Thorfinn - One of the Greatest Redemption Stories (Vinland Saga)

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  • @SagesRain
    @SagesRain  9 месяцев назад +765

    i have no enemies. thank you for watching.

    • @JOJO-sb3br
      @JOJO-sb3br 9 месяцев назад +9

      Ty for Making

    • @hish33p32
      @hish33p32 9 месяцев назад +4

      Great video

    • @mrpoetic4
      @mrpoetic4 9 месяцев назад +2

      Not sure if you take requests but Shirou emiya

    • @joshuapage853
      @joshuapage853 9 месяцев назад +6

      "You have heard that it was said , 'You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise for the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. For if you love those who love you what reward do you have? Do not even tac collectors do the same? If you greet only your brothers, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same? Therefore you are to be perfect as your heavenly Father is perfect." Matthew 5:43-48

    • @joeford5181
      @joeford5181 9 месяцев назад

      Here comes Grounds Keeper Willy

  • @DagothUr69
    @DagothUr69 9 месяцев назад +933

    Einar is the embodiment of a best friend. Einar is the friend that cures your depression

    • @vaidehidave2796
      @vaidehidave2796 6 месяцев назад +9

      He reminds me of Samwise from LoTR though they are both very different

    • @ViperDivinity
      @ViperDivinity 6 месяцев назад +9

      The author admits that Einar is a character for Thorfinn.

    • @Voideadd
      @Voideadd 3 месяца назад

      Except those 10 seconds he had that cobra clutch on my bois throat 😭

    • @FatGuyEngineer
      @FatGuyEngineer Месяц назад

      Bro beat up thorfinn several times through acts of rage and even attempted choking thorfinn to death in his sleep. He ain't that good of a friend.

    • @DagothUr69
      @DagothUr69 Месяц назад

      @@FatGuyEngineerYou're telling me if you found out your best friend was part of the same group that murdered your whole family and made you a slave. The group that changed your life permanently, robbed you of your childhood, and did the same to tens of thousands of people, you wouldn't be filled with rage and vengeance? I don't believe you. And Einar was able to find peace and forgive Thorfinn, that is an unspeakable level of forgiveness

  • @Zeus57234
    @Zeus57234 9 месяцев назад +1109

    For me Thorfinn, Zuko, and Jamie Lannister will always be the holy trinity of redemption stories.

    • @philithegamer8265
      @philithegamer8265 9 месяцев назад +32

      Why do you say this to what happened to Jamie Lannister in the later seasons of Game of Thrones?

    • @dimitrimoore3319
      @dimitrimoore3319 9 месяцев назад +163

      Jamie in the books DEFINITELY NOT IN THE SHOW

    • @karan3658
      @karan3658 9 месяцев назад +58

      Someone forgot guts from Berserk

    • @lukejones2363
      @lukejones2363 9 месяцев назад +8

      Don’t forget Catra

    • @jaieregilmore971
      @jaieregilmore971 9 месяцев назад +17

      Anakin really needs i have no enemies speech.

  • @shantishan1172
    @shantishan1172 9 месяцев назад +627

    "I want that which surpasses the merciful release of death, i want to be able to give arnheid a satisfying answer, i want peace and salvation in the mortal realm, and if such a thing doesn't exist, then i'll create it."
    - Thorfinn

  • @aychazyt6987
    @aychazyt6987 9 месяцев назад +228

    There's a moment in the manga that rly stands out to me. Two soldiers were captured by the jomsvikings to be executed. One of them starts questioning the point of life, wondering if there's anything more to it than war and battle(being a viking basically). Meanwhile, the other one cries and complains for not being able to die in battle, wishing to go to Valhalla to eat, drink and sleep with the valkyries until Ragnarok comes. Upon hearing all of this, the first guy responds,"But isn't that what we've always been doing?"

    • @robstefani9853
      @robstefani9853 3 месяца назад +7

      I literally just read that for the first time last night. This is one of the best series I've ever read and I would recommend it to anyone without hesitation.

  • @itsasquid
    @itsasquid 9 месяцев назад +300

    Thorfinn, Kratos, and Zuko have some of my favorite redemption arcs of all time. His story is genuinely an incredible experience.

    • @jde3724
      @jde3724 8 дней назад +1

      And Arthur Morgan, the redemption squad

  • @Caine61
    @Caine61 3 месяца назад +10

    Thorfinn's arc in season 2 helped me better myself as a person. To put old grudges to rest and be more open / understanding of people around me; even those who may seem rude or uncaring, everyone has a story behind their actions. I have no enemies.

  • @lachlanle7940
    @lachlanle7940 9 месяцев назад +159

    "When I look at the work of other manga artists, sometimes the faces are well drawn, but the *hands* are not. To put it bluntly, if I were to choose among artists, I would choose them by how they draw their hands. Hands are the most expressive part of a character, after the face... You can fake a facial expression, but your hands will show how hard you work...If you show the character's life in their hands, you'll get a good result."
    - Makoto Yukimura

    • @TheLegend-mu6zg
      @TheLegend-mu6zg 9 месяцев назад +16

      very interesting quote. That panel of thorfinn and einar shaking hands infront of Arnheid's grave always stood out to me, was drawn so well.

    • @thirteen_candles9806
      @thirteen_candles9806 7 месяцев назад +7

      I noticed the chipped broken nails of thorfin, Einar, and even arnheid just shows what they go through everyday, even the masters favorite slave has rough hands. It's something i've never noticed before in any other anime/manga unless the hands are the focal point of the page/scene.

  • @danielhwang2221
    @danielhwang2221 9 месяцев назад +155

    I swear, sage’s rain is one of the most underrated RUclipsrs out there

  • @everettenjeze6276
    @everettenjeze6276 9 месяцев назад +182

    As a martial artist who trains with other martial artists, Vinland saga has changed my life for the better in so many ways. A true warrior must be capable of inflicting brutal acts of violence but only in defense of yourself and others. Never to satisfy one’s ego to prove superiority over others because you make enemies with people you do not know which leads to unnecessary conflict in life. The discipline to use kindness and understanding is real strength rather then trying to physically bend someone to your will because you do not learn anything from meaningless violence and only hurt yourself or die in the process. Thors and thorfinn are the ideal warriors people should aspire to be like and askeladd is a perfect example of a warrior helping the youth stay away from a path that will lead them no where in life and end up like him. Like Naruto and attack in titan, Vinland saga will change the world as well for the better.

    • @emmaelstad341
      @emmaelstad341 4 месяца назад

      I completely agree we need more people like us man

    • @Gotti69420
      @Gotti69420 3 месяца назад

      I agree with everything except for the Askeladd part

  • @Salemwaaa
    @Salemwaaa 9 месяцев назад +84

    “I have no enemies” I love how Thorfinn started as a child who was so hell bent on vengeance, and as the years went that hate never left his soul.
    I love that how Thorfinn craved the death of only one man but yet once Askeladd had died, he lost it all the way Thorfinn had hit the very _VERY_ bottom…he only moved upward.
    Although his road was paved with broken glass and blood Thorfinn at least tried his best to atone for everything he did; moving forward and stumbling along the way.

  • @deeegeeekay
    @deeegeeekay 9 месяцев назад +229

    I don’t watch all your videos, only the ones about my interests, but I would consider you my favorite RUclipsr. The way you make videos is so pleasant and thought-out, I appreciate the effort. Thorfinn has slowly become one of my favorite characters in fiction.

    • @SagesRain
      @SagesRain  9 месяцев назад +38

      thank you!

    • @deeegeeekay
      @deeegeeekay 9 месяцев назад +12

      @@SagesRain Thank you as well! Love your Stoic perspective on cinema and the philosophy you bring to light, that some might’ve missed.

  • @auroralee3934
    @auroralee3934 8 месяцев назад +59

    Honestly this is the redemption arc i wanted to see with Uchiha Sasuke's character. The depth in Thorfinn's character and the growth we see in him throughout the anime is astounding. This show is truly a masterpiece❤️

    • @haroldmoonwalkerharold3586
      @haroldmoonwalkerharold3586 8 месяцев назад +8

      yes!!! my thoughts exactly. I was just talking about this with someone. I wish Sasuke was given the same treatment as Thorfinn.

  • @feasibilyheretical
    @feasibilyheretical 9 месяцев назад +131

    I see so many people calling vinland saga boring after season 1, but I feel like those people are just as immature as thorfinn was chasing revenge just as people want to watch action and violence instead of taking a deeper look into what the story is trying to tell you.

    • @devynraydi1563
      @devynraydi1563 9 месяцев назад +7

      Honestly I was bored WATCHING season one, but once things were getting going in season 2 I had a change of heart. I see now what all the hype is about and I'm hear for it

    • @marvinjesteraquino1368
      @marvinjesteraquino1368 6 месяцев назад

      The banquet scene was the turning point in s1 imo.

    • @NenMagem9106
      @NenMagem9106 6 месяцев назад +3

      I am 17 and though I personally prefere season 1, season 2 is better in almost everything.

    • @victorpoli22
      @victorpoli22 5 месяцев назад +1

      11 episodes of slave farming and then he becomes a monk. Yeah, was boring.

    • @AidanS99
      @AidanS99 5 месяцев назад +11

      My bet is that younger audiences can’t relate to “looking back on your past experiences”. When you’re a kid, everything moves at lightning pace. There’s no time to slow down and take it all in. School and classes are changing yearly, classmates come and go. It’s all a bit of a blur while it happens and it’s not until it’s all over the we look back on it.
      I feel like I enjoy this show more because I can understand the weight of those quiet moments of reflection. I understand the tone that the slower pace carries. And from the very first episodes, I knew that Thorfinn’s true journey was to become the man his father always wanted him to be.

  • @vib2119
    @vib2119 9 месяцев назад +68

    Thorfinn's journey is the reason I am the person I am today. I read Vinland amd Vagabond at the best possible time in my life I think. I was 19 and the influence they have had on my can't be overstated. They helped me create myself, my identity as a guy. I love Thorfinn and Musashi so much, I legit couldn't be here without them.
    Oh and also Guts. And that's just when I am talking about anime, there's so many good male role models without whom my life would be so different. God I love stories and how big of an effect they can have on people.

  • @ngchloe4877
    @ngchloe4877 9 месяцев назад +24

    In just one season, Thorfinn went from a character I kinda sorta liked to one of my all time faves

  • @jvever4904
    @jvever4904 9 месяцев назад +34

    Thorfinn is one of my favorite anime characters of ALL time and I'm so glad people are finally realizing how great he is with the release of the anime's second season gaining more attention.

  • @Gadget-Walkmen
    @Gadget-Walkmen 9 месяцев назад +57

    At 20:08 is EXACTLY what I love as well about this magnificent story.
    The thing I absolutely LOVE about Vinland Saga is how absolutely self aware the whole series is and constantly questions everything that’s happening around it.
    For every Ideology, political view, philosophy, way of thinking that's brought up in the story from each of the characters, they always get logically and rationally challenged back and this is most note worthy from Thorfinn. Every time Thorfinn WANTS to desperately hold on his notion of peace, believing that there is a peaceful world somewhere, or thinking that he has no enemies, his ideas IMMEDIATELY gets challenged from a situation or characters who argue back of the issues they have with his ideals or try to challenge him at it putting him in constant complex situations.
    He breaks his promise to never use violence again TWICE because he was put in extremely complex situations that required him to fight back in order to save and protect the people around him which he couldn’t stand still when they were in danger.
    I absolutely love the fact the story and author is VERY self-aware of these things so conflict and arise in interesting ways that make the most amount of sense.
    It's what Naruto TRIED to do but this actually succeeded just based on the fact that Thorfinn's ideals and wants might not come to life and fall under disaster but the fact that he's trying regardless of everything that's weighing against just to see if he do it is extremely noble because he shows that he knows that humans CANNOT keep in living society where everyone keeps on killing each other in the worst possible way.

  • @ethanhansen1479
    @ethanhansen1479 9 месяцев назад +23

    Vinland saga truly made an impact on me. One of the greatest stories I have ever read. It is truly breathtaking at times

  • @AXIOSEDITZ
    @AXIOSEDITZ 9 месяцев назад +62

    Honestly I've been wanting you to do a vinland saga video. The characters are well developed and intriguing. Can't wait!✌

  • @rageingmang
    @rageingmang 9 месяцев назад +27

    No one has enemies, pumped for this one!

  • @maxxdank
    @maxxdank 9 месяцев назад +34

    This will be a masterpiece for sure. One of my fav anime and protagonists of all time 🔥

  • @andrewrentuaya9510
    @andrewrentuaya9510 7 месяцев назад +8

    "Promise me, son, not to do the things I've done
    Walk away from trouble if you can
    Now it won't mean you're weak if you turn the other cheek
    I hope you're old enough to understand
    Son, you don't have to fight to be a man"
    Lines from a song that resonates with Thorfinn

  • @elgatto3133
    @elgatto3133 8 месяцев назад +5

    There's a certain melancholic irony in knowing what Vinland is, and what actually happened there.
    War. War arrived in Vinland too. Viking settlement never lasted there. It never could have.
    500 years after Vinland fell, more people would find Vinland, make it a place of unimaginable slavery and cruelty even to the proud Vikings at the behest of empire.

  • @SageCortez
    @SageCortez 9 месяцев назад +12

    I hope this covers the manga too, not only the anime.
    His redemption is from the slave arc till the end of the manga.

    • @SagesRain
      @SagesRain  9 месяцев назад +19

      unfortunately i just ended it where the anime did. video was going to be far too long, though i agree with you

    • @SageCortez
      @SageCortez 9 месяцев назад +5

      I see i see. NP then :D
      I know the video will be fkin good regardless@@SagesRain

  • @Nandomo00
    @Nandomo00 9 месяцев назад +7

    I think it's one of the best development I've ever seen, and I'm not talking only about manga or anime, Thorfinn is in my top 10 characters after the second season, amazing

  • @lainaverse
    @lainaverse 5 месяцев назад +4

    I love the song choices. Campfire from FFXV is one of the most moving songs I love listening to and you placed it at a great part of the vid.
    I decided to watch your vid despite not wanting to watch Vinland Saga. An ex-lover kept pushing it and I see it's because he sees himself in Thorfinn because he was obsessed with fighting and hated himself.
    Him aside though, the conclusion resonated with my own sense of strength. I'm a short, petite, highly sensitive woman, so violence is an urge but not something I can rely on. I found a sense of respect for my compassion, empathy and love that I almost lost over the years.

  • @EmptyFeet
    @EmptyFeet 9 месяцев назад +11

    I've had my fingers crossed for a sage's rain vinland saga video for ages, and it doesn't disappoint. so glad you enjoyed it

  • @faa1412
    @faa1412 8 месяцев назад +7

    Let's not forget the only reason Askeladd killed Thors was because Flokie (sp?) paid him to do so. Askeladd even questioned or was curious as to why he wanted this hit out on Thors. He was just a middleman. Of course, Thorfinn didn't know this important info.

  • @MichaelGYT
    @MichaelGYT 9 месяцев назад +1

    This Is what I’ve been waiting for!! Much love❤

  • @RoadToDawn5
    @RoadToDawn5 9 месяцев назад

    Thank you so much for making this video on thorfin

  • @nevermore6354
    @nevermore6354 9 месяцев назад +1

    oh my god thank you so much for uploading this i knew this would be a great video

  • @alejandrozavala860
    @alejandrozavala860 9 месяцев назад

    Been waiting for this one, thank you.

  • @moisesmatias1125
    @moisesmatias1125 8 месяцев назад +1

    My heart is filled. Thank you.

  • @kuttu
    @kuttu 9 месяцев назад

    Absolute banger of a video
    Can't wait for more longer videos like this

  • @jefflee8652
    @jefflee8652 9 месяцев назад +3

    I can’t tell you how long have waited for this video. I’m so glad you got on the GOATLAND saga train

  • @notachargeshot6325
    @notachargeshot6325 9 месяцев назад +2

    This video was amazing. The music and how everything is phrased gives it a hard hitting feeling that resonates with me.

  • @coachprab2379
    @coachprab2379 6 месяцев назад +2

    This was such a beautiful video. Please never stop posting

  • @DarthSymbixte
    @DarthSymbixte 9 месяцев назад +1

    This is the first video I've ever seen of your's Sage. This is truly the most beautiful video i've ever seen of Vinland Saga. Portraying and capturing every element so perfectly for the reality of this melancholy story. Thank you soo much Sage. I had to like and subscribe❤

  • @andyquinn3996
    @andyquinn3996 9 месяцев назад +6

    I dont know if its your voice, your opinions or the way you narrate, but there is always something special and beautiful about your videos, they always soften me up, its such a great talent that you have.

  • @Explodingstrawberry125
    @Explodingstrawberry125 6 месяцев назад

    My friend, you are a true storyteller. Beautifully put.

  • @Frznwhrlpll
    @Frznwhrlpll 9 месяцев назад +4

    Of all the anime and character deep dive channels sage's rain will always stand out as premium content

  • @mikedomega4077
    @mikedomega4077 9 месяцев назад +3

    Dude I’ve been going through such a hard time recently and this video has helped me a ton, I’m not sure how you don’t have over a million subs, thank you my friend :)

  • @VeylmanTheRock
    @VeylmanTheRock 9 месяцев назад +1

    Finished this without pausing. Great video!

  • @plaguedr.crowvin3349
    @plaguedr.crowvin3349 3 месяца назад

    Your video just popped in my recommendations and now I have a new anime to watch thanks

  • @kaineosiagwu6231
    @kaineosiagwu6231 9 месяцев назад

    It's unreal how far you've came. Hope you continue to succeed!

  • @vib2119
    @vib2119 9 месяцев назад +33

    A few thoughts I had for people who see Thorfinn's philosophy as not applicable irl(there are some spoilers here!)
    Remember everything related to Thorfinn is to the extreme. Very few people would need to be so pacifistic, as they would not have his PTSD or Hild behind them. They can kill to defend themselves. Not to mention very few people would be followed by people like Garm, Thorkell or Jomvikings, they only followed Thorfinn because he is strong and strength attracts challenge. This imo is another important lesson of the whole series. His companions were left completely alone, in the whole manga pretty much. I don't think anyone of Thorfinn's crew has been attacked outside whenever Thorfinn was attacked. They are normal people they don't attract much conflict.
    So imo it will be much easier for normal people to follow Thorfinn's philosophy. Especially in the current world where little physical conflict is required to survive. Knowing enough self-defense to escape is more than enough for most people, there are very few people like Garm who will chase after them and constantly try to kill them over a number of days.
    And even in Thorfinn's world they don't really need his expertise at fighting when they have Hild and her brilliant mind which can create stuff like her crossbow. But they need Thorfinn's self control and morality, because with availability of weapons a problem presents itself, the more you arm yourself and the stronger anything or anyone becomes(person, community, village etc) the more conflict it or they will attract, even just by the virtue of having the means to escalate situations (let alone other factors like your strength making others uneasy among other reasons), you can see this in the latest chapters. When you have a sword in hand, it will want to quickly end problems with a slash and a weapon sometimes has a will of it's own.
    That's why the philosophy of no enemies and the mastery over your mind is so important. Seeing people as people and not enemies will reduce the likelihood of you escalating the violence of the situation. Its simple dont view people as enemies so you dont be the one to escalate situation and try to de-escalate whenever you safely can or else run. If none of those work, fight and try not to kill. Then if that doesn't work then kill.

  • @jackgaughan3756
    @jackgaughan3756 9 месяцев назад +1

    I’ve been WAITING for a sage’s rain breakdown on this show pls do more!

  • @shadyi
    @shadyi 9 месяцев назад +2

    Bro I just finished watching the show 1 day ago and I’m blessed with a Sages Rain vid! keep up the good work

  • @SCP-it4st
    @SCP-it4st 9 месяцев назад

    Truly love your videos. Just watched Vinland Saga a couple weeks ago so i was really surprised you made a video on it pretty much the day i was finished with the second season. Truly high quality analysis about the philosophical aspect of this series. Thanks alot enjoyed your video

  • @Aceofspades928
    @Aceofspades928 6 месяцев назад +2

    Ive only seen about a handful of panels from the manga but goodness the artwork is amazing. This was a great analysis on Thorfinn.

  • @EurickHidalgo
    @EurickHidalgo 3 месяца назад

    Iv watched this video so many times when I'm outside it's so harmonizing helps me focus on my goals and gives me prospective

  • @ComposedSage75
    @ComposedSage75 9 месяцев назад +2

    Thorfinn lived a life of anger, vengeance, resentment, struggle, violence, etc. He suffered and lived in misery all for the sake of taking down the object of his suffering. When he was denied that and the older he became he came to the realization that the cycle of violence and hate wasn’t worth it. In the famous line he sums up the mentality he reached the older he became and that is:
    *I have no enemies.*

  • @malikhorton9066
    @malikhorton9066 9 месяцев назад

    I been waiting for you to make this ❤

  • @speedracerxxl6269
    @speedracerxxl6269 9 месяцев назад +3

    Yesssir another sages rain video ⚡️🍾

  • @milanserfhos3413
    @milanserfhos3413 9 месяцев назад +2

    YES A SAGE'S RAIN VIDEO ON THORFINN, my life is complete

  • @Xaforn
    @Xaforn Месяц назад

    I love Vinland Saga so much, great video! People too often only want action and completely miss or speak negatively on the deeper aspects, there’s so much growth, so many stories, so many paths. Thorfinn is a great character and I’m so glad he found a great friend in Einar, something he’d been deprived of. There’s a lot to being a warrior, more than just physical prowess and I’m happy to see it being explored yet again in this. Also great reference by others about the details of their hands, the scars, calluses, broken and chipped nails all pointing to walking a hard life.

  • @gow6143
    @gow6143 9 месяцев назад

    been watching for years, excited for this breakdown of thorfinn, reminds me of the oldschool weapon x video, really liking it man, keep it up

  • @hameed4376
    @hameed4376 9 месяцев назад +1

    Beautifully done. Thorfinn is a true warrior for overcoming his past and trying to create a better future for himself and others.

  • @janellebattle9262
    @janellebattle9262 9 месяцев назад

    I really like your videos. Your voice is very soothing. Thank you!

  • @Quon_the_Destroyer
    @Quon_the_Destroyer Месяц назад

    Such a good show. And such a good video essay on it.

  • @raeldri5867
    @raeldri5867 9 месяцев назад +7

    You have no dislikes, man this was amazing

  • @_mosesb
    @_mosesb 9 месяцев назад +2

    12:30 I had to learn a similar lesson once, when i was confronted with true violence. I grew up on martial art movies, I'm naturally gifted so I grew up dominating almost all my fights but i always had this internalized "code" i wasn't even conscious of. Never beat someone more than necessary etc. I guess i imitiated modern martial artists stupid ideas of honour in a fight but there's no honour in a fight, biting, never use your hands only any weaponable object around, going for a kill, that's how dangerous people fight. Now even if i can win a fight i just avoid it, if that's not possible I run. For your safety fighting is always a last result. Never let a girl cause you to fight, because when there done with you she's not gonna throw hands.

  • @fatz8245
    @fatz8245 9 месяцев назад +2

    I love thorfinns character. He does something for me that no other character has done from my experience. Vinland saga is one of the best anime’s

  • @worldeater2414
    @worldeater2414 8 месяцев назад

    Your voice is a balm on ny weary soul, and your content impresses as always.

  • @serphn
    @serphn 9 месяцев назад +1

    Sage and a video about vinland saga? It’s therapy time.

  • @LushanSun
    @LushanSun 3 месяца назад

    Without your explanation I would have never understand the depth of most of the anime I've watched, Thankyou for your work ❤

  • @watermelon9801
    @watermelon9801 9 месяцев назад

    i heckin love your videos

  • @jared30
    @jared30 4 месяца назад +2

    I feel like the people that hate on this show have never hit rock bottom themselves. I relate so much to thorfinns rage and single mindedness. I also relate to his journey of self reflection. Its only because thorfinn has seen the worst things life has to offer that he comes to understand what is beautiful about it. I have no enemies is the most powerful line I've ever heard in anime. The petty things people argue and fight over have no real meaning than creating suffering for others. Thorfinn has become an enlightened being.

    • @hornymonk23
      @hornymonk23 3 месяца назад

      Only someone who’s lived such a privileged life that he's never had to stand up for himself in the face of a threat would take Vinland Saga seriously.
      I can tell by the snobbery and the lack of rational arguments I see in every comment section that the fanbase consists of both kids who think that because they went to college they know everything about what life is all about, and slightly more self-aware individuals like yourself who’re rationalizing how being a coward is actually beneficial for the world.
      Every time you quote Throfinn’s “I have no enemies” you’re exposing yourselves in the most cringeworthy way. And I don’t use that word lightly.

    • @hornymonk23
      @hornymonk23 3 месяца назад

      Look it’s not that deep or new. Three decades ago Rurouni Kenshin had no enemies either but he understood that whenever he couldn’t protect the innocent without using lethal violence, his duty was to revert back to being a manslayer. He wasn’t preachy and didn’t walk around like an enlightened being because he was fully aware of the naivete of his decision but he made it regardless because it was the right thing to do.
      There are four different choices to this moral dilemma:
      1. You become a noble warrior who fights when it’s necessary to preserve the peaceful lives of the innocent. (Like Kenshin)
      2. You become a martyr who understands his pacifist ideals will bring about his demise, but uses his suffering and death to inspire change. Though for it to work it has to make sense in its context. (Like Gandhi or Jesus)
      3. You run. It may be cowardly or smart depending on the situation, but you get to live another day. (Like most people would do)
      4. You become so infatuated with your moral superiority that you passively let yourself be killed just to pat yourself on the back in the afterworld, even though your decision will bring more violence and death to the innocent than you could avoid by being passive. (Like Thors)
      


      It certainly isn’t that complicated that you need to drag the show forever with nonsensical writing pretending that you’re doing such a deep exploration of this ancient moral dilemma.
      I'm sorry to tell you but this show didn't enlighten you, you're just in the phase where "I have no enemies" sounds so profound, but when your life or your loved one's are threatened and your survival instincts kick in, you'll wonder what made you think it was such a deep statement.

    • @jared30
      @jared30 3 месяца назад

      @@hornymonk23 I could say a lot to your comment, I could do like you did and just assume what another person's life is like based on a singular thing they said on a video I half ass watched just to argue with people. But I won't do that because I would like an ignorant fool. All I'll say is you have literally no idea who I am or what I've been through in life. So, since you want to call me privileged, all I'll say is this. I'm praying for your judgemental ass and if it ever came down to it, I know how to protect myself. It's taken me my whole life to realize everybody has their own demons. So even if I disagree with you on every fundamental level and it comes down to defending myself, I understand you are a product of your environment. You aren't my enemy for that you are just a misguided soul. I don't have hatred for anybody anymore because hate is a useless emotion that brings only pain for the person feeling it. I would rather seek understanding and the wisdom to correct the things I see that are making myself and my loved ones have more suffering than we or they should. You keep right on believing the world's out to get you see how far you get in life

    • @jared30
      @jared30 3 месяца назад

      @@hornymonk23 to your second comment I've never seen ruronai kenshin. Also I didn't say the show made me enlightened I said thorfinn has become enlightened. When I say I have no enemies is the most profound thing ive heard in anime its because I haven't watched every anime ever released and my statement is factual for me. It's crazy how you seem to know everything about me from one comment and yet everything you assumed about me is coming from a place of indifference, arrogance and ignorance. I'm glad you like some other show I've never seen now if you want to keep making judgements about me I'm done with this conversation. If you want to discuss philosophy I'm here for it

    • @hornymonk23
      @hornymonk23 3 месяца назад

      You're right, I don't know the first thing about you. What I've said applies more to the general VS fanbase based on the arguments I've seen online than you particularly.
      But still, I don't need to know you to know that anyone who thinks there's so much depth in VS philosophy hasn't got a lot of life experience, and probably doesn't have enough references of what good writing is, so when so many of you start saying it's a masterpiece and it's so profound, specially with how snobby the fanbase is (though not your case) you're gonna be called out.
      If you've never seen Kenshin I recommend it, it's a classic worth watching at least up until Shishio's arc (the third season is kind of weird). There's a remake currently airing. I wouldn't say it's a masterpiece but it gives a much better take on this pacifist theme than VS.
      The only interpretation of the phrase "I have no enemies" that has any real meaning is don't be a hater and don't use violence for no good reason. It's an important life lesson that a lot of people should to learn, but that's not what the show conveys (I don't think the author even knows what he's actually trying to say).
      But hey, maybe I missed something because the plot is so forgettable and I stopped watching when it became too ridiculous to bear.
      So if you want to explain to me what do you find so life changing of the "I have no enemies" philosophy, I'll hear you.
      @@jared30

  • @heavenlyNoomba
    @heavenlyNoomba 9 месяцев назад

    Omg you made me see this show in a other light ❤❤❤

  • @psychologyforgeeks
    @psychologyforgeeks 8 месяцев назад +1

    This video reminded me of all the reasons of why I loved this anime so much and now I want to collect the manga! ❤

  • @ghostgore
    @ghostgore 4 месяца назад

    thank u for thiS VIDEO ITS HELPING ME WITH MY ESSAY ON VVINLAND SAGA SO THANK U

  • @lakhan8688
    @lakhan8688 21 день назад

    Your words r really meaningful

  • @skillachidias1262
    @skillachidias1262 9 месяцев назад

    Been waiting on this

  • @yashiroxo
    @yashiroxo 9 месяцев назад

    finally. i was waiting for this.

  • @Sokive
    @Sokive Месяц назад

    Its crazy how this is just the first half of the manga that's still releasing

  • @rageingmang
    @rageingmang 9 месяцев назад +1

    Why thornfinn is the best MC, amazing video sage!

  • @sirjackio_zw
    @sirjackio_zw 9 месяцев назад

    I just finished watching Vinland Saga last week and when I came across this video I would like to say it's perfect timing. Thors philosophy of what makes a true man gave me the confidence to be myself and not to choose violence in any situation. Vinland Saga is storytelling at it's best

  • @Burntout-man
    @Burntout-man 5 месяцев назад +3

    Unlike Thorfinn, my revenge was successful. After all these years, I finally got my parents, specifically my father to say sorry to me. Even through all the hell I experienced, I still feel empty. There is still more work to be done. The damage I have caused is far too great to bear. My path to heaven is wrought with many obstacles and tasks. However, this goal is necessary to accomplish.

    • @SamuelSanchezOrozco
      @SamuelSanchezOrozco 5 месяцев назад +2

      John 14:6 "Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

  • @devynraydi1563
    @devynraydi1563 9 месяцев назад +3

    Just finished watching VS yesterday and I went from thoroughly unimpressed un the first arc to glued to the screen by the end of the second. Never in a million years did I think bloody funding vikings could make a compelling argument for pacifism. We all need to have no enemies

  • @majorsilly8966
    @majorsilly8966 8 месяцев назад

    Good video thank you and thank god I threw my pride and some extreme belief away ❤️💯

  • @andrex1456
    @andrex1456 3 дня назад

    27:08 i was not expecting to hear one of my favorite songs here but now I’m a sobbing mess
    This show absolutely blew me away, and this Octopath song is strangely fitting to the emotions it gave me

  • @justaegiscertifiedbodyguar8083
    @justaegiscertifiedbodyguar8083 9 месяцев назад +1

    When I look back at Thorfinn, I recall much of my own life. The differences and the similarities. The choices we made. Much of me has the same ambitions as Thorfinn but that central aspect of hate is still there for me. My hate is limited to the reach of people who are very much alive and who I'd have to see everyday. I don't have the courage to forgive nor the strength to simply forget. What people see in my eyes and my words were someone who desired so much. That intensity is sometimes off-putting or endearing. I am still dealt that rage albeit reconstructed for something productive, but of course old habits die hard. As this rage continues, I can sense my time getting shorter and shorter as I strive to prevent such a thing from being given a reason to manifest as much as mine.

  • @Greggyworld15
    @Greggyworld15 9 месяцев назад

    I love character development man that shits so awesome

  • @darktobi2869
    @darktobi2869 9 месяцев назад

    Yay thanks for making Vinland saga video please do Canute next

  • @sagemaster1357
    @sagemaster1357 8 месяцев назад

    Literally on the last episode of vinland saga and now Thorfinn has become my favourite mc.

  • @codyallen43
    @codyallen43 3 месяца назад +1

    Thorfinn might actually be my favorite protag of all time. Some of the best character development i've ever seen, in any medium. I can't stand the morons who say season 2 is boring because it doesn't have enough fights. THAT'S LITERALLY THE POINT

  • @Grayson-Winchester
    @Grayson-Winchester 9 месяцев назад +4

    I think it's important for protagonist to develop the perfect balance of developmental groth. Being relatable and not boring OP while also not being a little bitch. People that do that really well are Edward Elric, Eren Yeager, Ken Kaneki, Thorfinn Karsefni, Jonny Joestar and Guts.

    • @Ash_Wen-li
      @Ash_Wen-li 9 месяцев назад +1

      There's nothing wrong with a character being a little bitch but going too far in that direction does alienate viewers. Simon and Amuro had an excellent balance but Shinji was a bit too much for many.

    • @wymg4480
      @wymg4480 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@Ash_Wen-li i mean to be fair to shinji, kid was a 14 yr old with abandonment issues cuz his dad was a complete piece of shit. and the adults around him dont exactly put him in the best positions. Simon had Kamina as a supportive figure. Even after Kamina died, he had Nia and the rest of the squad. Shinji had....Asuka, Rei and Makoto....not the most supportive cast of people if I do say so myself.

  • @samxaveir5463
    @samxaveir5463 9 месяцев назад

    This video resonates with the kratos from god war video so much...like how they were both ruthless killer and now they dont want to fight, how they know the weight of a soul, one is trying to follow his father's footstep and the other is a father setting the road for his son.

  • @pory123
    @pory123 3 месяца назад

    actually a 10/10 video

  • @Gadget-Walkmen
    @Gadget-Walkmen 8 месяцев назад +1

    Thorfinn in part 1 is a PERFECT example of an "anti-villain" character, while he's not pure evil person and not going out to commit evil actions like slaughtering innocents JUST for the sake of out of pure sadism or involve himself with rape for his own sick enjoyment, he's more than willing to COMMIT evil actions like killing ANYONE if it will further his own selfish personal goal of revenge. He's the furthest thing from a "good person" in part 1 and was completely desensitized to the evil around him and willing to allow it to happen as long as it doesn't get in the way with his own ambitions. That's what a brutal world like his causes to young boys who aren't guided well.

  • @Historyfrek4ever
    @Historyfrek4ever 9 месяцев назад

    What saddens me is that all who have gained "the eyes of true warrior" had to first live a life spilling of blood or great loss, they were people in needed of redemption. But that is why the story exists, so we can be true warriors with out such tragedies. So we never forget that: we have no enemies. Heck this video made me tear up.

  • @reaper18ish
    @reaper18ish 9 месяцев назад

    Vinland is my favorite anime because of the entire story even the slow parts

  • @katana-killer1588
    @katana-killer1588 6 месяцев назад

    deam a masterpiece this vid

  • @antotara1927
    @antotara1927 8 месяцев назад +1

    It's curious and impressive how Thorfinn understands what he needs to do to walk the path of a true warrior after witnessing three people who were important to him die, in their own way: his father Thors, his mentor and former sworn enemy Askeladd and one of his first friends (and I'd say best friends) Arnheid.

  • @user-xg3bk8nb5v
    @user-xg3bk8nb5v 2 месяца назад

    Man said I have change and everyone immediately agreed

  • @darktobi2869
    @darktobi2869 9 месяцев назад

    Amazing video I loved it so much please do more vinland Canute video next plz

  • @sjmhadsock4586
    @sjmhadsock4586 9 месяцев назад +3

    This is a great anime

  • @Jordan78142
    @Jordan78142 9 месяцев назад

    A True Warrior fights out of love of who and what they’re protecting rather than out of hate of who or what they’re fighting.

  • @philosopherkingzant2037
    @philosopherkingzant2037 9 месяцев назад

    That manga art is woah