May I recommend an idea for a episode or few? You've done a bunch of set reviews and during those Ben referneced his list of playebles from each set. How about doing a set review of an old set from Canlanders perspective and maybe with some notes about it impact when released aside from what is current state of it?
Here I am, commenting 7 months later, but YES! There used to be (I think they might still be around actually) a few videos of, I think, Ben and maybe Jer (?) talking about some old old sets, like ice age or mirage block and so on. Those videos are actually one of the things that got me really into Canadian Highlander, the ability to dig up and play these old, obscure cards.
The discussion on tilt at around @15:00 I think is so awesome and universal to all forms of gaming but magic in particular. I would love more of this sort content from the north 100 crew.
18.9K cards legal in Highlander. On archetypes I wish were competitive: Tireless Tribe Combo, it got hit badly by the banning of Gush in pauper, but there aren't enough analogous cards to it.
Here's the Zombie Aristocrats list I was piloting. There's still some tweaking to do, and I think I'd prefer Mana Crypt or Sol Ring > Demonic Tutor. tappedout.net/mtg-decks/zombie-aristocrats-updated-jul-15th-2019/
wheeler singing to my soul with the highlander stacks callout. I just want to play a turn 1 lodestone golem and turn 2 thorn of amethyst and watch my opponent concede.
Alex ! Deck name for the artifact reanimator deck : Tiny bicycle. When you were describing it I kept thinking about a goblin on a tiny circus bicycle ... here you go. Don't thank me
I think peoples' fixation on mill comes from a desire to be the person to "break the mould" and be the person to make a historically bizarre strategy work. It's the underdog philosophy come to life, which is why Phenax, The Scarab God and OG Lazav are probably the most popular UB decks in EDH because of how much they like to incrementally mill their opponents (usually to death in Phenax's case).
Hmm, Glacial Chasm + Crucible + anything that gives you an extra land play each turn reallymitigates every downside of chasm. Don't pay the upkeep, attack with your creatures, then replay chasm and another land from the bin.
On undiscovered decks: Decks have a universal ranking and an actual ranking. A universal ranking is compared to every deck. An actual ranking is it's Elo performance in a meta. There are good universal decks which are not looked for because they seem to have bad local rating.
even though Jer mentioned it, I still think everybody (and especiallly serge) undervalues Yarok. Yaroks doubles the ETB triggers that ANY permanent entering the battlefield triggers. this is strong with enchantmants and artifacts, but is especially strong with LANDS. got tatyova? any land entering the battlefield draws you 2 cards and gains 2 life. got any other creature with landfall? landfall triggers TWICE. Fetchland? FOUR landfall triggers. i think that it would be worth it if you took and hour and watched the latest game knights episode on the command zone, i know commanders is not like canlander, but thwe game really shows you the power of Yarok. so, dont undervalue him, and Serge, if you read this, i believe Yarok would be a great addition to the sultai lands deck you are playing in the league and you should definitley try him. If i am missing or misunderstanding anything i would also like to know what fo you think i got wrong about Yarok.
@@swiftdragonrider tatyova costs 5 too, and Yarok just powers everything up when he gets in and also has a good, hard to burn body with deathtouch and lifelink
One thing you might be overlooking is that Yarok doesn't have that much impact when he comes into play, his stats are okay and all but the truth of the matter is that (probably) the soonest it gets down is turn 3 and there are probably faster clocks around. I think Yarok wants a dedicated blink deck so your knight of autumn and similar effects do their thing more (a deck that interacts more than serge does when he plays lands) and wins later in the game. Commander is also (from what I've seen since I don't play highlander myself) very different from a format in which the starting life total is 20 and you only have one opponent the entire tetyova thing is cute but ultimately still low impact for what the investment is. At least that's what I say, a stranger on the internet who doesn't own moxen and only a bayou from the original duallands.
@@flamingrock9978 tatyova draws a card and gains a life with only a land drop worst case for yarok is a 3/5 life link. Also i am not sure tatyova sees play
The reason that cards like Tatyova see some play is because she is a stand alone engine card that if left unchecked wins the game by herself. Yarok requires an additional engine card and kicks them into overdrive. The issue is Yarok doesn't win the game by itself and most of your other engine cards will. Due to the speed/hyper interactivity present in the format playing a card that is only good with other good cards is often just win more. The difficulty is finding a spot for Yarok where it is good enough by itself or is a good enough engine by itself (eg Blink).
I play Ilharg in my Saskia aggro deck. The best thing I have put in with him is old Gisela (Gisela, Blade of Goldnight), which is my highest CMC card. He is an insta-kill target in my group now, which is exactly where I want him.
Yo Yes Hello You Are Wheeler, you can't talk about Zombie Aristocrats like that and not give us a list, man. I want to see if I can give it a go in Australian Highlander.
According to gatherer, if you search for cards not in the sets Unglued, Unhinged, and Unstable (gatherer doesn't have the holiday cards listed so they get skipped automatically), you return currently 19,131 unique card names. So yeah, there's a lot of cards and in the next year we may pass 20,000!
Removing Ante cards, Chaos Orb, and Falling Star, it comes down to 18,094 total. edit: Oh I just realized this removes Steamflogger boss, so it should be 18,095! and 19,132 for the total black border cards! second edit: my search may have excluded cards that have the letters "ante" but not just the ante cards, so it's hard to get a perfect number. Also by excluding the unsets, the basic might have been excluded too lol. This is harder to get an exact number of than I thought.
I've played mono black dredge at locals, it got some 2-2s. I'm a hardcore Orzhov player so I don't have green or blue cards to add, which would add much better engine cards in terms of self milling. I actually think there's potential for dredge, there's a lot of graveyard payoff stuff out there. Think Ancient Grudge and Ray of Revelation...
Can someone explain to me the "Get in the Six, Wrenn!" joke, and with the hand? I don't get it! Maybe it's a language thing (my mother language is not English) or some meme I'm missing, but I just don't get it hahaha
That whole conversation was a reference to the anime Neon Genesis Evangelion. Ben calls 6 an "eva," after the giant robots from the series, and "Get in the robot, Shinji!" is a well known meme referring to the main character's reluctance to be anything resembling what we would call a main character. As for the hand joke... well, let's just say there's an "interesting" scene from the sequel film. It's a good show (and on Netflix now too)
@@moxpebble3505 Right! I didn't get that reference. I always wanted to see that show but never got to. I'll definitely though, I've been told is a kick ass show! Thanks a lot for clearing that up! :D
It would be a color nightmare, but I wonder how degenerate Yarok and Ilharg would be together. Reoccurring double ETB effects. How would double Emrakul, Promised End even work? You control 2 turns, then they get one? And
Tangentially to the first question: Do you think, given time and growth, Canlander will become solved? i.e, is the format diversity of Canlander dependent on its (relative to other formats) small size?
@@swiftdragonrider Canlander definitely IS competitive, even though it isn't played in places like pro tours (whatever their new name is, mythic championship I think?) There are other big tournaments.
Can we put a stop to putting down mill and trying to steer players from playing mill? If they wanna play mill, that's their prerogative, and sure they'll lose some matches but if they enjoy that kind of game it's not up to you to try and steer them away from that.
Unfortunately, part of the podcast is that it's inherently a competitive format and you should be playing to win, and non-combo mill is never an option that's maximizing your win chances in Highlander.
People are always welcome to play what they want, but while giving advice on the podcast I'm not going to pretend incidental mill isn't a poor strategy in our format. It's just bad, and not even in a fun way. It simply does not work in this format apart from combo mill.
May I recommend an idea for a episode or few? You've done a bunch of set reviews and during those Ben referneced his list of playebles from each set. How about doing a set review of an old set from Canlanders perspective and maybe with some notes about it impact when released aside from what is current state of it?
I agree but starting with commander deck because I own 3 c14 decks and have a lot of staples for different archetypes from them.
Here I am, commenting 7 months later, but YES! There used to be (I think they might still be around actually) a few videos of, I think, Ben and maybe Jer (?) talking about some old old sets, like ice age or mirage block and so on. Those videos are actually one of the things that got me really into Canadian Highlander, the ability to dig up and play these old, obscure cards.
The discussion on tilt at around @15:00 I think is so awesome and universal to all forms of gaming but magic in particular. I would love more of this sort content from the north 100 crew.
Yay! Yet another North 100 set review. I think you missed snow-covered wastes, chaos confetti, Mox Carbonite and Pikachu though.
Where is the Zombie Aristocrats list????
Edit: Found it: tappedout.net/mtg-decks/zombie-aristocrats-updated-aug-5th-2019/
18.9K cards legal in Highlander.
On archetypes I wish were competitive: Tireless Tribe Combo, it got hit badly by the banning of Gush in pauper, but there aren't enough analogous cards to it.
Here's the Zombie Aristocrats list I was piloting. There's still some tweaking to do, and I think I'd prefer Mana Crypt or Sol Ring > Demonic Tutor.
tappedout.net/mtg-decks/zombie-aristocrats-updated-jul-15th-2019/
wheeler singing to my soul with the highlander stacks callout. I just want to play a turn 1 lodestone golem and turn 2 thorn of amethyst and watch my opponent concede.
So you want to keep (lotus+land/workshop+mox) + golem + throrn every game? Yeah sounds fun.
Alex ! Deck name for the artifact reanimator deck : Tiny bicycle. When you were describing it I kept thinking about a goblin on a tiny circus bicycle ... here you go. Don't thank me
I think peoples' fixation on mill comes from a desire to be the person to "break the mould" and be the person to make a historically bizarre strategy work. It's the underdog philosophy come to life, which is why Phenax, The Scarab God and OG Lazav are probably the most popular UB decks in EDH because of how much they like to incrementally mill their opponents (usually to death in Phenax's case).
How about use Gideon of the Trials' +1 on Fastbond?
Holy shit...
That’s the biggest brain play
Hmm, Glacial Chasm + Crucible + anything that gives you an extra land play each turn reallymitigates every downside of chasm. Don't pay the upkeep, attack with your creatures, then replay chasm and another land from the bin.
On undiscovered decks:
Decks have a universal ranking and an actual ranking.
A universal ranking is compared to every deck.
An actual ranking is it's Elo performance in a meta.
There are good universal decks which are not looked for because they seem to have bad local rating.
even though Jer mentioned it, I still think everybody (and especiallly serge) undervalues Yarok. Yaroks doubles the ETB triggers that ANY permanent entering the battlefield triggers.
this is strong with enchantmants and artifacts, but is especially strong with LANDS. got tatyova? any land entering the battlefield draws you 2 cards and gains 2 life. got any other creature with landfall? landfall triggers TWICE. Fetchland? FOUR landfall triggers.
i think that it would be worth it if you took and hour and watched the latest game knights episode on the command zone, i know commanders is not like canlander, but thwe game really shows you the power of Yarok. so, dont undervalue him, and Serge, if you read this, i believe Yarok would be a great addition to the sultai lands deck you are playing in the league and you should definitley try him.
If i am missing or misunderstanding anything i would also like to know what fo you think i got wrong about Yarok.
The biggest thing about him is he cost 5 and does nothing when hitting the bord.
@@swiftdragonrider tatyova costs 5 too, and Yarok just powers everything up when he gets in and also has a good, hard to burn body with deathtouch and lifelink
One thing you might be overlooking is that Yarok doesn't have that much impact when he comes into play, his stats are okay and all but the truth of the matter is that (probably) the soonest it gets down is turn 3 and there are probably faster clocks around.
I think Yarok wants a dedicated blink deck so your knight of autumn and similar effects do their thing more (a deck that interacts more than serge does when he plays lands) and wins later in the game.
Commander is also (from what I've seen since I don't play highlander myself) very different from a format in which the starting life total is 20 and you only have one opponent the entire tetyova thing is cute but ultimately still low impact for what the investment is.
At least that's what I say, a stranger on the internet who doesn't own moxen and only a bayou from the original duallands.
@@flamingrock9978 tatyova draws a card and gains a life with only a land drop worst case for yarok is a 3/5 life link. Also i am not sure tatyova sees play
The reason that cards like Tatyova see some play is because she is a stand alone engine card that if left unchecked wins the game by herself. Yarok requires an additional engine card and kicks them into overdrive. The issue is Yarok doesn't win the game by itself and most of your other engine cards will. Due to the speed/hyper interactivity present in the format playing a card that is only good with other good cards is often just win more. The difficulty is finding a spot for Yarok where it is good enough by itself or is a good enough engine by itself (eg Blink).
Serge with the perfect timing on Ben's tagline there!
I play Ilharg in my Saskia aggro deck. The best thing I have put in with him is old Gisela (Gisela, Blade of Goldnight), which is my highest CMC card. He is an insta-kill target in my group now, which is exactly where I want him.
love Alex's look, today and always. Getting an especially lovely younger-"The Dude"-energy this episode
Yo Yes Hello You Are Wheeler, you can't talk about Zombie Aristocrats like that and not give us a list, man. I want to see if I can give it a go in Australian Highlander.
I want this too
when this is comment is 1h old you missed the first 10minutes of LRR friday night paper fight
No joke, I actually switched to twitch from this comment. nice job :D
8:33 Wheeler, one, Cameron Lauder would like a word with you....
According to gatherer, if you search for cards not in the sets Unglued, Unhinged, and Unstable (gatherer doesn't have the holiday cards listed so they get skipped automatically), you return currently 19,131 unique card names. So yeah, there's a lot of cards and in the next year we may pass 20,000!
Removing Ante cards, Chaos Orb, and Falling Star, it comes down to 18,094 total.
edit: Oh I just realized this removes Steamflogger boss, so it should be 18,095! and 19,132 for the total black border cards!
second edit: my search may have excluded cards that have the letters "ante" but not just the ante cards, so it's hard to get a perfect number. Also by excluding the unsets, the basic might have been excluded too lol. This is harder to get an exact number of than I thought.
I've never heard it called swamp water. I mainly know it as a lasertron surprise from where I used to work
I've played mono black dredge at locals, it got some 2-2s. I'm a hardcore Orzhov player so I don't have green or blue cards to add, which would add much better engine cards in terms of self milling. I actually think there's potential for dredge, there's a lot of graveyard payoff stuff out there. Think Ancient Grudge and Ray of Revelation...
Great advice by Ben at the end.
36:23 "Get out of my podcast!"... This is the content I'm here for!
I agree with Jers’ answer to question 2
I concur
hey, that's my name!
Well, now I need to send LRR my thousands of Hovermyrs.
Jojoforpres now you know why CardKingdom's out of them
Not joking please don't
I don't actually have any, so no worries.
Jer, are you actually open to playing online chess with me? I challenge you!
Here's what I wonder. How would you feel about playing a non-wizards organized tourney against a player with transparently proxy cards?
Can someone explain to me the "Get in the Six, Wrenn!" joke, and with the hand? I don't get it! Maybe it's a language thing (my mother language is not English) or some meme I'm missing, but I just don't get it hahaha
That whole conversation was a reference to the anime Neon Genesis Evangelion. Ben calls 6 an "eva," after the giant robots from the series, and "Get in the robot, Shinji!" is a well known meme referring to the main character's reluctance to be anything resembling what we would call a main character. As for the hand joke... well, let's just say there's an "interesting" scene from the sequel film.
It's a good show (and on Netflix now too)
@@moxpebble3505 Right! I didn't get that reference. I always wanted to see that show but never got to. I'll definitely though, I've been told is a kick ass show!
Thanks a lot for clearing that up! :D
Mulldrifter is a Pauper staple.
What are your thoughts on viewer submission "Powerful Magic!"?
No shoutout to Card Kingdom this time?
pretty sure they dont sponsor North 100
Huh looks like you're right and I've just never noticed that before. Carry on then :P
Cool people tho
The best. Lemme tell ya. There's no one better.
It would be a color nightmare, but I wonder how degenerate Yarok and Ilharg would be together. Reoccurring double ETB effects.
How would double Emrakul, Promised End even work? You control 2 turns, then they get one? And
Emrakul's is a cast trigger, not an ETB, so you can't copy it without a Strionic Resonator.
What hearthstone card did Yarok rip off? Murmering elemental?
Brann Bronzebeard I assume
@@samuelmeyer4119 That's a bit of a stretch...
Sorry, Ben. When I think of lands, I think of Surge
V E N G E F U L ~ D E A D
Tangentially to the first question: Do you think, given time and growth, Canlander will become solved? i.e, is the format diversity of Canlander dependent on its (relative to other formats) small size?
The fact that it is also not competative and small. But look at modern it is also not exactly solved.
@@swiftdragonrider Canlander definitely IS competitive, even though it isn't played in places like pro tours (whatever their new name is, mythic championship I think?) There are other big tournaments.
@@Alpsus yes and now it is tiny it is localy competative not majorly competative.
Can we put a stop to putting down mill and trying to steer players from playing mill? If they wanna play mill, that's their prerogative, and sure they'll lose some matches but if they enjoy that kind of game it's not up to you to try and steer them away from that.
Unfortunately, part of the podcast is that it's inherently a competitive format and you should be playing to win, and non-combo mill is never an option that's maximizing your win chances in Highlander.
People are always welcome to play what they want, but while giving advice on the podcast I'm not going to pretend incidental mill isn't a poor strategy in our format. It's just bad, and not even in a fun way. It simply does not work in this format apart from combo mill.