I think it’s kinda funny how everyone keeps saying “She should be a pop star” “She deserves better” while constantly looking at her past. Why not stream her new music then like 😂
agree, sure things didnt go the way it could have but its all in the past now and thankfully she was able to get out of that contract and now the best thing we can do is continue to support/stream her new music and new projects
@@Mal.victorythat would honestly make sense since I hadn’t really heard much about her in mainstream media since her victorious days - music or acting wise - until recent years ironically after Dan was outed/shut down
i just know firefly would've been THE album of 2013, love zombie, priceless, and solo are too good to be unreleased. just happy to know she's doing good these days!
@@conveniencestoreentertainm1968I feel like I’ve seen a lot of Trina fans online, actually! obviously her character was written to be stuck up and annoying but at least she has personality compared to Tori who, I feel, was bland
@@Iiv4life i was surprised to find out on how many didnt like her character tori, unless it was just a trend but i saw those videos come up on my fyp in 2021 i think, idk it just seems for a long time after victorious was canceled she was getting hate for no reason at all
Ariana came in with one of the best debut albums ever in 2013 but she was only getting recognised as the girl from Victorious. If Victoria came out with an album the same year it would be competing with Yours Truely (as it was girl from Victorious against girl from Victorious) and there is no chance her album would have a chance against Yours truely so she probably wouldn't get the publicity she was hoping for.
@@GUCCI_FAN true, but sooner or later there paths wouldve probably crossed in the music world even if victoria released her debut album earlier, and thou victoria just released gold some were already putting them against each other so really you couldnt get around it, i think if the label wouldve believed more in victoria they couldve turned things around with a 2 single, just like when ariana started with put your hearts up and then decided to change the direction of the album going from daydreamin to yours truly to then releasing the way that had big success making it her breakthrough to mainstream where put your hearts up didnt have that impact
I think being casted with such talented singers really killed her music career. She will always be compared to her cast mates. If she had been casted in a non-singing show, she might've done better in music.
Her stylists did her DIRTY and i feel like the image is very important for pop-stars. First of all - it's business. I mean, Ariana 2013 yours truly era looks are still all over the coquet pinterest + iconic signature as a hairstyle. While Victoria in 2013 was dressed like a retail manager aged 40+
I think the big mistake was her not being 100% clear and direct about music since the beginning. She needed to release covers and work with different songwriters and producers during the 2010-2012 timespan.
@@rayan4283 that is a good point, her debut shouldve been released much sooner as she was doing victorious since the promo would have probably been much better like playing her music videos for her solo music during commercial break like they did for the victorious songs but maybe even during that time behinde the scenes the label was already giving her trouble
I honestly think it got scrapped cause Gold was too Nickelodeon and not something to actually be taken seriously. Ariana blew up cause she strayed away from that image while Victoria embraced it.
@@noemistephanie93 yea having a label that was tied with nickelodeon wasnt the best idea, its obvious they wanted victoria to stay in that victorious/nickelodeon image and not let her grow out of it, where in acting she was able to grow. and ariana signing to another label away from nickelodeon though they tried with put your hearts up she was able to have some say when changing directions but sadly victoria probably didnt when putting her album together
@@Playlist_Popbut ariana grande did capitalize on the nickelodeon image at first to keep her audience intact, she didn’t become rebellious immediately with put your hearts up Ariana was smarter in her direction She took baby steps to prepare everyone for it
Y’all are making this a bigger spectacle than it needs to be. Victoria Justice would have made it big if Victorious was a Disney show. Nickelodeon has 0 experience creating music superstars. The first mistake was the casting. Victorious was made to launch Victoria Justice to superstardom. She should have been the ONLY singer on the show. Casting competition on the same show is a mistake that the Disney Channel would have never made. Disney would NEVER have casted Ariana Grande or Liz Gillies alongside Miley Cyrus on Hannah Montana. It would never happen. But Nickelodeon, either due to inexperience or incompetence, decided to cast actors who could potentially overshadow the main star. The reason why it was so easy for Miley, Selena and Demi to breakthrough was because there was no one else to compare them to. The problem with Victorious was that Victoria had competition right next to her. There are many other factors as well but that’s the main one. It’s really simple actually. I feel bad for Victoria. She was originally a Disney darling. She should have stayed with Disney. Victoria is the only reason Nickelodeon stayed relevant for as long as it did. Otherwise, nick would have only had iCarly and SpongeBob. Also, I’ve heard that Disney tends to show favoritism towards their alumni. Since Disney has a monopoly over the entertainment industry, it makes sense that Disney actors go on to be more successful. Like Zendaya who got casted in another Disney project (Marvels Spider-Man) which launched her to Superstar Status.
@@jaylenadegoke that is a good point disney had the experience while nickelodeon was trying to replicate them, yes maybe if she stayed with Disney things wouldve played out differently for her but there also a chance not, look at olivia holt, coco jones & etc there music career didnt flourish like demi, selena, miley music career did and speaking of victorious i have wonder if maybe victoria didn't star on a show that was music related things would worked out better since no one would have gotten to witness that side of her yet until her music debut, of course this is just my guess and option
I think victorious the only show that felt like the main star didn’t have enough attention because everyone knew Ariana and liz had better voices and they sung more songs on the other hand Disney had plenty of movies and shows where there multiple people would be singing it was more organized for people to not overshadow the person whose the main star
@@roisoyfer I feel bad for her I wish she still continued her music career I feel like she would’ve been the best singer songwriter of today bc Kissing You, About You Now and Dancing Crazy is sooo good
@@JoshuaGarza-m2z agreed, i loved miranda music kissin u, there will be tears, brand new you, adored, shakespeare, dancin crazy, sayonara, about you now, she made so many great songs
@@JoshuaGarza-m2z I do not think she did good because she did not give in to creepy Dan's command! Do you see the coincidence? People who do not give in creepy Dans demands "are not successful".
The weird fall of Vic definitely has a thing. We don't know what happens behind the scenes but Victoria obviously was being targeted especially the cyberbullying she got and many cancelled projects for NO reasons. Weird that she can't speak about a thing!
@@Asim112 it is strange seeing what happened, she was treated unfairly for doing nothing wrong and the internet bullying got out of control, as for projects she was in being canceled like eye candy im not really sure why that happened, maybe they just didnt connected with people which dose happen in acting and in music, but if something did happened behind the scenes maybe she cant say anything bc she signed an nda
@@Asim112 an nda is an agreement contract which usually actors sign even singers when working on a project or with a label in this case and by signing it you can't speak about certain details that happen behinde the scenes and if you do you will get sued and possibly blacklisted depending on who's in charge of that project or company of that label
I remember the album being called Firefly. Although, a lot of the unreleased tracks that leaked sound like they're scrapped from Victorious soundtracks.
@@glitterprincessk3 yea i noticed that when listening to the songs, i think it was more the label doing since it was tied with nickelodeon, they obviously wanted her to stay in that image, even knowing she didn't want to record gold or want it as the frist single but they kept insisting it and seeing how she left because of creative differences they probably didn't let her have much say towards the end when putting the album together
Although every one of her recent releases has been great, I miss hearing some of her older style of singing with a much darker, chestier, less breathy sound. Unfortunately I feel like the industry was shifting away from that sound when she came on the scene to a brighter, sugary, more youthful sound. The same shift happened at Disney following the Selena/Miley/Demi era with singers like China Anne McClain, Bridgit Mendler, and Coco Jones who had really strong voices but didn’t have that bright and high sound that was becoming the new industry standard.
I honestly think the reason why her music never took off was because it was the same ol' sound that we heard from the other teen stars from Disney/Nick (Miley, Selena, Demi, the Jonas Brothers, Miranda) at the time. Had she did more R&B sounding Pop ala old school Britney & Christina or Justin Bieber like, she would've had more success like her co-star Ariana Grande did.
that is a good point, but in victoria’s case, who wanted to try new things, her label didn’t want that, they wanted her to stay in that nickelodeon image, and since the label was tied with nickelodeon, that didn’t help either. ‘Gold’ wasn’t even a song she wanted to record, it was the label that kept pushing it and when you’re signed to a label, you sometimes have to compromise in order to have some say in your music which probably was getting difficult for her as the album was being created, which lead to it getting shelfed bc she probably didnt agree to what they wanted and what helped ariana was signing to a label away from nickelodeon, where the label probably gave ariana more of a say when she wanted to change "daydreamin’' to "yours truly"
I wonder what would have happened if Victoria stayed on Disney. Also, a youtube commenter said she was barred for six years from making music because of a non-compete clause when she left Columbia Records. Again, it was random guy commenting so I don't know how true it was. Also, did Nick do enough to promote their music? I don't think did otherwise maybe Freak the Freak Out and Beggin on your Knees would have been top 40 Hits though Freak the Freak Out did go gold. Also, I don't know they needed a music video for Beggin on Your Knees, just have the scene from the show.
seeing how disney had already experienced success in having their stars transition into music, it would have maybe helped in how victoria’s music career would have played out,i’m not sure about her being barred from making music for six years, as that guy commented, but it could be possible since the music industry is known for doing shady things, especially with contracts, its happened to artists like tinashe and jojo, and even zendaya has talked about bad contracts in the music industry, however from interviews it seemed she just wanted to focus on acting and have music on the side for the moment maybe bc of the bad experience she had being on a label as for nick promotion, they actually did something similar to what disney would do by playing the music videos for ‘freak the freak out,’ ‘best friends brother,’ & etc, during commercial breaks but when it came to promoting them beyond the channel such as live tv performances, there weren’t many like maybe two, the view and the ellen show, she did more tv interviews than singing performances, which i agree if there was more promo for the songs they would have been bigger, i also think its the reason ‘beggin’ on your knees’ got a music video, because they were trying to get the song more attention to boost sales
@@Playlist_Pop Maybe it wasn't a surprise Liz didn't try for a music career. Yes, she release an album though with Seth Macfarlane though she might try for one now like her co-star.
@@Playlist_Pop The reason I don't think beggin on your knees shouldn't have gotten a music video was because I thought the scene in the episode was good enough (my opinion).
Gold is an amazing unreleased song and personally it’s the best choice for her to release it as a single and it’s the best song she has ever wrote in history.
it's a shame the way things ended up with columbia, im just glad she was able to get out of that bad contract and release music independently with no problems since sometimes these contracts can be hard to break or get out of
@@Playlist_Pop I'm so glad to.... have you heard all the leaked songs? Not even gonna lie, this is my top 10 fave albums ever while not even being released
@@Playlist_Pop ADD love is my FAV and favorite song, then caught up in you. I actually even upscaled ADD love since the instrumental went to FEMM for the song whiplash
I think the problem was that Gold was too Nickelodeon. Comparable to Ariana’s Put Your Hearts Up. But it also seems like Victoria makes music for fun or a hobby almost. Wouldn’t bet on ever getting an actual album.
well like she said in that interview she didnt want to record gold or have it as a single but the label (also tied to nickelodeon) kept insisting and it was really them wanting her to stay in that nickelodeon image, even though she was ready to move on to different things and usually with labels you have to compromise alot which probably was getting difficult for her as the album was coming together which lead to it getting shelfed bc she probably barley had any say on it towards the end, which is why she focused on acting, as she was able to grow with no issues. I think what helped ariana was signing to a label away from nickelodeon, where the label probably gave ariana more of a say when she wanted to change "daydreamin’' to "yours truly"
I think gold was to sabotage her It doesn't make sense why they would choose that song considering how big she was at that time I wouldn't say i have 3 fav solo songs of hers but i do love treat myself better and last man standing
@@garyowens777 the music industry is a shady industry especially some of these labels, the thing with being signed sometimes you have to compromise alot in order to have some say and maybe she just agree with them to record the song (even though she didnt want too) hoping they let her have more say on her album which probably didnt ended up that way, same i also love treat myself
Is there any way for Victoria to officially release the songs from the firefly album? recently "love zombie" became popular on tiktok and I think she should re-record this album or just release
@@Andyy188 if she were to re-record the songs like taylor swift has done to get the rights back for her older albums or even bonnie mckee (co writer of teenage dream, hold it against me, part of me & more) her label back in 2013/14 shelf her 2nd album hot city, and athough she couldnt release bc of contracts/rights she found a way around it and re-recorded the songs and released the full album this year, i think it is possible but of course thats only if she wants to
Honestly Gold isn't a bad song. I kinda like it, but it does seem like a departure from the foot stomping solo tracks she did on victorious. Overall they didnt promote Gold that much, and they slacked when it came to releasing the album.
@@jdofficial504 i have a guess the label told her if she compromised she would have more say on the album which is why she agreed to do gold even though it wasnt a song she really wanted, but as the album was coming together they kept getting involved and since it was linked to nickelodeon it probably was causing problems which led to setbacks for gold promo along her debut album getting shelved
I think Victoria Justice is really talented, but just like Elizabeth Gillies, she is really good at acting rather than singing. Singers like Ariana Grande, Miley Cyrus, Demi Lovato and Selena Gomez, though they’re all start as actors, they really re-invent their image for their singing career and try to stay away from child actor image they’re used to have. She should venture more in acting since she is one of a hella good actor imo.
Victoria Justice was great as Tori on Victorious But If We're Being Honest Ariana Grande's Voice Stood Out The Most and Elizabeth The Girl That Payed Jade has an amazing voice as well, Victoria Just Doesn't Have that Star Factor to me......her voice has always been.....ok 🤷🏾♀️
@@BLKNOIZEPODCASTANDMEDIA i dont think it was her that said that since from what I read in articles this response was the frist time she spoke about dan and her experience
@@its_a_Mad_World yes, i hope i pronounced her name correctly if not i apologize, here is the video where she explains how to prenounce her name ruclips.net/user/shortsQh1R91Ti3RE?si=6GhQibY5UxY8XiPv
I think she's not a pop star cause she doesn't have what it takes. Her voice isn't nice enough to appeal to enough people and her style isn't special. Her newer songs play around a lot with high notes that are softer and not in a mixed belt which doesn't sound good for her voice type. However, even her mixed belts don't sound pretty either. Her voice is just mediocre. There are singers like Selena Gomez who can't sing that well but their voices are nice.
Let's be honest here - Victoria may have the voice to be a pop star, but she doesn't have the charisma and personality to do so. Ariana, on the other hand, has a much more memorable voice, is far and away the better singer, and actually has the drive to see things through.
This is such a lie. She has loads of charisma and excellent stage presence. Idk why people like you always bring up Ariana as if they’re the only two singers in the world.
She got blamed for things she didn't even do which is so unfair, but she's making music now better late than never ig
I think it’s kinda funny how everyone keeps saying “She should be a pop star” “She deserves better” while constantly looking at her past. Why not stream her new music then like 😂
agree, sure things didnt go the way it could have but its all in the past now and thankfully she was able to get out of that contract and now the best thing we can do is continue to support/stream her new music and new projects
because it sucks, I love victoria but her new music is just bleak and boring
so she also waited 7 years to release a albumn? oh normani has competition
LMAOOOOO
LMAO 😂
@@Mal.victorythat would honestly make sense since I hadn’t really heard much about her in mainstream media since her victorious days - music or acting wise - until recent years ironically after Dan was outed/shut down
i just know firefly would've been THE album of 2013, love zombie, priceless, and solo are too good to be unreleased. just happy to know she's doing good these days!
@@ally_1989 same, she deserves to be happy
omg didn’t knew she did all this charity work. now i like her even more
She is so underrated though. She was the least favourite character in her own shoe
I always thought Trina was the least favorite in that show. Also, her own shoe? I didn't know she had a shoe deal. Neat!
@@conveniencestoreentertainm1968people like Trina now
@@conveniencestoreentertainm1968I feel like I’ve seen a lot of Trina fans online, actually! obviously her character was written to be stuck up and annoying but at least she has personality compared to Tori who, I feel, was bland
@@Iiv4life i was surprised to find out on how many didnt like her character tori, unless it was just a trend but i saw those videos come up on my fyp in 2021 i think, idk it just seems for a long time after victorious was canceled she was getting hate for no reason at all
@@conveniencestoreentertainm1968 HELP SRY I MEANT TO TYPE SHOW
Ariana came in with one of the best debut albums ever in 2013 but she was only getting recognised as the girl from Victorious. If Victoria came out with an album the same year it would be competing with Yours Truely (as it was girl from Victorious against girl from Victorious) and there is no chance her album would have a chance against Yours truely so she probably wouldn't get the publicity she was hoping for.
@@GUCCI_FAN true, but sooner or later there paths wouldve probably crossed in the music world even if victoria released her debut album earlier, and thou victoria just released gold some were already putting them against each other so really you couldnt get around it, i think if the label wouldve believed more in victoria they couldve turned things around with a 2 single, just like when ariana started with put your hearts up and then decided to change the direction of the album going from daydreamin to yours truly to then releasing the way that had big success making it her breakthrough to mainstream where put your hearts up didnt have that impact
I know her vocals aren't as strong as other cast members from Victorious, I think she still had an IT factor and could've done really well.
I think being casted with such talented singers really killed her music career. She will always be compared to her cast mates. If she had been casted in a non-singing show, she might've done better in music.
It's because she's a actress
If she had the it factor then she would've succeeded
@@Shad106_ but she can't sing because of her low voice and she an actress. She flopped though
@@Shad106_ Naw she had shitty debut music, and was black listed by Dan Schneider
Her stylists did her DIRTY and i feel like the image is very important for pop-stars. First of all - it's business. I mean, Ariana 2013 yours truly era looks are still all over the coquet pinterest + iconic signature as a hairstyle. While Victoria in 2013 was dressed like a retail manager aged 40+
I think the big mistake was her not being 100% clear and direct about music since the beginning. She needed to release covers and work with different songwriters and producers during the 2010-2012 timespan.
@@rayan4283 that is a good point, her debut shouldve been released much sooner as she was doing victorious since the promo would have probably been much better like playing her music videos for her solo music during commercial break like they did for the victorious songs but maybe even during that time behinde the scenes the label was already giving her trouble
I honestly think it got scrapped cause Gold was too Nickelodeon and not something to actually be taken seriously.
Ariana blew up cause she strayed away from that image while Victoria embraced it.
Put your hearts up is the perfect example of this Ariana took that and pivoted unfortunately Victoria didn’t get the chance to
@@noemistephanie93 yea having a label that was tied with nickelodeon wasnt the best idea, its obvious they wanted victoria to stay in that victorious/nickelodeon image and not let her grow out of it, where in acting she was able to grow. and ariana signing to another label away from nickelodeon though they tried with put your hearts up she was able to have some say when changing directions but sadly victoria probably didnt when putting her album together
@@Playlist_Popbut ariana grande did capitalize on the nickelodeon image at first to keep her audience intact, she didn’t become rebellious immediately with put your hearts up
Ariana was smarter in her direction
She took baby steps to prepare everyone for it
I think Victoria did not get the chance because she did not give in creepy Dans demands!
ariana did nasty things with dan, thats why she succeeded
Victorious soundtrack will always be a banger
@@LeftEagle51012 what were your top 3 favorite victorious songs?
Y’all are making this a bigger spectacle than it needs to be. Victoria Justice would have made it big if Victorious was a Disney show. Nickelodeon has 0 experience creating music superstars. The first mistake was the casting. Victorious was made to launch Victoria Justice to superstardom. She should have been the ONLY singer on the show. Casting competition on the same show is a mistake that the Disney Channel would have never made. Disney would NEVER have casted Ariana Grande or Liz Gillies alongside Miley Cyrus on Hannah Montana. It would never happen. But Nickelodeon, either due to inexperience or incompetence, decided to cast actors who could potentially overshadow the main star. The reason why it was so easy for Miley, Selena and Demi to breakthrough was because there was no one else to compare them to. The problem with Victorious was that Victoria had competition right next to her. There are many other factors as well but that’s the main one. It’s really simple actually. I feel bad for Victoria. She was originally a Disney darling. She should have stayed with Disney. Victoria is the only reason Nickelodeon stayed relevant for as long as it did. Otherwise, nick would have only had iCarly and SpongeBob. Also, I’ve heard that Disney tends to show favoritism towards their alumni. Since Disney has a monopoly over the entertainment industry, it makes sense that Disney actors go on to be more successful. Like Zendaya who got casted in another Disney project (Marvels Spider-Man) which launched her to Superstar Status.
@@jaylenadegoke that is a good point disney had the experience while nickelodeon was trying to replicate them, yes maybe if she stayed with Disney things wouldve played out differently for her but there also a chance not, look at olivia holt, coco jones & etc there music career didnt flourish like demi, selena, miley music career did and speaking of victorious i have wonder if maybe victoria didn't star on a show that was music related things would worked out better since no one would have gotten to witness that side of her yet until her music debut, of course this is just my guess and option
I think victorious the only show that felt like the main star didn’t have enough attention because everyone knew Ariana and liz had better voices and they sung more songs on the other hand Disney had plenty of movies and shows where there multiple people would be singing it was more organized for people to not overshadow the person whose the main star
Victoria Justice and Miranda Cosgrove should’ve been the biggest artists just like Popular artists of today
Yessss, I loved Miranda's debut album Sparks Fly. Full of fun bops ☺️
@@roisoyfer I feel bad for her I wish she still continued her music career I feel like she would’ve been the best singer songwriter of today bc Kissing You, About You Now and Dancing Crazy is sooo good
@@JoshuaGarza-m2z agreed, i loved miranda music kissin u, there will be tears, brand new you, adored, shakespeare, dancin crazy, sayonara, about you now, she made so many great songs
@@Playlist_Pop yesss Miranda has so many similar song writing like Taylor or Olivia with boyfriends or exes or something like that good song details.
@@JoshuaGarza-m2z I do not think she did good because she did not give in to creepy Dan's command! Do you see the coincidence? People who do not give in creepy Dans demands "are not successful".
The weird fall of Vic definitely has a thing. We don't know what happens behind the scenes but Victoria obviously was being targeted especially the cyberbullying she got and many cancelled projects for NO reasons. Weird that she can't speak about a thing!
@@Asim112 it is strange seeing what happened, she was treated unfairly for doing nothing wrong and the internet bullying got out of control, as for projects she was in being canceled like eye candy im not really sure why that happened, maybe they just didnt connected with people which dose happen in acting and in music, but if something did happened behind the scenes maybe she cant say anything bc she signed an nda
@@Playlist_Pop I don't really understand what is an NDA and why would she sign for?
@@Asim112 an nda is an agreement contract which usually actors sign even singers when working on a project or with a label in this case and by signing it you can't speak about certain details that happen behinde the scenes and if you do you will get sued and possibly blacklisted depending on who's in charge of that project or company of that label
Treat myself and raw are amazing tracks. Her voice fits the moody sound more for sure.
@@BrookePage1992 i agree, each release has been amazing
I remember the album being called Firefly. Although, a lot of the unreleased tracks that leaked sound like they're scrapped from Victorious soundtracks.
@@glitterprincessk3 yea i noticed that when listening to the songs, i think it was more the label doing since it was tied with nickelodeon, they obviously wanted her to stay in that image, even knowing she didn't want to record gold or want it as the frist single but they kept insisting it and seeing how she left because of creative differences they probably didn't let her have much say towards the end when putting the album together
I’ve never heard any but I wouldn’t be mad, victorious had some amazing songs
JUSTICE 4 VICTORIA
highly recommend listening to the new music she been releasing like raw, down and treat myself they are great songs
@@Playlist_Pop I am! Theyre so great
The way by Ariana Grande came out and also all eyes were on Beyoncè at the time so nobody was caring about Victoria Justice
I hope she drops her debut album soon
@@Trixisntforkids me too
The song Priceless and Perfect on that unreleased album are too good!!
yesss, especially priceless its a great summer bop
Although every one of her recent releases has been great, I miss hearing some of her older style of singing with a much darker, chestier, less breathy sound. Unfortunately I feel like the industry was shifting away from that sound when she came on the scene to a brighter, sugary, more youthful sound. The same shift happened at Disney following the Selena/Miley/Demi era with singers like China Anne McClain, Bridgit Mendler, and Coco Jones who had really strong voices but didn’t have that bright and high sound that was becoming the new industry standard.
I honestly think the reason why her music never took off was because it was the same ol' sound that we heard from the other teen stars from Disney/Nick (Miley, Selena, Demi, the Jonas Brothers, Miranda) at the time. Had she did more R&B sounding Pop ala old school Britney & Christina or Justin Bieber like, she would've had more success like her co-star Ariana Grande did.
that is a good point, but in victoria’s case, who wanted to try new things, her label didn’t want that, they wanted her to stay in that nickelodeon image, and since the label was tied with nickelodeon, that didn’t help either. ‘Gold’ wasn’t even a song she wanted to record, it was the label that kept pushing it and when you’re signed to a label, you sometimes have to compromise in order to have some say in your music which probably was getting difficult for her as the album was being created, which lead to it getting shelfed bc she probably didnt agree to what they wanted and what helped ariana was signing to a label away from nickelodeon, where the label probably gave ariana more of a say when she wanted to change "daydreamin’' to "yours truly"
I wonder what would have happened if Victoria stayed on Disney. Also, a youtube commenter said she was barred for six years from making music because of a non-compete clause when she left Columbia Records. Again, it was random guy commenting so I don't know how true it was. Also, did Nick do enough to promote their music? I don't think did otherwise maybe Freak the Freak Out and Beggin on your Knees would have been top 40 Hits though Freak the Freak Out did go gold. Also, I don't know they needed a music video for Beggin on Your Knees, just have the scene from the show.
seeing how disney had already experienced success in having their stars transition into music, it would have maybe helped in how victoria’s music career would have played out,i’m not sure about her being barred from making music for six years, as that guy commented, but it could be possible since the music industry is known for doing shady things, especially with contracts, its happened to artists like tinashe and jojo, and even zendaya has talked about bad contracts in the music industry, however from interviews it seemed she just wanted to focus on acting and have music on the side for the moment maybe bc of the bad experience she had being on a label
as for nick promotion, they actually did something similar to what disney would do by playing the music videos for ‘freak the freak out,’ ‘best friends brother,’ & etc, during commercial breaks but when it came to promoting them beyond the channel such as live tv performances, there weren’t many like maybe two, the view and the ellen show, she did more tv interviews than singing performances, which i agree if there was more promo for the songs they would have been bigger, i also think its the reason ‘beggin’ on your knees’ got a music video, because they were trying to get the song more attention to boost sales
@@Playlist_Pop Maybe it wasn't a surprise Liz didn't try for a music career. Yes, she release an album though with Seth Macfarlane though she might try for one now like her co-star.
@@clipobserver she got such a great voice i know she talked about it for years, i do hope one day she dose release an album
@@Playlist_Pop Also did consider using their corporate cousins MTV and VH1 with their music?
@@Playlist_Pop The reason I don't think beggin on your knees shouldn't have gotten a music video was because I thought the scene in the episode was good enough (my opinion).
there was another song that might be from firefly called "we make the weekend" that was leaked in 2020
@@hunter__84 i didnt know about that one, thanks ill have to give it a listen
We Make the Weekend was actually an unreleased song from Victorious. It wasn’t supposed to be on her album
Gold is an amazing unreleased song and personally it’s the best choice for her to release it as a single and it’s the best song she has ever wrote in history.
love her, wish her the best
No need to dwell on the past, because her new music is amazing. My favourite tracks are Raw, Last man standing and Treat myself. ❤
@@TheCandela15 agree, she been releasing really great music
Top 3 Fav:
1. Stay
2. Down
3. Last Man Standing
@@keirwalker6826 great favorites, she been releasing great songs besides down i also been liking raw
that's what happens when you talk about your album too much, describing it for 2 hours instead of just releasing
im so sad still... victoria :-( ugh..... I still want to album since even know songs still are leaking T_T
it's a shame the way things ended up with columbia, im just glad she was able to get out of that bad contract and release music independently with no problems since sometimes these contracts can be hard to break or get out of
@@Playlist_Pop I'm so glad to.... have you heard all the leaked songs? Not even gonna lie, this is my top 10 fave albums ever while not even being released
@@liam4590 i only heard a few but from what i heard my two favorites are priceless and love zombie, hbu which are your top 3 favorite?
@@Playlist_Pop ADD love is my FAV and favorite song, then caught up in you. I actually even upscaled ADD love since the instrumental went to FEMM for the song whiplash
I think the problem was that Gold was too Nickelodeon. Comparable to Ariana’s Put Your Hearts Up. But it also seems like Victoria makes music for fun or a hobby almost. Wouldn’t bet on ever getting an actual album.
well like she said in that interview she didnt want to record gold or have it as a single but the label (also tied to nickelodeon) kept insisting and it was really them wanting her to stay in that nickelodeon image, even though she was ready to move on to different things and usually with labels you have to compromise alot which probably was getting difficult for her as the album was coming together which lead to it getting shelfed bc she probably barley had any say on it towards the end, which is why she focused on acting, as she was able to grow with no issues. I think what helped ariana was signing to a label away from nickelodeon, where the label probably gave ariana more of a say when she wanted to change "daydreamin’' to "yours truly"
Not the Build a Bear collab. 🫠
omg i remember her two singles. They were both kinda cute
Tove Lo wrote Gold?
@@TheSkinnyZ yea, she co wrote it
I think gold was to sabotage her It doesn't make sense why they would choose that song considering how big she was at that time I wouldn't say i have 3 fav solo songs of hers but i do love treat myself better and last man standing
@@garyowens777 the music industry is a shady industry especially some of these labels, the thing with being signed sometimes you have to compromise alot in order to have some say and maybe she just agree with them to record the song (even though she didnt want too) hoping they let her have more say on her album which probably didnt ended up that way, same i also love treat myself
Is there any way for Victoria to officially release the songs from the firefly album? recently "love zombie" became popular on tiktok and I think she should re-record this album or just release
@@Andyy188 if she were to re-record the songs like taylor swift has done to get the rights back for her older albums or even bonnie mckee (co writer of teenage dream, hold it against me, part of me & more) her label back in 2013/14 shelf her 2nd album hot city, and athough she couldnt release bc of contracts/rights she found a way around it and re-recorded the songs and released the full album this year, i think it is possible but of course thats only if she wants to
TOUVE LOO. PERIOD!
Honestly Gold isn't a bad song. I kinda like it, but it does seem like a departure from the foot stomping solo tracks she did on victorious.
Overall they didnt promote Gold that much, and they slacked when it came to releasing the album.
@@jdofficial504 i have a guess the label told her if she compromised she would have more say on the album which is why she agreed to do gold even though it wasnt a song she really wanted, but as the album was coming together they kept getting involved and since it was linked to nickelodeon it probably was causing problems which led to setbacks for gold promo along her debut album getting shelved
I think Victoria Justice is really talented, but just like Elizabeth Gillies, she is really good at acting rather than singing. Singers like Ariana Grande, Miley Cyrus, Demi Lovato and Selena Gomez, though they’re all start as actors, they really re-invent their image for their singing career and try to stay away from child actor image they’re used to have. She should venture more in acting since she is one of a hella good actor imo.
What if she at the time started dating a rapper or NBA player and started doing collaboration with hip hop/pop artist??
I would say reissued firefly to the public.
that would be awesome, of course thats if she wants to do it
Victoria Justice was great as Tori on Victorious But If We're Being Honest Ariana Grande's Voice Stood Out The Most and Elizabeth The Girl That Payed Jade has an amazing voice as well, Victoria Just Doesn't Have that Star Factor to me......her voice has always been.....ok 🤷🏾♀️
I agree
Exactly and that was a mistake Dan made because why are the side characters outshining the main character 😂 pretty unorganized
I thought she said she didn’t experience the same as the other actors with the allegations
@@BLKNOIZEPODCASTANDMEDIA i dont think it was her that said that since from what I read in articles this response was the frist time she spoke about dan and her experience
I think we ALL SING
Give it a rest...🙄
@@TheCandela15 I think we ALL give it a rest
She didn’t lie tho
@@davieepiex she didn't
Ok but gold is good
13:16
Wait is that how u say Tove lo
@@its_a_Mad_World yes, i hope i pronounced her name correctly if not i apologize, here is the video where she explains how to prenounce her name ruclips.net/user/shortsQh1R91Ti3RE?si=6GhQibY5UxY8XiPv
7:05 TOVE LO!?!?!?!
@@James_Music22 yep, she co wrote gold there actually a demo of gold with her vocals on youtube
@@Playlist_Pop thanks for the info 🥰
I’ve been a fan of some of her songs and I’m still waiting for her demo of The Middle by Zedd lol 😅
Are you richlux
😂 good catch
I think she's not a pop star cause she doesn't have what it takes. Her voice isn't nice enough to appeal to enough people and her style isn't special. Her newer songs play around a lot with high notes that are softer and not in a mixed belt which doesn't sound good for her voice type. However, even her mixed belts don't sound pretty either. Her voice is just mediocre. There are singers like Selena Gomez who can't sing that well but their voices are nice.
Let's be honest here - Victoria may have the voice to be a pop star, but she doesn't have the charisma and personality to do so. Ariana, on the other hand, has a much more memorable voice, is far and away the better singer, and actually has the drive to see things through.
This is such a lie. She has loads of charisma and excellent stage presence. Idk why people like you always bring up Ariana as if they’re the only two singers in the world.
@@iosashes2087 and yet her several attempts at a pop career didn't do well. Call a spade a spade. She's an actress at best. End of discussion.
lol you cant rap 14:27
Caught Up in You was a vop
Because She didnt sold her soul to the devil like Ariana did and I also heard that Scooter Braun sabotage her carrer
y'all mad bc your fave flopped 😂 🤣🤣 stay mad 🫵
She's pretty but there is nothing spectacular about her, she's so basic and boring
She isn't ludder, that's why!
@@kenancatovic598 what's a ludder?
@@danielrubinstein896 in Danish it means cheap prostitute!