jet struggled, I say he road over his head at times . A 16 year old that wanted to win . The O show has got Jet focus and it shows on how smart he’s riding . What really sucks is we all were robed with Tomac and Sexton out might have been one of the best outdoors 450 seasons ever!!!
Jett and Hunter are very equal in speed. They go back and forth. And Haiden has straight up beat hunter in a moto!!! I think when the danger hits the 450 class he is the only one giving Jett a run for his money.