There is no left back thats why all the prem teams are too bothered with importing people. Suppose its another one of those dead end jobs the goverment tell you the English just wont do.... haha
Exactly. Southgate picks the 11 most popular, most highly-rated players and tries to make a team out of them. "XXX has to play" and so he does. The last manger who picked the best team regardless was Alf Ramsay, who didn't give a flying feck what the press wrote about him. Anybody remember how that went?
The thing is only player that he actually needs to take out is Trent for Gordon, then put the players in the correct roles, job done. But he is completely incapable of seeing what is right Infront of his face.
@@PotterP-rl4rq I'm not Indian. I never even wrote anything to suggest I am Indian. Don't get me wrong, I work with a lot of Indians in IT and I like them, but I'm not Indian. I'm British, but live in the Netherlands.
the last 2 years of friendlies are for experementing, you dont come into a tournamnet not knowing your starting line up and still trying players out of position, southgate is embarrising
Form changes, injuries happen, stuff goes on behind the scenes… given those points. why is it so unbelievable to you to be deciding your starting 11 a week before the tournament? Seems perfectly normal to me.
I just saw a headline Sky, "Is this the end of the Alexander-Arnold midfield experiment?". EXPERIMENT? In a major tournament. This just sums Southgate up, he has no idea what he's doing, no idea what his best team his, no idea what his players' best positions are. He's been in the job for over 7 years and still doesn't know this, how do people defend him?
I've always been frustrated that we didn't know our starting 11. The game against France in the World Cup felt like the first time there was a solid starting 11. BUT we get annoyed when he picks the same players, and we get annoyed when he picks new players who haven't played together. To be fair to him, he has like 6 weeks a year with players and we want him to pick on form, in which case, he'd have a new squad every single international break. I do think it's time to change but can't understate how great the foundation Southgate's built in the national set up. But maybe now we need a ruthless winning manager (not sure we have that in England though)
lol how he ‘built’ foundation when he only has 6 weeks a year with players? the team is a divine gift and he has nothing to do with that, in fact if he did nothing the team will be better off
@@yth987 it’s the whole set up, not just the 6 weeks a year with players. People want to play for England where they didn’t before. People want to watch England more than before. Players feel more unified and supported more than before. Basically? There’s a much healthier national team set up. Hopefully the new manager can build on it and bring some winning mentality
We had a golden ticket straight to the final of 2018 World Cup and blew it and then got a second chance at the Euros and blew it. Only person to blame was Southgate. Should have been gone after that. We’ll never have that chance again
Why was he ever appointed in the first place - complete joke! He had never done anything worthy of praise as a manager, ever! I’ll never understand it....
Said that Southgate should have gone after the Euro final for he demonstrated that he’d learnt nothing from the 2018 semi against Croatia. Plus his choice of penalty takers was blatantly based on optics and not football. He’s reflects Morden Britain where only the bland rise to the top of society like Sunak and Starmer. It’s down to him now to grow a pair and make bold changes
@@NouserID2 you clearly don't watch Palmer. He is more creative than both Saka and Foden. I would drop Foden because he looks lost on the ball and can hardly beat a man, at least Saka post a threat every 12min or so
@@virtualcity721 Saka is the only person to actually run at players and take them on what are you talking about ? Foden has been awful agreed but I’d still have him over Palmer actually I would start Eze over Palmer you obviously support Chelsea that’s why your backing your bum boy it’s ok
I thought the same, but then thought, with this squad there doesn't need to be 'experiments', the notion shouldn't exist' we are blessed with interchangeable players and should be able to put a performance in no matter what the starting eleven. It's solely down to him and his limitations
@@jrhartley relax it's the group stages. He probably doesn't want to show all his cards yet so the opposition can be ill prepared when he finally drop Foden and bring in Gordon whose pace would be a problem to handle. Right now the weakest links in the team are Foden and Trippier. If they get dropped the team will be more balanced
Southgate is the worst manager I've ever seen at this level and I've been saying it for 8 years! He managed to get a then decent Middlesborough team relegated before smarming his way into the FA set up.... Massively out of his depth he has no clue what he is doing.... I'm glad a few of the pundits are finally catching up with what many fans have been saying for years.
How can he be the worst manager when we was in a final and semi and you have not seen any England manager bring us that close not a single one apart from 1966 and he is now dead sadly...Southgates England record has been really good compared to the previous managers so how can be the worst and we played poorly yes but too call him the worst England manager when stats and win ratio(compared to previous managers) say different 😂
@@michealjames5459look how the standards of most teams have dropped of over the past yrs.spain .Belgium germany all dropped levels we somehow managed to squeeze past Denmark in the last euros and then sat back against a aging Italian team on our home final
@@rickwakefield1438 you are completely correct in this comment 100 percent this is not directed at you but I am tired of people saying sack Southgate because my reply is then get WHO (I heard someone say get KLOPP, realistically he is not coming) Southgate needs to improve but compared to what we have had previously he has done very well and based on his track record we as fans are ACTUALLY sack him as we want better to do better someone would literally have to win a trophy and that has only been done once in 1966..don't get me wrong I would get rid of Southgate but ONLy if their is a realistic option of someone that is realisticly BETTER..sack and GET WHO
Just had 2 friendlies against Bosnia and Iceland, one of which we LOST, THAT was your time to experiment 😕, But the media and Talksport pundits were saying “it’s only a friendly don’t wanna get injured wait till the euros starts…”
@@MrBrasserie They scored and we didn’t. Mainoo and rice is a good pair, his Trent positioning & attacking choices are what is the issues. Any team can score but what did we do after that? Nothing. And what have we done after taken the lead in these two games? NOTHING. so I don’t see your point?
The "experiment" started the day he turned up with no left footed defenders ... Its a compromise from that point forward. Shuffling his pack with countless players out of their best position. And he ended up with 11 right foot players finishing the game against Denmark. Astonishing
The only surprise, is that people are surprised. England have got a Championship manager, trying to win an International competition. It will end in tears once again, until a proper proven manager is made the manager of England.
We have had many of the best managers in the world, but have never had such a squad of talented players as those of the last 3 tournaments, so it is not always down to the wrong manager, but in this case, perhaps it is. One thing is certain, playing players out of position has never worked at international level, and that is down to the manager, not the players.
@@paulwhite8358they couldn't create chance, TAA make the most create chance of all player yet got subbed & after that England totally play like shite 😂
@@astroidroach1873 They were actually gaining momentum. Remember when he ran through the midfield and passed behind Foden? That was the problem. All the boys off form.
When you are playing with 2 Central Mids the partner ship is everything. They need to instinctly know what to cover, what runs to make, where to be available and what moves to make to compliment each other. When you’ve got someone in their who not only doesn’t know the role but also hasn’t got that partnership your carrying a player in the most important part of the pitch. Trent cannot start in a midfield 2. He doesn’t do it at club level and doesn’t know the position. A RB stepping into space with 3 midfielders around him is just not the same thing. England are almost playing with 1 man less. Obviously Phillips shouldn’t be there but at least he knows the position and how to build that partnership. The failure of Southgate is the sticky with Phillips for so long despite the clear signs he needed someone else, leaving it last minute then throwing Trent in just because he can cross a ball.
Graeme bang on as usual, Bellingham is our best number 10 but hes also our best number 8 so play him there and let Foden/Palmer play the 10, their best positions. Gareth and his obsession with two holding midfielders still holding England back
Southgate is the man setting the tone in the team and you can see the results. Nice guy but too clueless to see his limitations and is holding back a very talented group of players.
@@stretfordenders4013 Ten hag is much better given the injuries and players he had, England under Southgate plays like it is playing in Euro for the first time.
What GS does alone under his bed sheets when all is quiet around him has nothing to do with the normal unfolding debacle that is England at major tournaments.
Leaving Grealish behind was such an act of stupidity that I lost interest before the tournament started. To make matters worse, he gave Grealish up for Gordon, who he has left on the bench. Unbelievable.
I called it months ago....there's only a slim chance England will go far in this tournament because EVERY time they come up against a decent side, they crumble. It's weird how these players cannot replicate their club form for England on a consistent basis! I think we're all wearing rose tinted glasses!
Gazza made a difference for england because he would run forward beat 1-2 men draw other players towards him and pass to the player with space who would then draw another man to him creating more space. This england team want to play walking football thinking they will slowly pass it round a team who are back in formation
Saka taken off was insanity. He was the only person on the pitch that looked dangerous for England. Worst match I've ever seen for England. Shocking. Playing around with the ball from the back, giving the ball away. Not harassing anyone at the front. Truly awful.
He did the same against France in the world cup. I think he will take Sake off no matter what is happening on the pitch. He has no clue about game management.
Is Luke shaw injured? Regardless, even if there aren’t any big name left backs available, he could have taken some lesser known left backs to the euros and given them a chance to shine. And I mean actual left backs.
The worst of it came towards the end where the players didn’t really seem to know whether they were pressing or trying to play for the drawer. There was also arguing on the pitch, which tells you everything you need to know. I also noticed a picture with Bellingham and Southgate leaving the pitch and the look on Bellingham’s face spoke 1000 words!
I find it hilarious how the fans were saying how brave GS was putting Trent in midfield and so many clamouring for this, now , no one is. England fans are also the problem
Saying its brave to put Trent as a midfielder isn't the same as saying its a good idea. The fact is Trent playing there has not worked, he's not a midfielder, not technically good enough when on the ball under pressure. He's good when he's got time to pick out a pass when he has time to do so but in that central midfield position he has been found wanting and is a liability. That's not his fault, the blame lies solely at the person playing him in that position
My biggest issue isn't the fact that he tried Trent in that position, it could have been a good move with his passing capabilities. But the fact that he played him there again when it was clear and obvious that he isn't capable after the first game, that is unforgivable. The confidence of these lads now will be at an all-time low going into the knock phase if they don't rip Slovenia to pieces, a standard win won't suffice.
Trent VASTLY outperformed Gallagher, who replaced him. It has nothing to do with Trent or midfielders v right backs. Southgate set the team up with Foden, Bellingham, and Kane all occupying the same exact space in midfield and NO LEFT SIDE PRESENCE. Trent is a passer of the ball. There are no runners to pass to. The boys are picking the ball up in midfield and staring out 5 of their mates all 3 yards from them. You don't have any width in the team and it's so easy to just smother England in possession because they have no space to move the ball into.
The "experiment" clearly didn't work, but Southgate chose to restart the same 11, to continue the experiment and presumably to give the boys a chance to show they can play after all. The first sign of madness, is repeating the same thing and expecting a different result. How long as Phillips been gone? Ahhh, Gareth, poor you are you missing him? Kane looked like he was out for a Sunday stroll. He made ONE, JUST ONE, forward effective pass to Saka and then just slowly jogged towards the goal, ensuring that there was no one there to receive the ball back. He's clearly pissed about the setup, or perhaps he's pining for Phillips as well.
When he called up Mainoo I was impressed and thought ah yes hes seen the missing piece and grown the balls to pick him regardless of age and experience.. Then he goes and plays someone out of position there instead.
not physical enough and he and Gallagher left Rice isolated time after time vs Serbia. Serbia should have scored, half the England players are not international quality players.
@@Ruscococo1 Who would you rather see experimented with? Teen sensation of Manchester United natural in the position on the back of a match winning FA Cup Final goal , or the Accomplished right back who's not going to play CM for club?
@@asifitevermattered Gibbs-White who won all the youth level comps and is good for Forest who can create and defend, Loftus-Cheek whose smashed up serie A for AC milan...
I would bring foden right of midfield Bowen out wide right, roaming roll for Bellingham then second half look at may be Gordon being introduced with saka if needed
@ashleymartin6521 So you acknowledge that Saka will not win or lose a team trophies. He's given what he can give, what he's always given. That's not trophies. The others are unknown factors at this level.
Southgate's managerial pedigree is plain to see, and has been for years. So let's take a look at his managerial pedigree ..... 2005-2006 Middlesbrough finish 14th 2006 - Becomes Middlesbrough Manager (despite not having his coaching qualification) 2006-2007 - Middlesbrough finish 12th 2007-2008 - Middlesbrough finish 13th 2008-2009 - Middlesbrough Relegated in 19th. 2009 - Southgate Sacked. 4 Years out of Football 2013 - 2016 - Coach of England U-21 2015 - Finished bottom of group and knocked out of U21 Euros. So.... 3 years in Prem Management where he was sacked for relegating Middlesbrough. 4 years out. Then 3 years not doing much with the U21 side. Are we honestly surprised that he looks clueless????? He's not qualified. This isn't Ancelotti we're talking about here. This isn't Pep. He never earned any stripes as a top class manager. He's totally unproven and I think it shows every time England play. I would literally prefer Sam Allardyce, because Sam can at least get average players to put a shift in.
I said that to my mates with regards Kalvin Phillips with tongue firmly in cheek,but cannot believe Southgate came out with that statement,he looks lost and bereft of Ideas,and that will translate itself on the pitch
How come it is always the very people who don't know what they are doing who control things? Every single pundit last night had a better idea than Gareth. Truly baffling.
I don't want to bash a manager who has taken us to a semi-final and a final in the last few tournaments. I am however frustrated at Southgate for thinking that a midfield screen of Declan Rice (box to box, but plays as an 8 for Arteta) and Trent Alexander Arnold (a fullback who inverts in certain circumstances for Liverpool) ... so Rice and TAA are the midfield that we want to go up against Portugal, Spain, France or Germany later in the tournament? So we honestly think Vitinha, Bruno Fernandes and Palhinha won't run rings around us? Or Kroos and Andrich won't make mincemeat? Or Rabiot and Kante? For goodness sakes.... this is a side that might limp through the group stages, might get lucky in the last 16. But unless we actually start picking MIDFIELDERS, we will get beaten by players who will be licking their lips against this stuff.
He's had months to prepare his plans A, B, C, etc. Kalvin Philips was out of the picture months ago so if his system, whatever that is, requires that type of player then he should have sorted one out or changed the system. Experimenting now is ridiculous, but so is selecting a squad with only one left back who hasn't played this year and still isn't fit. Man Utd fans should be pleased with this development as he's working himself out of their manager's position.
Scrubgate doesn’t know what day of the week it is! You play Trent who’s strength is his ball deliveries but you only have one player in the front 3 who runs in behind… you then take Trent off and bring on players who run in behind. WHAT ARE YOU DOING 😂 You then imply that if we had Kalvin Phillips, who’s contribution to this entire season was being sent off for West Ham, is the reason it’s not working. BAFFLING
Almost like he was listening to all this "experts" on the Tv that was so excited with trent being such a world class maradona or messi kind of player that going to win games
So many fans have seen all this before, it's disappointing but no shock. What happens next feels easy to predict: 1 - A better performance in the last group game and/or last 16 2 - Media forget the bad vibes and get back on the wagon. "England have arrived" etc... 3 - The same thing happens again and England go out with a weak performance, characterised by an inability to adapt during a game 4 - Southgate leaves and gets knighted 5 - Everyone gets excited about the next England manager prospects 6 - Everyone is disappointed with the new England manager appointment Cynic? Yep.
Southgate is a rubbish manager and I have no idea why he’s still in charge. Such quality players & he has no idea how to use the lads to their strength.
Love how calm and rational simon is. Anyone sensible has seen this for the past 4 years at least. We have been incredibly fortunate, which is strange and funny as before gareth we had no luck at all. Easy draws, easy games yet people are only now seeing the bad performances as what they are? As soon as i saw the serbia slovenia game was a draw i saw this coming. Lazy performance just doing the bare minimum to go through. Maybe its the plan but if it is its a bloody weird one
@@francishughes2016Howe, Potter, the kit man, the boot cleaner, doesn’t really matter as literally anyone would do better than Southgate at this stage. The players could manage themselves better without Southgate.
Where are his runners ? Why can't the rest of the team keep the ball ? Why is he switching the ball to a left back with no pace and no left foot? Where are Kanes runs ? Fodens ? Created 3 chances 5 line breaking passes. Without him we look just as bad if not worse as all Gallagher can do is run.
Arguably he isnt learning that position as he plays it all the time at club level. The team need to keep the ball and have runners. Sure put Warton Mainoo. Then you will see how they cope with 'retreat ball' what will they do when the other team has more possession. 25 uninterrupted passes. The imbalance of this side isn't down to just a ' 6' many many more issues
Worst manager England have had in living memory should have sacked him after he blew the World Cup. And the Kalvin Philips missing being the problem is just laughable he hasn’t got a clue. Played and managed at a mediocre level we will never win anything with a FA yes man in charge of the team
Look Denmark are 3rd or 4th Division types and well the pitch wasn't the best ,is a factor HOWEVER the performance was pathetic. Look you have to dominate the centre (midfield) or if you haven't got the skill let them have it and when you get the ball go Long. There was away to beat Denmark easily and that was conventional wingers take um on by line and crosses over and over and over . But that is simply imagination in England's eyes
Imagine if Man City or Arsenal made injury excuses. Southgate should go back to being a lower league manager. He's been scamming the FA out of £ millions for 7 years.
Just a few weeks ago, there was a clamour by the media and pundits to start trent in midfield, whilst ignoring the young midfield options they had all in the name of inexperience. Look at Spain, Turkey and the other nations. If you're good enough, you're old enough.
Southgate's tone when he speaks sounds depressed. The stress and anxiety of his role and the task at hand, is blocking his the level of energy he should be giving to the role. He doesn't sound scared, but he sounds like he is trying to consciously hold his composure - it all seems unnatural. He is no longer the right guy to get the most out of these players. England need belief, which comes from natural positivity.
England need to pick their best team rather just rely on individuals to bail them out. I’d go with Pickford Walker Stones Guehi trippier Rice Bellingham Mainoo Saka Kane Gordon Mainoo to give more composure in midfield and help rice defensively, Gordon to stretch the game on the left
8 years as manager 8 years to get it right 8 years to get the right blend of players the right playing style and a winning team. He sounds more like the leader of the Cons Party, a Politician, full of bull excuses and no answers, excuse after excuse and with it failure after failure. With the squad England have winning should not be an experiment but a given, sady another failed tournament down to incompetence lack of skill and just plain USELESS, all the fault of one person, the MANAGER
keep a settled team all the way through qualkifiers & competition. Play a "team" rather than individual stars, & play players in for and in their correct position. Whjy are England the only team in competition toply at walking pace and always retreat & hand initiative to opposition over last 30 years???
They said it just friendlies, then it just the first game, now the 2nd game😂 They are not Real Madrid nor France for turning up like a switch. Read the room
I dont think someone like southgate has achieved anything as a manager to get the respect of the players and thats why hes so placid even when were getting dominated. He has no balls to dig out the team so we just slack off.
Trent. Chances created 3. Line breaking passes in the opponents half 5. Trent created more in 50 mins than any other England player. Also didn't endanger the team with the crazy loss of possession like Kane, Rice etc etc. When Trent left the pitch there was 4t minutes of the second half left to play. England did nothing. Where are his runners ? Why can't the team keep the ball ? Love a scapegoat don't they
"Kane in an unassailable position" and you think that Southgate is changing because he took him off? A blind man could have worked out that Kane needed replacing. ONE TOUCH IN THE BOX!
I think the local teen team could best this England squad....endless talent endlessly lost on the pitch. It's so boring to watch... no aggression, no desire, does anyone ACTUALLY care? It really doesn't look like it. People go on and on and on about the immense talent of these players and they literally do NOTHING. What do they prepare in camp before a tournament because they seem to have ZERO clue what is going on when a tournamwnt starts. Its like the players are all meeting for the first time in the group games. So bizarre.
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Not having Kalvin Phillip's available was Southgates excuse afterwards...OMG 😢😢
😂😂
It's like saying you can't make a bacon sandwich because you don't have a spoon.
Goes to show he can’t think outside of two holding midfielder’s
@@asifitevermatteredEven though you have tons of bread and bacon !😅
I'm sure Spanish and German fans are all at home thinking "If only we had Kalvin Phillips".
The team Southgate picked had 3 right backs, no left back, no left winger and no tactics. Not really any surprise how bad we were.
There is no left back thats why all the prem teams are too bothered with importing people. Suppose its another one of those dead end jobs the goverment tell you the English just wont do.... haha
Exactly. Southgate picks the 11 most popular, most highly-rated players and tries to make a team out of them. "XXX has to play" and so he does. The last manger who picked the best team regardless was Alf Ramsay, who didn't give a flying feck what the press wrote about him. Anybody remember how that went?
The thing is only player that he actually needs to take out is Trent for Gordon, then put the players in the correct roles, job done. But he is completely incapable of seeing what is right Infront of his face.
3x right backs...jesus fkn wept...😩😩😩
Did you copy my post at the beginning of the week. 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Why doesn’t anybody address the elephant in the room - Southgate ?????
The elephant in the room is not Southgate, it is the perpetual overhyping of the England team. It's the pressure killing, not the coaching.
@@haatpraat2993what does an Indian know about football?
@@PotterP-rl4rq I'm not Indian. I never even wrote anything to suggest I am Indian. Don't get me wrong, I work with a lot of Indians in IT and I like them, but I'm not Indian. I'm British, but live in the Netherlands.
@@PotterP-rl4rq More than the cowboy that's in charge.
@@haatpraat2993 haatpraat come on bro that’s an Indian name
the last 2 years of friendlies are for experementing, you dont come into a tournamnet not knowing your starting line up and still trying players out of position, southgate is embarrising
Form changes, injuries happen, stuff goes on behind the scenes… given those points. why is it so unbelievable to you to be deciding your starting 11 a week before the tournament?
Seems perfectly normal to me.
Yes, because you likely have an IQ of 80. @@MattWiles
@@MattWiles you don’t seem perfectly normal to me
@@fullclipzzz1278 fantastic reply Mr Expert.
@@MattWiles so why did Romania smash Ukraine?
*England couldn't string 3 passes together to save their lives. Its shocking*
Ben white knew all along 😂😂😂
Man is having a relaxing holiday
I just saw a headline Sky, "Is this the end of the Alexander-Arnold midfield experiment?". EXPERIMENT? In a major tournament. This just sums Southgate up, he has no idea what he's doing, no idea what his best team his, no idea what his players' best positions are. He's been in the job for over 7 years and still doesn't know this, how do people defend him?
I've always been frustrated that we didn't know our starting 11. The game against France in the World Cup felt like the first time there was a solid starting 11. BUT we get annoyed when he picks the same players, and we get annoyed when he picks new players who haven't played together. To be fair to him, he has like 6 weeks a year with players and we want him to pick on form, in which case, he'd have a new squad every single international break.
I do think it's time to change but can't understate how great the foundation Southgate's built in the national set up. But maybe now we need a ruthless winning manager (not sure we have that in England though)
lol how he ‘built’ foundation when he only has 6 weeks a year with players? the team is a divine gift and he has nothing to do with that, in fact if he did nothing the team will be better off
@@yth987 it’s the whole set up, not just the 6 weeks a year with players. People want to play for England where they didn’t before. People want to watch England more than before. Players feel more unified and supported more than before. Basically? There’s a much healthier national team set up. Hopefully the new manager can build on it and bring some winning mentality
Exactly!
Because he creates a "good atmosphere" amoung the group 😂
We had a golden ticket straight to the final of 2018 World Cup and blew it and then got a second chance at the Euros and blew it. Only person to blame was Southgate. Should have been gone after that. We’ll never have that chance again
Why was he ever appointed in the first place - complete joke! He had never done anything worthy of praise as a manager, ever! I’ll never understand it....
Only reason he got the job and has kept the job is he is a yes man
exactly... it baffles me that people think THIS is the best England team, when they haven't even gotten out of the group stage or even performed well
Doesn't matter who the manager is. Go back 20 years and it was the same old England....
Said that Southgate should have gone after the Euro final for he demonstrated that he’d learnt nothing from the 2018 semi against Croatia. Plus his choice of penalty takers was blatantly based on optics and not football. He’s reflects Morden Britain where only the bland rise to the top of society like Sunak and Starmer. It’s down to him now to grow a pair and make bold changes
GET PALMER ON THE PITCH. SOUTHGATE, YOU ARE A DEER IN HEADLIGHTS.
What’s he gonna do? Only scores penalties that’s what Southgate’s saving him for
@@NouserID2 you clearly don't watch Palmer. He is more creative than both Saka and Foden. I would drop Foden because he looks lost on the ball and can hardly beat a man, at least Saka post a threat every 12min or so
@@virtualcity721 Saka is the only person to actually run at players and take them on what are you talking about ? Foden has been awful agreed but I’d still have him over Palmer actually I would start Eze over Palmer you obviously support Chelsea that’s why your backing your bum boy it’s ok
@@virtualcity721 either way England are getting knocked out either in the last 16 or the quarters so it doesn’t really matter
@@NouserID2 I like Eze but Palmer had a better season. I would play either of them but Fod3n needs to go
Southgate is a complete drip
@keefrazak people like you are actually unwell
Such an inspirational manager !!!! I think you are being unkind to drips everywhere 😏
He’s a big drip and a big girl’s blouse.
Exactly. Why is Southgate experimenting now? Isn't that what friendlies are for?
he experimented with Grealish when he assisted 2 against Bosnia as a Sub. Then dropped him.
I thought the same, but then thought, with this squad there doesn't need to be 'experiments', the notion shouldn't exist' we are blessed with interchangeable players and should be able to put a performance in no matter what the starting eleven. It's solely down to him and his limitations
@@jrhartley relax it's the group stages. He probably doesn't want to show all his cards yet so the opposition can be ill prepared when he finally drop Foden and bring in Gordon whose pace would be a problem to handle. Right now the weakest links in the team are Foden and Trippier. If they get dropped the team will be more balanced
@@virtualcity721 I'm very relaxed. I'm not sure playing a super secret team and tactics is realistic though
@@jrhartley it might work as long as the players who are being held back do their job when called upon and not be too overwhelmed by the occasion
Does Southgate think Phillips is prime Roy Keane 😂😂
No he thinks hes Sergio Bequest
Prime makelele
Prime Stig Tofting 😂
Roy Keane would have tackled the hell out of Kalvin Phillips.
Bizarre comment. You would think Phillips was our best player for 2 or 3 tournaments or something. Modric-esque or the like.
Southgate is the worst manager I've ever seen at this level and I've been saying it for 8 years! He managed to get a then decent Middlesborough team relegated before smarming his way into the FA set up.... Massively out of his depth he has no clue what he is doing.... I'm glad a few of the pundits are finally catching up with what many fans have been saying for years.
How can he be the worst manager when we was in a final and semi and you have not seen any England manager bring us that close not a single one apart from 1966 and he is now dead sadly...Southgates England record has been really good compared to the previous managers so how can be the worst and we played poorly yes but too call him the worst England manager when stats and win ratio(compared to previous managers) say different 😂
@@michealjames5459look how the standards of most teams have dropped of over the past yrs.spain .Belgium germany all dropped levels we somehow managed to squeeze past Denmark in the last euros and then sat back against a aging Italian team on our home final
@@rickwakefield1438 you are completely correct in this comment 100 percent this is not directed at you but I am tired of people saying sack Southgate because my reply is then get WHO (I heard someone say get KLOPP, realistically he is not coming) Southgate needs to improve but compared to what we have had previously he has done very well and based on his track record we as fans are ACTUALLY sack him as we want better to do better someone would literally have to win a trophy and that has only been done once in 1966..don't get me wrong I would get rid of Southgate but ONLy if their is a realistic option of someone that is realisticly BETTER..sack and GET WHO
Jeez, All you fans keep saying that Southgate is terrible, but none of you ever, suggest a replacement, none of you ?.
Graham Taylor would like a word with you.
Just had 2 friendlies against Bosnia and Iceland, one of which we LOST, THAT was your time to experiment 😕, But the media and Talksport pundits were saying “it’s only a friendly don’t wanna get injured wait till the euros starts…”
Ja Talksport is a shame.
They defend Southgate all the time.
Southgate is too bad
They had the much wanted mainoo n rice in that Iceland match and they was so open they just played through the middle and scored
@@MrBrasserie They scored and we didn’t. Mainoo and rice is a good pair, his Trent positioning & attacking choices are what is the issues. Any team can score but what did we do after that? Nothing. And what have we done after taken the lead in these two games? NOTHING. so I don’t see your point?
@@emz7 Mainoo was very poor in that game tbf but one game shouldn't have put Southgate off that much
The "experiment" started the day he turned up with no left footed defenders ... Its a compromise from that point forward. Shuffling his pack with countless players out of their best position. And he ended up with 11 right foot players finishing the game against Denmark.
Astonishing
Has any team passed sideways and back more?
Man Utd!
Only in rugby😅
The only surprise, is that people are surprised. England have got a Championship manager, trying to win an International competition. It will end in tears once again, until a proper proven manager is made the manager of England.
Who do you suggest ? ?.
Championship mangers aren’t that bad
We have had many of the best managers in the world, but have never had such a squad of talented players as those of the last 3 tournaments, so it is not always down to the wrong manager, but in this case, perhaps it is. One thing is certain, playing players out of position has never worked at international level, and that is down to the manager, not the players.
@@wolfen210959 This group of players is not of the quality the English media would have us all believe.
Klop
Considering England played even worse after Trent went off it is clearly not just him that is the problem.
I thought the same. The problem is team wide and not about individuals.
@@paulwhite8358they couldn't create chance, TAA make the most create chance of all player yet got subbed & after that England totally play like shite 😂
TAA got subbed cause England was losing momentum in the game and when that happens you take TAA of cause he can’t defend for 💩 🤷🏾♂️
@@astroidroach1873
They were actually gaining momentum. Remember when he ran through the midfield and passed behind Foden? That was the problem. All the boys off form.
Noone thinks it's trents fault for englander overall perform but he's not a midfielder anr the conversation needs to move on now
When you are playing with 2 Central Mids the partner ship is everything. They need to instinctly know what to cover, what runs to make, where to be available and what moves to make to compliment each other. When you’ve got someone in their who not only doesn’t know the role but also hasn’t got that partnership your carrying a player in the most important part of the pitch.
Trent cannot start in a midfield 2. He doesn’t do it at club level and doesn’t know the position. A RB stepping into space with 3 midfielders around him is just not the same thing. England are almost playing with 1 man less. Obviously Phillips shouldn’t be there but at least he knows the position and how to build that partnership. The failure of Southgate is the sticky with Phillips for so long despite the clear signs he needed someone else, leaving it last minute then throwing Trent in just because he can cross a ball.
southgate sounds like a management consultant. no motivator.
Talksport are the Biggest defenders of Southgate.
Gareth is a lovely man a real English gentleman and he is very likeable he is a hero and such a lovely boy ❤️
Didn't Simon Jordan say he thought England were going to do well this tournament? Another failed prediction. 😆
@@joewhite22mean still time to go 😂😂
And as I've already mentioned Souness and Jordan are Southgate fans, these are 'experts' on the game.
@@joewhite22two games in, give it chance
"It's comin home" has turned into "We're comin home"...
England Will win a championship in the year 4038
Graeme bang on as usual, Bellingham is our best number 10 but hes also our best number 8 so play him there and let Foden/Palmer play the 10, their best positions.
Gareth and his obsession with two holding midfielders still holding England back
Southgate is the man setting the tone in the team and you can see the results. Nice guy but too clueless to see his limitations and is holding back a very talented group of players.
Who should replace him ?.
@@francishughes2016 I'll do it, zero experience, but I promise to do a better job. 👍🏿
Can you imagine how dismayed these players must feel under Southgate when they’re used to being managed by the likes of Klopp, Pep and Ancelotti?
Yes ; manager's who know what they are doing.
& Unai Emery
And ten hag and me
@@stretfordenders4013 Ten hag is much better given the injuries and players he had, England under Southgate plays like it is playing in Euro for the first time.
Why did Southgate have streets named after him for winning four games and losing three games in the 2018 World Cup?
That's not true, I havent seen a Muppet Road anywhere
For Southgate it rhymes with anchor. He is not a man manager he is clueless.
You must pronounce anchor differently over there.
you need to say the word rhymes with "banker" but on with the 'W' at the start hahaha
Flanker?
WANKOR!
What GS does alone under his bed sheets when all is quiet around him has nothing to do with the normal unfolding debacle that is England at major tournaments.
Look at that smile on Souness's face.
At least these plebs have turned their venom towards a manager that deserves their criticism
Leaving Grealish behind was such an act of stupidity that I lost interest before the tournament started. To make matters worse, he gave Grealish up for Gordon, who he has left on the bench. Unbelievable.
I called it months ago....there's only a slim chance England will go far in this tournament because EVERY time they come up against a decent side, they crumble. It's weird how these players cannot replicate their club form for England on a consistent basis! I think we're all wearing rose tinted glasses!
Gazza made a difference for england because he would run forward beat 1-2 men draw other players towards him and pass to the player with space who would then draw another man to him creating more space.
This england team want to play walking football thinking they will slowly pass it round a team who are back in formation
very good assessment fella
Gazza whould still a job in midfield ..😂
@@coyyiddo1701 We haven´t found a replacement for Gazza
@@elliotbullman4765 spot on comment ...
Psychological? No Gareth, its because you dont play players in their positions
Saka taken off was insanity. He was the only person on the pitch that looked dangerous for England. Worst match I've ever seen for England. Shocking. Playing around with the ball from the back, giving the ball away. Not harassing anyone at the front. Truly awful.
Saka’s not physically strong enough
Can you imagine the flack Saafgate would be getting if we had lost that match? He got away with one there.
He did the same against France in the world cup. I think he will take Sake off no matter what is happening on the pitch. He has no clue about game management.
This is on the FA!
Any team serious about winning wouldn't have gone into another tournament with Southgate as manager
He started the game with THREE right backs and no left back
Is Luke shaw injured? Regardless, even if there aren’t any big name left backs available, he could have taken some lesser known left backs to the euros and given them a chance to shine. And I mean actual left backs.
He had to name at least 2 as Shaw isnt fit and its not like we had many available.
Souness is absolutely bang on.
The worst of it came towards the end where the players didn’t really seem to know whether they were pressing or trying to play for the drawer. There was also arguing on the pitch, which tells you everything you need to know.
I also noticed a picture with Bellingham and Southgate leaving the pitch and the look on Bellingham’s face spoke 1000 words!
Stop defend Southgate England didn't win one game against a team over 20 in World ranking
So we didn’t beat Italy twice in qualifying?
Perhaps you mean in a tournament?
But then last Euros we beat….Germany.
@@Nick.Martin. Italy has played with players from the 2 league against England just look at the squad
@@adeldaqo3880 Who are the league 2 players for Italy?
@@adeldaqo3880 Whatever, they are ranked 6 by FIFA. That’s in the top 20! So we did beat a team in the top 20-inescapable.
@@Nick.Martin. so you think Southgate is good manager?
I find it hilarious how the fans were saying how brave GS was putting Trent in midfield and so many clamouring for this, now , no one is. England fans are also the problem
We’re nothing to do with Southgate’s choices. He’s hardly going to let the general public influence him. That’s hilarious.
Fans are "the problem". What does that even mean? Lol
Saying its brave to put Trent as a midfielder isn't the same as saying its a good idea. The fact is Trent playing there has not worked, he's not a midfielder, not technically good enough when on the ball under pressure. He's good when he's got time to pick out a pass when he has time to do so but in that central midfield position he has been found wanting and is a liability. That's not his fault, the blame lies solely at the person playing him in that position
My biggest issue isn't the fact that he tried Trent in that position, it could have been a good move with his passing capabilities. But the fact that he played him there again when it was clear and obvious that he isn't capable after the first game, that is unforgivable. The confidence of these lads now will be at an all-time low going into the knock phase if they don't rip Slovenia to pieces, a standard win won't suffice.
Everyone keeps blaming TAA but our best spell in both matches came when he was on the pitch and there was no improvement after he was subbed.
this is proof of bad tactics & management of team. this "experiment" shows a complete & utter ignorance of what we should be doing at this stage.
Crazy how these lads gave Ole Gunner a hard time and called him clueless yet Southgate still manages to escape the criticism.
I’ve heard that Southgate would make a ‘great coach’ for England if they took his teeth out and put seats in !!!!
Trent VASTLY outperformed Gallagher, who replaced him. It has nothing to do with Trent or midfielders v right backs. Southgate set the team up with Foden, Bellingham, and Kane all occupying the same exact space in midfield and NO LEFT SIDE PRESENCE. Trent is a passer of the ball. There are no runners to pass to. The boys are picking the ball up in midfield and staring out 5 of their mates all 3 yards from them. You don't have any width in the team and it's so easy to just smother England in possession because they have no space to move the ball into.
Southgate deserved the sack after the first game. It was immediately apparent he's learned absolutely nothing from his past failures.
If they are struggling with Denmark wait till they meet the powerhouses, France , Germany, Netherlands
U forgot Spain. There wingers will destroy us
Denmark is a team, thats why they sat Jude off. And England isen’t a team, they played individually
@@chatlotterorvig973 Spain are favourites now by far
The "experiment" clearly didn't work, but Southgate chose to restart the same 11, to continue the experiment and presumably to give the boys a chance to show they can play after all. The first sign of madness, is repeating the same thing and expecting a different result.
How long as Phillips been gone? Ahhh, Gareth, poor you are you missing him?
Kane looked like he was out for a Sunday stroll. He made ONE, JUST ONE, forward effective pass to Saka and then just slowly jogged towards the goal, ensuring that there was no one there to receive the ball back. He's clearly pissed about the setup, or perhaps he's pining for Phillips as well.
When he called up Mainoo I was impressed and thought ah yes hes seen the missing piece and grown the balls to pick him regardless of age and experience.. Then he goes and plays someone out of position there instead.
not physical enough and he and Gallagher left Rice isolated time after time vs Serbia. Serbia should have scored, half the England players are not international quality players.
@@Ruscococo1 Who would you rather see experimented with? Teen sensation of Manchester United natural in the position on the back of a match winning FA Cup Final goal , or the Accomplished right back who's not going to play CM for club?
Mainoo sucks bro get out of here
Mainoo achieved nothing in the youth leagues. What makes you think he is capable of competing with the best senior players in Europe?
@@asifitevermattered Gibbs-White who won all the youth level comps and is good for Forest who can create and defend, Loftus-Cheek whose smashed up serie A for AC milan...
I would bring foden right of midfield Bowen out wide right, roaming roll for Bellingham then second half look at may be Gordon being introduced with saka if needed
How I miss Venables
@craig3613venables yes but McLaren FFS
@craig3613Surely the wally with the brolly is the worst England manager of all time.
He picked the useless Southgate to take a penalty !!!
Why ?, he never won a trophy as England manager ? ?.
@francishughes2016 in England we support failure!!!
Why can't he experiment with Wharton in that midfield?
Calm, keeps it simple and can sit when Rice or whoever goes forward!
Dropping Saka for Bowen 😂
what a joke of a take this is... if England drop Saka their only dangerous attacker, they can forget winning anything for a long time.
@cryp35 Saka is not the player that will determine if a team wins or lose a trophy.
The fact he was cheering on Denmark tells you all you need to know…
@@LionKingMCFC Bowen most definitely isn’t 😂
@ashleymartin6521 So you acknowledge that Saka will not win or lose a team trophies. He's given what he can give, what he's always given. That's not trophies. The others are unknown factors at this level.
SOUTHGATE should be locked up for crimes against free-flowing, possession football
He's absolutely clueless
Southgate's managerial pedigree is plain to see, and has been for years. So let's take a look at his managerial pedigree .....
2005-2006 Middlesbrough finish 14th
2006 - Becomes Middlesbrough Manager (despite not having his coaching qualification)
2006-2007 - Middlesbrough finish 12th
2007-2008 - Middlesbrough finish 13th
2008-2009 - Middlesbrough Relegated in 19th.
2009 - Southgate Sacked.
4 Years out of Football
2013 - 2016 - Coach of England U-21
2015 - Finished bottom of group and knocked out of U21 Euros.
So.... 3 years in Prem Management where he was sacked for relegating Middlesbrough. 4 years out. Then 3 years not doing much with the U21 side.
Are we honestly surprised that he looks clueless????? He's not qualified. This isn't Ancelotti we're talking about here. This isn't Pep. He never earned any stripes as a top class manager. He's totally unproven and I think it shows every time England play.
I would literally prefer Sam Allardyce, because Sam can at least get average players to put a shift in.
I said that to my mates with regards Kalvin Phillips with tongue firmly in cheek,but cannot believe Southgate came out with that statement,he looks lost and bereft of Ideas,and that will translate itself on the pitch
Aren’t all the pointless friendlies when you do you experiments?
England managers are experts at wasting talented English footballers. It was ever thus!
Wharton, perfect replacement, sitting on the bench. Usual nonsense about being too young, blah, blah, blah... no other country uses that excuse.
What we need is a better, less defensive manager.
England over hype there players then when they are out there comfort zone they get exposed
How come it is always the very people who don't know what they are doing who control things? Every single pundit last night had a better idea than Gareth. Truly baffling.
I don't want to bash a manager who has taken us to a semi-final and a final in the last few tournaments. I am however frustrated at Southgate for thinking that a midfield screen of Declan Rice (box to box, but plays as an 8 for Arteta) and Trent Alexander Arnold (a fullback who inverts in certain circumstances for Liverpool) ... so Rice and TAA are the midfield that we want to go up against Portugal, Spain, France or Germany later in the tournament? So we honestly think Vitinha, Bruno Fernandes and Palhinha won't run rings around us? Or Kroos and Andrich won't make mincemeat? Or Rabiot and Kante? For goodness sakes.... this is a side that might limp through the group stages, might get lucky in the last 16. But unless we actually start picking MIDFIELDERS, we will get beaten by players who will be licking their lips against this stuff.
England haven't done well in the past because of Southgate's management. They've managed to progress despite him.
One of the few sensible comments in here
He's had months to prepare his plans A, B, C, etc. Kalvin Philips was out of the picture months ago so if his system, whatever that is, requires that type of player then he should have sorted one out or changed the system. Experimenting now is ridiculous, but so is selecting a squad with only one left back who hasn't played this year and still isn't fit. Man Utd fans should be pleased with this development as he's working himself out of their manager's position.
Scrubgate doesn’t know what day of the week it is! You play Trent who’s strength is his ball deliveries but you only have one player in the front 3 who runs in behind… you then take Trent off and bring on players who run in behind. WHAT ARE YOU DOING 😂 You then imply that if we had Kalvin Phillips, who’s contribution to this entire season was being sent off for West Ham, is the reason it’s not working. BAFFLING
Almost like he was listening to all this "experts" on the Tv that was so excited with trent being such a world class maradona or messi kind of player that going to win games
So many fans have seen all this before, it's disappointing but no shock. What happens next feels easy to predict:
1 - A better performance in the last group game and/or last 16
2 - Media forget the bad vibes and get back on the wagon. "England have arrived" etc...
3 - The same thing happens again and England go out with a weak performance, characterised by an inability to adapt during a game
4 - Southgate leaves and gets knighted
5 - Everyone gets excited about the next England manager prospects
6 - Everyone is disappointed with the new England manager appointment
Cynic? Yep.
Southgate is a rubbish manager and I have no idea why he’s still in charge. Such quality players & he has no idea how to use the lads to their strength.
They might be piss-poor at football, but there are none better when it comes to wokery!
Love how calm and rational simon is. Anyone sensible has seen this for the past 4 years at least. We have been incredibly fortunate, which is strange and funny as before gareth we had no luck at all. Easy draws, easy games yet people are only now seeing the bad performances as what they are? As soon as i saw the serbia slovenia game was a draw i saw this coming. Lazy performance just doing the bare minimum to go through. Maybe its the plan but if it is its a bloody weird one
Let's be honest, Trent isn't good enough for right-back let alone mid-field.
😂 right , UCL winner .
@@alastairbrewster4274 He has fallen far from that, c'mon now.
Get rid of Southgate he's the problem wake up England
Every single person who says get rid of Southgate, not a single one of you suggest who should replace him ? ? ?.
@@francishughes2016Howe, Potter, the kit man, the boot cleaner, doesn’t really matter as literally anyone would do better than Southgate at this stage. The players could manage themselves better without Southgate.
He’s got Bellingham / Rice / Foden in midfield & they’re getting bossed by Denmark……
This has been coming for eight long painful years. Southgate is and always was an inadequate manager of England.
How many fools were there pre tournament calling for Trent to play in midfield though. Now with hindsight they've disappeared.
Where are his runners ? Why can't the rest of the team keep the ball ? Why is he switching the ball to a left back with no pace and no left foot? Where are Kanes runs ? Fodens ?
Created 3 chances 5 line breaking passes. Without him we look just as bad if not worse as all Gallagher can do is run.
Lol. Trent has great ability, but you can't argue that it makes sense to put a RB in midfield. You have to learn that position.
Arguably he isnt learning that position as he plays it all the time at club level. The team need to keep the ball and have runners. Sure put Warton Mainoo. Then you will see how they cope with 'retreat ball' what will they do when the other team has more possession. 25 uninterrupted passes. The imbalance of this side isn't down to just a ' 6' many many more issues
Worst manager England have had in living memory should have sacked him after he blew the World Cup. And the Kalvin Philips missing being the problem is just laughable he hasn’t got a clue. Played and managed at a mediocre level we will never win anything with a FA yes man in charge of the team
Selfish Southgate should have walked a long, long time ago.
Worst two games of the tournament zzzzzz
Look Denmark are 3rd or 4th Division types and well the pitch wasn't the best ,is a factor HOWEVER the performance was pathetic. Look you have to dominate the centre (midfield) or if you haven't got the skill let them have it and when you get the ball go Long. There was away to beat Denmark easily and that was conventional wingers take um on by line and crosses over and over and over . But that is simply imagination in England's eyes
Southgate ay got a clue 🙈
Imagine if Man City or Arsenal made injury excuses. Southgate should go back to being a lower league manager. He's been scamming the FA out of £ millions for 7 years.
Southgate claps when the plane lands while wearing a bib to eat cereal with a fork to save milk
Jim is the master of telling us random s hit we don't need to know - 'we had great seats there'
Half of what he says is just useless filler. I’m glad I’m not the only one who sees it!
Pity they artinaatopn
Why the surprise? He's a not very good manager. Simples.
Just a few weeks ago, there was a clamour by the media and pundits to start trent in midfield, whilst ignoring the young midfield options they had all in the name of inexperience. Look at Spain, Turkey and the other nations. If you're good enough, you're old enough.
Surely there must be more than one English left back playing in one of the league's.
Mitchell at Palace. Would be ideal.
Southgate's tone when he speaks sounds depressed. The stress and anxiety of his role and the task at hand, is blocking his the level of energy he should be giving to the role. He doesn't sound scared, but he sounds like he is trying to consciously hold his composure - it all seems unnatural. He is no longer the right guy to get the most out of these players.
England need belief, which comes from natural positivity.
England need to pick their best team rather just rely on individuals to bail them out. I’d go with
Pickford
Walker Stones Guehi trippier
Rice
Bellingham Mainoo
Saka Kane Gordon
Mainoo to give more composure in midfield and help rice defensively, Gordon to stretch the game on the left
Bang on, we don't need two dm's, not with this talent.
8 years as manager 8 years to get it right 8 years to get the right blend of players the right playing style and a winning team. He sounds more like the leader of the Cons Party, a Politician, full of bull excuses and no answers, excuse after excuse and with it failure after failure. With the squad England have winning should not be an experiment but a given, sady another failed tournament down to incompetence lack of skill and just plain USELESS, all the fault of one person, the MANAGER
keep a settled team all the way through qualkifiers & competition. Play a "team" rather than individual stars, & play players in for and in their correct position. Whjy are England the only team in competition toply at walking pace and always retreat & hand initiative to opposition over last 30 years???
for once just once can 1 or 2 of our players play with Beckhams passion like in 2001 v Greece
But they need to conserve their energy for the final. Sitting deep and absorbing endless pressure takes a lot of energy you know!
They said it just friendlies, then it just the first game, now the 2nd game😂 They are not Real Madrid nor France for turning up like a switch. Read the room
I dont think someone like southgate has achieved anything as a manager to get the respect of the players and thats why hes so placid even when were getting dominated. He has no balls to dig out the team so we just slack off.
I thought you experimented during friendlies not in actual main games..inept comes to mind...
No high press, no tempo, no energy, no cohesion = no real direction from the management team. Southgate needs to get a grip and fast.
Trent. Chances created 3. Line breaking passes in the opponents half 5. Trent created more in 50 mins than any other England player. Also didn't endanger the team with the crazy loss of possession like Kane, Rice etc etc.
When Trent left the pitch there was 4t minutes of the second half left to play. England did nothing. Where are his runners ? Why can't the team keep the ball ? Love a scapegoat don't they
it is more what they do than who is playing!
The FA should have gotten on the phone to Klopp a couple months ago and said "fancy coaching England for a month?"
Tuchel is a better cup manager
@@Ruscococo1 To be fair I reckon I could do a better job than Southgate.
"Kane in an unassailable position" and you think that Southgate is changing because he took him off?
A blind man could have worked out that Kane needed replacing. ONE TOUCH IN THE BOX!
Southgate should be sacked now if not gonna play Foden, Bellingham, Rice in Midfield
I think the local teen team could best this England squad....endless talent endlessly lost on the pitch. It's so boring to watch... no aggression, no desire, does anyone ACTUALLY care? It really doesn't look like it. People go on and on and on about the immense talent of these players and they literally do NOTHING. What do they prepare in camp before a tournament because they seem to have ZERO clue what is going on when a tournamwnt starts. Its like the players are all meeting for the first time in the group games. So bizarre.