This was bar-none the best long form interview I've ever watched. From the well intentioned questions that got away from you, to the extreme detail you researched about your guest; Quality stuff. And to top it off, you're going to start giving Thorin a run for his money on off the cuff quips. Looking forward to more
the section around 21 minutes in, where LS says febiven might be dismissive of his view of the game out of fear really hits the nail on the head i think for why so many players dislike LS and this sort of deep analysis. theres definitely moments where you think you are good at something but then discover there is so much more that you could be doing, and the cognitive dissonance you experience there can make you really uncomfortable and even afraid.
Loved the sophisticated conversation on the nuances of LS' philosophy of the game and giving him room to really air out his theory in detail. Great work.
As a german native who learned english as his 3rd language but would still call himself pretty confident in speaking and understanding it, i still feel like my brain has to go into overdrive to follow some of the conversations being held here. Wich is just such a welcome break from the usual talk in and around the LoL community. Very nice interview
As a native German speaker with English 3rd language as well, I find this pretty easy to listen to. But I listen a lot to LS and I am interested a lot in a esports in general, so I know most of the concepts here. Still freaking awesome to listen to, both the interpersonal interactions and the topics, about Korean and American culture.
It's more Ruddy that I have some trouble understanding, but you're not wrong! It's great to listen about these sorts of topics, especially in a light-hearted manner.@@tomwanders6022
As usual ruddy does a great job being an interviewer and picking LS’ brain but this episode really showed how smart he actually is despite portraying himself as this laidback goofy guy
My brain wants another 2 hours asap, surprisingly no prob tracking the longer-winded questions, even if they contained an analogy or reference I wasn’t familiar with- you at least succinctly described the reference material and got back to the question. And the banter/jokes are gold.
love the interviews man, I feel like you're really changing the eSport intverview game, usually its "hi" "hi" and serious questions, whereas you crack jokes in between and it feels more genuine, and worthwhile to watch even on a 2 hour format
Been waiting for this one. It's always nice to see LS elaborate do long form interviews / videos even if they don't garner a lot of views. Also I find it weird that DonJake proudly associates himself with the founder of many Churches "LS", while Mr.Ruddy still hasn't read the Bible.
All the chess analogies were correct and the engine elo was all correct if anyone was wondering. Also Ruddy seems quite knowledgeable about the topic which I find refreshing.
Who are you ? Why such amazing content hasn't come to me earlier ? Came cause of LS's RT. Spend 20 minutes in your interview and loving it. AMAZING Content thank you so much !
Ruddy helped me understand why I don't really watch LS despite agreeing with his views on the game and liking the guy, it's probably his 'lexicon' and the way he expresses his ideas in the language. He's very sporadic and spontaneous, all the time. It's also hard to listen to what feels like memey inside catchphrases all the time like 'sinning'.
What a brilliant interview. That question at 44:00 was so close to being a banger. But I think you needed to slow down and let it play out naturally. The Dark souls analogy threw it off Sadge But what a great interview
1:22:00 If I'm remembering correctly, LS has said that people should think of draft only in terms of champions and not who is playing the champions. IIRC, he's also said that he dislikes comfort picks, thus players should play the supposedly stronger champion even with less experience with said champion. I've tried to find a yt video of him saying something along those lines, but can't find it. Maybe I heard it on stream where there's no more twitch vods for korea or they got deleted due to dmca music scares.
As a regular watcher of LS i can assure you thats what he is saying when he is going on about draft. His reasoning why comfort picks are stupid is because when a new champ comes out, suddenly the whole world can play it after a single week. So it should be doable for every champion especially for well known old champions.
@@ThatLuckyKill Doesn't he say that when he talks about the theory of drafting he ignores comfort picks, instead of saying comfort picks are stupid? Obviously in a very high pressure situation comfort picks matter a lot.
Can somebody tell me who he is referring to when saying there was only ever one person he didnt want to talk to bc he thought they dont deserve a paltform?
I coached rocket league in a way that went against what was meta at the time, a lot of the things LS has felt i can relate coach/analyst wise. People hear something that is not conventional gameplay and instantly shut it down rather than thinking about it, drove me mad and i stopped coaching now lol
I wondered if the reason the Red deck style is more prevalent is because you are killing your opponent (champions or creatures) and so in their minds people feel like they are being more active and doing more, even maybe winning more through dealing face damage etc. So that makes them feel better as a player than the control player who is waiting for openings, biding time and being less "active" in the game. Similar to how an assassin "hands" player in league is roaming, getting kills etc feels more active and winning because of KD etc which in their mind is more exciting and glamorous than playing a control mage who is farming and scaling for later and controlling the map. I think it may just come down to an ego thing. which strokes the ego more or feels better in the moment? Whatever gets those dopamine receptors going the fastest. I've been a U/B MtG player forever anyway so guess I'm a willing part of the 9%.
@@RuddyCorp Had to represent and let you know I watched all of this mate, even had me watching the UFC muted tonight 👍🏻 Can't wait to see the Neme interview you clearly have cooking yeah boss? 👀
50:48 I'm not sure that's really "playing with hands" Plotting out the first 50 moves from a memorized opening doesn't really fall on "playing with hands."
I don’t know if ppl will see this or get this but ls and Hasanabi kind of remind me of one another in the way that their both preach an unpopular view and defend it vigorously. And they both have this “always on” experience, always having to defend their points perfectly and talking with everyone.
regarding the proportion of people who would play control, I think a big part of it (in the case of MTG) is that playing reactively in a single player turn based game is not regarded as very skillful, although I might be wrong since I’ve never played that game lol
The problem isnt that they are "retarded" its that you desire the fight. You keep answering the question, because you cant understand that you cant always win. Specially when your right.
17:50 you mentioned a reddit thread about someone explaining LS's use of language. Would you happen to remember the link? Not that I have trouble understanding the stuff that he says but I want to read people's opinions about it
same. I think Ls does use a lot of weird jargon like sinner, terrain scaling, tippering etc. he also used colors from the card game magic the gathering to mean different playstyles. red .= aggressive/.early game focused, blue control
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LS HAS LEGS WTF
A.K.A Leg-less Streamer
dude LS literally stands for LegS
Legs Shown
Of course he does. He walks fast too. That's why he's called Long Strides
This was bar-none the best long form interview I've ever watched. From the well intentioned questions that got away from you, to the extreme detail you researched about your guest; Quality stuff. And to top it off, you're going to start giving Thorin a run for his money on off the cuff quips. Looking forward to more
Thank u so much this is rly nice to read and makes this so worthwhile.
the section around 21 minutes in, where LS says febiven might be dismissive of his view of the game out of fear really hits the nail on the head i think for why so many players dislike LS and this sort of deep analysis. theres definitely moments where you think you are good at something but then discover there is so much more that you could be doing, and the cognitive dissonance you experience there can make you really uncomfortable and even afraid.
Loved the sophisticated conversation on the nuances of LS' philosophy of the game and giving him room to really air out his theory in detail. Great work.
As a german native who learned english as his 3rd language but would still call himself pretty confident in speaking and understanding it, i still feel like my brain has to go into overdrive to follow some of the conversations being held here. Wich is just such a welcome break from the usual talk in and around the LoL community. Very nice interview
Indeed bro good stuff
Native English Speaker here: You're not alone.
As a native German speaker with English 3rd language as well, I find this pretty easy to listen to. But I listen a lot to LS and I am interested a lot in a esports in general, so I know most of the concepts here.
Still freaking awesome to listen to, both the interpersonal interactions and the topics, about Korean and American culture.
It's more Ruddy that I have some trouble understanding, but you're not wrong! It's great to listen about these sorts of topics, especially in a light-hearted manner.@@tomwanders6022
Whats your second language? Its cant be French, can it?
If you got a Nemesis interview before leaving korea that you're holding holding in the woodworks you're actualy a mastermind
Looks like he did!
@@LettucePlateconfirmed?
@@omarjafar846 He posted a screenshot on his twitter as a teaser.
Aight that LS intro alone was fantastic, this gonna be a banger video
Wow this is actually one of the best interviews I've ever seen. Instant subscribe
As usual ruddy does a great job being an interviewer and picking LS’ brain but this episode really showed how smart he actually is despite portraying himself as this laidback goofy guy
bro tries too hard
That sky williams or ocelote question was so well timed LMAO
do you know what the history there is? i couldnt find the right results trying to find out what happened with those ppl and ls
These longer and more personal interviews are some of my fav esports content I hope we see more :)
Insane content by Ruddy. Thants to the sack for sponsoring this!!
My brain wants another 2 hours asap, surprisingly no prob tracking the longer-winded questions, even if they contained an analogy or reference I wasn’t familiar with- you at least succinctly described the reference material and got back to the question. And the banter/jokes are gold.
Thanks for sponsoring this, Dom ❤
love the interviews man, I feel like you're really changing the eSport intverview game, usually its "hi" "hi" and serious questions, whereas you crack jokes in between and it feels more genuine, and worthwhile to watch even on a 2 hour format
Great, I love the long form content and all the work you all put into these.
Thanks so much
Banger from start to finish Jake keep doing what you're doing
You bringing up AlphaZero and how it defeated Stockfish after everyone assumed Stockfish was perfect was my avengers
Been waiting for this one. It's always nice to see LS elaborate do long form interviews / videos even if they don't garner a lot of views.
Also I find it weird that DonJake proudly associates himself with the founder of many Churches "LS", while Mr.Ruddy still hasn't read the Bible.
This is so well done. The host is hilarious and clearly a good writer
These long form interviews are bangers
Ty bro
LS the goat thx Ruddy and co, the Sack, and LS for giving the people what they needed.
Thanks for the video glhf
Intro for this was actually top notch. Instant sub and like.
amazing interview. love having found you keep it up bois
All the chess analogies were correct and the engine elo was all correct if anyone was wondering. Also Ruddy seems quite knowledgeable about the topic which I find refreshing.
My guy. They call me Vaseline Ivanchuk
@@RuddyCorp hahahaha, what's your elo
Never was good just follow the scene a lot
This had me laughing more than I have in a while. Thanks for that! You got a new subscriber.
Who are you ? Why such amazing content hasn't come to me earlier ? Came cause of LS's RT. Spend 20 minutes in your interview and loving it. AMAZING Content thank you so much !
god instant sub after the clear effort u put in and the humour, keep up the good work lads I know ur gonna be big
This will be an absolute content banger!
this is 2h but it feels so easy to watch! great video. and the gift is just insane btw
Crazy that there were a lot of chess analogies in this since I was relating LS control scaling strategy to chess in my head a lot.
Ruddy helped me understand why I don't really watch LS despite agreeing with his views on the game and liking the guy, it's probably his 'lexicon' and the way he expresses his ideas in the language. He's very sporadic and spontaneous, all the time. It's also hard to listen to what feels like memey inside catchphrases all the time like 'sinning'.
How did I help you
@@RuddyCorp more like 'made me realize'
GOATED CONTENT
thank you jake
thank you ls
thank you dom
GOATED
I have a great feeling like this is: The West and the Best part2…
And im enternaly greatful bcs i never tough that this day will ever come
What a brilliant interview. That question at 44:00 was so close to being a banger. But I think you needed to slow down and let it play out naturally. The Dark souls analogy threw it off Sadge But what a great interview
I think he may have intentionally made it confusing
Ruddy coming through huge recently. Excited for the episode!
1:22:00 If I'm remembering correctly, LS has said that people should think of draft only in terms of champions and not who is playing the champions. IIRC, he's also said that he dislikes comfort picks, thus players should play the supposedly stronger champion even with less experience with said champion. I've tried to find a yt video of him saying something along those lines, but can't find it. Maybe I heard it on stream where there's no more twitch vods for korea or they got deleted due to dmca music scares.
As a regular watcher of LS i can assure you thats what he is saying when he is going on about draft. His reasoning why comfort picks are stupid is because when a new champ comes out, suddenly the whole world can play it after a single week. So it should be doable for every champion especially for well known old champions.
@@ThatLuckyKill Doesn't he say that when he talks about the theory of drafting he ignores comfort picks, instead of saying comfort picks are stupid? Obviously in a very high pressure situation comfort picks matter a lot.
@@rayaqin he nowadays tends to say that because its like talking to a wall. I still hear past LS rant in my head about that. Good times
I wasn't expecting a Magic the gathering podcast Q&A at the 55 minute mark but I like to think Jake did this just for me.
Great interview, really fucking interesting, please make more podcasts/long form content man
i love when a fan does the interview instead of a regular interviewer with no passion.
great vid
One of the goatest of goats interviews ive ever seen the flow the questions the atmosphere everything! love regan asking too!
This whole interview was beyond based, incredible work!
Does anyone know what the documentary LS is talking about at around 1hr19min concerning no limit Hold 'em being a solved game?
The only interview I ever saw that had me interested every moment was the one with Zane Lowe And Kanye back in 2013. This is the second
Very very high praise I really appreciate it
We appreciate the content@@RuddyCorp
Alright time to cross the Age of Fire analogy off my bingo card. Didn't see that one coming, not gonna lie, but interesting point to bring up.
Loved this, so much fun but also indepth
that introduction was legendary
I haven't even got anything smug to say.
Just a straight up banger show.
now for the neme interview waitroom
Great interview ruddy
Amazing Interview. Great questions and atmosphere.
need more of this its too good
Giga banger I love these long form podcasts
Nice interview brother 🚫🎓💯 and that Machine Girl album slaps btw gonna go front to back it- cheers
any lore masters know what/who LS is referencing at 34:30 ?
You're kinda like the Maddy Morphosis of lolesports rn- great content!
This is so insulting
1:28:57 "it's just patterns" Would like to know more specifics on what makes someone good.
Wonderful interviewing skills. I love la too. Great work ruddy
Lost sociopath interview was fire ngl
man, it felt bad when ls said he stopped dreaming and said that he failed
yeah I hope he can find his spark again
Actually banging content, wth! Keep these coming ^^
Can somebody tell me who he is referring to when saying there was only ever one person he didnt want to talk to bc he thought they dont deserve a paltform?
commenting cuz im interested as well
Probably Neace
maybe neace about coaching controversies. imo not giving someone a platform is cringe. Just talk with the person and roll him over in a debate.
where have I seen that thumbnail background...I just cant remember
Ruddy & algorithm up.
Lovely listening to you
I coached rocket league in a way that went against what was meta at the time, a lot of the things LS has felt i can relate coach/analyst wise. People hear something that is not conventional gameplay and instantly shut it down rather than thinking about it, drove me mad and i stopped coaching now lol
This was so fun to watch
10 minutes in and have been cracking up non stop, very clever jokes
Coach LS said to drop a comment. Yes Coach.
Hilarious and informative. Well done
Ruddy got advanced english. thought Ruddy was from the hood
That was the best intro ever 😂 clean af
Finally, confronting the Church of Chovy's Cult leader 😂😂😂😂
I wondered if the reason the Red deck style is more prevalent is because you are killing your opponent (champions or creatures) and so in their minds people feel like they are being more active and doing more, even maybe winning more through dealing face damage etc. So that makes them feel better as a player than the control player who is waiting for openings, biding time and being less "active" in the game.
Similar to how an assassin "hands" player in league is roaming, getting kills etc feels more active and winning because of KD etc which in their mind is more exciting and glamorous than playing a control mage who is farming and scaling for later and controlling the map.
I think it may just come down to an ego thing. which strokes the ego more or feels better in the moment? Whatever gets those dopamine receptors going the fastest. I've been a U/B MtG player forever anyway so guess I'm a willing part of the 9%.
That intro was fire... wtf!
ending comments were hilarious
what a coaster of an interview
Love this, thank you
Shoutout Ruddy's Mum for flogging Big Issues, it's not rewarding but someones gotta do it
Dude
@@RuddyCorp Had to represent and let you know I watched all of this mate, even had me watching the UFC muted tonight 👍🏻
Can't wait to see the Neme interview you clearly have cooking yeah boss? 👀
1:00:00 Would there be a problem with the pro players explaining their concepts?
Timestamps would be rad.
Very funny and unique interview. Keep it up!
Absolutely banging interview
genius intro
LS NEW COACH OF RUDDY ESPORTS?
nice machine girl shirt i was listening to that album today lol
I prefer to play control in card games. Most people don’t because most people are Timmy’s.
50:48 I'm not sure that's really "playing with hands" Plotting out the first 50 moves from a memorized opening doesn't really fall on "playing with hands."
I don’t know if ppl will see this or get this but ls and Hasanabi kind of remind me of one another in the way that their both preach an unpopular view and defend it vigorously. And they both have this “always on” experience, always having to defend their points perfectly and talking with everyone.
10 OUT OF 10 OPENER.
regarding the proportion of people who would play control, I think a big part of it (in the case of MTG) is that playing reactively in a single player turn based game is not regarded as very skillful, although I might be wrong since I’ve never played that game lol
Watching Ruddy not understand that people can be sexually attracted to men without being gay was hillariously awkward 'But I'm not gay...'
Sounds pretty gay
Big if true @@RuddyCorp
15:31 Anyone know where this is from?
The problem isnt that they are "retarded" its that you desire the fight. You keep answering the question, because you cant understand that you cant always win. Specially when your right.
17:50 you mentioned a reddit thread about someone explaining LS's use of language. Would you happen to remember the link? Not that I have trouble understanding the stuff that he says but I want to read people's opinions about it
same. I think Ls does use a lot of weird jargon like sinner, terrain scaling, tippering etc. he also used colors from the card game magic the gathering to mean different playstyles. red .= aggressive/.early game focused, blue control
Reagen (idk how to spell) sounds like a best friend 😂
this is gunna be so fkn good
fire intro ngl
SEAN EVANS OF LEAGUE
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