I'm with you on tire clearance. Manufacturers imo are missing out by not going to at least 45mm. This allows you to have two wheelsets with completely different applications, one for road and one for gravel. I've done this with my Giant Revolt and truly feel like I have two separate bikes.
Stinner is marketing its Carrizo as "Adventure Road"; so not pretending to be a gravel bike. Nevertheless, I wouldn't buy it either due to the lack of adequate clearance. They do have the Stinner Refugio, an actual gravel bike, in their lineup.
I have admired Stinner frames for a few reasons. They use really nice steel and Ti plus they are in CA and local to me. Unfortunately they do miss a few details that you pointed out.
Steel is definitely real, and it’s pretty much able to get recycled forever. Carbon on the other hand, oh snap, I forget what I wanted say? See what I did there
If spec'd with Microshift or Cues 2X mechanical and decent wheels I bet it could be built from frameset for $3,000 or less - now that would be more interesting
Simplified my MTB and used micro shit 9 speed group set. Great performance just the components rusted pretty quick. Looking into the road group set. Great value and simple
@@sharpes07ify Great value doesn't always translate into longevity or performance, IMHO. I've tried Micro$hit Sword on a few bikes, I found it extremely sub par vs budget offerings by SRAM for example, with their Apex 12 speed mechanical drivetrain. However, your experience may differ, I wish you luck with whatever path you choose.
I'm with you on tire clearance. Manufacturers imo are missing out by not going to at least 45mm. This allows you to have two wheelsets with completely different applications, one for road and one for gravel. I've done this with my Giant Revolt and truly feel like I have two separate bikes.
Not everyone wants wide tires. For me 38 is as wide as I need.
Stinner is marketing its Carrizo as "Adventure Road"; so not pretending to be a gravel bike. Nevertheless, I wouldn't buy it either due to the lack of adequate clearance. They do have the Stinner Refugio, an actual gravel bike, in their lineup.
100%, it all depends on where you live. I feel this bike is sorely needing a 2x groupset.
Spot on Hans, which is why I find the Apex 1x XPLR AXs drivetrain spec to be a little perplexing.
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They do have a Select version of the gravel Refugio with up to 50mm tires lauching next week
Ruh roh, you spilled the beans.
I have admired Stinner frames for a few reasons. They use really nice steel and Ti plus they are in CA and local to me. Unfortunately they do miss a few details that you pointed out.
I apologize if I missed it…but what size is your frame here in the video?
Steel is definitely real, and it’s pretty much able to get recycled forever. Carbon on the other hand, oh snap, I forget what I wanted say? See what I did there
External cables!
Crazy in this current day!
Tasty.
If spec'd with Microshift or Cues 2X mechanical and decent wheels I bet it could be built from frameset for $3,000 or less - now that would be more interesting
Except that Microshift should be renamed Micro$hit, absolute garbage components, nothing personal 😃
Simplified my MTB and used micro shit 9 speed group set. Great performance just the components rusted pretty quick. Looking into the road group set. Great value and simple
@@sharpes07ify Great value doesn't always translate into longevity or performance, IMHO. I've tried Micro$hit Sword on a few bikes, I found it extremely sub par vs budget offerings by SRAM for example, with their Apex 12 speed mechanical drivetrain. However, your experience may differ, I wish you luck with whatever path you choose.