Check out Jay on his youtube channel NBT studio @ ruclips.net/user/NextBestThi... I got to visit the store Audio Excellence and wanted to show everyone this very nice Clear Audio Statement turntable. Audio excellence - 70 esna park dr unit 7 Sound demo was from a psaudio dac and not the turntable.
The two things that always blows my mind with high end turntables are: #1 no dust cover #2 no full or semi automatic operation. Yes wow, that is defiantly a conversation starter piece of gear and im sure it sounds super good. -Thanks for sharing !
@@Jayiyagi great! I happen to be in the market for some floorstanding speakers right now. Due to a strong need for a high WAF, am down to either the Focal Kanta no3 or the Sonus Faber sonetto 7. Hope I get a chance to see reviews on your channel!
Just like a very high end watch! A $25 watch can keep time just as well as a million dollar watch! The difference is in the fact that the whole goal of the high end watch’s movement is to try and make it as complicated as possible! No joke! Not even talking about the jewels or metal used! Just the gears and such! It seems the same can be said with these type of ultra high end audio products!🤯🤪
Thanks Thomas, Thanks Jay. I may never get a chance to see gear like that in person but having you guys show me around was the next best thing, awesome. Jay your youtube channel is great I just subscribed.
Very nice Thomas , glad you were able to hear those Wilson’s . A few weeks ago I was able to hear the Wilson Sasha’s and Alexandria’s , really cool experience.
Thomas thank you very much for taking us viewers along for another awesome adventure. That store has a fantastic looking inventory. The ClearAudio Statement is a work of art. Love the engineering that goes into that turntables construction. Those Wilson's are both beautiful to look at, and to listen to. Subscribed to Jay's RUclips Channel. He has some great content.
@5:02 "The needle is the Clearaudio Goldfinger..." It is not a needle. It is a stylus. Needles are for sewing, for donating blood, and for flu shots. @6:24 "This is a platter underneath..." The two platters are physically disconnected from each other. They do not touch each other. Yet, when one spins, they both spin. This is due to them being married via magnets (and the magnets never touch). The motor turns the lower platter, via a belt. The lower platter turns the upper platter, via its magnetic pull. This design separates as much motor related vibration as possible from reaching the upper platter, which, in turn, keeps motor vibration from reaching the stylus. By the way, the Clearadio turntable that sat directly to the right of the Statement turntable is also a dream turntable -- just a smaller dream. I believe it is the Innovation model (with only the Master Innovation model before you get to the Statement model). I am curious as to which tone-arm and cartridge they have installed on the Innovation model. Musical Surroundings is the distributor for Clearaudio. Garth Leerer is the President of Musical Surroundings. I met Garth, at an audio show in a New Jersey high-end store. He is very knowledgeable and personable. He brought with him a Clearaudio Goldfinger cartridge. He installed it in the room's AMG turnstable's tone-arm. It replaced a very good Clearaudio cartridge, that was a bit lower down their line (the Goldfinger is their flagship cartridge). I had heard that AMG turntable before and after the cartridge change. That Goldfinger cartridge is really good. Yes, it is expensive. But you are going to get a lot for that $$.
What a cool place Thomas and cool people (Jay) too!!! The engineering on the design of that turn table looks wicked cool. Looks like a wicked trip! I'm way to far away in AB to visit...doh!
Thanks, I really try to make it down to earth chatting with a friend and I involve a lot of people in the background to make sure my assessment is as 'true' as possible.
As always, you are honest and transparent, and you are aware of differences in taste, and always describe the listening experience in ways I have never heard before. Very educational, I have learned things about my own system, but even more importantly, you simplified my life when I was shopping for equipment. I was impressed that you put the time stamp up so people could skip to the turntable review. You didn't want to waste people's time, (but I heard it all). But I also note how careful you are not to ever appear to be selling. Your reviews could be on the App "Calm", because of your relaxed style, which is folksy with a Canadian, Asian (Hong Kong?) accent, LOL.
Thanks for the video Thomas. Nice store. I never knew that the top of the table floated like that. Now I see the need for the pendulum! I think that the Sabrina's would be a better match for your room. They were too small for that room, that's why the larger Wilson's worked better in there.
It's my belief that people that buy equipment like this don't buy to actually listen to music but more as a statement and look what I got that you don't type of thing
Progressive Guy, rotating a disc and dragging a needle isn’t rocket science brother. There aren’t that many variables. The Denon is over-built, dead silent, perfectly accurate and upgraded with Mogami interconnects, and high end capacitors. It probably sounds and works better! And, I’d bet it’s more reliable lol.
Hey Thomas, find a friend that has Raidho Acoustics D5.1 and do the video review and sound demo on them. You know, I was always very skeptical about high end audio but since you showed us the Raidho D3, I become curios and listened to some of the sound demos Raidho here on RUclips with my IE800 and omg, D5.1 it pulls my heart everytime I listen to the demos. Please if you can make a review and demo. I am sure one of friends of your friends has them. Cheers.
The problem with the D5.1 is the size. My friend was considering upgrading his D3 to the D4.1 but size was the problem. If you were able to hear it in person, you will see that the speed on those speakers are amazing. The bass coming out of those diamond woofers are punchy and lighting fast. If you ever go to an audioshow, you will find the same feel with the Magico high end speakers too because they also use diamond woofers.
@@ThomasAndStereo: Thanks Thomas. I am considering selling my house to buy the D5.1 speakers. You got me into it. ;-). But please, if friends of you friends have them just give us a video tour and review them. I would say your reviews are the best on the net.
The best turntable in the world? By jove i would say it is and matter of fact i've got three, one in my main listening room, one in the Kitchen and one in the bathroom. Excessive to be sure but at least I always have the finest in analog playback no matter what i'm doing around the house. All jokes aside i recently bought a concept as my new tt and its beautifully made and sounds great.
Woah!... AAAAA+++++ This sounded GREAT even through your Iphone recording Thomas! Absolutely magic sound, thanks for doing that video and, thank You to your friend / subscriber / salesman who was kind enough to explain the complexity of this impressive bit of German engineering. Gosh...that is why I keep away from dealership showrooms.. it gets too tempting to start spending 'silly' money on the hobby.. One of the most adventurous and fun videos you've made so far young man!.. WELL DONE!
What a great thing to have fans all over the world opening secret doors for you Thomas 😀 I can appreciate all the ingenuityand expertise put in onto that incredible turntable but its just too much for me. My Technics are good enough i think.
Yeah, I think the purpose of a statement piece is just to make a statement. So, I am sure it's possible to get very close to it's performance for significantly less. But that is not the point of a statement piece :)
Hey Thomas! I see that they have a pair of Audio Physic speakers there that I really think you should listen to. Don't know if you have listened to Audio Physic earlier but they are german speakers and are really good! You really should test them. My favorite among their speakers is the "TEMPO PLUS" or "Tempo 25 Plus+" I think you would like them. It´s a must try! ;)
Thanks for the suggestion. I did audition some entry level Audio Physics, well they were about $10k , and I remember they were bass heavy which I was surprised given their lean size. Maybe next time when I visit Jay :)
Hi Thomas. Your videos are great and informative and very interesting! I encountered a review on youtube claiming that 250$ DAC is just as good as 2000$ and on a blind test its impossibe to guess what DAC is currently playing because they sound equally good. Would you accept the challange and film a video of a blind (!) test of some well reviewed DAC as the qutest (priced 1900$ now) vs a cheaper one like geshelli enog2 (priced 250$ now)? Any result will be super enlightening! Thank you and best regards!
Well, I think those people who tried it absolutely believe what they say and I am not here to discredit them. My experience tells me there is a difference and you do need a high end system to be really able to tell the difference. I would say just buy what you can afford comfortably and don't think about it much. I would just say, the higher end ones sound more analog than the budget one. I gone thru over 10 dacs at difference price point.
@@ThomasAndStereo I have to say that discredit anybody is not my intention by no means. It makes sence that you need a good system to hear better the differences between DACs but I was pretty sure that one of the best modern DACs for the money that costs 1900$ (qutes) will sound better then 250$ DAC even on a low end hi-fi. By the way, the most analog digital source I heard is the Luxman d-06 CD player. Not a cheap CD :)
Believe it or don't, but a childhood chum who now lives in one of Manhattan's newer slip-formed reinforced-concrete supertall stilts is adamant that his CA Statement is in some way susceptible to mechanical resonance from the building itself - and, somehow, from the building's tuned-mass damper many floors above - both of which ostensibly cause a spurious low-freq foghorn-sounding artifact. As if this didn't seem delusional enough, he followed up by swearing on a stack of Bibles (just like 3rd Grade) that the salesman, on a visit to follow up the installation of the CAS (and after more than a few single-malt refreshments), actually responded in the affirmative to his complaint by stating that other clients who lived in these new supertall reinforced-concrete buildings had the same problem, and then suggested that my pal should "go to Home Depot" and "get some of those foam noise-suppression panels" in order to "damp it out," and, if that didn't work, to ask the building management to blow acoustic foam into the pipe races and utility spaces closest to his residence. I was about to ask him if he or the sycophantic salesman had any idea how this supposed infrasonic structural groaning was inducing his CAS to make like the Nantucket Lightship, but then I remembered that this guy also had, decades ago, a paving brick atop his Rotel CD Player - and that he'd painted the circumferences of all his CDs with matt green model paint. -When the Emperor says it is midnight at noon, the wise men reply "Behold, the stars!" Regards, Kev ps. I seem to recall that the brick was supposed to suppress any vibration reaching the CD player, acting as a cost-free alternative to mechanical isolation - and that the green nail polish was believed to absorb and redirect any scattered laser light, thus improving the signal. pps. I never fell for any of this nonsense, although I confess I tried to sharpen razor blades in a pasteboard pyramid. -K.
For me the tt3 signature turntable and Kronos are the very best, way more exciting and real. I personally think that too many turntables in the business sound like VPI; being to overly polite and nice, lacking smash factor and grunt and ultra resolution. Many turntables are just very safe and dialed back in sound.
Thomas what is your opinion on the Wilson speakers as compare to your canton. As i mentioned before Wilson and Vandersteen speakers were frequently used by vendors to show case their gear at the Munich HiFi shows.
Hard to really say because there was a lot of room for these Wilson unlike my place. Of course, these sounded better than my Canton, the bass alone on these will impress you. I do wish it was faster the bass on these Wilson like the Raidho but that is me nick picking. I like the sound signature of these Wilson, my type of sound.
Great stuff, thanks Thomas. I wonder, does the turntable automatically track, or do you have to set the tracking speed manually for each record? That seems like a bit of an inconvenience.
It's hard to say without doing an AB test in the same room. Just like that, I find the Kanta has better top end but for long listening session, the Sabrina might be better.
Thomas & Stereo thank you Thomas!! I also think maybe the sabrina is a league above the kanta 2, the sopra 2 is maybe more in the same level as the sabrina.
@@ThomasAndStereo Not as expensive as I thought, Thomas. In many respects then, the philosophy (thinking) behind this system is 'old school' i.e. max out on the front end as the amp and speakers will only reproduce the signal they receive.
I prefer the Sacha way more than the Sabrina. Jay chose specific tracks to showcase the power of the bass and it did deliver. I like the sound of the speakers as it falls into the category of speakers I like. It had authority and it could have even better with more power. The 8900 mcintosh was pushed to the limit as we were looking at the meters and it was maxed out. It still sounded good though. Not bright, not slow, they got many things right.
They are NOT bookshelf speakers! They are standmount speakers. I doubt anyone would be buying speakers of this quality and ruining their sound by putting them on a bookshelf. Enjoy your vids.
Actually, they ARE bookshelf speakers. Wilson Audio designed these specifically to go onto bookshelves or a table. The Wilson Duette is their standmount speaker, the TuneTot is really a bookshelf. From their website on the TuneTot page : « Environmental music systems are increasingly part of contemporary lifestyles. Another ground-breaking Special Applications product, the Wilson Audio Duette, successfully addressed the challenges caused by near boundary placement. Placing a loudspeaker on a desktop, bookshelf, counter top, or a credenza has meant accepting serious sonic compromises. Interactions and resonances from the furniture or shelf on which the loudspeaker rests are a source of audible distortion and colorations-deleterious factors most loudspeaker designers simply accept. The Wilson Way™ demanded a new look at the problem. The Special Applications Engineering team spent months researching the interactions between TuneTot and the surface upon which it is installed. It quickly became clear that assumptions surrounding environmental resonance control needed to be re-examined. For these installations, the challenges presented are very different from what exists for a typical floor-standing loudspeaker spiked to the floor-problems that require a different strategy. A series of accessories were developed specifically to address furniture-born resonances endemic to these types of installations.»
I’d love to compare that Clearaudio TT to my VPI Classic 3. Same cartridge. See what the difference is. I have nothing against expensive equipment- I’ve owned fairly expensive components in the past. I think most criticism of high end stuff comes from jealousy.
The problem with this type of design is in the bearing. Since you can't have a traditional "stick in a hole" bearing with a thrust pad meets ball end, this turntable needs the shaft to go through the hole to hold the bottom platter so it has to resort to angular contact bearing which is a kind of bearing that requires multiple balls in circular arrangement that ends up creating more noise. You practically lose the simplicity and elegance of a single ball bearing. And since it's driven by magnetic field, which is compliant, it's like having an extra rubber belt in a belt drive turntable. And it would create another lag time which can smear the sound and timing. At least in the EAR Disc Master turntable, it uses gear belt to avoid extra elasticity. The selling point is a non-contact bearing but it actually created more problems over traditional bearing than realized. It's Rube Goldberg and it's a visual monstrosity. No thanks! Peter Suchy hasn't come up with one single original idea without copying someone else!
@@wilfredmay5231 It's ok, this is a hifi channel where we have fun. There are other platforms for you to go debate about whatever if that is what you enjoy.
Hello Thomas hope you're doing well I love high-end audio but that is just ridiculous I think even if you have a billion dollars it's foolish to buy that that's my opinion obviously
Thomas I love high and stuff but that's just ridiculous I think even if you had a billion dollars it's just foolish to spend that much money on it that's my opinion obviously
Just because it's noncontact drive does not mean it is not compromised. The platter now cannot employ the traditional stick-in-hole type of bearing and must use some form of angular contact bearing to allow the shaft to protrude to hold the bottom platter. Traditional turntables have a shaft with a ball point contact. The Statement bearing now has multiple pressure contact points. You're trading one thing for another. Just like any physics in the universe, there's no free lunch. The magnetic force is to replace the belt but belt and magnetic field are compliant. So you have a belt drive table driving another platter via magnetic force, so it's compliance on top of compliance. How is that speed stable? Not impressed.
I am sure there's a servo or speed sensor system in place for a turntable of that price. But it's inelegant. It appears most audiophile turntables are about the shiny platter and the decorated plinth but audiophiles hardly pay attention to the motor. In fact most of them employ a $20 toy motor!
The best? No...not even close!. The most outragiously bling outragiously space swallowing "look at me" TTs, but best sounding? No way! The better decks and mostly likely better value are ones including the older EMT transcrisption decks, new acoustic signature decks, the TW Raven, and the more expensive Airforce 1 and Continium decks. Oh....Panzerholst is not bullet proof unless really thick. A 6.5 or 30 cal would rip through several inches of it but thats nothing to do with audio. Not impressed. All of this kit I've probably heard. None of it would be what I'd spend that sort of money on especially the speakers. Sophias are ok but the watt puppies are boomy and disjointed. This is a bling system that could be bettered at half the cost! Meant in the nicest possible way!
The best? Really..? Have you heard a Kronos Sparta or even a rockport turntable? You should hear a properly set up idler wheel turntable such as a Lenco or Garrard before claiming the best. I am surprised you have not listened to a Jean Nantais Lenco turntable...he is located in Ottawa.
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I got to visit the store Audio Excellence and wanted to show everyone this very nice Clear Audio Statement turntable.
Audio excellence - 70 esna park dr unit 7
Sound demo was from a psaudio dac and not the turntable.
The two things that always blows my mind with high end turntables are: #1 no dust cover #2 no full or semi automatic operation. Yes wow, that is defiantly a conversation starter piece of gear and im sure it sounds super good. -Thanks for sharing !
The salesguy, Jay, is good with headphone reviews. He gave me confidence to purchase my Audeze LCD 2.
Speaker reviews are coming too ! Hehe
@@Jayiyagi great! I happen to be in the market for some floorstanding speakers right now. Due to a strong need for a high WAF, am down to either the Focal Kanta no3 or the Sonus Faber sonetto 7. Hope I get a chance to see reviews on your channel!
Wow very nice products. The turntable is incredible. Thanks for sharing
Very Impressive setup! I wouldn't spend that much even if I could, but it's still interesting to see that this high end audio equipment exists.
Thanks Thomas and Jay... very cool
Just like a very high end watch! A $25 watch can keep time just as well as a million dollar watch! The difference is in the fact that the whole goal of the high end watch’s movement is to try and make it as complicated as possible! No joke! Not even talking about the jewels or metal used! Just the gears and such! It seems the same can be said with these type of ultra high end audio products!🤯🤪
It’s like being in the store enjoying all this awesomeness from home.
Thanks a lot.
Thanks thomas for the shout out. I just wanna say I cringed when I said needle ! The correct term would be cartridge.
Dude, you did it in one take man! No way i can do it , good job.
@@ThomasAndStereo you are so humble. Thank you for the underserved praise ! Always loving your content. Rock on !
calm down it's a needle :)
@@NiSHAN256 :)
Thanks Thomas, Thanks Jay. I may never get a chance to see gear like that in person but having you guys show me around was the next best thing, awesome. Jay your youtube channel is great I just subscribed.
Thanks Rob !
Thanks Rob, with my income, all this is just for fun, I can never afford this level of gear.
wow the sound from the demo was amazing!
Very nice Thomas , glad you were able to hear those Wilson’s . A few weeks ago I was able to hear the Wilson Sasha’s and Alexandria’s , really cool experience.
Thomas thank you very much for taking us viewers along for another awesome adventure. That store has a fantastic looking inventory. The ClearAudio Statement is a work of art. Love the engineering that goes into that turntables construction. Those Wilson's are both beautiful to look at, and to listen to. Subscribed to Jay's RUclips Channel. He has some great content.
Thanks for dropping by again. It's like a candy store for audiophiles. Extremely dangerous for your wallet :)
One of the coolest videos, Thomas and Jay meeting for the first time.
I really enjoyed all the videos you posted together with Jay, You guys have great "Synergy".
Amazing!! 😍 Wonder full !! 👏👏👏👏
ive seen one of those before.the Dan D'Agostino equipment is awesome and beautiful.
@5:02
"The needle is the Clearaudio Goldfinger..."
It is not a needle. It is a stylus.
Needles are for sewing, for donating blood, and for flu shots.
@6:24
"This is a platter underneath..."
The two platters are physically disconnected from each other. They do not touch each other.
Yet, when one spins, they both spin.
This is due to them being married via magnets (and the magnets never touch).
The motor turns the lower platter, via a belt.
The lower platter turns the upper platter, via its magnetic pull.
This design separates as much motor related vibration as possible from reaching the upper platter, which, in turn, keeps motor vibration from reaching the stylus.
By the way, the Clearadio turntable that sat directly to the right of the Statement turntable is also a dream turntable -- just a smaller dream. I believe it is the Innovation model (with only the Master Innovation model before you get to the Statement model).
I am curious as to which tone-arm and cartridge they have installed on the Innovation model.
Musical Surroundings is the distributor for Clearaudio.
Garth Leerer is the President of Musical Surroundings.
I met Garth, at an audio show in a New Jersey high-end store. He is very knowledgeable and personable.
He brought with him a Clearaudio Goldfinger cartridge. He installed it in the room's AMG turnstable's tone-arm. It replaced a very good Clearaudio cartridge, that was a bit lower down their line (the Goldfinger is their flagship cartridge).
I had heard that AMG turntable before and after the cartridge change. That Goldfinger cartridge is really good. Yes, it is expensive. But you are going to get a lot for that $$.
What a cool place Thomas and cool people (Jay) too!!!
The engineering on the design of that turn table looks wicked cool.
Looks like a wicked trip!
I'm way to far away in AB to visit...doh!
Btw Thomas. I absolutely love your reviews. They are down to earth with no pretence. Real life and honest.
Thanks, I really try to make it down to earth chatting with a friend and I involve a lot of people in the background to make sure my assessment is as 'true' as possible.
As always, you are honest and transparent, and you are aware of differences in taste, and always describe the listening experience in ways I have never heard before. Very educational, I have learned things about my own system, but even more importantly, you simplified my life when I was shopping for equipment. I was impressed that you put the time stamp up so people could skip to the turntable review. You didn't want to waste people's time, (but I heard it all). But I also note how careful you are not to ever appear to be selling. Your reviews could be on the App "Calm", because of your relaxed style, which is folksy with a Canadian, Asian (Hong Kong?) accent, LOL.
Thanks for the compliment! I am glad that you guys find it interesting enough to comment on the video.
Thanks for the video Thomas. Nice store. I never knew that the top of the table floated like that. Now I see the need for the pendulum! I think that the Sabrina's would be a better match for your room. They were too small for that room, that's why the larger Wilson's worked better in there.
WOW!!! thats one crazy turntable..... and here I thought my friends KRONOS was craziest of all.....
It's my belief that people that buy equipment like this don't buy to actually listen to music but more as a statement and look what I got that you don't type of thing
Hey, look at my turntable, it costs more than your life!! Lol . Seriously though , awesome equipment!
If you could afford a Clearaudio Statement would you buy a Project Debut? Do you doubt the Statement is a superior source component?
Simply Beautiful........., good one Thomas.
O_oh!.
You kept talking about how that turntable was worth more than your car, that turntable is worth more than my parents house!
Nice turntable, added 1 to my basket.
My 1980s vintage Denon DP-59L turntable has all of the same displays and controls, lol.
I'm sure yours sounds exactly the same
Progressive Guy, rotating a disc and dragging a needle isn’t rocket science brother. There aren’t that many variables. The Denon is over-built, dead silent, perfectly accurate and upgraded with Mogami interconnects, and high end capacitors. It probably sounds and works better! And, I’d bet it’s more reliable lol.
Hi. audio excellence is the Hifi shop I go to in Wales.👍😀
Hi Thomas thanks for the video love it
Thanks Thomas, Great video & Jay has a new subscriber.
Thanks for the video, a lot of cool stuff there to drool over.
Yeah, anything I take from that store I will be happy!
Hi Thomas, it was great meeting you at the Montreal audio show. It would be great to meet for an audio listening morning or evening.
Sure, email me at turbotan@gmail.com
Small but nice. I haven't seen that much Hi End since my trip to Japan. Bullet proof? You'd need a forklift to pick up that TT.
Actually it comes in 3 different crates and then a forklift lol !
Jay is an amazing reviewer too
Hey Thomas, find a friend that has Raidho Acoustics D5.1 and do the video review and sound demo on them. You know, I was always very skeptical about high end audio but since you showed us the Raidho D3, I become curios and listened to some of the sound demos Raidho here on RUclips with my IE800 and omg, D5.1 it pulls my heart everytime I listen to the demos. Please if you can make a review and demo. I am sure one of friends of your friends has them. Cheers.
The problem with the D5.1 is the size. My friend was considering upgrading his D3 to the D4.1 but size was the problem. If you were able to hear it in person, you will see that the speed on those speakers are amazing. The bass coming out of those diamond woofers are punchy and lighting fast. If you ever go to an audioshow, you will find the same feel with the Magico high end speakers too because they also use diamond woofers.
@@ThomasAndStereo: Thanks Thomas. I am considering selling my house to buy the D5.1 speakers. You got me into it. ;-). But please, if friends of you friends have them just give us a video tour and review them. I would say your reviews are the best on the net.
The best turntable in the world?
By jove i would say it is and matter of fact i've got three, one in my main listening room, one in the Kitchen and one in the bathroom. Excessive to be sure but at least I always have the finest in analog playback no matter what i'm doing around the house.
All jokes aside i recently bought a concept as my new tt and its beautifully made and sounds great.
Woah!... AAAAA+++++
This sounded GREAT even through your Iphone recording Thomas! Absolutely magic sound, thanks for doing that video and, thank You to your friend / subscriber / salesman who was kind enough to explain the complexity of this impressive bit of German engineering.
Gosh...that is why I keep away from dealership showrooms.. it gets too tempting to start spending 'silly' money on the hobby..
One of the most adventurous and fun videos you've made so far young man!.. WELL DONE!
Thanks, if you never checked out my adelphi video, it's similar.
ruclips.net/video/6jQvwzqriV8/видео.html
What a great thing to have fans all over the world opening secret doors for you Thomas 😀
I can appreciate all the ingenuityand expertise put in onto that incredible turntable but its just too much for me. My Technics are good enough i think.
Yeah, I think the purpose of a statement piece is just to make a statement. So, I am sure it's possible to get very close to it's performance for significantly less. But that is not the point of a statement piece :)
that's worth more than my house , better looking too 😂😂😂
yeah, to buy a house or a turntable....
@@ThomasAndStereo "Honey, did you close on the house?"... " Not exactly, but we have a righteous turntable"
I like this video.
Super cool
Hey Thomas!
I see that they have a pair of Audio Physic speakers there that I really think you should listen to. Don't know if you have listened to Audio Physic earlier but they are german speakers and are really good! You really should test them. My favorite among their speakers is the "TEMPO PLUS" or "Tempo 25 Plus+" I think you would like them. It´s a must try! ;)
Thanks for the suggestion. I did audition some entry level Audio Physics, well they were about $10k , and I remember they were bass heavy which I was surprised given their lean size. Maybe next time when I visit Jay :)
Jay has a new subscriber ; )
Awesomeeee !
Wow. Crazy turntable
I like the look and yup, crazy turntable.
Hi Thomas.
Your videos are great and informative and very interesting!
I encountered a review on youtube claiming that 250$ DAC is just as good as 2000$ and on a blind test its impossibe to guess what DAC is currently playing because they sound equally good.
Would you accept the challange and film a video of a blind (!) test of some well reviewed DAC as the qutest (priced 1900$ now) vs a cheaper one like geshelli enog2 (priced 250$ now)?
Any result will be super enlightening!
Thank you and best regards!
Well, I think those people who tried it absolutely believe what they say and I am not here to discredit them. My experience tells me there is a difference and you do need a high end system to be really able to tell the difference. I would say just buy what you can afford comfortably and don't think about it much. I would just say, the higher end ones sound more analog than the budget one. I gone thru over 10 dacs at difference price point.
@@ThomasAndStereo I have to say that discredit anybody is not my intention by no means.
It makes sence that you need a good system to hear better the differences between DACs but I was pretty sure that one of the best modern DACs for the money that costs 1900$ (qutes) will sound better then 250$ DAC even on a low end hi-fi.
By the way, the most analog digital source I heard is the Luxman d-06 CD player. Not a cheap CD :)
That is one great tt........I have the concept tt and enjoy 😊 it
Best turntable is whatever Peter Brueneger likes the best this month.
For when you need to listen to records in a high speed boat chase
Thomas, it’s a great store. Not far from home. Next time you in Toronto, check out American Sound and stop by my place. Cheers
Ah. I already filmed it..upcoming video someday :)
yeah, i should come make a video of your system!
Let me know when. Love to hear your thoughts and tips. How do you do private message through youtube??
turbotan@gmail.com. As long as I am not traveling with my family, I can absolutely drop by and check our your place!
Believe it or don't, but a childhood chum who now lives in one of Manhattan's newer slip-formed reinforced-concrete supertall stilts is adamant that his CA Statement is in some way susceptible to mechanical resonance from the building itself - and, somehow, from the building's tuned-mass damper many floors above - both of which ostensibly cause a spurious low-freq foghorn-sounding artifact.
As if this didn't seem delusional enough, he followed up by swearing on a stack of Bibles (just like 3rd Grade) that the salesman, on a visit to follow up the installation of the CAS (and after more than a few single-malt refreshments), actually responded in the affirmative to his complaint by stating that other clients who lived in these new supertall reinforced-concrete buildings had the same problem, and then suggested that my pal should "go to Home Depot" and "get some of those foam noise-suppression panels" in order to "damp it out," and, if that didn't work, to ask the building management to blow acoustic foam into the pipe races and utility spaces closest to his residence.
I was about to ask him if he or the sycophantic salesman had any idea how this supposed infrasonic structural groaning was inducing his CAS to make like the Nantucket Lightship, but then I remembered that this guy also had, decades ago, a paving brick atop his Rotel CD Player - and that he'd painted the circumferences of all his CDs with matt green model paint.
-When the Emperor says it is midnight at noon, the wise men reply "Behold, the stars!"
Regards,
Kev
ps.
I seem to recall that the brick was supposed to suppress any vibration reaching the CD player, acting as a cost-free alternative to mechanical isolation - and that the green nail polish was believed to absorb and redirect any scattered laser light, thus improving the signal.
pps.
I never fell for any of this nonsense, although I confess I tried to sharpen razor blades in a pasteboard pyramid.
-K.
looks like it's about to take off
Thomas did you try those D'Agostino Momentum M400 monoblock and the Momentum HD Preamp? How was it?
No, I would have like to but decided to spent the time filming instead of listening :(
Oh you where in Toronto! Too bad would love to meet you. I guess next time..
Yeah, I usually drop by Markham. If I drop by next time without family, then sure.
Fantastic technology. It would probably keep playing through an earthquake.
Oops, I guess he made the earthquake comment already. lol.
At that price, it better be able to played thru an apocalypse!
@@ThomasAndStereo I love the heavy metal pendulum on it. I never would have thought of that feature on a turntable. Maybe a gyroscope. haha.
For me the tt3 signature turntable and Kronos are the very best, way more exciting and real. I personally think that too many turntables in the business sound like VPI; being to overly polite and nice, lacking smash factor and grunt and ultra resolution. Many turntables are just very safe and dialed back in sound.
WOW ! 👍
Thomas what is your opinion on the Wilson speakers as compare to your canton. As i mentioned before Wilson and Vandersteen speakers were frequently used by vendors to show case their gear at the Munich HiFi shows.
Hard to really say because there was a lot of room for these Wilson unlike my place. Of course, these sounded better than my Canton, the bass alone on these will impress you. I do wish it was faster the bass on these Wilson like the Raidho but that is me nick picking. I like the sound signature of these Wilson, my type of sound.
Great stuff, thanks Thomas. I wonder, does the turntable automatically track, or do you have to set the tracking speed manually for each record? That seems like a bit of an inconvenience.
Good question, if I were to guess, it should be very simple to operate, at $200k, it should make coffee for you on top of playing Vinyl.
@@ThomasAndStereo If you can afford that turntable, I expect you'd have your very own barista. Kudos to those who can!
Best Turntables comes from Transrotor & Clearaudio both Maker’s are the Benchmark of High End Reference in Mid- and Higher Price Segment
I saw my friend Vilip in the video!
Holy cow the pendulum! Lol. Thanks for the cheesecake.
Nice video Thomas! What do you think about the sabrina compare with the focal kanta 2?
I would say sabrina has more oomf while the kanta 2 has more detail
It's hard to say without doing an AB test in the same room. Just like that, I find the Kanta has better top end but for long listening session, the Sabrina might be better.
The Next Best Thing Studio thank you for the answer, what a nice channel that you have!! I’m subscribing right now!
Thomas & Stereo thank you Thomas!! I also think maybe the sabrina is a league above the kanta 2, the sopra 2 is maybe more in the same level as the sabrina.
@@rezadwiarianto9511 awesomeee
That is a shreer insanity !!
That whole system costs more than my recording studio - yikes 😀
Wonderful to see though 👍
yeah, just fun to see what's out there. So they made 100 only i think.
@@ThomasAndStereo
Absolutely. I meant the whole system which I'm guessing costs over £million ?
nah, probably around $300k cdn together. They used an integrated mcintosh ma8900 with it. The sacha were about $50k
@@ThomasAndStereo
Not as expensive as I thought, Thomas.
In many respects then, the philosophy (thinking) behind this system is 'old school' i.e. max out on the front end as the amp and speakers will only reproduce the signal they receive.
Nice place.
Really funny coincidence, I´m actually subscribed to both channels :) Now I get how is he able to get that super-high end headphones he reviews!
I actually buy those. Lol
@@Jayiyagi Orly? Thought you´d borrow them from the store. Lucky you! :)
@@Miskatonik well sometimes. But rarely since the store doesnt carry every headphone ! Also the store is not big with headphones, more stereo !
This $200,000 turntable,how fast does it spin the record at? Oh 33.3 RPM I see.Same as my PL115D.Overkill,big time.
try JUST the DEVIALET Phantom GOLD ones (stereo) The silver and the basic versions are not that amazing
Yeah, that is what others have told me too.
What you think of the Wilson Speakers overall?
I prefer the Sacha way more than the Sabrina. Jay chose specific tracks to showcase the power of the bass and it did deliver. I like the sound of the speakers as it falls into the category of speakers I like. It had authority and it could have even better with more power. The 8900 mcintosh was pushed to the limit as we were looking at the meters and it was maxed out. It still sounded good though. Not bright, not slow, they got many things right.
Thomas & Stereo By the way are you going to EXPONA next week? I’ll be attending
Nah, I live in Montreal Canada so too far for me.
They are NOT bookshelf speakers! They are standmount speakers.
I doubt anyone would be buying speakers of this quality and ruining their sound by putting them on a bookshelf.
Enjoy your vids.
Actually, they ARE bookshelf speakers. Wilson Audio designed these specifically to go onto bookshelves or a table. The Wilson Duette is their standmount speaker, the TuneTot is really a bookshelf. From their website on the TuneTot page :
« Environmental music systems are increasingly part of contemporary lifestyles. Another ground-breaking Special Applications product, the Wilson Audio Duette, successfully addressed the challenges caused by near boundary placement. Placing a loudspeaker on a desktop, bookshelf, counter top, or a credenza has meant accepting serious sonic compromises. Interactions and resonances from the furniture or shelf on which the loudspeaker rests are a source of audible distortion and colorations-deleterious factors most loudspeaker designers simply accept. The Wilson Way™ demanded a new look at the problem.
The Special Applications Engineering team spent months researching the interactions between TuneTot and the surface upon which it is installed. It quickly became clear that assumptions surrounding environmental resonance control needed to be re-examined. For these installations, the challenges presented are very different from what exists for a typical floor-standing loudspeaker spiked to the floor-problems that require a different strategy. A series of accessories were developed specifically to address furniture-born resonances endemic to these types of installations.»
Aaaah! Looking at turntables.. don’t do it! You’ll love it:)
I recently did another AB test with a turntable and Dac, yeah for me tuntable is more my kind of sound.
People are spending many thousands of dollars to make their records sound as good as a cheap tape deck...
Jelous because you can't afford this?
I’d love to compare that Clearaudio TT to my VPI Classic 3. Same cartridge. See what the difference is. I have nothing against expensive equipment- I’ve owned fairly expensive components in the past. I think most criticism of high end stuff comes from jealousy.
You should really use a crosley player! That’s what the real professionals use.
The one your looking at with the weights is $200k+
Panzerholz, you can get very creative with the German language.
The problem with this type of design is in the bearing. Since you can't have a traditional "stick in a hole" bearing with a thrust pad meets ball end, this turntable needs the shaft to go through the hole to hold the bottom platter so it has to resort to angular contact bearing which is a kind of bearing that requires multiple balls in circular arrangement that ends up creating more noise. You practically lose the simplicity and elegance of a single ball bearing. And since it's driven by magnetic field, which is compliant, it's like having an extra rubber belt in a belt drive turntable. And it would create another lag time which can smear the sound and timing. At least in the EAR Disc Master turntable, it uses gear belt to avoid extra elasticity. The selling point is a non-contact bearing but it actually created more problems over traditional bearing than realized. It's Rube Goldberg and it's a visual monstrosity. No thanks! Peter Suchy hasn't come up with one single original idea without copying someone else!
No negative comments, no negative comment, who do you work for??????????????????
I work for Mr. courtesy.
@@ThomasAndStereo You do not know what the truth is do you? What about a concise history of Chinese High Fidelity from say the late fifties
@@wilfredmay5231 It's ok, this is a hifi channel where we have fun. There are other platforms for you to go debate about whatever if that is what you enjoy.
The mass of the platter does not have anything to do with any potential vibration.
Hello Thomas hope you're doing well I love high-end audio but that is just ridiculous I think even if you have a billion dollars it's foolish to buy that that's my opinion obviously
Yup yup, just for fun :)
Thomas I love high and stuff but that's just ridiculous I think even if you had a billion dollars it's just foolish to spend that much money on it that's my opinion obviously
Well, definitely for the 0.000000000001%. Yup I get it.
There is 100 of these. Can you believe that? XD
Just because it's noncontact drive does not mean it is not compromised. The platter now cannot employ the traditional stick-in-hole type of bearing and must use some form of angular contact bearing to allow the shaft to protrude to hold the bottom platter. Traditional turntables have a shaft with a ball point contact. The Statement bearing now has multiple pressure contact points. You're trading one thing for another. Just like any physics in the universe, there's no free lunch.
The magnetic force is to replace the belt but belt and magnetic field are compliant. So you have a belt drive table driving another platter via magnetic force, so it's compliance on top of compliance. How is that speed stable? Not impressed.
I have no idea but maybe they have something in their brochure to answer some of the questions? I am pretty sure stable speed is their top priority?
I am sure there's a servo or speed sensor system in place for a turntable of that price. But it's inelegant. It appears most audiophile turntables are about the shiny platter and the decorated plinth but audiophiles hardly pay attention to the motor. In fact most of them employ a $20 toy motor!
Sasha Daw!
The best? No...not even close!. The most outragiously bling outragiously space swallowing "look at me" TTs, but best sounding? No way! The better decks and mostly likely better value are ones including the older EMT transcrisption decks, new acoustic signature decks, the TW Raven, and the more expensive Airforce 1 and Continium decks. Oh....Panzerholst is not bullet proof unless really thick. A 6.5 or 30 cal would rip through several inches of it but thats nothing to do with audio.
Not impressed. All of this kit I've probably heard. None of it would be what I'd spend that sort of money on especially the speakers. Sophias are ok but the watt puppies are boomy and disjointed. This is a bling system that could be bettered at half the cost! Meant in the nicest possible way!
The best? Really..? Have you heard a Kronos Sparta or even a rockport turntable? You should hear a properly set up idler wheel turntable such as a Lenco or Garrard before claiming the best. I am surprised you have not listened to a Jean Nantais Lenco turntable...he is located in Ottawa.
There is always something 'better' so that is why it is a question and not a statement.
Klirraudio 😀
Super expensive audio gear is a complete waste of money .... Audio equipment is CHEAP to manufacture
You gotta be kidding
Sometimes simple is better. Way to much TT...
That’s the ugliest dishwasher I’ve ever seen.
overkill, just invest that $ and retire early....
If you can afford this TT, you can retired a long time ago and have enough money to spend for many lifetimes.
What a waste of money ,making a simple thing so complicated