BMW E92 M3 Seat Upgrade - ** Fitting BMW M4 Seats **
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- Опубликовано: 30 июл 2019
- In this video I go into detail on installing BMW M4 seats into my E92 M3 with full details on the process from start to finish with details on wiring loom & codes required to make this a factory like instal.
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This looks wonderful, anyone not in the know would assume that's stock. I have an LCI F82 comp and now I have G82 CF bucket envy! Great video bud.
Thanks Kenneth, really chuffed with them 👍
Funny enough I wondered if the new carbon backed ones from the GX series M4 would fit the e92 😅
Thanks again. This is pretty straight forward on F80 swap to a sedan or hatch as well. I appreciate it. Same thing, use an LCI seat module in E90, and swap the wires to the original plug.
Your welcome and glad the guide helped 😎
BEAUUUUTYY!! Thanks man!
Brilliant! Great video
Thanks 👍
great video mate.
Excellent video very clear and informative
Thanks 👍
Great guide, thank you so much.
Your welcome Nick 😎
@@stoneautomotive Ended Up getting them set up. Really quite easy in most E90s with the 3-connector module. did another set in an e82. This is much more involved with the older and larger modules.
Thank you very much for this video
Your welcome Anthony 😎
thank you
Just fitted mine today, pretty straight forward, thanks for the video!
Glad it helped 😎👍
So you has the face lifted e92 I assume? Was it straight forward just take the old e92 seats out and drop in the m4 seats? Nothing else in particular? I wanna get this done as well!
Did you get the seat lights working?
@@gedam131 I got them to be on permanently based on if the side lights are on, just ran a wire to the rear boot lights. Or just hook them up to the ones shown on the video if you'd prefer them to go off.
Hello can you send me picture from passenger side plug? the heating and pillows do not work for me
Love the video! Just a question. I got an LHD E92 M3 Pre LCI and I was wondering if I buy the M4 seats + white modules from an E92 M3 LCI, would the procedure be the same like you describe in the video (of course without needing to code out the headrests) and still work?
Kind regards from Sweden
Just saw the lasts few seconds of the video kinda showing me the answer I was looking for but a double confirmation from you wouldnt hurt either! 😅
Correct 👍
I absolutely love the F82M4 chair. Would love to port to the E92 M3. Is there a detailed instruction on the wiring of the chair and how to jump it. thanks
Brief details of the wiring in the video, sorry it wasn’t the most detailed, tec details in the video have gotten much better 😬
Hey, i did the M4 seat upgrade too. But on both seats the lumbar and seat bolsters are not working. Memory and the rest works fine.
Great Work!!
Is it possible to opposite?
e-chassis (black module) to f-chassis (white module)
w / out memory
I want to use the seat heater and ABS of my Recaro seat
Hi,
To be honest I wouldn’t know as it’s not something I’ve tried but I would have thought no as the black module is not suitable for the FX seat.
Thanks,
James
Great video! Going to do this install this weekend on my LCI E92. For coding, what module do I enter (CAS, FRM, etc) for the occupancy sensor and active headrest options?
Hi Sean, over a year ago now but almost certain it was the ABG (air bag gateway) from memory
@@stoneautomotive Cheers mate! Got it all sorted this morning with no codes. Couldn't have done it without your video and help! Thank you!
Your welcome Sean and glad to hear you got them in without any issues 😎
If you want them any lower you can drop another 20mm+ deleting the runner (does loose the forward/ backward motion but now sit perfectly 😎
Details in my project thread - forums.m3cutters.co.uk/threads/stones-2011-e92-m3-competition-project.207436/page-4
Great work. Did you get them any lower than the 15mm? You mentioned you had an idea of how to in the vid
Yep 😬
All detailed in my project thread -
forums.m3cutters.co.uk/threads/stones-2011-e92-m3-competition-project.207436/page-4
Thanks for an interesting video. Do you have any knowledge of a similar seat swap for an E60/61 M sport., or what seats might be a suitable better supporting choice. Thanks.
Hi Gareth, I’ve only ever tried it on the e92 so couldn’t confirm sadly
@@stoneautomotive Thanks for the reply, I appreciate the response.
Great video! I found some 2015 M3 cloth seats for my '11 E92 coupe. Do you know if the F80 M3 seats are the same as the M4?
Sadly not tried F80 M3 seats to confirm if they work, do keep in mind they won’t tilt forward if you still have rear seats as there not designed for a coupe
Thank you for the content! Apologies, I haven’t sifted through the comments to see, but you were mentioned not using the back seats because of the different console type, but did you consider using the e90 console plate to address that? It seems like some of the message board posts show people doing that.
Your welcome 👍
I couldn’t make it work at the time with the seats I had as the brackets didn’t fit on the sides, now running a roll cage in the rear I have no need at all to experiment 😅
@@stoneautomotive makes sense…. thank you. Cheers.
Yes!!!!!
Great video! Can you tell me where did you buy the seats?
These were purchased used on eBay, they can be purchased new from BMW but are very expensive
Hi there,
Thanks to your fantastic video, I'm almost done with the installation of the M4 drivers seat in my F21.
Only one thing. My father (the electrician on the job) asks the voltage of the M seat light. Can you help me out again?
Thanks ahead. Daniël - Flanders.
Hi, thanks for the kind words.
The “purple cable” accepts 12 volts - unsure if there is a resistor in the seat that reduces that before actual LED but the foot well lighting is 12v
Would these seats be plug and play for a 2016 1 series? It would be the LCI facelift model.
I have no idea lol.. only discovered fitment into the e92 M3 through trial & error.
Thanks,
James
Hi, I'm trying to install a same (drivers)seat into my BMW F21.
I'm having trouble to find the wire for the light in the M seat emblem. You say it's purple, I've founde a purple one but it isn't the wright one.
Can you please give me some advise to locate this wire more easely.
And after finding the good wire, what is the best car wire to connect to so I can see the light of the seat when I unlock the car?
Many thanks for your answers.
Dany - Belgium.
Hi Dany,
The seat light cable is simply in the loom/ plug & without taking the seat apart I can’t advise an easier solution to locate it. There’s not a lot of cables that go into the plug so should be easy to rule out unless the light is broken?
As per my video I used the rear foot well lighting circuit on the e92 (on the positive feed is required as the negative is already provided from the seat
Good job! I am wondering if I can retrofit my e92 lci non-sport seats (heated with memory) with f32 sport seats (heated with memory).
Have you any ideas on it? Would it plug and play with no issues?
Hi,
Sadly I’ve only ever experimented with the M cars to advise if it will work.
Will this work with a 2016 3 series gt?
just bought the seats and i was wondering if wiring ginna be the same in usa car? or i should use opposite scheme? because my car is lHD
Pass, only ever tried on UK RHD car but I would be surprised if it’s different, a subscriber has confirmed the e90 (saloon) didn’t work with the F80 M3 seats sadly
Do you think this will work with the e90 if i use the f80 m3 seats? I sat in a f80 and really liked the seats and my e90 seats dont hold me in turns
I’ve had few subscribers advise the guide works on non M-cars so fingers crossed for you but I couldn’t say 100% I’m afraid as I haven’t tried it personally
Hi mate is it possible to do a walk through video of how to use/code out airbag once installed seats on ncs expert?
Potentially if I change the seats to Recaro pole positions I’ll do more on the NCS expert
Just to confirm when you coded out the ocupencey sensor did you have the sensor disconnected before coding out ? having a night mare with the airbag/seatbelt lights on even after coding @stoneautomotive
@@rampstar yes sensor needs to be un-plugged from memory
Great video, will m4 seats fit a 2012 bmw 328i F30
Afraid I have not tried but I can’t see why not, I would imagine the loom/ plugs “should” be plug and play
@@stoneautomotive thank you
Great job man
I have same setup . I can't get the belts to work.
no one accuses anyone sitting on seat .. the belts are not delivered by the arm
what coding is needed?
Hi, thanks! All the lines of code that require disabling are detailed in the video for them to work 100% like an original seat on the e92 M3.
All the seat belt hand overs should work like the original seat so I’m not sure what you have done incorrectly. Are the seat belt pre-tensioners all in working order? (not been detonated before etc)
@@stoneautomotive I am analyzing what may have done wrong.
Do you have the original e90 or m4 pre-tensioners(Seat Buckle)
And I have other problm I have Uk seats And I drive left side in Portugal
Good morning, I run the original E9x seat belt belt buckles as the plug on these works with the original E9x car wiring loom once you switch the plugs over.
The canbus on the seat modules is sensitive to left/ right hand side so using right hand drive seats on a left hand drive car may have caused you some issues which unfortunately I wouldn’t have the answer to.. you “may” be able to simply swap the seat modules round to the other seats to rerun the memory functions but I couldn’t say for sure.
@@joaocandido7635 boas, qual é o teu carro, e que módulos usaste? Do M3 ou de um e9x normal? Sempre conseguiste por tudo a funcionar?
I’m looking to install Sparco seats on my F30, I have the seat brackets from an E90, would those fit the F30, are the mounting holes the same for both cars?
The bolt/mounting points are the same on the F & E series cars 👍
Hi can u help in terms of the passenger seat wiring diagram or even a pic of your plug
Hi,
It’s the same as the drivers side but the extra cables you have will be for the occupancy sensor which you don’t plug in and will need to code out.
Thanks,
James
Great video. Please it is there perceptible diferrent with seating position? I mean in my m3 e92 I have a feeling, that I'm sitting so much up, I would like to go more down. Are those M4 lower? Thanks for answer. Miro
Thanks, yes around 15/20mm lower than standard e92 M3 Seats. It doesn’t sound a lot but does make a big difference as the standard seat height on the lowest position is terrible
@@stoneautomotive how much lower are the m4 seats over the the Sport seats in the e92? I have a e92 with the sport seats and would like to sit a little bit lower
@@robertsc it was roughly 10-15mm lower than the stock e92 seats, I’ve now deleted the sliding runner which has dropped them a good 30+ mm which is awesome now 😎
@@stoneautomotive thanks for the reply :) did you had the normal e92 seats before or the sports seats?
@@stoneautomotive do you have a pictures of the sliding runner? Dont really know what you mean
I couldn’t get the seat lights working. Any tips on that? Connected them but nothing.. you would assume a 12 volt would do the job.
You need to run a new 12v positive to the purple wire as detailed in the video which is ideally fed from the foot well lighting circuit to switch on/ off correctly (past that I cant see why it’s not working)
So on my bmw 135i I recently swapped interior and i got power seats but they dont work i didnt have power before, i installed them correclty everything clicked same connections, im wondering if you know a fix any suggestions?
Hi, without seeing the car I would have no idea I’m afraid.. if you didn’t have electric seats before then the first thing would be to check you have wired up the looms correctly. Very difficult to diagnose these sorts of issues without seeing the car
Hello wanting to do this to my e92 335i m sport do you have the codes of the seat modules you used im assuming all I will need is lci seat modules as mine is pre lci and also m4 seats and the rest will be coding any help would be greatly appreciated:) many thanks
Hi,
Don’t have the module part numbers I’m afraid, maybe worth looking on eBay to see if any one has a picture of the bottom of a set of LCI stock seats so that you can confirm the number 👍 they are also different for seats that are heated etc
First! Great job!
Thanks
Hello . I put In my e93 , f33 seats . They work but the seats are from uk car and I don’t now what I need to replace some wires or something because in this moment my car computer is don’t knows what seat are left or right
The modules are side sensitive, only tried Uk seats on a UK car to confirm. You maybe be able to swap the modules over or need to buy left hand drive modules but try is at your own risk as I have never tried to confirm.
What do you think of the recline feature. Is it more on the m4 seat. I find that the e92 seat bottom part doesint recline enaught for me. And when you say that you sit lower in m4 seat how is the leg room under the seat in the back?
@@edvinasalisauskas7330 really happy with the M4 seat, it does provide much better support and because your lower your legs sit nicely under the steering column.
I’ve never had any complaints from people sitting in the back (when I did have rear seats)
Does this work for a Non-M LCI E92 as well?
I haven’t tried but a follower of the channel said it worked on there 335d e9X 👍
Hi there,could you recommend somewhere that would fit the m4 seats into an e92,i'm from Wolverhampton,but the places i've asked wont do it! Any help would be appriciated
Hi,
I can’t guarantee it but I would certainly drop Tom at Spartan Automotive a message 👍
@@stoneautomotive Thanks will give him a call
If I have a e93 and want to put the m4 convertible seats will it work?
Pass I’m afraid, only ever tried on the Coupe (I’ve heard from Subscribers the e90 wasn’t a straight swap)
where did you get the m4 seats from? and how much did you pay?
eBay from a car breaker, they sell for £1,000 - £2,000 for the set
Quick question, I’m confused by one thing.
Pre lci m3, so I need to source the white seat modules.
Do I need to make sure the car the modules come from has heated, electric and memory functions, or does it not matter?
Correct, they need to be heated/ memory and are side relevant, for example you can’t use a passenger side on a drivers module due to the canbus
@@stoneautomotivethanks for clearing it up! Makes it a fair bit harder to find the correct seat control modules
Thinking about doing this to my e46 m3
And Information you can help with
It’s a big job for the e46 sadly, the base frame/ floor mounts don’t bolt in so would require custom mounts which will likely sit to high and the Canbus doesn’t work with the E9x F8x seats so would need to be manual non heated versions. Easier to instal Recaro CS which I have in my e46 M3 👍
Anything is possible just depends how much your willing to spend
Hi, i have a e92 325i and i would love to put this seats... it's pre-lci, would it work? The modules need to be from a M3 lci or can be from a non-M lci car? In my case would the seats mount on the brackets like the OEM ones? Thanks for the help
Hi, one of my subscribers has confirmed it works on non-M cars 👍
It’s not something I have tried to confirm myself but providing you have the later modules “hopefully” it will work - I’ve only tried this on the M3 so can’t guarantee on other models.
@@stoneautomotive nice, and who is the subscriber to i ask of he used the M3 modules or the non-M modules. Thanks for the answer
@@JoaoOliveira-tc3fi was over a year ago now, i can’t recall the user sadly
@@stoneautomotive np, i just got my bimmer too late ahah, within this year i hope i will try to put them in my car, amd hope to get lucky enough to work ahah thanks for your help
@@JoaoOliveira-tc3fi good luck 👍
do you know if it is possible to do this on a E63?
Very unlikely, floor mounting will be different along with the wiring loom/ canbus system... anything is possible with enough money & time but certainly not a few hours work
I turned the head restraint to nicht aktiv in ncs but the light is still coming on
Use INPA to determine the fault code that’s registering, the occupancy sensor will need to be coded out too.
Only other thing will be to double check your wiring
Didn’t have any power problems? I have a 335i and the seat only runs for 1 minute and then I can’t make it move again, I read something about a 5v signal, i couldn’t find where in the seat
Sounds like you have the wrong seat modules as detailed in the video
I have newer seats, maybe is that? I tried switching modules but didn’t work at all, even tho they plug
hello do you think they would fit in a bmw e87 ?
Sadly I have never tried to confirm.
Thanks
James
Does anyone know the part numbers for the LCI seat modules the ones with the heated seats functionality?
I’ll be taking the seats out this month for the cage so will have a look for you 👍 I’ve been advised by one subscriber to the channel that the non-m3 ones work too as long as it’s LCI from an e92 with heating/ memory/ electric seats but obviously can’t guarantee it as not tired it myself
@@stoneautomotive lovely thanks buddy 👍
I have an E90 LCI, anyone know what better seats would work for me? just the front seats if its not possible the back. I have heating and the only thing electric is the shoulders, everything else is manually adjusted.
Did uou try to fit the rear seats?
Yep, lower section is completely different - the M4 rear seat is lower section is not linked to the centre consol like the e92 ☹️
Where are the codes you coded out?
Hi bro reg m4 seat rear moving switch working with e92
I can’t even work out that question 😅
I mens front seat back swich uses for for move seat forward and reverse @stoneautomotive
Does this work in a e90 335i also?
I know it does on a e92 335i but apparently the e90 runs a different seat base for the buckle and the loom is different so not a straight swap sadly
Hi,
do i just have to put on the purple wire + and the M logo lights up?
Correct, the best one to run it off is the foot well lighting as it will power on & off with the interior lights 👍
@@stoneautomotive thanks Bro
Hello I’ve tried running the purple wire to the foot well lighting and the seat lights aren’t working do I need to run a ground cable as well?
Do these seats sit lower than stock?
Yep, one of the reasons I went ahead with it, seems roughly 15mm
I’m new to the Beamer game don’t know what lci face lift pre an post means soooo I have a 07 328i can i do this swap ? If so what do I need
Hi,
I’ve only carried out the conversion on the M3, LCI models are typically 2010 onwards so a 2007 wouldn’t be a straight swap I’m afraid
Stone Automotive ohh ok well thank you for that insightful info greatly appreciated
Where he get these seats tho I’m tryna install some into my f30 328i
Salvage/ breakers yards from companies stripping M4 for parts
@@stoneautomotive how do I find those, I live in Sarasota fl
@@davidaragon6499 you can find them from car breakers or new from BMW but I dread to think how much they will cost
Would these fit in an e82/e88
Hi Zak, I haven’t tried to confirm I’m afraid.
Why is it that the steering wheel it's in the wrong side?
Right hand drive cars as found in the UK and Japan
hello have a technical question my driver's seat does nothing at all with the e92 lci module. but does work with the f82 seat module, but all get errors on the screen. can you help me? plug after adjustment of passenger side?
Hi,
Providing you have the right side connected, for example you can’t use a passenger seat module on the drivers side. Providing you have carried out the wiring correctly I can’t advise I’m afraid.
@@stoneautomotive hello first of all for your comment and support. this is a left hand drive car. luckily everything on the driver's seat now works the reason for it. Not working was the main plug of the module made bad contact. 👍 Only the passenger seat doesn't work, not all the heating and the inflatable side cushions pump don't work. Do you have a picture of this chair of plug connections because I did not see a picture of this plug.
It's a pity I can't post a picture of the passenger side plug. because it is different with other cables. can someone help me the driver side is ok.
@@seyfo1971 the passenger side should be the same except for the occupancy sensor which will need coding.
@@stoneautomotive kan i send you a picture how it conneted at this moment
Is it possible to do this modification in an e46 M3? Thanks
It would be a big job, the floor mounting is different & the canbus would not be compatible so non of the electric motors or heated seats would work like the stock e46 sadly
Thanks for the support. Nevertheless great job like always!!!
Thanks & agree it’s a shame as for the money the M4 seats are great!
Thanks & agree it’s a shame as for the money the M4 seats are great!
Hello can someone here help me out please. I have problems whit my passenger side. I have different color cables. Can someone send me link ore a picture from this plug Cannot get it fixed. The driver side works fine but sometimes the memory functions acting crazy
Hey, does seats fasteners with bolts fits plug and play? Regards
Yep as per the video the e9x seat buckles bolt to the F8x seats perfectly 👍
@@stoneautomotive so i dont need to use any adapter or weld? :)
@@maciejlewandowski3561 nope 😬
@@stoneautomotive please answer with interchangeable words because "nope" sounds ambiguous 😅
@@maciejlewandowski3561 no welding required - watch the video 😅
Wow they look so much better! And like you say still “factory+” I could do all the mechanical side of it no problem, it’s the coding that will scramble my head 🤦🏼♂️ no good with computers! Shame ☹️
There are companies that will code for you, seems to be around £100-£150 depending on where you go.
I’m not great with coding to be honest but when I want to learn something I end up putting my mind to it and spent an hour studying a few guides on line and got there in the end 👍 hardest part was trying to get everything working as it wasn’t a done modification so hopefully the guide helps a few 😊
Stone Automotive I’ll have to see if I can find a company that can do it for me, like I say I could do the putting them in and wiring them up no problem, it’s the coding, I’ll end up making it never drive again 🤦🏼♂️😂
It’s not that bad of job, just need to take your time and make sure you code the correct module 👍
Imagine how I felt first time round, no one had confirmed which lines of code needed editing for the M4 seats so was trial and error (which meant a few weeks with the airbag warning light & bong every drive 🤦♂️)
Stone Automotive nice 🤦🏼♂️😂😂😂
That’s a lot of work! Seems much easier to just buy aftermarket seats for the E9x
Can it fit and work on e63 m6 :((
Pass, never tried I’m afraid 🤷♂️
How tall are you mate?
And how much did the m4 seats cost?
6”2 & I’ve actually managed to lower the seat another 25mm by deleting the runner with home fabricated brackets - seats on the floor now but obviously loose forward/ back ward motion on the drivers side.
Price wise in the UK seems to be around £800- £2,000 depending on the seller, you can pay more for Comp seats
@@stoneautomotive cheers mate, I have the off white leather I wonder if I can get that colour.
Awesome informative channel my friend.
Thankfully the black leather is “pretty close” on the F82/e92 so no real issues for me but as you mention maybe more of a challenge for you although there are companies that can dye them 👍
Glad your enjoying the videos 😎
Can u help me fit it il pay u mate iv got e90 m3 seats i want to put m4 front seats I bought iv also bought the lci modules
Hi Khan,
I’ve not tried to fit the M4 seats into the e90 M3 so unsure if this is a direct swap or if you will need F80 M3 seats as the tilt and upper electronic slide option maybe different.
Thanks
James
They are also direct fit mate iv got lci seats e90 as spare
@@khanalive9533 hey can you help e out i cannot mannage the passenger side work 100% the side kussens and heating is not working
Where do Buy m4 seats
BMW parts department, very expensive though! Or you can then from a breaker or salvage agent from a stripped one for around £1,500
Stone Automotive Do you know if these will fit E63 6 series LCi?
Afraid I have never tried to confirm if they work
Do you think this is something someone with little mechanical experience should try to tackle? 😅
And is there a video where you were doing it all?
I guess the real question is if it does go wrong do you have the funds to resolve any damage especially compared to what a garage/specialist would charge for the job in the first place 😅
If you short circuited something with the wiring loom or incorrectly coded a module it could become very expensive to repair.
The newer guides I now put out contain alot more detail but there is no follow on for this one I’m afraid, it was created to provide pointers for those familiar with the tools and to show it can be done after many said it couldn’t 👍
Just buy a m4! Be the engine next! I've got a m3 e92 and will be getting super charged next but keep mine as a e92 .
Odd comment 🤷♂️ the standard seats in the e92 M3 are mounted way to high, provide minimal support and look as exciting as what you would find in a 320i.. I run the Recaro CS seats in my e46 M3 which for me are the best after market option but you loose the memory/ heated functions where’s the M4 seats provide the factory functions.
The callipers from the M4 would be a good upgrade as opposed to the stock single piston brakes on the e92 but the S55 is the last engine I would want in the e92.
Could have been a great video, but all talk and no actual walk-thru. If you would have actually shown people what you were doing rather than just talking about it video would have been decent. As is…not so good. Down voted.
The videos have come along way since this one if you have seen any of the later ones, it’s helped many so sorry to hear my efforts were of zero help to you.
Wait what module? Did you say from a e90 serious car? I couldn’t understand I’m sorry..what all do I need to install the f80 m4 seats in my e92 anyone got a rundown?
You will need an LCI seat module (essentially if your car is a 2008 - 2010 it will have the old module which doesn’t work on the M4 seats) for the M4 seats to work you will need a module from a 2011+ e92 M3
Done this swap this week but don’t seem to have memory function nor do i have the bolster functions 🤔 any idea why? I have pre lci
You will need the LCI white modules as detailed in the video 👍
@@stoneautomotive sorry should have mentioned that i’ve got the white lci modules also
@@davidjbruce pass I’m afraid, potentially double check your wiring has been pinned correctly