NTSB Media Brief - Alaska Airlines Flight 1282 (Jan 7) livestream
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- Опубликовано: 6 янв 2024
- January 7, 2024: NTSB Chair Jennifer Homendy briefs the media in Portland, Oregon, on the NTSB investigation involving Alaska Airlines Flight 1282 on a Boeing 737-9 MAX.
Ms. Homendy is the type of civil servant that I want my tax dollars going to. She is to the point and just the facts. Thank you NTSB for this very credible briefing.
The NTSB is one of the most transparent and ethical government agencies around. Its entire mission is safety.
@@ninedaysjane2466Their mission is to make safety recommendations of which they make very few, 3+years too late.
Y’all just saying that cuz she’s a curvy blonde with brains lol
@@SquawkCode Listen to their board meetings. They have a “most wanted” list of recommendations they’ve repeatedly made years ago that the FAA and other agencies haven’t acted on. Their accident reports are very thorough (and usually take less than 3 years, with very urgent things addressed sooner), but unfortunately they have no regulatory power.
This was one of the most pathetic uninformed NTSB conferences I have ever heard. Definitely a product of diversity hiring.
Yes, Jennifer. Go get em on the CVR requirement. Timestamp is 19:17.
Absolutely. Yet another example of safety recommendations made by the NTSB but apparently ignored by the FAA. I'm sure after whining from the airlines.
This is the way to do a proper press and public briefing on a critical issue affecting passengers/people. She was prompt, detailed, and empathic. She was forward looking and able to advise what they have done, what they plan to do, and issues impacting this investigation, such as no FDR and no door. I am really impressed with this responsiveness from a Federal agency and I thank the NTSB for their process.
I’m not if they were doing this right less close calls would occur
I’ve listened to many NTSB board meetings for years. Jennifer Homendy is always impressive.
@@staceymoore7692the NTSB is not the body that designs, manufactures, certifies, or even makes the rules by which planes must be made and operated. That's others. It's up to others to implement NTSB recommendations, in order to improve safety and reduce the number of incidents. So it's not the NTSB that are inadequate, here.
@@wurlyone4685 It's clear that very few of the people commenting here have a clue how air crash investigations are conducted, how the industry is monitored, or how the regulations are created. It's pretty depressing how dumb a good chunk of the population is.
I can't believe an iphone survived the fall from 16,000 feet and was still on in airplane mode. Amazing!
A couple of cell phones really did get put into "airplane mode"
Good for her for calling out FAA o
How can we be the worldwide gold standard when our cockpit voice recorders are two hours versus 25 in Europe?
USA regulations not revised and updated. Greetings from the other side of the pond.👍
You’re gold standard in investigation. Less good at follow up. Although it is a mixed bag.
Ask Congress. Ask the FAA. That's what Ms. Homendy is suggesting here. They won't do anything until the public starts caring or people die.
@@philipwhiuk Thanks, thats explains why i follow EASA regulation and not FAA.
That is currently changing but there is a lot of hardware to be updated before we see it on all US airplanes.
Great briefing. This is what we like to see from our officials. Very thorough process breakdown down by this NTSB official. Thank you 👍
What an excellent communicator! Congratulations to NTSB and director Homendi. Listening to her gives me confidence that it is safe to fly, and that she and her team will not allow dangerous practices to continue.
*Homendy
You give her, and NTSB too much credit. And she is mostly rambling about a bunch of irrelevant stuff. Also, NTSB only gives recommendations for about 1% of all incidents each year and rarely gives findings/recommendations for incidents involving private aircraft. And when they do, it's 2 years later. They need to do better.
Are you high?
@@basecitizenjust sarcastic
Very informative briefing. I'm really glad to to hear her call for a 25 hour CVR in all commercial aircraft, as this is long overdue. It was also great to hear about the work of the flight crew in managing the emergency. I agree with the below comments - this sort of briefing makes me feel my tax dollars are well spent at the NTSB!
Come on Fairchild or whoever makes them, add a redundant recorder with 24+ hours of recording time to the CVRs, then you still have a robust 2 hour recorder but a backup that may save the day. I mean 10 years ago my laptop could record 2 channels of 96k 24bit audio for 300 hours. Surely that’s not so difficult
The problem is not Fairchild. The issue is not technical. The problem is the ALPA (airline pilots union) and the penny pinching airlines. Politics and profits.
Did you even LISTEN to the briefing? The 24-hour recorders already exist. They're used in Europe and other parts of the world. The FAA finally got around to requiring them on new planes, but Ms. Homendy basically begged the public to put pressure on the FAA and Congress to mandate that airlines retrofit older planes with the updated CVRs. Pay attention!
@@ninedaysjane2466 Did you even LISTEN to the briefing? She clearly said the FAA was considering making a new rule which would require 25-hour recorders, not that they have actually implemented it yet. "Notice of **proposed** rulemaking." Pay attention!
As an aerospace (and technical) engineer this was just too hard to watch!
It might be helpful to describe any nuts and bolts etc that connected the plug to the hinges or frame. A random bolt on the sidewalk might not get noticed ordinarily.
Lengthening CVR is great! Any CVR extension should apply to all aircraft that currrently use CVR tech, not just newer ones!
At 16,000 ft, with an estimated airspeed of 400mph, and an estimated cabin pressurization of 6,000-ft altitude, the 26x48-inch door plug was undergoing around 7,400 pounds of force, or 3.7 tons, on a 63-lb panel. This is only a fraction of the force that this interior surface area is regularly subjected to at altitude during each flight.
This is the information I expected to hear and not some diversity hire nonsense.
FAA is always dragging- why doesn’t the NTSB take over that failed Agency? We had the similar problems UAL flight 811.
The NTSB has to investigate the FAA occasionally, so having the NTSB run the FAA would introduce conflicts of interest. Thats why they're set up as seperate agencies
You're really embarrassing yourself here. THE NTSB IS NOT A REGULATORY AGENCY. They can only make recommendations. The FAA has the authority, and Congress has the authority, but neither will do it.
One agency is regulatory while the other is investigative. They are two separate beasts that need to remain that way to prevent actual or implied conflicts of interests.
@@gailpeterson3747 Certainly doesn’t stop the CIA , FDA, and numerous other agencies. There is a regulatory side, and investigative side. FDA has gotten lazy on quite a few issues that have either allowed conditions to be present or by omission , close calls.
As a consumer, I would like an NTSB official saying doors should not be falling off brand new airliners costing millions. The manufacturing process that allowed this to happen will be the focus of our investigation.
That is just simply not accurate and is speculation at this point in time. The aircraft went to an aftermarket vendor to have onboard wifi installed in early December, and the issue just as easily could have arisen from some kind of mistake made there.
While there is no fault in the statement, I bring attention to another video of a windshield popping out. (might have been where the captain went half way out.) Maintenance man with lots of experience, replaced the old bolts with new ones. He had to get some of them from a parts bin in another location. The bolts LOOKED the same, but they were not. Yes he did not look up the part#. Yes we can sit here and say several million different parts are too many to need, including on this PLUG..
@@cliffontheroadname an instance since then when a cockpit window blew out in flight. You act as if nothing has been learned or processes changed since then or as if somehow unrelated failures are all tied together.
@@FloorItDuh Ask me again after the bolts to the plug are found. They may not be related although human error could be a parallel. My reply was to the "mistakes should not happen", just like "accidents should not happen" but I see that moonlight is not saying that, he wants the NTSB to say it. It IS a worthy goal.
So the plane is trying to tell you it's got a pressurization problem, so you just restrict it from flying ETOPS and don't ground it until the problem is fixed ?
And 7 empty seats on the plane, 2 of which are next to the door that blew out. I’m glad someone asked if that was merely coincidence.
They may have gotten complaints from passengers in that row about wind noise.@@Bitterrootbackroads
No they dont know yet
I wonder what the pilots were talking about before they erased the audio data…
@@calvincoolidge6627 WTAF?
Four bolts hold the plug in place. This fact can be found in the design manuals, and there is an excellent video showing this design on You Tube. Why hasn't one reporter looked into the design of how the door is locked and asked her if the bolts are present or evidence that the bolts were ever installed (i.e. elongated bolt holes, damaged bolt holes, etc.). Pure speculation at this point but absent danage from bolts being ripped out, it is likely the bolts were not in place to hold the plug from being ripped down on its hinges and eventually departing the aircraft. If the bolts are indeed found to be absent, then the next question is for how long? Did Spirit Areosystens fail to install them when they manufactured the fuselage section, did Boeing remove them to ease assembly or did Alaska Airlines take them out to complete other maintenance?
The most important question is will anyone lose their job if indeed the volts are found to be missing?
Most reporters are pretty clueless about how airplanes work. They have no idea what questions to ask. It's pretty depressing.
Aren't the bolts and the holes for them wholly on the door itself?
@@ImperrfectStranger No. There is a slot and bar that engages by forcing a spring down. The top two bolts are safety Bolts that prevent the bar from moving down. They aren't load bearing Bolt, and are attached to the airframe, not the door. So this person is spot on.....where are the safety Bolts? Is there Damage in those holes showing that they sheared off? Or is there zero damage which indicates they were not installed?
Video showing details of bolts and door mechanism ruclips.net/video/maLBGFYl9_o/видео.html
This was really well done, thank you for having this briefing.
Agree though, good briefing and details.
Excellent briefing, very transparent and detailed. Well thoughtful spokesperson. Thank you.
The word you are looking for is derailed…
😅 good line. But it's oeing derailed 😅.
Media briefings would be better if you had someone with a roving microphone to hand to the questioner so viewers could hear the questions. Would also speed up the briefing as the questions wouldn't have to be repeated by the person doing the briefing.
Thank you NSTB and Ms. Homendy for dissemenating the pertinent information you have at the moment. This is a complex evovling process with many days of inspection. Thanks for updating with facts. Speculation is just that, speculation. When the final document is compiled, we will then know how this incident happened.
That's why I find NTSB investigations so fascinating. It's just a shame we have to wait so long. HOWEVER, I'd rather wait for the truth than be fed bs! 😉
I don’t take my family on a trip in my car if my freaking check engine light turns on. A de- pressurization of an airplane is the equivalent.. Alaska chose to proceed. As Homendy said, they didn’t fly over seas in case the light turns on again to turn back. Well it did -3 times.
She kept saying the light was benign. We now know it wasn't. As they say in baseball, three strikes and you're out!
I find it interesting how she emphasized the Communicate in Aviate, Navigate, Communicate. I know they would love to have the CVR but Communicate is listed last for a reason. It’s actually written in blood, from many previous instances of pilots communicating when they should have been flying the plane and got everyone killed.
My kids where there
FYI, both streams end abruptly mid-sentence ☹️
It's as if they were driving home the problem of the 2-hour voice recorders.. 🤣
Would love to know the findings for the mandatory inspections after the grounding. Do United and Alaska have to report their findings to the FAA?
The Alaska Mechanics will not touch the aircraft without NTSB personnel present. The NTSB will report the results.
I'm not asking about the incident aircraft, I'm talking about the rest of the fleet.
That door plug might not hit anyone on the ground by the time it blew out of the airplane, hope they are able to locate and narrow down its location soon.
Excellent Briefing
I saw a pic taken in the plane right after the incident that showed a passenger window had blown out close to the "plug". Funny Jennifer didn't mention this in her detailed list of damage of the windows, panels, trim, etc.
@ 22:04 "... but only on newly manufactured aircraft. So it would not effect this aircraft." But this aircraft was only delivered to AA on October 31 2023. How 'new' does an aircraft have to be?
Aircraft beginning one year after the rule is put into effect. It is not even on the books yet since this is an FAA proposal.
This is why the emphasis is on a retrofit instead of a potentially decades long phase out of technology that no longer meets aviation safety standards.
Good briefing. Hope you find the true cause. This hits home for me since I fly Alaska all the time and travel between Seattle and Portland. EDIT: They found the door.
The lady talking does not have a pilot license, but she does have a moped endorsement. Maybe the union worker that forgot to put the bolts in may be held accountable? no, we’re going to fine Boeing. and Alaska Airlines that should fix the problem. we can all pay another $20 a seat.
Not a fan of the NTSB...but, Homendy conducted a very good news briefing.
Especially repeating the news questions for the in home viewers.
"Not a fan of the NTSB." 😂😂😂😂😂
remember, NTSB has no power to make rules, they are only allowed to investigate. Now only if the FAA brought their act together....
@@saswata1445 Exactly. And we both know the FAA (aka the Tombstone Agency) only takes action when there's a sufficiently high body count or the public makes enough noise.
Dear journalists, if it hasn't been asked yet, a good question to ask at the next briefing is, "When Alaska Airlines maintenance technicians took a look at the exact same door, on the opposite side of the aircraft, did they report any findings?"
Alaska Airlines maintenance personnel will look at the aircraft when the NTSB tells them to do so.
I’m horrified at this ‘airplane event’. Who was assigned to this door plug on the assembly line? As a nurse, if I screw up and harm or even potentially harm a pt, I’m investigated by the hosp admin/state board of nursing, and likely have my License revoked, which is my livelihood. So Boeing, maybe you should be reevaluating your mechanics and DEI/SGE clause in your mission statement.
Cvr issue. 2 hrs????? Wow.
Likely not an accident
jesus, great communication
has the plug door been found
Bob has just found it (after this briefing)
No
As of 11pm pacific, no
At time of briefing no, but then later, yes
Apparently yes. ruclips.net/user/liveo7Pfj8G7Rdg
during first conference she stated we have safest system in the world - now she states other places save more time of minimum cockpit audio than we do - sounds like our standards are lower to me - why is Boeing not offering money to locate the door plug ?
There is a difference between actual safety and the apparatus that studies incidents to enhance safety.
Great answer regarding the leading theories, facts are something the media doesn’t like to hear.
Hmmm. Well, I'm no expert, but I watched another video about how the door plug is attached, and I think she's wrong about the stop fittings. The stop fittings aren't the real structural support. They are only there to seal the door and keep the airplane pressurized. The real structural support comes from two bolts at the top and two bolts that go through the cylinder of the hinges. I've also read that it is routine for the final assembly line to remove the door plug (after it's shipped to Seattle from Spirit), do their work, and reinstall the door plug. So ... my theory is that they never put those four bolts back in. The 12 stop fittings were able to hold for two months, but then they gave way. This would explain the 3 depressurization events. There is definitely a plausible relationship if the stop fittings were the only things holding the door on. This is the only theory I can think of that explains how the door plug could come off so cleanly.
You are what's wrong with this country.
Plausible but there is not enough information available to jump to conclusions and to immediately imply unethical practices when that is not knowing is slanderous.
The stop fittings slide behind eachother so to speak. First the plug gets closed (against the fuselage). Then it slides down 1.5 inch. After that the plug should be secured by locking bolts to prevent it from moving up again which would result in a misalignment between the fittings of the plug and those of the frame.
Nope, she's absolutely correct. Pretty much every door in a pressurized fuselage is designed that way. Everything else on the door is just to ensure it's in the correct position, and that the corresponding stops on the door, align with the fixed stops on the fuselage when pressurization happens. It's really the only way it can work when you consider the amount of force on those doors. I'm not up to speed with these newer aircraft, but on older aircraft they would be tested, in service.. not sure what the manufacturing tests would be, at a max pressure differential of 8 lbs. PSI. I would love to know the square inch area of that particular door so we could multiply that by 8. The outward force adds up pretty quickly.
Why, because he has a brain?
Whatever maintenance schedule the 737Max is on, I would accelerate the number of inspections in order to capture what seems to have been a shoddy production by Boeing. If after a certain amount of time it is deemed unnecessary to perform the inspections, it can be reduced.
I am so stunned to hear that modern airliners have CVRs that overwrite themselves and don't (at a minimum) last the whole flight.....I am stunned that the full flight data (of any flight, not just ones with events) are not automatically downloaded and archived in airline servers after each flight.....cockpit conversations of the previous flights of this aircraft could also have contained useful info, no?
Boeing and the airlines should not be cheaping out on this....we are in a day and age when we can all easily record 25 hours of audio on our cheap phones....
That would be a lot of data to pay to store. Also, the pilots unions would throw a fit.
Survival factors team should at least ask the passengers sitting nearby if they noticed anything beforehand, eg. maybe hissing or a draft.
The NTSB must be such a wonderful place to work at. One has to investigate someone's behaviour, and one's boss has already labelled it "heroic". So efficient and time-saving!
She referred to the flight attendants as "heroic", which in the circumstances is a fair characterisation of their actions.
In this issue, Noone on the aircraft could have affected the cause of this, but the flight crew landed the aeroplane safely with no injuries. I don't think they could have done better!
This is not a behavioural issue, this is a faulty aircraft. As things stand, I think the direction of the investigation will head towards Boeing and Alaskan. Either way, this appears to be a profits over people situation.
@@PercyPruneMHDOIFandBars: Apparently, the flight crew could (and should) have pulled the CBs for the CVR.
I find these briefings by ms Homendy are excellent. I appreciate the empathy with human factors, while objective about the facts as it stands today. I find the detail, clarity and comprehensiveness of the last two briefings has been exceptional.
Thank you for sharing these fully here so we can all receive this information.
passengers know their cell phone #, and the towers can be pinged, and then MAYBE called before the battery dies. I suspect NTSB will get around to this, if debris field is helpful in finding the door plug. I assume she is as good in her job as she is at sharing information with the press.
I doubt they still work after falling 16,000 feet onto asphalt.
Wrong, 1 phone is 100% working and no crack whatsoever. The door was already found. Total of 2 phones were found, 1 I know was an iPhone in working condition.
The iPhone was in airplane mode, so that would make finding it difficult... Mine would have been easy to find because it's never in airplane mode 😂
My reaction? Oh Crap. Why? 1st time I ignored the phone might break, and now about airplane mode. It's a bummer getting old. Your "never" is OK because they make the planes immune to near every interference cause. I used to use a Ham radio on flights with no problem. Now they won't allow it. And the celly system hitting multiple towers IS dealt with too. Thanks. @@lordneeko
24:00 👏👏👏👏👏👏
im betting on the 4 bolts never fitted
I second that
Well at least the top or bottom two. Based on the design the plug can depart missing two bolts. My guess is the top two are missing, never installed/re-installed. The question will be, at which point were they removed, or were they never installed.
The competency crisis …
Investigate why a plane was restricted to fly over water but was ok if it crashed over land and houses.
A good question could've been "Were any passengers seated on 25 & 26 CDEFGH?" (I dint have the configuration of the flight handy)
If they too were empty then there's a chance that Alaska Airlines knew something was amiss with door plugs
More likely the passengers migrated away from the seats because the sidewall was making a hissing sound 😋 Pressurisation leaks can be very noisy. Sometimes if the rubber seals around doors don't seat properly, they act like a reed in a wind instrument and squeal like crazy.
The 2 seats next to the door plug were empty. Purely by chance, if you believe the airline.
Nothing from Cvr- lol, captain knows the score
So Europe already has 25 hour CVRs, so they have already been designed, certified, and exist, and it's not mandatory to install them in the US? What a joke!
This investigation CANNOT be 100% completed without the door plug.
Door plug was found today in a Portland back yard.
Door founded. Check next NTSB short video.
If I saw that land, I would be like, get inside, bodies will be next.
The proposed rule to extend.CVR record times is being fought because of finances!!!!! Sad!!!
I have a feeling greedy airlines are involved. They have a lot of influence on the FAA and Congress.
When she says "no correlation" between pressurization warnings and the plug door departing, she must mean "no known causation". There is an obvious correlation, by the fact that the two events occurred concurrently. She confuses correlation with causation. If she only has an engineering degree that is excusable.
Also it should be interesting what the media interviewers will get out of the two passengers who would otherwise have been destined for quite an interesting trip in seats 26A and 26B, having a gaping hole appear next to them, and no functioning oxygen supply. Undoubtedly "there must have been a reason why we missed the flight".
I'm betting if those 2 people made the flight, this would be a different outcome. They most likely would of been sucked out.
Pressurization Light to Alaska Airline & Boeing " Houston We Have a Problem ! "
The response Nah We good ! Just tap the light bulb until it goes out ...
At a meeting between Alaska Airlines and Boeing after the NTSB talking about it and the flight restrictions we put on the plane not to be able to fly over the ocean to Hawaii.
All the Lawyers involved at the meeting simultaneously yell F#%& !!!
Why does the US not have the best practice regarding any safety items? The CVR overwriting at 2 hours when 25 hours is in place in other regions is unacceptable.
No mention of the pilots expertise on they handled the situation during an emergency! Who cares about Bob, I give thanks to the professionalism of the crew. The NTSB diversity spokesperson could learn a thing or two from them!
pop goes the airplane!
So Ford sells cars with "plugs" and no full door locks. This starts smelling bad for Boeing..
0:44 actual start
So much being said... so little being said....
You guys are doing an incredible job on this one @NTSB. I’m looking forward to this one getting on Mayday:Air Disasters once your final report is released. Oh and thank you for these pressers with updates. I share your opinion on the length of the CBR. Often an inflight emergency does not result in an immediate landing and more recordings of what follows could be helpful. If I can I will write this into a comment on the rule change proposal as well as agitate my US Senators to take some action.
Cutting through all the crap talk, Boeing and AA blew it. Plain and simple. Now Jennifer is going to smooth the incident over so y'all will keep on paying to fly.
I do not think anyone believes this was a faulty light issue! It was doing its job of alerting of a pressurization problem multiple times; they dropped the ball here with MULTIPLE alarms and not looking further then beyond a faulty light, that's obvious.
Of course...It's a warning system that WASN'T faulty.
"178 seats onboard and 171 had passengers in them" Is it just a miraculous coincidence the 2 seats next to this spot weren't sold? Or did Alaska know those 2 seats were problematic, given the warnings? 🤔
YES, throw the FAA under the bus. 2hrs is ridiculous. It's just a voice recorder, do you KNOW how cheap solid-state storage disks are today? There's no excuse! It should be so simple to retrofit, and inexpensive as well. I can't believe it. 2 fricking hours in 2024.
@2:20 The "Chair" is tiptoeing around trying to describe the male & female parts of the plug without misgendering the parts. 🤦🏻♂️
😂😂😂
@@rexdavis9671 смешно? Я буду последний смеяться
Change the regulations to.mandate children under 2 require.their own seats. IT IS ON THE GOVERNMENT!!
The NTSB has been telling the FAA to do it since the 80s. The NTSB is NOT a regulatory agency. The FAA is, and the FAA won't do it, in part because the public DOESN'T WANT TO PAY for the extra seat.
For free. $ is tight at that age.
@@cavy95 If you're unwilling to pay for your child's safety, find another way to travel. Yes, the airlines should absolutely discount the ticket, if not make it outright free. Of course they're against it because it costs them money, but it's mostly because people don't want to pay extra. Babies in rear-facing car seats would be as safe as flight attendants in jump seats. They wouldn't become projectile missiles like they did on United 232 way back in 1989. The NTSB and other organizations have been campaigning to get rid of the lap-child allowance at least since then.
Why would ANYONE be for this. Would be a nightmare
Don't most airlines have special baby beds nowadays?
It's clear from these comments that most of you are stunningly ignorant about how the NTSB works and what it does. It is NOT a regulatory agency. The NTSB can make recommendations. It cannot force anyone -- airlines, manufacturers, the pilots' union, or the FAA -- to do anything. Only the FAA can. Do you understand that? The NTSB is about AVIATION SAFETY. The FAA is supposed to regulate aviation safety, but it has a terrible reputation. That's why it's known in aviation circles as the Tombstone Agency. The FAA (and Congress) won't do jack until enough bodies pile up. The NTSB can beg and beg and beg the FAA to implement safety measures -- it's been asking to force the FAA to do away with the lap children exemption since the 80s, but THE PUBLIC is against it because wahhhhh, you don't want to pay more for an infant seat -- but that's all the NTSB can do. Furthermore, every one of you dim bulbs complaining about Jennifer Homendy and the briefing don't have a clue what you're talking about. The NTSB is one of the best-operating and most transparent agencies around. You can find the procedure for analyzing accidents and incidents on their website. They have entire TEAMS of investigators. You couldn't even name one, just the man you know is in charge. If you want to whine and complain, direct your complaints to the FAA and your congress members.
They where really blessed no one got suck out of the plane and it didn't go down thank God it landed safe what a nightmare.
Wow, there are a lot of pro NTSB bots in this comment section.
New year 2024 Nstb and mta and flight airport
Can that plane! Who would like to fly in that plane again?
When is a door not a door, when it's a plug. But lets keep calling it a door, or plug or door plug.
It can be confusing for non-aviation people like her. It is a "door" it's just that its normal state is deactivated. If you had to change or repair this item, you'd find it in chapter 52 of the maintenance manual. What is chapter 52? Doors. On some aircraft, even the access panels that lead into the fuel tanks are called doors.
05:20 What? They had a DONT FLY TO HAWAI sticker on this plane?
This is not uncommon at all. I didn't hear her mention a "sticker" but they will have some way of denoting ETOPS capability and CAT capability in the cockpit. Some airlines use a little wheel, like something you'd see on your dishwasher (clean vs dirty) except it will indicate CAT and / or ETOPS status.
Definitely an SNL skit coming...
I like her she’s really good
I do think it’s…surprising…that the flight was almost full with 171 out of 178 seats occupied, and luckily at least 3 out of 7 empty seats were at the affected area. It feels like this wasn’t a coincidence.
The 2 people in those seats missed the flight.
What's with the NTSB wallboard? They think they're at a movie premier
Most/all agencies have some version of this
The " Karen Exit "(door) Maximum Problems from Boeing 737 BeAware
They should retrofit at the “C” service
Rather than showing off your knowledge of aviation operations, let the FAA and Congress know that retrofits must be done.
@ninedaysjane2466, re: “showing off”, piss off, the only one showing off is you
They could also put someone else in charge of pulling the circuit breaker, instead of just leaving it into the pilots
Let’s hope they don’t mandate the baby car seat thing.. what a total nightmare that would be
Yikes! Past flights had a depressurization light come on and they continued to fly this plane!????!?!?!?! WTF are they thinking?!?! That is a sign something structural could be wrong. Putting lives at risk at the sake of profits is NOT a good look!
Bravo, joli pied au cul à la FAA 😂
On est d'accord... Ca commence à faire beaucoup d'incicdents... Ca craint.
I swear I’ve heard the cvr from the SFO incident 🤔
That would be ground based ATC recording, rather than recordings from the cvr. So only the conversations between flight deck and air traffic control, not capturing the conversations within the aircraft.
I swear people are dumber than they used to be.
@@ninedaysjane2466 looks like you're having a field day in this comment section 😀
I’m positive this had nothing to do with affirmative action hires at DEI Boeing.
Bingo 🎯
The flight attendants were amazing. The pilots are at fault for losing the CVR data - this is completely unacceptable to happen and to happen so much. I'm confident the pilots and the pilots union is the barrier here. Shameful.
Woman pilot …
sorry, but, i am going to LAY IN TO YOU HERE.................the pilots had ABOSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the CVR and the FDR, NOTHING AT ALL, i take offense to your comment, that flight crew was NOTHING but professional in that situation, or, im assuming you could have done it better? and, if so, PLEASE share with us what YOU would have done, we are all waiting, (and no, Microsoft Flight Simulator 2023 does not count)
@@fhowland wow, i never thought it would be possible for someone to show just how ignorant and stupid they are with just 2 words
This is the most uniformed NTSB team I have ever seen or heard! This seems like the product of diversity hiring
Somehow it feels like NTSB is sharing too much information prematurely
She gets her 15min?
@@wadewoehrmann2835 You wouldn't be saying that if Robert Zumwalt was still chair.
You don't even know how the NTSB works.
Perhaps but I have not idea of who he is. It is just painful to try and follow her thoughts as she speaks - someone on her team certainly could speak a little more to the point. ? @@ninedaysjane2466
Please say "uh" a little more. I forgot what it sounds like 😂
If they had somebody up there who was speaking perfectly with no "uh"s, then insane conspiracy theorists would think it's all scripted and staged. There's no winning with some people...
I'm sure you'd do better.
@ninedaysjane2466 absolutely 💯
"You can't call it a door" *calls it a door 4 times after that. Man NTSB get a chair that can speak this is just sad.
Straight to jail
To be fair, the NTSB conducts investigations and briefs on all 5 modes of transportation. Mrs. Homendy came from the rail side of the house. Her briefings on those are far better. Shes doing an okay job despite not being raised in aviation.
Edit: that said, she really should let her Investigator in Charge handle this brief...
@@mikesmith7249 I agree. She does a pretty good job but why have Investigator Lovell stand there like a cigar store indigenous person.
@@grayrabbit2211 What are your credentials?
@@grayrabbit2211 *It's. You have no clue what you're talking about and you certainly don't have the credentials to be criticizing anyone at the NTSB. You aren't fit to hold a pencil there.
Why would anyone trust the FAA that has ex aircraft manufacture exec's as board members. Airbus has a much better standard and history, if there is ever a MAX plane on my ticket I would get a refund.
This Lady, the chairwoman of NTSB is not an aeronautical engineer. She has A Bachelor of Arts Degree and is a master's candidate as per Wikipedia. This kind of people chair NTSB. No wonder Boeing holds a license to make defective planes to kill people or put their lives at risk all day every day. In FAA, the administrator is a Lawyer. Really, this is not a joke. These two are at the top job to approve all the faulty planes made by Boeing. Is it time for us to avoid Boeing planes? Should we say no to agents if they book flights made by Boeing?
wait, you mean you use wikipedia as your go to source for information? wow
the governments throwing airplanes at my house! 😠 who built the airplane Dr.Fauci and the CDC?
Even if one lands on your house, figure that your tin foil hat will provide some protection ; )
NTSB is a joke
Your mother is a joke.
She likes the sound of her own voice. Blind freddy would be able to button this one up!
You are what's wrong with this country.
480p , 4k would be ideal with modern displays . Hopefully that was kind feedback. I'm watching this again because I wanted to hear more detail on the 25hr cache for the cockpit voice recorder 🪈