Is it the end? (Or can YOU do something in 2024?)
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- Опубликовано: 30 июл 2024
- What should you be learning in 2024 to be successful as a network engineer? Which skills and trends are most important. Or am I wasting my time because AI will take away our jobs?
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07:31 - Let’s talk AI
14:09 - Chat GPT
18:07 - What is AI?
22:57 - What jobs are safe from AI?
23:43 - AI is a helping tool
26:37 - Top 10 Skills 2024
31:05 - Coding mediums
32:58 - Automating the setup
39:20 - More about the vendors
43:24 - Top 10 Skills 2024
47:11 - Are Certifications valuable in 2024?
49:59 - Jack of trades vs know it all
51:42 - Certificates
56:44 - Do market research
58:47 - Broad job market
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What should you be learning in 2024 to be successful as a network engineer? Which skills and trends are most important. Or am I wasting my time because AI will take away our jobs?
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00:00 - Coming up
01:02 - Story time
02:38 - Intro
04:01 - Network Engineer in 2024?
07:31 - Let’s talk AI
14:09 - Chat GPT
18:07 - What is AI?
22:57 - What jobs are safe from AI?
23:43 - AI is a helping tool
26:37 - Top 10 Skills 2024
31:05 - Coding mediums
32:58 - Automating the setup
39:20 - More about the vendors
43:24 - Top 10 Skills 2024
47:11 - Are Certifications valuable in 2024?
49:59 - Jack of trades vs know it all
51:42 - Certificates
56:44 - Do market research
58:47 - Broad job market
01:01:33 - Walk your path
01:02:19 - Why networking?
01:04:20 - Lab project
01:06:51 - How do I get experience?
01:10:35 - Advice
01:12:14 - Go to Ipspace.org
01:14:54 - Outro
ccna
linux
devnet
python
ansible
Please note that links listed may be affiliate links and provide me with a small percentage/kickback should you use them to purchase any of the items listed or recommended. Thank you for supporting me and this channel!
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CURRENTLY studying my CCNA 200-300 because you inspired me! Thank you for everything David!
@@coolgeek8199Fantastic! Thank you for your support :)
BT in the UK are replacing all of these jobs with AI, by end of the decade, with 50,000 jobs being lost.
This is planned once the full FTTP program Openreach complete.
hey david thaks for your work on this really appreciate it .... the ipspace URL pointing to the log in page and locked ...have you tried?
7u 9:13 👀
As a network engineer retired 2023; my advice is to learn the OSI model well and learn protocol-analysis and packet-decodes. Learning TCP/IP inside/out is your best friend!
Do you have recommended learning material for truly grokking the model?
And routing
What else. We need more information on that
I will be back to attend to this
@@Slarti27-gy1xj Read the actual RFCs for yourself. I would also say W. Richard Stevens' "TCP/IP Illustrated, Volume 1" is mandatory reading. And use Wireshark as much as possible. This is extremely educational and very important if you want to be able to troubleshoot when things don't work.
Intern (a few months) ---> Desktop (1yr; yes, it is helpful while you learn IP) ----> CCNA ---> NOC engineer (and never stop certs, learning and then pushing your manager for more and be ready for gaps when people move/leave). 202x ... you should have Bash, Python and security basics too.
It's Mr. Bombal! Asking all the right questions and just getting straight into it. This is free mentorship with actionable steps and guidance! Thank you!
Thank you! I appreciate it! My goal is to try to ask all the important questions :)
How the hell did you manage to upload so many long videos with high quality content in such a short time? Every 2 days, GREAT videos comes up. My respect!
Thank you David always inspirational. You guest is correct the fundamentals are critical and AI will continue to evolve out toolsets however like your guest pointed out jobs will evolve. Networking will live!
Ivan had some incredible insight. Thank you David for being a great host by driving the conversation, keeping things on point, and asking pertinent questions.
Thank you and happy new year
Thank you for your Great Effort David 🧡
I love these kinds of videos. Im new to IT. I just bought your ccna course and am going through Jeremy's it labs. When I'm done with both I will take boson practice labs and hope to be in a junior network engineering role by summer. Thank you David! Linux, python and cloud certs will be on my list.
I'm also exactly in the same journey as you, so you're taking David Bombals course? I'm actually confused which one to take in the udemy. Saw a youtuber recommending Kevin Wallace's one! Since I have no clue whatsoever, I'm confused eventho they all do have high ratings in udemy. So I guess it doesn't really matter which one I take! Haha
@@tasfiquesaber7934 You can't go wrong with either of them, but I got Jeremy's IT lab, its pretty good!
I have my CompTIA A+, Net+, Linux+, and Sec+. Currently studying for my CCNA.
but do you have a job?
@@robbirobson7330mans asking the real questions
@@robbirobson7330seems like no
@@robbirobson7330 That's the kicker. Where I live there's 5 colleges/universities and about 10 job postings on any given week for an Admin or Engineer job. I've got a family and can't take a $18/hour job on a helpdesk hoping to make $50k years down the road.
Have you got a job kid
That lightning potency and ice potency!!!! Good job man. I got change up my wishlist a bit
Perhaps the best career podcast in recent years, reminds us networks still have good old classic trainers who want to see new comers
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Thank you, Sir. It's highly helpful for those who need a road map for Networking.
So nice to hear you, thankyou
I've been on the cabling infrastructure side for many years and for many years I've also looked at ccna (to begin with). And the point is that i came across your name on linked in. I looked you up on youtube and now you have inspired me to take a step towards that direction.
Thank you!
Go for it! Learning with David changed my life for the better! Good luck!
Thank you!
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thank you
David you are the king. You know how to get to the meat & potatoes of the matter. Furthermore this channel is a gold mine because you bring the experts here.
00:06 Importance of understanding networking fundamentals
02:57 Consider becoming a networking engineer in 2024
09:16 AI's limitations and challenges in training
12:41 Neural network-based models lack deeper understanding of the world
19:18 AI and ML are crucial in VC pitches for 2024
22:23 AI can't replace human intelligence
28:50 Version control is crucial for managing text data.
31:44 Choosing between Python and Ansible for coding and automation.
38:05 Tool automates network configuration across different platforms
41:15 Running a lab with open source tools is cost-effective
47:24 Networking can be a rewarding profession with value in 2024
50:42 Explore interesting skills and consider career goals for 2024.
57:13 Local job market may differ from global trends
1:00:36 CCIE job market and the changing landscape of networking skills
1:06:49 Gain experience without a job
1:09:53 Invest in fundamentals and soft skills
Skilled people with enough knowledge to understand how things actually work will always be in demand. Yes, AI will do most of the easier work and remove a lot of simple jobs like working in the register in stores etc. But in the IT industry, what to do when something does not work and AI is not able to fix it?
AI will remove jobs and AI will create jobs. That's the "regular" cycle of new technology and development of society
Watching from Assam India, thanks for the amazing content
Thank you sir
Networking is still alive! Not sure about total replacing by DevOps or else.
Great interview! Probably one of my favorites. Right up there with the interview with robin(?) marx about QUIC.
This was a very good interview. I ran across this on your site while looking up how to recreate a pluralsiight lab in CML2.6 with 4 routers and an internet cloud for DMVPN. The title caught my attention.
Your interviews with Ivan is just a classic at this point. I've been hoping for its 2024 version for weeks. Thanks a lot David, as usual amazing content.
Glad you enjoyed it! Ivan is amazing!
Coding is easy to learn and replicate. When it comes to systems engineering, systems management, systems troubleshooting, the learning data doesn’t really exist. You’d need a different type of AI. This guy explains the difference perfectly. The decision trees don’t exist yet. The AI would need to spend time learning a specific environment, and most companies aren’t ready to allow an AI to run wild on their network making changes. Coding is easier to play with in a test environment.
Cope
If AI saves the company money, it'll be implemented. The bugs will be worked around and resolved.
Thank you
You're welcome
Thank you like your interviews a lot from South Africa
You welcome! Viva South Africa :)
Watching u from dominican republic 🇩🇴
Thank you for your support! And welcome Dominican Republic!
David thank you, love you for Iran❤❤❤
Thank you! Welcome Iran!
I really respect Ivan.
That's pure gold.
thanks for interesting insights. somehow when we speak fundamentals - shell scripting is often being forgotten to be mentioned, great and native linux power with almost 0% maintenance
Great video, David!
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it
Great as always
Glad you think so!
I was thinking yesterday to comment sir David bombal to make a vedio with Eric sir. And David sir made it. Such a genius person David bombal sir is. Your are amazing sir❤❤❤❤
Thank you :)
I love this guy
Great video...thanks
Glad you liked it!
Good Job David.. ❤️ 4rm USA
Thank you!
Ivan says there is free access to his content, this seems not to be true!!
Thank you very much to your volunteers to teach our community thank you God bless you
But I have questions to know about the programming language.
How I get I learn programming on my free time
David Bombal has an interview with Dr. Chuck's "Master Programmer" . Google David and Dr.Chuck "Master Programmer "and you will find what you are looking for.
When the television was invented, actors paniced cuz they thought they would soon be out of work. Not only did they not lose their jobs, but also new opportunities were created for them. I don' think AI is gonna replace us.
I think a lot of people agree with you (and a lot don't). As some have said... "You won't lose your job to AI, you will lose your job to a person that uses AI". I think there's a lot of truth in that statement.
TV greatly reduced the number of acting jobs but created jobs for sound, editing, media, make up, etc.
I don't think this is the best analogy because TV took actors to places they could have not reached.
But it's your opinion tho...
@@davidbombalAs you said it is deep root statement. I have been in confusion about how the future. We calculated thousands of calculations in mind before calculator, but now 😂. It seems like a horror movie daily to check what came out today as an tech update.
@@fotuneTechGlobal That's true. Let's hope AI will do the same for us.
In Singapore, there are lot of “Network Engineer” vacancies. But when you read the job description. Its about servers, VM, Cloud, DevOps. There is no more pure networking jobs. The only network jobs are at the CCIE level.
David, I love watching your videos and thanks so much for sharing them. I'd like to make a suggestion. Although the animation in the video is interesting, but I feel like it distracted me quite a bit when listening and watching your videos. Can you minimize the use of animation in your videos?
Wow amazing topic thanks so much David
Thank you. You're welcome :)
Can I just say that the amount of work an effort it must have took to post all these videos since the beginning of the year is amazing
Thank you. It's been a lot of work :) But, hopefully it helps everyone in their journey this year :)
@@davidbombal I am certain it will!
I often hear people making the argument that there will always be network engineers, just like there will always be plumbers, electricians, etc. While it's true that network engineers will not go away altogether, people making this argument often leave out the fact that there have been fewer and fewer of these kinds of networking jobs over the last 10 years... Added to this indignity is the fact that these more stable networking jobs that currently exist are being monopolized by people who have been in the industry. So the question you should really be asking yourself is: how smart is it to get into a field that is (and has been) shrinking?
Black belt Bombal looking nice.
True. Parsing and understanding intent is not something a machine can imitate fast it takes time for ai to have understanding as human heart and thats the reason why human should manage ai and not the opposite.
Thanks a lot for providing such good content...
And i am from India and i want to invite you for your next holiday trip. I am always available to welcome you any time any day in India ❤...
Thank you very much! And I appreciate your warm invite :)
Good ❤ from India
Waiting for this video ❤
Thank you. I hope you enjoy it :)
It's funny that you guys say plumbing and electrical. I have a computer repair and services business but I also do handyman/construction. My favorite parts of the construction work are electrical and plumbing. They're the things that not just any construction worker can do or do well yet I prefer them because there's a lot of problem solving involved.
a "sloppy", "overhyped", "overconfident" "intern" is an apt description of a.i. at this current time. ironically those qualities of unqualified people tend to get hired by h.r. over someone telling a more realistic truth during job interviews.
Thanks David! We have allot to consider for the future of our professions in IT | IS.
Agreed. But I think there are a lot of opportunities for us at the moment :)
Heading into the future, Learning to use Linux is number one on the list...
Number 2 on that list should be SOFT skills...
How you deal with people, problems and management is crucial now...
3 should be ADAPTABILITY...If a person can migrate between mobile, static work stations and deal
with clients and customers efficiently - that's the person I want to HIRE...
Networking will always be around, you need a physical person..i.m a network engineer, and there is no way AI can replace this, simple stuff too, like wireless networking, Aruba and Unify
Long story short - yes, most people are wasting their time and stand no chance against AI. But the ones whom are not replaced will propel to new heights, and we will see the greatest wealth gap in the history of modern society.
Do not interpret this pessimistically, it’s just the most statistically probable outcome.
I for one am excited for the future!
I'm going for the A+ Cert first before my CCNA. It seems like you can't get many jobs with a CCNA and no IT job experience.
I don't want to be an alarmist, but if in the hypothetical case, not too far in time from now, that we find ourselves and the internet under the attack of an orchestated massive cyber threat (aka Killware or CyberPolygon), I think it would be great to know how to create new networking infrastructure.. a software-based one I suppose, although the possibilities are endless if we all prepare with enough knowledge. I don't know what path human kind would follow in that circumstance, but I bet my savings to the most resilient creativity 😊 I guess we'll find out haha
Love you my brother ❤
Thank you!
Like him I don't think AI will take our jobs. Take network monitoring, in a way you could say they are AI, there's some super powerfull stuff out there. They basically do all the troubleshooting we had to do before they existed, but we still need to feed them with all the correct data, create all the sensors, dependancies, create dashboards and setup the notifications for it to work.
You might even spend more resources and time running and maintaining it, but you still need to physically go and solve the problem, support will still get that phonecall, but it's a different type of conversation already knowing what's wrong. AI will shift our attention, but the fundamentals will remain the same, it's important to learn these fundamentals, these "blueprints".
Take a bow sir....for you have an uncanny ability to release high quality content with such regularity!! The sheer amount of hardwork and tenacity required to put up such content day after day is simply unimaginable!! Hats off to you.
🙏🙏🙏
Thank you very much! Lots more coming soon :)
@@davidbombal If you could do an episode where a senior data storage guy discusses future for other senior data storage guys and the avenues they could explore, that'd be awesome!!
I love your content and will keep watching but 4 ads in less than 10 mins of video is insane.... 😢
I think a human also acts purely on statics. We use multiple large language models simultaneously. Once computers have the same processing power like our brains have and are able to use multiple large language models simultaneously and harmoniously, I think we can consider it then GAI. They are only children now growing up.
I doubt it's an additive problem. It's far more complex that's why they can't achieve AGI
if anything, there will become an increased demand for prompt engineering. It'll allow skilled workers to become more effective and reduce the tedious work.
To me, it's like Excel. Just because you're not doing it the harder slower way on paper doesn't mean you're not needed. You just need to know more about different things.
Learning the basics helps you learn the more advanced stuff faster. Like Ivan said there are two words in DevNet and one of them is networking. Learning Python and scripting is important but you can be the best coder in the world but it won’t mean much if you don’t understand the basics of networking.
I promise you this position will not go away any time soon.
Great talk! Appreciate the perspective on this... 🍻
Great to see you here Matt! And thank you :)
I've given up on network engineering. It's not because of how hard it is or the changing technologies. It's because it's not really a engineering field. More like a admin position in engineers clothing; I thought engineers design and build things. I've since moved on to software development.
yes, chatGPT's 'breadth' is amazing! ...it's 'depth' not so much,
Thank you David for your valuable information. ❤
You're welcome!
Cumulus Linux did do a Linux networking course and certification.
I use gpt almost every day for various things. It's useful, but he's absolutely correct. For now at least. In the longer term I think it's a different story, the way I have always looked at this is: We know intelligence is possible because we all have a real world example sitting on our shoulders. It's not something like fusion where we know it's possible but the requirements are extreme, we know fusion is possible, but we don't know that it could be practical as a power source. Our own brains have pretty low energy requirements and likely are not particularly physically exotic. It's inevitable I think that we increasingly figure this out, and when we do I suspect we will find that we are pathetically stupid in comparison to what is possible. At that point we really will face these existential questions people are losing their minds over today.
It takes time though for industries to actually apply the technology, even once it's available we are very slow at that. Very few businesses have molded their business processes around technology we have had for over 20 years. There simply has not been enough skilled people to do the work and as a result almost every industry runs off line of business applications which are basically crimes against humanity.
I think A.I. needs something more advanced than modern computers in order to make that next big jump. That’s where Quantum Computing comes in. Mark my words once they make a huge breakthrough in QC the world will change. It will be the next generation of computing and combined with systems like A.I. will allow for huge leaps n advancements in almost all sectors.
@@user-rr3fo6hy9q I very much doubt that high level intelligence requires quantum computing, there's no real evidence that our own brains depend on it. I think the real story that will play out is that we will discover that our own intelligence is easily surpassed with what will become very conventional technologies.
David these interviews are amazing
Thank you. I'm glad you are enjoying them :)
You will never be able to learn more or do it faster. Just a fact, hence why we have computers in the first place. If you want my advice as someone who has been in IT for 22+ years and currently works in cybersecurity, learn a trade or another skill that cannot be easily automated because these jobs are absolutely on the verge of being or are being replaced as I type this. Sorry for the reality check, but copium and hopium are not going to put food on your table. Remember, these channels have to keep you coming back so that they earn revenue. The facts on the ground and the exponential growth of AI say differently than these and other channels want you to believe.
Network Consultant since the late 80s. 100% this.
now a days networks are very complicated, on-prim, cloud, hybrid, cloud proxy, underlay, overlay, SDWAN, SDDC, DNA, Automation and lot of other things are under headache of network engineer 🤪
Linux is a must for modern-day network engineers, learn Linux in general, deep dive into Linux Netfilter framework. You don't need to know or write DPDK/XDP code, but knowing Netfilter framework, is, in my opinion, critical.
or just let AI do that linux for you. :P
@@tsuyax6054 how will you know what to ask AI for if you don't Linux in the first place??!!
Interesting topic you presented!
I am beginner in this field . I have basic networking knowledge. should I take ccnp enterprise in 2024 . Do you recommended this certification?
Sorry for looking stupid but I didn’t understand what was he saying at 1.06.0 please explain more
mantap
The most realistic book Ive read on the subject is "Super Intelligence" by Nick Bostrom. People have no comprehension of the gravity of what will happen once the cat is out of the bag.
People are so afraid of A.I. but I’m more worried about Quantum Computing. Combine QC with A.I. and now we’ve got something to be worried about.
hey sir, should i join you at yearly! jwhats the fee and support by you
I fear the day we will try to turn our phones off and it will write : sorry, i don’t feel like turning myself off right now…
- David Spade
Networking is great but there are is for me at least one big issue companies are outsourcing networking to Indian companies so your
job will not last long in the current climate.
That’s why you become a consultant.
I had Chat GPT write some python code and it was not correct. I knew the correct answer, but I wanted Chat GPT to tell me the correct answer. I rephrased my question over and over again, and the dumb AI could not get it right.😢
My Google Home works correctly about 50% of the time so I always laugh when people freak out about A.I. when these companies can’t even program a home assistant to work properly but we’re worried about A.I. taking over?
One Q I would have liked to see put to Ivan is. What is your top 5 books about Networking and fundamentals to understand it deeply?
I was Cisco certified in 2000 (Y2K) making $92/hr contract. Now the rate for similar work is in the $40 range. Glad I retired.
Wow thats messed up
Jobs are safe for anyone extremely good at what they do. Everyone one else is done
Love from India
Thank you! And welcome India!!!
i'm 41 year ols would it be smart to change my career to system/network engineer? the education would be 2 years full day school and it is a bottleneck profession here in belgium.
here in belgium if you follow a bottleneck profession study you will keep your benefits. pc's overclocking ect were always my kind of stuf.
That is correct, I take interviews and most of the guys fail to explain basic packet flow.
most vendors claim they have AI in built, but actually are not AI and not suited for customer use-case
Dude, when everything goes to shit, everybody goes to the network people.
I worked at Major companies, and everywhere its the same.
They always blame the network first, but also run to the network department when they are out of options/solutions.....
When he says learn Linux, i'm assuming he means every part of it (scripting, command line commands, etc.). What's the best thing to start on?
Look up the Linux Bible by Christopher Negus.
@@Maf980 I've seen that book. Thanks!
I’ve learned a lot about Linux just by installing it to use GNS3. Ubuntu is a good way to learn some basic Terminal commands, etc. I actually love Ubuntu it’s a lot like Windows without all the fluff.
AI will not have the physical capacity to run wires, swap out a nic, install a new router, physically test hardware etc. Ai would just help streamline the brain power needed for the software aspect of networking like subnet calculations etc.
I think a lot of people agree with you.... but we have companies like Boston Dynamics and Tesla Bot .... so I think that horse has already bolted as they say.
I do not believe those jobs will pay much. Not enough to live on much less a family
@@u82zar true. Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. Depends on contract, length of time, etc.
I’ll worry about A.I. when they can create a decent home assistant. I’m looking at you Google and Amazon. Personally I think we’re putting the cart before the horse, worrying about A.I. taking out jobs when in reality they can’t program a decent home assistant (Google Home/Amazon Alexa).
Thank you David for making these interviews and for preparing the questions we would ask.
You're welcome!
Love for India ❤❤❤🥰🥰
Thank you! Welcome India :)
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