@ArielCleirigh not always. You can't just ask devs to ruin their world building to make super model level eye candy for you, look I want to see hot characters in games just as much as the next guy but you know somethings gone too far when people are mad that Angela from silent hill 2 isn't hot
@@richardhunter9779in what ways? Because I didn’t notice because I was busy slaying demons not worrying about political messaging in a game about brutally slaying hordes of demons
@@richardhunter9779 Doom 2016 and Eternal had...critiques of far left policy? Were the demons trying to raise taxes on the rich? Seize the means of production? Unionize the UAC? If a tiny bit of political commentary could be pulled from the games, it is being critical of ultra-capitalistic corporations stopping at nothing to extract resources and profits. They drilled *Hell* for energy and still they didn't stop. And when Hell broke out on Mars, Dr. Hayden was still trying to save the project because Earth needed the energy that the UAC was extracting from Hell.
A big reason as to why these opinions fly everywhere on X/Twitter is because they have monetary incentive to do so. Outrageous opinions gets a lot of interactions, that via twitter blue gets them money. The amount of engagement bots/farms with huge pages is insane. It makes it hard to spot the real freaks who actually hold those opinions vs those who just want to hussle some money on the side for low effort.
This is what happens when you only point out things you don't like rather than properly articulate what you do want. You amass a following of people with no common ground, just mutual disdain that would turn on one another in an instant. It very interesting watching the anti-woke community at each others throats because some are worried games will become soft-core goonerbait and their former allies are calling them pro-censorship. It interesting how derisive an arguably meaningless squabble could derail a movement.
I feel that there are some gamers out there that think if a female character doesn't match up to those in say, Stellar Blade, then they are ugly. That actually says more about those particular gamers than anything else (unrealistic, delusional, etc).
Yeah, liking the types of characters in Stellar Blade or unrealistic characters in other games is totally fine but it becomes a problem when you want all characters to look like that. Like no that's not how it works, hunt for those games with those types of characters but let others have their own flavor
You have to understand them. These characters, for people like them, were the only form of interaction with female they ever had. At least they want them to be pretty 😅 There is no problem with liking this type of design but crying about many other games not wanting that style is wild 😂
@@diamondheadify-v5iPretty sure you're being sarcastic, but as a delivery driver in a small town in Ohio, I see extremely attractive people (not just women) all the time.
3:00 when you're trying to get your character to do something that's physically impossible to do, then yeah the animation isn't going to look quite right.
The kind of person that Follows Grummz, is the exact same type of person they claim they are 'fighting' against. They want all games to adhere to a specific set of standards to reinforce their beliefs. They dont just want a good a game, they want a good game that they approve of.
I've said this before and I'll say it again. The pendulum swings. The further in one way it goes, the more violently and with force it swings in the other direction. That's why people need to be careful what they push for and how hard. Because the harder you do, the bigger the backlash will be. If you make kneejerk arguments, the opposition will too. We've been in the "fuck around" phase for several years, and now we're in the "find out" phase. and it's just as ugly, as expected. Eye for an eye may make the world go blind, and fighting fire with fire will burn the whole thing down, but on the internet, there are no eyes, and nothing to burn.
idk if i would call it trolling - i think they are intentionally exaggerating their views for sure, but people who do and say things ironically bc they want attention eventually end up doing and saying those things because they in some way they've started to believe them unironically.
Making these arguments for nonsense...only diminishes the same points when they are ACTUALLY warranted. Which makes me think people are intentionally being strawmen for the 15 min of fame...or are just purely unhinged. It's wild how tribal everything is. You can't have legit critique and a civil discourse about it, without some marketing circus.
This is why i had to leave edgelord humor behind, too many people actually believe in crazy stuff now so i cant really joke about it because too many people will think im not really meming. Also, ive met too many people in real life that actually believe all this stuff while working construction for the past 15 years for me to assume its a meme anymore either. I feel like people who sequestor themselves off with the white collar part of society (typically the more educated part of society, people who work in offices where office politics is more prevailant) and havent had enough exposure to those of us in the more blue and red collar side (generally lower skilled and labour intensive work) that they dont really understand lol like no man, a ton of people actually believe all this stuff to their core, you dont have to interact with them long enough to get a full idea of their belief system
I think it's a very elaborate ironic crusade he's on , I kid you not , I've blocked him but everyday I go to x to see what he's posted and it's the best time of the day for me I laugh my ass off
jeez i just looked at his profile, I don't think Luke needs to even ponder the question if he spent 5s on the dudes profile. Life and gaming is so simple when you proceed to no longer pay these people attention.
The account he read the DOOM post from, that guy might not be an actual incel but he definitely acts like one. I hate this nonsensical argument of "there can only be games with straight male protagonists and females in the game have to be bodaciously hot". Maybe the game you seem to hate are played by others that aren't into action heavy games? Many of these other games fail cause they are simply bad, like DA Veilguard or Concord. But others like KCD2 are going to be great by everything we have seen about it till now.
I only imagine people who call this ugly want the women to look like a mod for Skyrim/Fallout. Milky-skinned sleek supermodels that look completely out of place.
it's teens and kids who have been fucked by social media and the internet since birth. I find it hilarious that the people who can't recognize obvious IA images of people (although they are gonna get to the point no one can differentiate anymore) are old geezers and young people lol
@@RHaenJarr it’s not just about attractiveness. That character isn’t ugly, but she’s not very feminine either. What we aren’t getting from western developers is female characters who are attractively feminine.
@@thecasualoblivion yeah bro, when I saw that woman from warhammer 40k didn't all look like eve from steller blade I knew that the west was doomed fr fr
"Tell me you've only seen women on tiktok without telling me you've only seen women on tiktok" That woman is gorgeous, it's just that some people are so brainwashed by insanely beautiful standards or porn that any half step under that counts as "ugly" Having zero experience with the opposite sex also doesn't help. Yes i'm calling the dude maidenless, blind and virgin.(not that being one is bad, it's just a joke)
I have seen a similar thing with the Worth A Buy channel. He has garnered a large following off the whole "anti-woke" grift, but his audience has turned on him because he loves KCD2, which is apparently now a "woke" game 😆.
Nothing wrong with Fable. Fable has never been a series about being 'sexy.' It's a series about being a weird dork who mutates into a horrific monster. Back to Twitter, tourist.
@@chococoooh3670They are obviously saying it’s easy to make light of a bad example of the subject you are discussing. Now let’s see you dismiss a good example.
I don't like woke stuff and I'm pretty conservative. I don't see a problem with this woman, and I think she's attractive. I thought the perfect dark chick looked attractive and ciri looks fine to me as well. I have a wide range of what I think is attractive. I think the stellar blade look is hot, but also the older woman with experience look is hot to me as well.
I don't think they're trolling. I forget what the term is but if someone has convinced themselves of a certain worldview, then they will find that in everything no matter how small.
Confirmation bias - they’re so convinced they’re right they subconsciously interpret things in ways that agree with them. Combined with stubbornness, it can make someone very difficult to convince that they’re wrong even if there’s an abundance of clear evidence showing that’s the case.
For me, any person that needs to be validated by the 'tribe' has some kind of mental disorder. I know to build society all of us (or at least the majority) need to agree in certain points, but other than that, being dependent on the group, even for your personal preferences, is weird. I don't know, have always been an outcast. Ism's are foreign to me, maybe cause I never belong to any group.
I mean after how people reacted to Ciris reveal from witcher 4…. its hard to tell between trolls and real opinions, because the reactions were absolutely pathetic imo.
Well, there is a thing a wanna ask, not related to the topic of video, is there a specific reason why r u using 2 sets of keyboards & mouses? why not kvm switch?
It's like the people who want SO badly for cdpr to be an awful company that makes garbage games, but like, they haven't yet? (cyberpunk launch not withstanding)
Same people saying that Rebel Wolves has all the good talent, yet Phantom Liberty was made without those people, and it was one of the best things CDPR has made. Don’t get me wrong i’m excited for dawnwalker as well and it looks amazing! but lets not pretend that current CDPR hasn’t made awesome stuff.
@@54syqe yeah that, and its not to say witcher 4 wont be bad but the only thing that cdpr has made me expect is a great game that will probably be buggy when it comes out.
@@bennyweimer2345agreed, i remember witcher 3 was buggy as hell on release, and lets not forget the graphics downgrade controversy at the time. Witcher 4 is many years away so we’ll have to wait and see how that goes, to me a dev is as good as their last release, phantom liberty was their last release, so i’m optomistic that witcher 4 will be a great game, but who knows it could turn out to be a real fumble, lets hope not.
He's honestly just a troll account making posts to get as much attention and engagement as possible. Even Grummz can have nuanced takes once in a while, that guy is just pure nonsense.
Games are more and more using facial capture of real living actors. Recent female characters aren't being masculinized; previous female characters were being over-feminized. Games are going away from overly feminized women characters to naturalistic women characters. The women characters you think are the norm are, in fact, not the norm.
Not really. In many big budget Western games the male characters resemble their actual models while the female characters tend to look off. So they're not consistent with regards to their faithfulness to the model's likeness in many cases.
i know sometime people go over the limit but why youtuber always defend this type of character from some random people talking about on twitter but when the game journalist crying to ban a character like eve from Stellar Blade why youtuber like you don't even talk about it. that's the reason people thing you are with those type people.
Capcon an Square are more woke tnow than they used to be, cause they are following western companies behavior. If Not Where are those games as GOW Greek saga from western devs, where???
you've made some shitty takes yourself. remember when you blatantly lied in a review of gotham knights? i dont think these are the type of videos you should make but hey
Ugly or not, I'm surprised that Doom will have a story with actual characters this time. As for AC, Ubisoft always had pretty bad animations in their games. So, while exaggerated, those people do have some points, albeit their examples are poor.
Just compare the female models from eastern devs with the in game model, it's almost identical. Now compared with female models from western devs, the woman is constantly less attractive. Fable , new perfect Dark, Star wars outlaw, horizon, mass effect Andromeda ect..
You are the kind of guy that psychology students are assigned to study to see what happened in your childhood. There needs to be a proper school to train guys these days lol. It's obvious that no woman have ever loved you, not even your own mother, and they never will. This is what desperate loneliness looks like.
Two things, there’s some nuance to this. People are upset over female video game characters being unattractive, but additionally people are upset about female video game characters being made too masculine. The girl in the example isn’t unattractive, but she isn’t attractive in a feminine way. It was the same with the girl from GTA VI. It’s not that she’s ugly but that she’s too masculine.
@@bingusdingus39 depends on if it’s an act of hostility/disrespect from the developers. With how often it’s happening and with what devs are saying on Twitter/Bluesky, you start to notice things.
"She's too masculine" is an entirely personal preference. She's clearly within the realm of what would be considered attractive by a tonne of people. Creators shouldn't have their work slandered for not catering to someone's tastes. This is as bad as the people who are ultra-offended by Marvel Rivals' using sexy character designs. And in both cases, each side relies on a bespoke array of anecdotes (falsely labelled as evidence) to back up their claim that an individual example is something sinister (applying a general to a specific is bad logic), throwing out the agency and interests of the creators in the process. I guarantee that Stellar Blade and Rivals have done far more to promote attractive character designs than the totality of all internet complaints about characters not being attractive enough, because what people want to buy - whether it be games or skins - is ultimately what matters.
@ the thing is that it’s not just one game. It’s pretty much every game that comes out of western devs these days. If it was just the one instance it wouldn’t be a big deal.
You are the kind of guy that psychology students are assigned to study to see what happened in your childhood. There needs to be a proper school to train guys these days lol. It's obvious that no woman have ever loved you, not even your own mother, and they never will. This is what desperate loneliness looks like...
Grown men who obsess over the 'sexiness' of imaginary characters are very, very odd. There's no shortage of Korean/Chinese live service titles they can play full of ultra sexualized 'waifus', I'm not sure why they're trying to censor devs who don't like those designs.
This was like when the second Horizon game came out and people were complaining about Aloy being 'ugly' and I was just like ' nah her face seems more realistic and less game character now' There are cases where character designers have made characters look a certain way to try and dissuade the 'male gaze' and have made characters look worse in doing so. Harley from the Arkham series into Kill the Justice League for instance. Or do it at the start but the DOOM Dark Ages lady doesn't look like that's the case, so it's a case of people just being blind and dumb.
It’s a disingenuous attempt to minimize and dissuade from reality. They can make all the ugly woman as protagonists they want. I’m still happy playing Skyrim so it doesn’t confront me. Get woke, go broke.
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Love how the internet has become one massive updated version of “hot or not”
Smash or Pass
Well if companies want to Sell, better be hot.
@@ArielCleirigh heard a lot of dumb shit on the internet. You take the crown though
@ArielCleirigh not always. You can't just ask devs to ruin their world building to make super model level eye candy for you, look I want to see hot characters in games just as much as the next guy but you know somethings gone too far when people are mad that Angela from silent hill 2 isn't hot
@ Sure pal thats why Concord or DA Veilguard are a success right?
The doom woke crap is an absolute grift
The whole doom thing is so dumb and such a non-issue
Watch the game then contain critique of far-left policy like 2016 and Eternal did.
@@richardhunter9779in what ways? Because I didn’t notice because I was busy slaying demons not worrying about political messaging in a game about brutally slaying hordes of demons
@@richardhunter9779 Doom 2016 and Eternal had...critiques of far left policy? Were the demons trying to raise taxes on the rich? Seize the means of production? Unionize the UAC?
If a tiny bit of political commentary could be pulled from the games, it is being critical of ultra-capitalistic corporations stopping at nothing to extract resources and profits. They drilled *Hell* for energy and still they didn't stop. And when Hell broke out on Mars, Dr. Hayden was still trying to save the project because Earth needed the energy that the UAC was extracting from Hell.
A big reason as to why these opinions fly everywhere on X/Twitter is because they have monetary incentive to do so. Outrageous opinions gets a lot of interactions, that via twitter blue gets them money. The amount of engagement bots/farms with huge pages is insane. It makes it hard to spot the real freaks who actually hold those opinions vs those who just want to hussle some money on the side for low effort.
this is pretty much everywhere on the internet since forever.
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This is what happens when you only point out things you don't like rather than properly articulate what you do want. You amass a following of people with no common ground, just mutual disdain that would turn on one another in an instant. It very interesting watching the anti-woke community at each others throats because some are worried games will become soft-core goonerbait and their former allies are calling them pro-censorship. It interesting how derisive an arguably meaningless squabble could derail a movement.
I feel that there are some gamers out there that think if a female character doesn't match up to those in say, Stellar Blade, then they are ugly. That actually says more about those particular gamers than anything else (unrealistic, delusional, etc).
Yeah, liking the types of characters in Stellar Blade or unrealistic characters in other games is totally fine but it becomes a problem when you want all characters to look like that. Like no that's not how it works, hunt for those games with those types of characters but let others have their own flavor
You have to understand them. These characters, for people like them, were the only form of interaction with female they ever had. At least they want them to be pretty 😅
There is no problem with liking this type of design but crying about many other games not wanting that style is wild 😂
They literally have jaws like East German shot putters.
Some people claimed there were plenty of much more beatiful women than BG3 Shadowheart wherever they lived, after all.
As someone who lives in a working class neighborhood, I can confirm there are plenty hot supermodels walking around my streets 😂
@@StNerevar76 Shadowheart is the sort of attractive that makes a bad first impression but grows on you over time.
Yeah, and they'll never get a single one of them to look their way 😂
@@diamondheadify-v5iPretty sure you're being sarcastic, but as a delivery driver in a small town in Ohio, I see extremely attractive people (not just women) all the time.
thing is the line between real and bait is very thin nowadays
3:00 when you're trying to get your character to do something that's physically impossible to do, then yeah the animation isn't going to look quite right.
The kind of person that Follows Grummz, is the exact same type of person they claim they are 'fighting' against. They want all games to adhere to a specific set of standards to reinforce their beliefs. They dont just want a good a game, they want a good game that they approve of.
Absolutely. These "anti-woke warriors" have become what they claimed to destroy.
They are the same as who they follow. Grummz is the one who stated that MHWilds is woke
The reactions to Ciri's appearance in the Witcher 4 trailer were deeply unserious. "Ugly" my ass.
I've said this before and I'll say it again. The pendulum swings.
The further in one way it goes, the more violently and with force it swings in the other direction.
That's why people need to be careful what they push for and how hard. Because the harder you do, the bigger the backlash will be.
If you make kneejerk arguments, the opposition will too. We've been in the "fuck around" phase for several years, and now we're in the "find out" phase. and it's just as ugly, as expected.
Eye for an eye may make the world go blind, and fighting fire with fire will burn the whole thing down, but on the internet, there are no eyes, and nothing to burn.
Damn, that last line of yours is beautifully poetic.
But isn't that a state we should prevent from forming in the first place? Shouldn't nuance be what we strive for?
There are pretty obvious examples of devs "uglying up" women in their games, I dont think this is one of them.
And this is the problem for being rewarded for interactions.
idk if i would call it trolling - i think they are intentionally exaggerating their views for sure, but people who do and say things ironically bc they want attention eventually end up doing and saying those things because they in some way they've started to believe them unironically.
2024 was such a good year for legit grave dancing, some folks are still chasing that high.
I've met people. I choose to avoid them in general. If I had known what I'd get into, I'd never landed on this planet.
Making these arguments for nonsense...only diminishes the same points when they are ACTUALLY warranted. Which makes me think people are intentionally being strawmen for the 15 min of fame...or are just purely unhinged. It's wild how tribal everything is. You can't have legit critique and a civil discourse about it, without some marketing circus.
This is why i had to leave edgelord humor behind, too many people actually believe in crazy stuff now so i cant really joke about it because too many people will think im not really meming. Also, ive met too many people in real life that actually believe all this stuff while working construction for the past 15 years for me to assume its a meme anymore either. I feel like people who sequestor themselves off with the white collar part of society (typically the more educated part of society, people who work in offices where office politics is more prevailant) and havent had enough exposure to those of us in the more blue and red collar side (generally lower skilled and labour intensive work) that they dont really understand lol like no man, a ton of people actually believe all this stuff to their core, you dont have to interact with them long enough to get a full idea of their belief system
I think it's a very elaborate ironic crusade he's on , I kid you not , I've blocked him but everyday I go to x to see what he's posted and it's the best time of the day for me I laugh my ass off
jeez i just looked at his profile, I don't think Luke needs to even ponder the question if he spent 5s on the dudes profile.
Life and gaming is so simple when you proceed to no longer pay these people attention.
The account he read the DOOM post from, that guy might not be an actual incel but he definitely acts like one. I hate this nonsensical argument of "there can only be games with straight male protagonists and females in the game have to be bodaciously hot". Maybe the game you seem to hate are played by others that aren't into action heavy games?
Many of these other games fail cause they are simply bad, like DA Veilguard or Concord. But others like KCD2 are going to be great by everything we have seen about it till now.
I only imagine people who call this ugly want the women to look like a mod for Skyrim/Fallout. Milky-skinned sleek supermodels that look completely out of place.
it's teens and kids who have been fucked by social media and the internet since birth. I find it hilarious that the people who can't recognize obvious IA images of people (although they are gonna get to the point no one can differentiate anymore) are old geezers and young people lol
@@RHaenJarr it’s not just about attractiveness. That character isn’t ugly, but she’s not very feminine either. What we aren’t getting from western developers is female characters who are attractively feminine.
@@thecasualoblivion brother it’s a DOOM game
@@thecasualoblivion yeah bro, when I saw that woman from warhammer 40k didn't all look like eve from steller blade I knew that the west was doomed fr fr
@@wunnamadam7679I don’t see why a Doom game means that the women should look like dudes, attractive or not.
"Tell me you've only seen women on tiktok without telling me you've only seen women on tiktok"
That woman is gorgeous, it's just that some people are so brainwashed by insanely beautiful standards or porn that any half step under that counts as "ugly"
Having zero experience with the opposite sex also doesn't help.
Yes i'm calling the dude maidenless, blind and virgin.(not that being one is bad, it's just a joke)
I have seen a similar thing with the Worth A Buy channel. He has garnered a large following off the whole "anti-woke" grift, but his audience has turned on him because he loves KCD2, which is apparently now a "woke" game 😆.
I feel like most of this is rage baiting. He has a twitter checkmark he's probably just farming engagement
now talk about fable!
He did. Multiple times. And he finds it as stupid as this. Your point ?
Nothing wrong with Fable. Fable has never been a series about being 'sexy.' It's a series about being a weird dork who mutates into a horrific monster. Back to Twitter, tourist.
@@chococoooh3670They are obviously saying it’s easy to make light of a bad example of the subject you are discussing.
Now let’s see you dismiss a good example.
@@mrmagoo-i2lName one good example that isn't Star Wars Outlaws.
There aren't any, at least if you're not arguing in bad faith.
I saw him tweeting a lot about KCD2 :D
I don't like woke stuff and I'm pretty conservative. I don't see a problem with this woman, and I think she's attractive. I thought the perfect dark chick looked attractive and ciri looks fine to me as well. I have a wide range of what I think is attractive. I think the stellar blade look is hot, but also the older woman with experience look is hot to me as well.
Yeah for sure but I think Luke is trying to hand wave the overall pattern of masculinized female characters in Western games as well.
I don't think they're trolling. I forget what the term is but if someone has convinced themselves of a certain worldview, then they will find that in everything no matter how small.
Confirmation bias - they’re so convinced they’re right they subconsciously interpret things in ways that agree with them.
Combined with stubbornness, it can make someone very difficult to convince that they’re wrong even if there’s an abundance of clear evidence showing that’s the case.
For me, any person that needs to be validated by the 'tribe' has some kind of mental disorder. I know to build society all of us (or at least the majority) need to agree in certain points, but other than that, being dependent on the group, even for your personal preferences, is weird. I don't know, have always been an outcast. Ism's are foreign to me, maybe cause I never belong to any group.
I mean after how people reacted to Ciris reveal from witcher 4…. its hard to tell between trolls and real opinions, because the reactions were absolutely pathetic imo.
Well, there is a thing a wanna ask, not related to the topic of video, is there a specific reason why r u using 2 sets of keyboards & mouses? why not kvm switch?
or if it is for gaming & streamer pcs, there is like keyboard switches, which is way more cheaper than kvm
It's like the people who want SO badly for cdpr to be an awful company that makes garbage games, but like, they haven't yet? (cyberpunk launch not withstanding)
Same people saying that Rebel Wolves has all the good talent, yet Phantom Liberty was made without those people, and it was one of the best things CDPR has made.
Don’t get me wrong i’m excited for dawnwalker as well and it looks amazing! but lets not pretend that current CDPR hasn’t made awesome stuff.
@@54syqe yeah that, and its not to say witcher 4 wont be bad but the only thing that cdpr has made me expect is a great game that will probably be buggy when it comes out.
@@bennyweimer2345agreed, i remember witcher 3 was buggy as hell on release, and lets not forget the graphics downgrade controversy at the time.
Witcher 4 is many years away so we’ll have to wait and see how that goes, to me a dev is as good as their last release, phantom liberty was their last release, so i’m optomistic that witcher 4 will be a great game, but who knows it could turn out to be a real fumble, lets hope not.
I call them the outrage mafia. It's not really about the substance of whatever the outrage is about, is just about being outraged about *something*.
isnt every take a bad take on twitter by default? Its not the town square as Elon says its the town sewer.
Funny this dude Luke should put himself on the list. I remember him complaining about the reverb when Forspoken came out 🤣
Forspoken was bad.
Dude has very high standarts😅
The grummz part is his own fault its the audience he cultivates anything for the grift
Is bro[guy with the tweet] acting like Olivia Pierce in Doom 2016 was some baddie?
He's honestly just a troll account making posts to get as much attention and engagement as possible. Even Grummz can have nuanced takes once in a while, that guy is just pure nonsense.
@Ishaan_A fair enough
You ain't gind Olivia pierce a baddy?
I get your criticism in this particular example but it would be dumb to ignore the overall pattern of masculinized female characters in Western games.
Games are more and more using facial capture of real living actors. Recent female characters aren't being masculinized; previous female characters were being over-feminized. Games are going away from overly feminized women characters to naturalistic women characters.
The women characters you think are the norm are, in fact, not the norm.
Not really. In many big budget Western games the male characters resemble their actual models while the female characters tend to look off. So they're not consistent with regards to their faithfulness to the model's likeness in many cases.
Monetisation of twitter has ruined discourse of gaming on the platform, it’s extremists on both sides
i know sometime people go over the limit but why youtuber always defend this type of character from some random people talking about on twitter but when the game journalist crying to ban a character like eve from Stellar Blade why youtuber like you don't even talk about it. that's the reason people thing you are with those type people.
there was no shortage of content creators defending Stellar Blade/ripping into game journalists
Capcon an Square are more woke tnow than they used to be, cause they are following western companies behavior. If Not Where are those games as GOW Greek saga from western devs, where???
Doom gets a pass
You hear about the male loniless epidemic and ask yourself what causes it and then you see stuff like this and you go ohhh I see
Hes not a troll
Hes a grifter. Small difference
90% of them on both sides are grifters.
you've made some shitty takes yourself. remember when you blatantly lied in a review of gotham knights? i dont think these are the type of videos you should make but hey
Ugly or not, I'm surprised that Doom will have a story with actual characters this time. As for AC, Ubisoft always had pretty bad animations in their games. So, while exaggerated, those people do have some points, albeit their examples are poor.
Just compare the female models from eastern devs with the in game model, it's almost identical.
Now compared with female models from western devs, the woman is constantly less attractive.
Fable , new perfect Dark, Star wars outlaw, horizon, mass effect Andromeda ect..
You are the kind of guy that psychology students are assigned to study to see what happened in your childhood. There needs to be a proper school to train guys these days lol. It's obvious that no woman have ever loved you, not even your own mother, and they never will. This is what desperate loneliness looks like.
@@Porter9992they peaked in middle school, they don't know any better lmao
She’s very handsome
Two things, there’s some nuance to this. People are upset over female video game characters being unattractive, but additionally people are upset about female video game characters being made too masculine. The girl in the example isn’t unattractive, but she isn’t attractive in a feminine way.
It was the same with the girl from GTA VI. It’s not that she’s ugly but that she’s too masculine.
That's cool. I like masculine women.
These two things are stupid to get mad at either way
@@bingusdingus39 depends on if it’s an act of hostility/disrespect from the developers. With how often it’s happening and with what devs are saying on Twitter/Bluesky, you start to notice things.
"She's too masculine" is an entirely personal preference. She's clearly within the realm of what would be considered attractive by a tonne of people. Creators shouldn't have their work slandered for not catering to someone's tastes. This is as bad as the people who are ultra-offended by Marvel Rivals' using sexy character designs.
And in both cases, each side relies on a bespoke array of anecdotes (falsely labelled as evidence) to back up their claim that an individual example is something sinister (applying a general to a specific is bad logic), throwing out the agency and interests of the creators in the process.
I guarantee that Stellar Blade and Rivals have done far more to promote attractive character designs than the totality of all internet complaints about characters not being attractive enough, because what people want to buy - whether it be games or skins - is ultimately what matters.
@ the thing is that it’s not just one game. It’s pretty much every game that comes out of western devs these days. If it was just the one instance it wouldn’t be a big deal.
Its not hard to make characters that dont look awful, you know.
You are the kind of guy that psychology students are assigned to study to see what happened in your childhood. There needs to be a proper school to train guys these days lol. It's obvious that no woman have ever loved you, not even your own mother, and they never will. This is what desperate loneliness looks like...
@Porter9992 Yea man, whatever you say. And through that schizophrenia riddled text, Im still right, and nothing you say will ever change that.
Grown men who obsess over the 'sexiness' of imaginary characters are very, very odd. There's no shortage of Korean/Chinese live service titles they can play full of ultra sexualized 'waifus', I'm not sure why they're trying to censor devs who don't like those designs.
This was like when the second Horizon game came out and people were complaining about Aloy being 'ugly' and I was just like ' nah her face seems more realistic and less game character now'
There are cases where character designers have made characters look a certain way to try and dissuade the 'male gaze' and have made characters look worse in doing so. Harley from the Arkham series into Kill the Justice League for instance. Or do it at the start but the DOOM Dark Ages lady doesn't look like that's the case, so it's a case of people just being blind and dumb.
Why would you think “realistic” is good in a video game character? If I wanted realistic I would go outside.
@@StoneJenk I can't get invested into a game unless it's realistic. I hate those anime looking characters. I hate anime too lol.
It’s a disingenuous attempt to minimize and dissuade from reality. They can make all the ugly woman as protagonists they want. I’m still happy playing Skyrim so it doesn’t confront me. Get woke, go broke.