If you are familiar with Bruckner the tempo here takes a bit of getting used to, but the performance is so strong overall that it becomes irresistible. Now my favourite version.
I like this performance more than any other I have heard so far. Thank you for the opportunity and the pleasure. (And no, I don't think it's too fast. :)
what a extraordinary performance! Electrifying. The very best. He makes this piece what Bruckner wanted it to be: his passport to heaven! To the greater glory of God!
Wundeschöne und spannende Aufführung dieses romantischen und perfekt komponierten Meisterwerks mit herrlichen Stimmen vierer genialen Solisten und gut harmonisierten Stimmen des ausgezeichneten Chors sowie gut vereinigten und perfekt entsprechenden Tönen aller Instrumente. Der intelligente und ebenso geniale Dirigent leitet das ausgezeichnete Orchester im relativ schnellen Tempo und mit möglichst effektiver Dynamik. Wundervoll und atemberaubend zugleich!
La más rápida de las versiones que yo conozca de esta obra maestra, sublime; dicha rapidez le saca un insólito partido, un efecto contrario al que obtenía Celibidache y que no deja de complacer... De momento, es mi versión favorita, aunque sé que volveré a Celibidache.
Endlich Ersatz für meine alten VHS-Cassetten ! Darf ich noch einige Wünsche äußern: Holst The Planets, Schumann 2, Mendelssohn 5, Beethoven Missa solemnis, alle mit Gardiner beim SHMF. Ist ja bald Weihnachten ! Vielen Dank für die bisherigen Veröffentlichungen. PS: Beethoven Violinkonzert und Brahms 1 mit Tennstedt/Kennedy.
Lieber Arne Heimann, vielen Dank zurück! Natürlich dürfen Sie sehr gern Wünsche äußern. Wir leiten sie weiter und hoffen, dass wir den ein oder anderen Mitschnitt aufstöbern und veröffentlichen können.
NDR ELBPHILARMONIE ORCHESTER , MERVEILLEUSEMENT PRODIGUX, SIR ELLIOT GARDINER, SUPERBE , BRUCKNER À GÉNIE , TE DEUM CHEF -D'ŒUVRE , MERCI DU FOND D'CŒUR !!!
I love this tempo, which shows another facet of Bruckner's works. Just my opinion, I don't see the point of dragging to a broader tempo just because of "Bruckner".
I watch this version from time to time. Also, I respect the belief of viewers who don't like fast tempo. However, my personal point of view is that the tempo of Bruckner's te deum should be somewhat faster like this video. I think this should end with a grand and powerful ending, like Mahler's Symphony No.8 . I think the meaning of ("Non Confundar in Aeternum") ="A chorus of intense and earnest faith"... fades when the tempo slows down. So, I think Bruckner's te dem should be tempo like this version.
It makes a change to hear Bruckner that may be thought Too fast rather than Too slow. It's exciting but I do feel the tunes are rattled off too get to really get the best out of it. But it does give one a valuable different perception of the work.
Gosh, so light and frothy - I had no idea Bruckner, let alone this devout prayer to God, could be made to sound like this. Just look at Sir John's affable smile as he switches from 4 to 2 (at 0:20) after just a few bars of the 1st movement ("Allegro moderato 4/4") - he sure knows how to get it over with quickly... Bruckner Lite, yeah!
I guess I’m extremely used to the Karajan recording I have, and the tempo my choir is taking for our concert on May 1st, but this is VERY fast for Te Deum, I feel. The entire piece is being performed so fast. You blink and you miss the intricacies of each movement. It’s lovely but I feel a lot of the point of the piece was missed at this tempo.
I agree while also disagreeing with your comment, of course a slower tempo really brings out everything about this piece, but at the same time, this faster tempo shown here reflects the historical tempo that Bruckner probably intended it to be played at. As shown by historical records and recordings of late romantic conductors and early 20th century performances, the tempo of pieces such as Beethoven 5th or 3rd illustrate a perplexingly fast tempo, and of course shown in numerous other romantic era composers such as Tchaikovsky and Brahms. There are also historical records of Mahler who conducted his own piece at a very fast tempo that is very unusual at todays standards, his adagietto from his 5th symphony for example was apparently conducted in 7 minutes, while modern recording stretch it out to 9 or even up to 12 minutes. There even exists a recording of Rachmaninoff, playing the Piano solo part of his 3rd Piano concerto at an incomprehensible fast tempo (3rd movement to be exact), of course he is playing his own piece so its really hard to say "he's playing it too fast". But anyways, the tempo that Gardiner takes Bruckner's Te Deum, and in fact his recordings of Bach's pieces I find way too fast as you also said. But at the same time, I believe this is the tempo the composer himself would have envisioned it to be played at.
Ces chefs qui veulent « dégraisser » Bruckner se trompent de compositeur. Le pathos de son écriture, la densité des timbres dans cette harmonie si verticale, le « mur de son » brucknerien ne peut pas être allégé sans que la musique en perde de sa substance musicale, de son jus et de sa couleur. Et ce n’est pas un tempo à tout va qui améliore les choses… La vidéo est intéressante surtout pour voir l’intérieur de la merveilleuse église de Sainte Marie à Lübeck
There must have been free beer afterwards at the local hofbrau! I would rush it too, or maybe they they just want to get away from the famously rude Mr Eliot-whatever.
Mir war es auch ein bisschen schnell und vom Chorklang, wie man es bei Gardiner zumindest damals gewohnt war, zu muskulär-athletisch. Aber die Wucht und Strahlkraft sind natürlich beeindruckend und gehen unter die Haut. Die beiden Solistinnen gefallen mir auch ganz ausgezeichnet, die Männer etwas weniger! Leider als recht geschmacklos empfinde ich, wenn mitten in der großen Schlusssteigerung der Abspann schon eingeblendet wird, da verliere ich die Lust hinzuschauen. Sehr schade und für mich unverständlich...
Gardiner ist einer von den Dirigenten, die leider immer nur mit ihrer "eigenen" Freiberuflertruppe ein gutes Ergebnis erzielen. Das hat einen Grund. Man muss nur die Musiker fragen, die unter ihm musiziert haben, wobei das "unter" wirklich wörtlich zu nehmen ist. Ich habe in 35 Jahren als Konzertsänger mit ca. 50 Dirigenten selten ein ähnlich respektloses und rücksichtsloses Verhalten gegenüber den Musikern erlebt.
With all due respect, a Te Deum is a prayer, here in a church, not a performance or a show. Someone should have advised Ms. Susan Graham to dress appropriately.
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And Bruckner was worried God would greet him with "Well, my boy, you didn't do near enough with the talent I gave you."
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Oh no, how sad. Thank you for letting us know!
Thanks for this info :(
R I P !
Electrifying and polished performance with plenty of nuance! My choir is performing this at the end of next month...can't wait :)
Herzlichsten Dank NDR für das.
Lieber Patrick Un, sehr gern, es ist uns ein Vergnügen ✨
If you are familiar with Bruckner the tempo here takes a bit of getting used to, but the performance is so strong overall that it becomes irresistible. Now my favourite version.
I just love NDR products. It is one of their marvellous work.
Thank you, it is a great pleasure for us to be able to share these treasures!
I like this performance more than any other I have heard so far. Thank you for the opportunity and the pleasure. (And no, I don't think it's too fast. :)
Thank you very much! It is a great pleasure for us.
The best version, full of vitality!
Thank you!!
what a extraordinary performance! Electrifying. The very best. He makes this piece what Bruckner wanted it to be: his passport to heaven! To the greater glory of God!
Happy to hear that you enjoyed it!! :)
Wundeschöne und spannende Aufführung dieses romantischen und perfekt komponierten Meisterwerks mit herrlichen Stimmen vierer genialen Solisten und gut harmonisierten Stimmen des ausgezeichneten Chors sowie gut vereinigten und perfekt entsprechenden Tönen aller Instrumente. Der intelligente und ebenso geniale Dirigent leitet das ausgezeichnete Orchester im relativ schnellen Tempo und mit möglichst effektiver Dynamik. Wundervoll und atemberaubend zugleich!
Starting 2025 listening to this masterpiece of a performance! 🎉 Blessed 2025 everyone!!! 🥳 🎊
Thank you very much. We wish you a happy New Year!
❤👍🌹! Tausend Dank fürs Upload!
Es ist uns eine Ehre und ein Vergnügen! :)
Lieber Gott, das war ein schnelles Tempo!
Es un circo de barroquero! El tempo es para vomitar al estúpido inglés
Ja. Das ging etwas schnell.
La más rápida de las versiones que yo conozca de esta obra maestra, sublime; dicha rapidez le saca un insólito partido, un efecto contrario al que obtenía Celibidache y que no deja de complacer... De momento, es mi versión favorita, aunque sé que volveré a Celibidache.
Gracias!
Bravo!!!
Endlich Ersatz für meine alten VHS-Cassetten ! Darf ich noch einige Wünsche äußern: Holst The Planets, Schumann 2, Mendelssohn 5, Beethoven Missa solemnis, alle mit Gardiner beim SHMF. Ist ja bald Weihnachten ! Vielen Dank für die bisherigen Veröffentlichungen. PS: Beethoven Violinkonzert und Brahms 1 mit Tennstedt/Kennedy.
Lieber Arne Heimann, vielen Dank zurück! Natürlich dürfen Sie sehr gern Wünsche äußern. Wir leiten sie weiter und hoffen, dass wir den ein oder anderen Mitschnitt aufstöbern und veröffentlichen können.
NDR ELBPHILARMONIE ORCHESTER , MERVEILLEUSEMENT PRODIGUX, SIR ELLIOT GARDINER, SUPERBE , BRUCKNER À GÉNIE , TE DEUM CHEF -D'ŒUVRE , MERCI DU FOND D'CŒUR !!!
Merci beaucoup à vous😁💕
18:22 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Wow Good~! Best Version Ever..! Because of this version, Karajan now has to go to the museum...
:)))
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Karajan does not understand Mozart either Bruckner
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Magnífica versión de esta brillante obra.-excelente orquesta y solistas felicitaciones maestro Gardiner.
Muchas gracias!!
I love this tempo, which shows another facet of Bruckner's works. Just my opinion, I don't see the point of dragging to a broader tempo just because of "Bruckner".
Thank you for sharing!
So, wie heute fast alles in der Klassischen Musik , vorgetragen nach dem Motto "höher, schneller, weiter".
I watch this version from time to time.
Also, I respect the belief of viewers who don't like fast tempo.
However, my personal point of view is that the tempo of Bruckner's te deum should be
somewhat faster like this video.
I think this should end with a grand and powerful ending,
like Mahler's Symphony No.8 .
I think the meaning of
("Non Confundar in Aeternum")
="A chorus of intense and earnest faith"... fades when the tempo slows down.
So, I think Bruckner's te dem should be tempo like this version.
Thank you for sharing! :)
It makes a change to hear Bruckner that may be thought Too fast rather than Too slow. It's exciting but I do feel the tunes are rattled off too get to really get the best out of it. But it does give one a valuable different perception of the work.
Glorious Finale - 20:05
Gosh, so light and frothy - I had no idea Bruckner, let alone this devout prayer to God, could be made to sound like this. Just look at Sir John's affable smile as he switches from 4 to 2 (at 0:20) after just a few bars of the 1st movement ("Allegro moderato 4/4") - he sure knows how to get it over with quickly...
Bruckner Lite, yeah!
Happy you enjoyed it!
@@NDRKlassik Hahaha, right...
Marvellous ! !
I guess I’m extremely used to the Karajan recording I have, and the tempo my choir is taking for our concert on May 1st, but this is VERY fast for Te Deum, I feel. The entire piece is being performed so fast. You blink and you miss the intricacies of each movement. It’s lovely but I feel a lot of the point of the piece was missed at this tempo.
I agree while also disagreeing with your comment, of course a slower tempo really brings out everything about this piece, but at the same time, this faster tempo shown here reflects the historical tempo that Bruckner probably intended it to be played at. As shown by historical records and recordings of late romantic conductors and early 20th century performances, the tempo of pieces such as Beethoven 5th or 3rd illustrate a perplexingly fast tempo, and of course shown in numerous other romantic era composers such as Tchaikovsky and Brahms. There are also historical records of Mahler who conducted his own piece at a very fast tempo that is very unusual at todays standards, his adagietto from his 5th symphony for example was apparently conducted in 7 minutes, while modern recording stretch it out to 9 or even up to 12 minutes. There even exists a recording of Rachmaninoff, playing the Piano solo part of his 3rd Piano concerto at an incomprehensible fast tempo (3rd movement to be exact), of course he is playing his own piece so its really hard to say "he's playing it too fast". But anyways, the tempo that Gardiner takes Bruckner's Te Deum, and in fact his recordings of Bach's pieces I find way too fast as you also said. But at the same time, I believe this is the tempo the composer himself would have envisioned it to be played at.
I love the tempo!
Biggest problem with Bruckner is generally performed to slow...got to keep the forward movement 👍
Thank you! :)
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I much prefer this tempo!
Спасибо огромное за запись.
Thank you, спасибо!
Ces chefs qui veulent « dégraisser » Bruckner se trompent de compositeur. Le pathos de son écriture, la densité des timbres dans cette harmonie si verticale, le « mur de son » brucknerien ne peut pas être allégé sans que la musique en perde de sa substance musicale, de son jus et de sa couleur. Et ce n’est pas un tempo à tout va qui améliore les choses…
La vidéo est intéressante surtout pour voir l’intérieur de la merveilleuse église de Sainte Marie à Lübeck
Thank you
Wanderful
Absolutely awesome
Thank you so much!!
There must have been free beer afterwards at the local hofbrau! I would rush it too, or maybe they they just want to get away from the famously rude Mr Eliot-whatever.
Mir war es auch ein bisschen schnell und vom Chorklang, wie man es bei Gardiner zumindest damals gewohnt war, zu muskulär-athletisch. Aber die Wucht und Strahlkraft sind natürlich beeindruckend und gehen unter die Haut. Die beiden Solistinnen gefallen mir auch ganz ausgezeichnet, die Männer etwas weniger!
Leider als recht geschmacklos empfinde ich, wenn mitten in der großen Schlusssteigerung der Abspann schon eingeblendet wird, da verliere ich die Lust hinzuschauen. Sehr schade und für mich unverständlich...
Vielen Dank aus Moskau
Viele Grüße nach Moskau!
WOW
I’m so sorry but this is terrible tempo …. We are not in a race mr Gardiner
No it was not, in score partuture; allegro moderato
Gardiner ist einer von den Dirigenten, die leider immer nur mit ihrer "eigenen" Freiberuflertruppe ein gutes Ergebnis erzielen. Das hat einen Grund. Man muss nur die Musiker fragen, die unter ihm musiziert haben, wobei das "unter" wirklich wörtlich zu nehmen ist. Ich habe in 35 Jahren als Konzertsänger mit ca. 50 Dirigenten selten ein ähnlich respektloses und rücksichtsloses Verhalten gegenüber den Musikern erlebt.
Absolutely reckless abandon!
With all due respect, a Te Deum is a prayer, here in a church, not a performance or a show. Someone should have advised Ms. Susan Graham to dress appropriately.
lmao if only you'd been there to tell everyone how things ought to be
too fast
Most 19th century music is played too fast!