The Wreck of the Largest Ship Ever Seen by a Submarine Who Broke All Rules

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  • Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2023
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    The Pacific Ocean was dark and quiet that night. Only the sound of waves hitting the USS Archerfish broke the silence.
    Inside the submarine’s metal structure, Captain Joseph F. Enright stood at the periscope, eyes scanning the horizon. He was experienced and sure of himself, but his mind was filled with doubt, haunted by a past failure that nearly ended his career.
    This night was different, though, and Enright's focus remained fixed on the dark sea, driven by a need to make things right.
    And then he saw it: a faint shape in the distance, a large unknown enemy ship on the water.
    Just before midnight on November 28, 1944, the USS Archerfish roared to life, starting its chase about a hundred miles south of Tokyo Bay.
    The Captain sent an urgent message to Pearl Harbor, reading: [QUOTE]
    "I am pursuing a large aircraft carrier."
    Unknowingly, Archerfish had found the Shinano, the world's largest aircraft carrier, on a desperate nighttime run from Yokosuka to Japan's Inland Sea.

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  • @DarkDocsSeas
    @DarkDocsSeas  6 месяцев назад +16

    Play Enlisted for FREE on PC, Xbox Series X|S and PS®5: playen.link/darkseas. Follow the link to download the game and get your exclusive bonus now. See you in battle!

    • @FozzyZ28
      @FozzyZ28 6 месяцев назад

      It's about time you got off the US gravy train and told a story from the German/Italian/Japanese perspective..........please!!!!

    • @luckky6934
      @luckky6934 6 месяцев назад

      Enlisted won’t play on Xbox 1

    • @patricktruchon9153
      @patricktruchon9153 6 месяцев назад +2

      Screw video games. All you people who want to play should join the Marines and fight for real! War is not a game!

    • @aristotlewasnotafanofplato3661
      @aristotlewasnotafanofplato3661 5 месяцев назад

      When is Dark Seas going to cover the Israeli attack of the USS Liberty?

    • @RandomOzzieVids
      @RandomOzzieVids 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@patricktruchon9153🤣🤣🤣 that makes sense, fighting on behalf of politicians, who are too spineless to fight.
      Grow up child.

  • @dritzzdarkwood4727
    @dritzzdarkwood4727 6 месяцев назад +42

    He was not removed from command. He wrote, and asked himself to be relieved of duty. Later he wrote asking for active duty and was given a rare second chance.

  • @wrm3016
    @wrm3016 6 месяцев назад +21

    After reading Enright's book, it was more of a stroke of luck that Shinano changed course that enabled Archerfish to fire in the first place. But such is the luck of war in subs.

  • @ProfessorMAG
    @ProfessorMAG 6 месяцев назад +146

    Archerfish was carrying the improved torpedoes that corrected an errant design that plagued the early USN efforts of WWII.

    • @timbrwolf1121
      @timbrwolf1121 6 месяцев назад +19

      War might have been over a bit quicker if the torpedoes had worked from the get go. Our submariners were absolutely getting the upper hand tactically only to not get any kills aside from the occasional torpedo collision sinking

    • @thelton100
      @thelton100 6 месяцев назад +12

      The reason for this was they were trying to save money by not allowing live fire excercises of their torpedoes

    • @simon-oy6um
      @simon-oy6um 6 месяцев назад +1

      They got the torps working right at last 😮

    • @jimclark6256
      @jimclark6256 6 месяцев назад +10

      And the tornedoes' designers refused to believe their torpedoes could be defected..@@thelton100

    • @greendragon4058
      @greendragon4058 6 месяцев назад +3

      This is only one reason why they didn't believe that the Archer fish did what it did

  • @motor2of7
    @motor2of7 6 месяцев назад +22

    To hold a sub captain responsible for the crap torpedos at the beginning if the war is unconscionable

  • @michaelmccotter4293
    @michaelmccotter4293 6 месяцев назад +86

    From the start, Shinano was a poorly concieved design based on compromise.
    She was designed not as a battle carrier but a resupply carrier. Her mission was to resupply carriers with aircraft and pilots, etc.

    • @jamesricker3997
      @jamesricker3997 6 месяцев назад +15

      She was designed as a battleship and the conversion process was started late in her construction. So late that it made turning her into a fleet carrier impossible. The Japanese desperately needed any aircraft carrier they could get, so they improvised.

    • @recoil53
      @recoil53 6 месяцев назад +12

      Given the continual lack of worthwhile pilots in the back half of the war, it was still a useless conversion.

    • @larryclemens1850
      @larryclemens1850 5 месяцев назад

      Still, a valuable piece of equipment protected by a flotilla. Against such odds, the Archerfish showed bravery and discipline. That she got lucky that the Japanese craft, crew and captain weren't as prepared as they should have been, doesn't detract from the bravery of the sub crew pushing the attack against the force.

    • @robertthomas5906
      @robertthomas5906 5 месяцев назад +1

      Bad design even as a battleship. The Yamano was so vulnerable they had to remove anything flammable for fear it would become a torch in battle. Torpedoes would rip 'em apart. They had a great idea, poorly executed making them junk.

    • @dx1450
      @dx1450 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@recoil53 Which also made their idea of using Kamikazes even worse. They were killing any good pilots they had.

  • @ronaldgray5707
    @ronaldgray5707 6 месяцев назад +46

    Nice Video. A couple of facts were missed. Shinano was a aircraft ferry. It was designed to ferry aircraft to remote island bases. It was to slow and cumbersome to be a fleet carrier. The Japanese learned that lesson with the Kaga. A Tosa class battleship that was converted to a carrier. It could only do 28 knots and had one of the higher turn rates of all the Japanese carriers. It had a very hard time forming up a strike group. The Japanese found that battleship conversions make very poor carriers, battlecrusiers were not ideal but their speed of 30+ knots made up for a lot. Lexington, Saratoga, Akagi all had large turn radi but their speed allowed the to form up larger air groups. A keel up carrier was the best. Another thing was the Yamato class was a fuel hog. Had Shinano made it, it was doubtful if it would have ever sortied. The Japanese were very good a keeping naval secrets, during the war the Yamato was thought to be armed only with a 16 inch gun, it was not till after the war that the Americans learned that it actually had 18.1 inch guns.

    • @bkjeong4302
      @bkjeong4302 6 месяцев назад +13

      Small correction: the Japanese never wanted to turn Kaga into a carrier (she was going to be scrapped). What happened was that Akagi’s sister ship Amagi, which was slated for carrier conversion, was too badly damaged during the Great Kanto Earthquake to be completed; as a result the Japanese were forced to use Kaga as a substitute.

    • @christopherwebb3627
      @christopherwebb3627 5 месяцев назад +2

      It wouldn't sound as dramatic, would it ?

    • @bobbycv64
      @bobbycv64 4 месяца назад +4

      @ronaldgray5707 Thank you so much for the additional information Ronald Gray. I knew about fleet and light carriers not about a ferry carrier which makes sense. Shinano was huge and super carrier by today's standards, CV59 + are considered supercarriers and Shinano was close to that displacement.

    • @fearthehoneybadger
      @fearthehoneybadger 3 месяца назад +2

      Shinano's speed was a result of only some of its engines being in working order.
      Also, DS said all 6 torpedoes hit: 4 hit-2 missed.

    • @bkjeong4302
      @bkjeong4302 3 месяца назад +1

      @@fearthehoneybadger the part about only some of her engines working is true (due to her being incomplete), but even as designed she’d have only made 28 knots (which was the speed of the Yamato-class in general: it’s actually pretty quick for battleships, being on par with the North Carolina-class and South Dakota-class of fast battleships, but it’s ridiculously slow for an aircraft carrier).

  • @greendragon4058
    @greendragon4058 6 месяцев назад +108

    I absolutely love this story. My daughter who is in 4th grade at the time wrote a story cuz she had to write a history to write about how would you believe she got an F teachers didn't believe her. When she came home with the f I was Furious I went up to the school and I said why did my daughter get an F they told me that this story was fictitious and I said no it is not . And I handed her the book and the teacher said oh I'm sorry best day in my daughter's life wow oh my God that was funny my daughter and I we just had so much fun going out to the car

    • @rapodejko
      @rapodejko 6 месяцев назад +20

      Just shows how lazy and arrogant (how could a child know something they don't) that teacher is. it would've taken for her all but 30 seconds to use her phone to look it up. But between arrogance and laziness it was just easier to give an F

    • @greendragon4058
      @greendragon4058 6 месяцев назад +7

      @@rapodejko yep I kind of feel bad for kids getting out of school I know my oldest one brought home a paper and what's the what's the plural of topaz and my daughter said topaz the teacher how to look that one up I mean really? I was a single mom when my kids were small and we used to play games I integrated like okay I would find a word in the dictionary you guys have three chances to get what this guy what this word is you know and I would give him one hint free and you know stuff like that that way we could hang out together and they would learn at the same time skip 30 seconds on the teacher's part would have saved all kinds of headache what kind of scares me for the kids coming out of school now they don't even know how to cursive but me I'm an aggressive mom but they're all very independent they have all been through college they got their masters degrees

    • @TheRichtoo
      @TheRichtoo 6 месяцев назад

      @@rapodejko😊

    • @curiousgeorge5992
      @curiousgeorge5992 6 месяцев назад

      Home school don't let your kids be indoctrinated by the wolf and sheep factories

    • @sjb3460
      @sjb3460 6 месяцев назад +8

      @@greendragon4058 My parents, grandparents, aunts, and uncles were absolute terrors when using bad English. In high school, we had to write several term papers, typed (no erasing allowed), and properly footnoted (ibid, loc cite). I read Michelle Obama's Masters Thesis. If I had turned that in for my work, I would have received an "F".
      I don't know if any of you have noticed that the use of the word "like" permeates the speech of most people. I cringe when I listen to so many TV and radio hosts using "like" about 5 times every paragraph. My wife had an in-home nurse as she recovered from some major surgery. This nurse, working on her masters, could not talk without using "like" in every other sentence.
      I started studying Latin 10 years ago, and I achieved a level of competence equal to a 2nd-year high school student. I learned how to diagram sentences in Latin, do crossword puzzles in Latin, and compose sentences in Latin. In the 8th grade, we learned to diagram sentences in English, and as we progressed through high school the level of difficulty increased. I took free online courses and bought used books on Amazon and at the used bookstore. There is no excuse for ignorance because the internet, smartphones, and computers have given us the ability to study anything and everything.
      There is no shame in being ignorant. Ignorance can be remedied when knowledge is accessed. Stupidity is different. Stupidity is willful ignorance and therefore cannot be cured.
      I realize that 60 years ago, it was easy to teach English grammar because everyone spoke English. Now, English grammar is just a wish and because so few people speak English as their primary language, diagramming sentences in English is no longer required.

  • @micahcastillo9113
    @micahcastillo9113 5 месяцев назад +8

    My Uncle was on USS Archerfish AGSS-311 during the first and second phase of Sea Scan. 1959-‘62

    • @Chris_at_Home
      @Chris_at_Home 5 месяцев назад

      My oldest brother served on the USS HardHead on the 1960s. It was one of the last Balao class submarines in service in the US Navy. I had a tour of the Clamagore in 1973 when it was part of a joint operation with South American Navies. I was in a P-3 detachment following the ships around and staying in hotels.

  • @Karagianis
    @Karagianis 5 месяцев назад +7

    Far more hype than Shinano deserves, it was big, yes, but deeply flawed. It only carried 47 aircraft, only little more than half the capacity Kaga had carried whilst being less than half the displacement. It was in no way a super carrier, it probably wasn't even worth completing it given how worthless it was as a carrier.

    • @jimbracknell5648
      @jimbracknell5648 3 месяца назад

      Not to mention that by that time Japan lacked the experienced aircrews that could operate off a carrier

  • @modeler308
    @modeler308 6 месяцев назад +10

    WHY was a photo of USS Enterprise CVN-65 included? That ship was not even built or launched until 1961.

    • @cwj9202
      @cwj9202 6 месяцев назад +1

      Good point. Back when that photo was taken, it was CVAN-65.

  • @wildcolonialman
    @wildcolonialman 6 месяцев назад +1

    Fabulous. Thank you.

  • @steveclarke6257
    @steveclarke6257 6 месяцев назад +8

    Your analysis that Shinano is a "super fleet carrier" is incorrect, she was designed as a "support carrier" with a major repair shop for damaged aircraft, but also with a small defensive air wing of her own. She was never designed to directly enter battle and had very little in the way of ordinance stores capacity to support such offensive action.
    So yes the story of her sinking is correct but the analysis of the vessels capabilities is wildly out in its accuracy.

  • @aaroncanniford9237
    @aaroncanniford9237 6 месяцев назад

    Brilliant thanks mate

  • @subdawg1331
    @subdawg1331 6 месяцев назад

    great video exciting thank you

  • @7thsealord888
    @7thsealord888 5 месяцев назад +15

    Enwright later co-authored a book that was semi-autobiographical, centred on Archer Fish's sinking of Shinano (and, yes, that is how the crew of the sub wrote its name - Archer Fish). The book's title is 'SHINANO- The Sinking Of Japan's Secret Supership'.
    His first war cruises as a sub commander were unsuccessful and, to Enwright's credit, he blamed his own decisions rather than his sub or crew for this. It is fair to say that sheer bad luck and his innate caution were the only real issues. But Enwright requested transfer to noncombat duties, despite his commander's willingness to let him stay. He served in important noncombat duties for a time, before eventually requesting a transfer back to combat duties, whereupon he was given Archer Fish.
    The Japanese believed an entire wolf pack of US subs were in the area. With that in mind, Shinano's commander became convinced that the lone US sub was some kind of decoy, meant to lure away his escorts. So he ordered the three escorting destroyers to stay close, and he was so obsessed with evading the (non-existent) wolf pack that Archer Fish was finally able to work into a reasonable firing position. No insane decisions involved, just persistence, a readiness to be unorthodox if necessary, and taking advantage of situations as they appeared.
    Four out of six of Archer Fish's torpedoes hit the carrier. For various reasons, Enwright had the torps set to run shallow, and this very fortuitously by-passed most of Shinano's torpedo protection. When they hit, Shinano maintained high speed, to evade the 'wolf pack', and this increased the water pouring in. That detail, plus not being properly seaworthy and having a green crew, is what doomed Shinano.
    Regarding the early cruiser / carrier confusion by the USN. The IJN typically named their cruisers after rivers, and their battleships after provinces, and "Shinano" was actually both of those things. So when they intercepted radio signals about the Shinano being sunk, it took a while to catch on to what had happened. Fortunately, one of Enwright's crew had carefully saved the drawings made of the carrier, and this proved to be important evidence.
    It is worth noting that in a later cruise, Archer Fish sank a Japanese sub. Noteworthy is that this submarine was actually operated by the Imperial Japanese ARMY, a carefully-kept secret from their hated Navy rivals.

  • @daispy101
    @daispy101 6 месяцев назад +7

    Good thing the Mk14 torpedo had FINALLY been fixed by then!

  • @kachmi
    @kachmi 3 месяца назад +1

    Amazing stories of technological advancement and heroism as always.

  • @bigredgreg1
    @bigredgreg1 6 месяцев назад +8

    The first submarine depicted is not the Archerfish, or if it is, that full sail came long after WWII.

    • @texdawg8980
      @texdawg8980 6 месяцев назад +1

      it is at least a close relative of the USS Nautilus.

    • @markhayes100
      @markhayes100 5 месяцев назад

      95% sure the submarine at the beginning is USS Triton, nuclear powered and in the 1950's by far the largest US submarine. @@texdawg8980

  • @thelton100
    @thelton100 6 месяцев назад +9

    Don’t forget that her water tight doors weren’t installed prior to sailing

  • @sandpiper888
    @sandpiper888 3 месяца назад

    I went in USS Archer Fish when she visited Auckland on a goodwill cruise in or around 1966. What a brilliant success.

  • @dritzzdarkwood4727
    @dritzzdarkwood4727 6 месяцев назад +21

    "Archerfish fired six torpedos at the carrier"
    "At least six of Enright's torpedoes hit Shinano"
    - so more torpedoes than he fired hit the ship?
    In reality four out of six torpedoes hit the carrier.
    "Soon, the Captain gave the order to abandon ship"
    - No he didn't. Captain Abe could not bring himself to utter the words so he said, "You're are released from duty. Save yourselves!"

    • @Normandy1944
      @Normandy1944 6 месяцев назад +5

      This is exactly why I don't watch a lot of video from Dark Seas. The content is misleading and not totally accurate (as you point out)...as well in this video, using a shot of an LCT in dry dock and the Ben Franklin burning to portray a IJN carrier. That is some lazy editing.

    • @martinadams7949
      @martinadams7949 6 месяцев назад +10

      My dad was on the archerfish, he said there was more, in what I remember in the rear torpedo room a fish was fired without a command from the captain. Didn't go through fire control, so it didn't get counted. Dad's copy of the unit citation hangs on our wall.

    • @jimrobinson684
      @jimrobinson684 6 месяцев назад +2

      I know I heard that and had to play it back again like wth🤣

    • @parrot849
      @parrot849 5 месяцев назад +2

      I’ve never viewed a Dark Seas or Dark (fill in the blank) channel video that wasn’t loaded with errors and mistakes. Makes ya wonder how can a content creator consistently do such lousy research so often?

  • @bkjeong4302
    @bkjeong4302 6 месяцев назад +8

    It should be noted that work on Shinano was suspended shortly after PH, months before the decision to convert her into a carrier was made.

    • @jyvben1520
      @jyvben1520 3 месяца назад

      Pearl Harbor or after Midway were the Japanese lost a few carriers

  • @Renshen1957
    @Renshen1957 6 месяцев назад +1

    The Shinano’s intended mission was as an Aircraft Carrier Auxiliary-Tender to supply replacements, with machine and other shops for repairs, stores for aircraft parts repairs, stores for machinery, etc. to service the remaining Fleet IJN Fleet Carriers. The weren’t enough IJN pilots in November 1944, the month after the Battle of Cape Enganio, one less Fleet Carrier and three Less Light Carriers used as bait to lure the USN Forces of Leyte as it was. The Shinano carried Ohka (Baka) Bombs, and Shinyo suicide boats. An incomplete ship moved after being spotted by a reconnaissance plane. The unfinished vessel moving without ASW Destroyers (the three available were back from the Battle of Leyte Gulf and required three days repairs to make way, in an series of events leading for disaster.
    The Skipper of the Archerfish on his previous command missed an opportunity to target a Japanese carrier (with the gosh awful poor design US Mark 14 Torpedoes probably wouldn’t have detonated) put himself on report.
    For all those TOS Star Trek fans in one of two episodes of Silent Service he starred is seen with The Archerfish shoots straight, DeForest Kelly in the Captain’s role and is on RUclips.
    From one interview, De Kelley said he was offered choice of the three lead roles by Gene Roddenberry (Kelley had much more credentials including A Film co-starting in Gun Fight at the Okay Corral as one of the Earp Brothers) with Burt Lancaster.
    The whole shoot out was over Gun Control, the Cowboys (the synonym for rustlers-outlaws, as no self respecting cattlemen called themselves Ranchers) wouldn’t follow the local Gun ordinance of turning in their weapons with either the Hotel or Sheriff’s office. Tombstone was no different than Abilene or elsewhere in the Western Frontier, but films are less dramatic without “artistic license” bending the truth.

  • @carlosmoyna62
    @carlosmoyna62 6 месяцев назад +5

    What the hell is the Sugar Loaf and a nuclear AC doing in this video? 8:09

  • @drmarkintexas-400
    @drmarkintexas-400 6 месяцев назад +4

    Thank you for sharing
    🇺🇲🎖️⭐🙏🏆

  • @stevengibson3641
    @stevengibson3641 6 месяцев назад

    So epic!

  • @user-zj5kd8hk7d
    @user-zj5kd8hk7d 6 месяцев назад +13

    いろいろあったし、いろいろと時間がなく、いろいろ残念な点が多い信濃ですが、ルックスは大和型三番艦だけあって最強の風格です。
    もうどうにもならない海軍の末期を象徴してしまいましたね。

  • @timgosling6189
    @timgosling6189 5 месяцев назад +4

    Some great video of US WW2 carriers, particularly Wasp (?), some carriers with very post-war angled decks and some carrying US aircraft, a US Landing Craft Tank, one american nuclear boat, and a couple of pictures of Shinano.
    Shinano's conversion wasn't to make up for losses of other carriers. The decision was taken before those losses had occurred. Rather, in light of the emerging vulnerability of battleships to air attack and the expected completion date being still 4 years away it was decided that to build her as a carrier would be both quicker and more militarily useful.
    I'm sure others will have commmented that her role was not as fleet carrier but as a logistics ship to transport replacement aircraft and materiel to the fleet.
    Although captain of the boat, Enright was actually a commander at this time. He regarded his failure to sink Shokaku a year before as a personal one as it was, contrary to your script, nothing to do with the usual issue of the unpredictable Mk14 torpedos as he never got into a firing position. Rather it was down to poor tactics in the approach. Also, he was not 'removed from command' but requested this himself, hence Adm Lockwood's approval of his promotion to full cdr and of his request to be returned to a sea command.
    Archerfish only had 6 torpedos to fire from the forward tubes; Enright fired all of them so your phrase 'at least six hit' is bizarre.
    According to your video clips Archerfish appears to have hit the USS Wasp.
    The scepticism of the Naval Intelligence branch is understandable as they did not know of Shinano and had all other IJN carriers accounted for.
    Good story, strange choice of video clips, some strange and avoidable errors.

    • @tommcadam9897
      @tommcadam9897 5 месяцев назад

      Yeah, I was pretty sure the nuclear boat at 10:25 was not a time traveler. Thanks for confirming that.

  • @JohnDoe-tx8lq
    @JohnDoe-tx8lq 6 месяцев назад +10

    I would have thought it would be 'relatively' easy to have a quick release attachment to the periscope viewer - were the captain looks at (not the top!) - with a simple camera. Plenty of time when tracking a ship, which could be hours, to record what ships he's seeing.

    • @jamesricker3997
      @jamesricker3997 6 месяцев назад +5

      1940s technology had its limitations

    • @JohnDoe-tx8lq
      @JohnDoe-tx8lq 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@jamesricker3997 ??? they had periscopes to look through and they had cameras...

    • @larryclemens1850
      @larryclemens1850 5 месяцев назад

      It might have to do with the shelf life of exposed film in the 1940's. Just a guess. But on the surface, it seems so obvious that a detachable camera would be the obvious solution that there has to be a valid technical reason it didn't happen.

  • @vincedibona4687
    @vincedibona4687 6 месяцев назад +2

    Nice.

  • @hotironaircraftshop
    @hotironaircraftshop 6 месяцев назад +6

    28,000 tons, on a hull designed for 60,000+ tons. Really?

    • @JH-wd6dp
      @JH-wd6dp 6 месяцев назад +2

      Perhaps I am mistaken, but the 28,000 ton may be specifically referring to the citation given before the later revelation of what they actually sank. It sounds like there was resistance to giving full credit, and maybe mentioning whether the citation was amended later was an oversight.

  • @Glenn-em3hv
    @Glenn-em3hv 6 месяцев назад +3

    You know what is crazy is the so called emperor they called son of heaven wore glasses!!!
    Wouldn't you think that the Japanese people would know he wasn't any god and just a flawed man???

  • @douglassauvageau7262
    @douglassauvageau7262 5 месяцев назад +1

    Enright personifies the term 'STALWART'.

  • @shawnbeckmann1847
    @shawnbeckmann1847 6 месяцев назад +6

    Why do you keep calling it a small submarine all United States submarines were approximately 311 feet long Gato, Balao, and Tench class.

    • @webbtrekker534
      @webbtrekker534 6 месяцев назад +1

      He's civilian who thinks he's a naval historian. And, yes about 311 feet. Depended on the yard doing the building as to what the final length turned out to be.

  • @castrojank5653
    @castrojank5653 3 месяца назад

    Shimano was a engineering Marvel of the Japanese Navy. It had it all but due to the cause of losing the war Shimano was discharged though not fully completed it went for a trail run and that's when it's loss occurred. Good presentation. 😅😅

  • @FIKOE
    @FIKOE 7 дней назад +1

    08:10 The footage shows an aircraft carrier entering the Guanabara Bay in Rio de Janeiro City, with a clear view of the Sugar Loaf mountain close behind the ship and the Corcovado Montain further back! Of course it can't be Shinano in this part of the world.

    • @celomonte
      @celomonte 6 дней назад

      Suuuuuuper zoom lenses!!!!

  • @the1magageneral323
    @the1magageneral323 6 месяцев назад +3

    If you ever saw that old tv show Run silent, run deep, they had an episode on this sub.

    • @davidroby7290
      @davidroby7290 6 месяцев назад +1

      The Silent Service. Deforest Kelly played Enright

    • @the1magageneral323
      @the1magageneral323 6 месяцев назад

      @@davidroby7290 That's it.

  • @anthonybenash3457
    @anthonybenash3457 5 месяцев назад +2

    You should look into when the SS-305 Skate attacked the Yamato.

  • @manofchaitea6904
    @manofchaitea6904 5 месяцев назад +1

    Japan -Shinano, so compartmentalized its nearly unsinkable !
    Archerfish Crew- Challenge accepted !
    On another note, rest in peace to the crew of the Shinano. Humans urge to kill each other is truly our downfall as a species.

  • @michaelmccotter4293
    @michaelmccotter4293 6 месяцев назад +5

    Shinano was 68000 tons.

  • @GH-oi2jf
    @GH-oi2jf 5 месяцев назад +1

    Not “insane.” It was “daring” or “valiant.” “Insane” is frequently misused these days, as a standin for many more fitting adjectives.

  • @bigbirddottv
    @bigbirddottv 6 месяцев назад +1

    I've spent hours speaking to the sonor officer when i was as kid.

  • @vanceb1
    @vanceb1 5 месяцев назад +2

    It just amazes me how they attacked from such a short distance. At sea, 1400 yards is nothing.

  • @dandeyo2617
    @dandeyo2617 4 месяца назад

    The Shinano was not designed as a fleet aircraft carrier. She was designed to ferry naval aircraft to other aircraft carriers to replenish losses. This was a similar tactic that the British used in the Pacific Ocean at the end of the war.

  • @dailyqwikbytes
    @dailyqwikbytes 3 месяца назад

    What was "insane" about it? Enright handled and fought USS ARCHERFISH superbly and handled the entire encounter superbly. Even before that he showed his metal when he surrendered command of USS DACE when he thought he didn't have the right stuff. He was wrong about that, obviously.

  • @desubtilizer
    @desubtilizer 4 месяца назад

    The Shinano was a half sister ship of the Yamato and the Musashi but it was far too heavy and slow as an aircraft carrier so was more of a resupply ship for aircraft and munitions. The torpedoes probably hit the ship in its thinner armour used to build the remaininder of the ship as an aircraft carrier.

  • @williamdodge5123
    @williamdodge5123 6 месяцев назад

    USS DIXON AS-37 81 Diego Garcia, Tending Submarines and Surface warcrafraft during the Iranian hostage issue.

  • @mikep490
    @mikep490 2 месяца назад

    I was always amazed that a single sub, hitting with 4 torpedos, could take down a Yamato class and the admiralty would NEVER believe such a tale if they knew the ship was of that class. After all, it took 19 torpedo hits and 17 bombs to take down her sister ship. IIRC it was 2 torpedos hitting the same weak spot between armor belts, avgas leaking into the torpedo belt and exploding, over confidence and poor training of the crew, lax (overconfidence) of the captain, and poor construction (mostly in the failed water tight doors) that combined to make it a loss. It's truly one of the oddest stories in naval history.

    • @politicsuncensored5617
      @politicsuncensored5617 2 месяца назад

      The Shinano had not been completed. Many of her compartments were wide open and she only had a skeleton crew because she was still under construction. 𝗦𝗵𝗮𝗹𝗼𝗺

    • @mikep490
      @mikep490 2 месяца назад

      @@politicsuncensored5617 When the compartments started flooding, crew members felt air rushing past the closed doors, followed by water rushing past, per reports. I understand they hadn't had time to test if the water tight doors were tight.

  • @christianbuczko1481
    @christianbuczko1481 6 месяцев назад +1

    The ship may be impressive, but they didnt have any aircraft to make use of its potential. It was a total waste of resources and time.

  • @timvilleneuve7244
    @timvilleneuve7244 5 месяцев назад

    It's the "Final Countdown"!

  • @mchume65
    @mchume65 5 месяцев назад +1

    The sub first shown in this video appears to be a 50's or 60's nuclear submarine. I think I saw the USS Enterprise CVN-65 at one point. Many of the vessels shown have nothing to do with the story. To be fair, most WW2 documentaries show incorrect machinery. Aircraft, ships, tanks, not only the wrong ones, but often on the wrong side.

  • @scottbrady6240
    @scottbrady6240 20 дней назад

    SHE GON BE WAITING A LOOOOOOONG TIME THEN

  • @neohhorkee454
    @neohhorkee454 6 месяцев назад

    Shinano:nani?!

  • @williamdodge5123
    @williamdodge5123 6 месяцев назад

    Got the best of both worlds. Subs & Birdfarms!
    Semper Fortis
    Semper Fidelis

  • @WorthTalking2
    @WorthTalking2 6 месяцев назад +2

    why so many(1,435) souls lost if approx an hour earlier the captain gave the order to abandon ship?

    • @martinadams7949
      @martinadams7949 6 месяцев назад +2

      My dad read the Japanese account, the shipyard workers uniforms looked simular to officer uniforms, making a confusing situation.

  • @situationalawarenes
    @situationalawarenes 6 месяцев назад +2

    There were no more pilots for the planes for the carrier. So it was useless.

  • @gregatkinson7276
    @gregatkinson7276 5 месяцев назад +1

    Good video but always a thumbs down for damned unsolicited ad interruption.

  • @just-dl
    @just-dl 5 месяцев назад +1

    I believe only four torpedoes struck the carrier.

  • @mod91Kauai
    @mod91Kauai 6 месяцев назад

    Best channel on RUclips.

  • @robertwittjr1198
    @robertwittjr1198 6 месяцев назад +3

    11:15 and then, the kriegsmarine joined the party...

  • @skyden24195
    @skyden24195 5 месяцев назад

    3:10 -"This conversion was both a 'titanic' undertaking..."
    - 'Titanic' undertaking? Let's see, "largest of its time," "below deck/equipped with state-of-the-art technology including extensive compartmentalization to enhance her survivability. An (almost) unsinkable ship."
    -Sunk on her maiden voyage by unforeseen forces. Yeup, 'Titanic' undertaking.

  • @danielcorcoran7132
    @danielcorcoran7132 4 месяца назад +1

    72000 ton carrier, right?

  • @11bravocrunchie22
    @11bravocrunchie22 5 месяцев назад +1

    8:09 Did you seriously include a black and white picture of CVN-65 in a documentary of the IJN Shinano?

    • @cwulfe1
      @cwulfe1 5 месяцев назад +1

      Maybe it also went back in time the same as the Nimitz? 😆

  • @jimkeats891
    @jimkeats891 6 месяцев назад

    Did the USS Dace "miss"" the Shikako...or did the Mark 14 strike again? There's no date provided.

  • @jimmysweat2200
    @jimmysweat2200 6 месяцев назад +3

    The Shimano sister ship to Yamato and musashi battleship 90,000 tons
    100 aircraft

  • @michaelellis3091
    @michaelellis3091 3 месяца назад

    Did you say this sub decided to attack this carrier in 1924? I think that may have been difficult!

  • @7thrx
    @7thrx 5 месяцев назад +1

    I keep thinking you're saying utrefisch

  • @dx1450
    @dx1450 5 месяцев назад

    Imagine sinking a huge aircraft carrier but not knowing exactly what it was until after the war...

  • @harryshriver6223
    @harryshriver6223 5 месяцев назад

    Wow, what a feather in your cap for singing the largest carrier ever in World War II. I am certain every member of the crew is proud of their accomplishments but do not revel in the fact over a thousand sailors that went down with the ship.

  • @Del_S
    @Del_S 6 месяцев назад +1

    *By* accident. This isn't Barney the Dinosaur.

  • @Brian-bp5pe
    @Brian-bp5pe 5 месяцев назад +3

    "Titanic undertaking" pretty much summarizes this story.

  • @richardhaddock5660
    @richardhaddock5660 7 дней назад

    Why is there a picture of Enterprise CVN 65 in this video?

  • @danquigg8311
    @danquigg8311 4 месяца назад

    You could at the very least show a WWII era US submarine in the opening moments of this video! I'm not sure what sub was in this clip, but it was NOT a Balao class boat.

  • @cgbdfb52
    @cgbdfb52 3 месяца назад

    Only 4 of the torpedoes hit the Shinano, not all six.

  • @jeffreyleonard7210
    @jeffreyleonard7210 4 месяца назад

    "Gut feeling" led to sending the torpedoes higher than protocol.
    How was this helpful in this case?

  • @stevemundy4511
    @stevemundy4511 6 месяцев назад +2

    *BY accident...

  • @henriyoung3895
    @henriyoung3895 5 месяцев назад +1

    You are loosing me. Why show German Submarine captains and crew in an American sub story.
    WHY show a modern Submarine from 1970 in a WW2 video. TOTAL THUMBS DOWN

  • @franksmall1313
    @franksmall1313 4 месяца назад

    Early in the war the torpedoes failed to go off when they hit. Higher Up's push the wrong onto the sub's calling them useless. A coverup went on for some time and men plus sub's died because the higher up's had a hand in making the torpedoe's bluepaints.

  • @morganhalfyard6266
    @morganhalfyard6266 Месяц назад

    6 torpedoes were fired but only 4 hit

  • @johndyson4109
    @johndyson4109 6 месяцев назад

    The Americans have pretty much always have had the best Subs...

  • @SvenTviking
    @SvenTviking 6 месяцев назад

    HMS Seraph?

  • @paul85039
    @paul85039 6 месяцев назад

    I just wonder how many planes went down with her ? Does anyone know,???

  • @williamdodge5123
    @williamdodge5123 6 месяцев назад

    USS FORRESTAL CV-59 82 Mediterranean/Indian 82

  • @goodstufffromdavidpaul2246
    @goodstufffromdavidpaul2246 5 месяцев назад

    There are several points where the film is clearly NOT showing the USS Archerfish...
    eg. 10:27 plus...multiple models of periscopes. You've done better.

  • @Landy1jade1
    @Landy1jade1 5 месяцев назад

    Here for the “ My _______ served in the USS Archerfish 🧢” Comments

  • @BELCAN57
    @BELCAN57 3 месяца назад

    Shinano out of luck !

  • @scottbrady6240
    @scottbrady6240 20 дней назад

    I JUST REALIZED I LOVE MY XBOX 😂😂😂

  • @troystallard6895
    @troystallard6895 5 месяцев назад

    As a former US Navy sailor, I assure you it's pronounced Ya'kuska, not yo-ko-suka, in spite of the spelling. 🙂

  • @OregonChuck
    @OregonChuck 5 месяцев назад +1

    The story is good and well known. However, the inclusion of so many unrelated film clips, even U-boat clips, ruins it for me. I don't think I'll bother with Dark Seas again.

  • @flickingbollocks5542
    @flickingbollocks5542 6 месяцев назад +8

    By all means promote your sponsor's game,
    But DON'T EVER SAY IT IS ON PAR WITH WHAT GOES ON IN REAL WAR.
    You don't feel like "you are really there"
    Knob.

    • @malakaman9468
      @malakaman9468 6 месяцев назад +1

      touched a nerve, gramps?

  • @stevengrotte2987
    @stevengrotte2987 6 месяцев назад

    THE JAPANESE CARRIER HAD RADAR?
    NOT FROM WHAT I HAVE READ ABOUT THE JAPANESE NAVY IN WW 2!

  • @10021walshke
    @10021walshke 4 месяца назад

    "Mainland Tokyo"??

  • @DMS-pq8
    @DMS-pq8 6 месяцев назад

    One of ten Japanese carriers sunk by American subs

  • @billmarsano3404
    @billmarsano3404 5 месяцев назад

    It was not an 'insane decision'--USN subs sank 1/3 of the ships the IJN lost, with many of the attacks just as daring as Enright's. Shinano was a wasted effort. Not a fighting ship but an aircraft carrier tender or supply ship, and by the time of her launching Japan had lost almost of all her pilots (Marianas Turkey Shoot) and almost all of her few remaining carriers (Leyte Gulf, where they were used as mere decoys for Halsey's 3rd Fleet). She might have supplied planed to Iwo, Okinawa and Formosa, but for all her size, she couldn't have carried enough to make a real difference. I realize that there's no footage--ll of the attack took place in the dark--but this episode contains one of the more lugubrious mishmashes of footage, including as it does postwar submarines and drydocked LSTs.

  • @peterdebrie
    @peterdebrie 6 месяцев назад +3

    Sloppy documentary with German submarine crew?

  • @h-e-acc
    @h-e-acc 6 месяцев назад

    the imperial navy 🫡

  • @markmuldoon805
    @markmuldoon805 5 месяцев назад

    Good thing it went to sea with torpedoes that actually exploded, and could reach a target .... And there was a nuclear submarine as well. As support perhaps?
    Of course, after you ran out of real video you could have filled the video with schematics and information rather than stock video of other carriers.

  • @auro1986
    @auro1986 6 месяцев назад +2

    how can largest aircraft carrier be secret?

    • @froot6086
      @froot6086 6 месяцев назад

      because they built it in complete silence and secrecy. Hence why the US navy didnt even believe the archerfish sunk a carrier because the US navy thought they knew every location of the remaining jap carriers (which were like non existent at this point of the war)

    • @vic5015
      @vic5015 6 месяцев назад +1

      Back then recon was a *lot* harder.

    • @kennhi2008
      @kennhi2008 6 месяцев назад +2

      Because of the way the Japanese went overboard to hide the ship while it was under construction, huge nets were strung up all over the drydock and slipway where she was built, all workers sworn to secretcy under the threat of death ☠️. We had almost no idea what this ship was until after the war and read Japanese naval records. Plus only 2 actual pictures exist of this ship, one was taken from a B-29 which overflew the shipyard and that's why they were moving her when she was sunk

    • @tomhenry897
      @tomhenry897 6 месяцев назад

      We didn’t know about it

  • @cowdaddy4595
    @cowdaddy4595 3 месяца назад

    I have copied the narrator's style of speech, which I use all the time and my life has improved as a result.