Local Mormon leader entangled in gov’t assassination plot! Come Follow Me • Hel 7-12 | Sep2-8

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  • @kimhaughton3771
    @kimhaughton3771 2 месяца назад +4

    I LOVE what you are doing to open hearts and minds to the gospel!!! ❤ We are living in the times spoken of where governments and those in power are corrupt. The guilty go free, and the righteous are persecuted and treated as criminals. I pray for the return of our Savior.

    • @2converts
      @2converts  2 месяца назад +1

      Thanks for watching, Kim! Yes, we live in turbulent times. The harvest is great and we need to be the few laborers out there, right? -Rusty

    • @kimhaughton3771
      @kimhaughton3771 2 месяца назад +1

      @@2converts Absolutely! Spot on!

  • @lindamoses3697
    @lindamoses3697 Месяц назад +4

    It is as though every detail of the Book of Mormon is being on display in our news daily. I hope the Savior comes soon

  • @richardallen383
    @richardallen383 Месяц назад +1

    Oh my, this is my first time here. What an amazing presentation. I love what you two have done. This type of RUclips presentation is a beautiful way to offset those who try to destroy others faith. Thank you.

    • @2converts
      @2converts  Месяц назад

      Welcome aboard, Richard!

  • @icecreamladydriver1606
    @icecreamladydriver1606 2 месяца назад +10

    When we recognize false doctrine we are to speak up and share the truth.

    • @Veevslav1
      @Veevslav1 Месяц назад +1

      Maybe you can tell me how the poor are being treated the same as the Brethren in the church? Do they get a 6 figure living stipend? Do they get great insurance?
      "26 And the priests were not to depend upon the people for their support; but for their labor they were to receive the grace of God, that they might wax strong in the Spirit, having the knowledge of God, that they might teach with power and authority from God.
      27 And again Alma commanded that the people of the church should impart of their substance, every one according to that which he had; if he have more abundantly he should impart more abundantly; and of him that had but little, but little should be required; and to him that had not should be given.
      28 And thus they should impart of their substance of their own free will and good desires towards God, and to those priests that stood in need, yea, and to every needy, naked soul.
      29 And this he said unto them, having been commanded of God; and they did walk uprightly before God, imparting to one another both temporally and spiritually according to their needs and their wants."
      Mosiah 18:26-29
      Book of Mormon
      Scriptures
      How are the workers treated at church facilities? 1st Corinthians makes it clear starting in verse 12 and ending in Verse 27.
      Maybe it is time for us as members to turn to the guidance and liken the scripture to ourselves. D&C 112:12.

    • @icecreamladydriver1606
      @icecreamladydriver1606 Месяц назад

      @@Veevslav1 I am 100% with you. I don't know if you meant for this to go to someone else or if you were just sharing with me. They do just enough good to keep the people believing they are doing what we are commanded to do. You know your scriptures and thanks for sharing with me.

    • @icecreamladydriver1606
      @icecreamladydriver1606 Месяц назад

      @@Veevslav1 What chapter in 1Corinthians? Thanks. We can't even admonish them because they are so protected by the letter Gestapos.

  • @jamesdavidray2468
    @jamesdavidray2468 Месяц назад +1

    It’s the parent’s responsibility to teach their own children and bring them up in righteousness yet they did not. A quick look around is an obvious example.

  • @linnjensen7469
    @linnjensen7469 2 месяца назад +3

    God bless you I appreciate individuals like you

    • @2converts
      @2converts  2 месяца назад

      Thanks for watching, Linn! -Rusty

  • @jeam1
    @jeam1 Месяц назад +1

    The individual tells the teacher, the teacher tells the Bishop. If the Bishop teaches false doctrine, the member goes up the so called chain of command to Stake Prez etc

  • @sandeakilpatrick2386
    @sandeakilpatrick2386 2 месяца назад +5

    We as individuals are responsible to say something when a teacher says something that is not doctrine. But I also think it falls to priesthood leadership. If I say something that isn't true I hope a member of my class would question me.

    • @2converts
      @2converts  2 месяца назад +3

      Would that we were all humble enough to have this mindset! Good on you, Sandea!

  • @nextstep04
    @nextstep04 Месяц назад +5

    It’s all our responsibility…if prompted by the Holy Ghost.

  • @lemjwp1756
    @lemjwp1756 Месяц назад +1

    So nice to hear the "100% in" part!

    • @2converts
      @2converts  Месяц назад

      You got it. WHOLE heart, might, mind, and strength is the goal. -Rusty

  • @emmittkimbrel2754
    @emmittkimbrel2754 2 месяца назад +4

    That starts with members ,teachers ,Sunday school presidency, the bishopric

    • @2converts
      @2converts  2 месяца назад +2

      So we shouldn't let it slide?

    • @jeffreybernson7978
      @jeffreybernson7978 2 месяца назад +2

      Teachers Sunday school presidency ..and bishops don’t usually know enough to correct

    • @jeffreybernson7978
      @jeffreybernson7978 2 месяца назад +3

      @@2convertsnever ever ever let it slide … there is always someone listening for the truth.. just got a Jew bsptized

    • @2converts
      @2converts  2 месяца назад +3

      @@jeffreybernson7978 Unfortunately, that is often the case.

    • @2converts
      @2converts  2 месяца назад +2

      @@jeffreybernson7978 Way to help gather Israel, Jeffrey! -Rusty

  • @maryjobell
    @maryjobell 2 месяца назад +1

    Thank you!

    • @2converts
      @2converts  2 месяца назад

      Thank YOU for watching, Mary! We hope it was helpful. -Rusty

  • @richardallen383
    @richardallen383 Месяц назад +1

    I think when some on Sunday School or Priesthood say something that may be interpreted as false doctrine, it’s our own obligation to verify what is actually true in our own private study of the Gospel. I wouldn’t call them out in class but I may raise my hand and offer my explanation of the gospel doctrinal issue in the way I believe it to be correct without denigration of anything the other person said.

  • @Elliebee61
    @Elliebee61 2 месяца назад +8

    I think you should challenge false doctrine you hear being taught even as a member. You can do it kindly.

  • @jeffreybernson7978
    @jeffreybernson7978 2 месяца назад +1

    All of us are to know our scriptures so well we all have a responsibility to check and correct

  • @andrewreed4216
    @andrewreed4216 Месяц назад +1

    The nemenhah records are a greater read. Thankyou to the native Americans for releasing them. So much more about the book of Mormon, temple covenants, the holy ghost and women/heavenly mother

  • @jacbox3889
    @jacbox3889 Месяц назад +1

    I'm in too! :) The Book of Mormon speaks about within the Church too! Liken it unto us or me!

    • @2converts
      @2converts  Месяц назад +1

      Awesome, Jacbox! Let's go! -Rusty

  • @danielhughes8516
    @danielhughes8516 Месяц назад +1

    I think many are afraid to correct false teachings/doctrine (as to not offend the offender), maybe sometimes it's insecurity of possibly not knowing with certainty. So, many that could correct don't because they don't want to correct and possibly offend because they themselves are not certain, at the peril of truthful teaching/learning. I've been in situations where I knew what was being shared was not 100% accurate/correct (by the Spirit, and I wasn't sure of the correct answer) and the Spirit indicated something was off, the presiding authority in the meeting handled it, but the Spirit is a great indicator if something isn't quite right and/or especially false. Too many people shy away from confrontation, and will go along to get along, people need to remember that one should not take offense if none was intended, and being corrected isn't an attack, it's an opportunity for truth to be shared/taught.

    • @2converts
      @2converts  Месяц назад +1

      Well said, Daniel. -Rusty

  • @jeffreybernson7978
    @jeffreybernson7978 2 месяца назад +1

    The leaders don’t seem to have time to study ..

  • @gwenynmel5682
    @gwenynmel5682 Месяц назад +2

    False doctrine-
    I usually ask for clarification and say I don’t understand the context or concept. I’m not so smart as to think I can point out false information. I rather they and all of us in class figure it out by looking it up in scripture

    • @lisalowe6922
      @lisalowe6922 Месяц назад +2

      That's a kind way to do it. When I am leading a discussion, One of the first things I do is to invite anyone to correct me if I say something that is not correct. I believe that we receive our callings as an opportunity to help us grow; and then we all grow by discussing the Gospel of Jesus Christ together. I think if its in a sacrament meeting that the Bishopric is responsible to correct a false teaching. Once we had a member of the Bishopric come into our second hour class to correct something that was said in sacrament meeting.

    • @2converts
      @2converts  Месяц назад +1

      Great approach, Lisa!

  • @2converts
    @2converts  2 месяца назад +2

    How do you check false doctrine when taught?

  • @JeannetteWalker-f4b
    @JeannetteWalker-f4b Месяц назад +1

    I feel anyone who knows, and can back it up with scriptures or quotes of conference talks by general Leaders of the church.

  • @jmcfadden3712
    @jmcfadden3712 2 месяца назад

    Him telling them that alone about the murder doesn’t prove anything because he could’ve connspired with the murderer and then went and sid it was a prophesy.

    • @2converts
      @2converts  2 месяца назад

      Telling them didn’t prove it, but the rest of the story did.

  • @nextstep04
    @nextstep04 Месяц назад +1

    Don’t be naive…Utah wants a nice King. They don’t look further than nice words to see the real state of affairs in Utah. Trust our leaders and look away. That is a King mentality that will lead to a hard fall. We have very little left of that republic of which you speak. I encourage you to believe the BofM which saw our day. It is now.

    • @2converts
      @2converts  Месяц назад +2

      Interesting take, Nextstep. I am definitely alarmed at what I am seeing in Utah. It seems like there are many who are so unaware of how ugly the world can be, and are so concerned with acting nice, that they don't recognize the dangers flooding in. -Rusty

  • @johnbarton7159
    @johnbarton7159 Месяц назад +1

    It is your own responsibility

    • @johnbarton7159
      @johnbarton7159 Месяц назад

      What are the signs of a corrupt government? Some signs are voting for the communist Democrat party and the constant in your face Pride 🏳️‍🌈 movement. President Benson called it out but too many are blind to the truth. It is the day of separation.
      I made the following note in 2020 - “America is now morphing into the 4th Beast as talked about in the Book of Daniel. SP 7/30|2020”
      So what comes next…?

    • @2converts
      @2converts  Месяц назад

      Wild that many members today are too scared to share (or just don't believe) the Family Proclamation.

  • @Schtroumpsolis
    @Schtroumpsolis Месяц назад +1

    sunday school presidency is responsible to verify doctrine teaching/

  • @icecreamladydriver1606
    @icecreamladydriver1606 Месяц назад

    Sounds just like Brigham Young.

    • @2converts
      @2converts  Месяц назад +1

      Nephi does?

    • @icecreamladydriver1606
      @icecreamladydriver1606 Месяц назад

      @@2converts No. When he was talking about the government. Brigham Young was our modern day King Noah.

  • @galelaidlaw8355
    @galelaidlaw8355 Месяц назад +2

    I think you should comment using scripture or quotes from our current apostles and prophet to kindly correct the error in doctrine.

    • @2converts
      @2converts  Месяц назад

      Thanks for watching!
      Totally agree with you, where possible.
      I'm not sure about your experience, but sometimes people think that if the current prophet hasn't addressed a subject, then there is no authoritative stance on it. For example... emergency preparedness - “Some Church members opine that emergency plans and supplies, food storage, and 72-hour kits must not be important anymore because the Brethren have not spoken recently and extensively about these and related topics in general conference. But repeated admonitions to prepare have been proclaimed by leaders of the Church for decades. The consistency of prophetic counsel over time creates a powerful concert of clarity and a warning volume far louder than solo performances can ever produce.” - Elder Bednar, GC, October 2020 “We Will Prove Them Herewith” I run into some people who if you even mention President Benson or Elder McConkie they basically roll their eyes and dismiss whatever they said. So, if a prophet hasn't said something on a topic recently, they act like their own interpretation is better than a past prophet. (Yes, we're familiar with the 14 points of following a prophet talk).

    • @nextstep04
      @nextstep04 Месяц назад +1

      Seek from the scriptures.

  • @DeanneSanchez
    @DeanneSanchez Месяц назад +1

    You need to be open to studying your church and church history
    The truth matters

    • @2converts
      @2converts  Месяц назад

      Correct. That’s the only way to learn the truth and not just want anti’s cherry pick. The Lord’s hand is amazingly apparent in the restoration of His true Church.

  • @jacbox3889
    @jacbox3889 Месяц назад

    Are you guys heartlanders? Wondering because you called them local leaders:)

    • @2converts
      @2converts  Месяц назад +1

      Fair question! There are interesting theories out there about locations but honestly, we really don't worry too much about it. Hopefully it comes through in the videos that for us, we're much more concerned about the doctrines and living accordingly. We have no problem AT ALL with those who really "dig" into the archeological side of things. Very cool stuff has been found and continues to be found - it's just not our focus. -Rusty

    • @jacbox3889
      @jacbox3889 Месяц назад

      @@2converts Why did you use local leaders? Just wondering. I love that you are about the doctrines and living them. I enjoyed your show!

    • @2converts
      @2converts  Месяц назад +1

      @@jacbox3889 If you are asking about using "local leader" in the video title, it was only for the clicks. I try to turn the chapters we are reading into an attention-catching headline that people would see in today's articles and want to learn more about. (AKA clickbait). Nephi (local "Mormon" leader) entangled/accused in assassination (Seezoram). It's amazing how the scripture come to life if we apply them to our situation today, right?