NASA's $11 Billion Mars Dilemma | This Week In Spaceflight
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- Опубликовано: 4 июн 2024
- Join Elysia Segal on this special one-year anniversary edition of "This Week in Spaceflight" as we delve into the latest spaceflight news! Discover NASA's latest hurdles with the Mars Sample Return mission, witness Boeing's Starliner being stacked on an Atlas V rocket, and celebrate SpaceX achieving 20 flights with a single Falcon 9 booster. Plus, we'll explore the implications of space debris impacting a home and give you a sneak peek at upcoming launches, including more Starlink missions and international launches. Stay tuned and subscribe to catch all the cosmic developments!
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🖋️ Written by Alejandro Alcantarilla Romera (@alexphysics13) with Aaron McCrea and Evan Packer.
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00:00 Intro
00:29 ISS orbital debris hit a house in Florida
03:32 China's upcoming reusable rockets
06:00 NASA's troubles with Mars Sample Return Mission
09:46 Starliner integrated with Atlas V ahead of Crew Flight Test
11:34 All Ariane 6 testing now complete ahead of debut flight
12:25 Ingenuity's final goodbye... maybe
13:33 NASA confirms Dragonfly mission
14:28 Relativity makes progress at LC-16
15:33 SpaceX flies a Falcon booster for the 20th time
16:21 Chang Zheng 2D launches SuperView Neo 3-01
16:49 Falcon 9 launches Starlink Group 6-51
17:20 Falcon 9 launches Starlink Group 6-52
17:52 April 20th: Chang Zheng 2D launch
18:04 April 22nd: Falcon 9 launch of Starlink 6-53
18:12 April 23rd: Electron launch of Beginning of The Swarm
18:29 April 25th: China's next crewed spaceflight
18:49 April 25th: Russian spacewalk on the ISS
19:06 Outro 
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Congrats on your one-year anniversary of "This Week In Spaceflight" Elysia, Hope to see years more of TWISF, Thank you Elysia & NSF!!!
Congrats on 1 year of TWIS. It continues to be a great addition to the other NSF videos and live streams. Always look forward to Friday and getting information about all space related projects. Thank you Elysia and team NASASpaceflight.
Absolutely! I first discovered them during SN8 all the way back in December 2020, and I’ve stayed up to date since then. The work you all do is fantastic and I am so grateful I found you all!
Congratulations TWIS 🎉
The best space update of the week. Happy anniversary Elysia
Congratulations on your first year 🎉 Thanks for all your Space content .😊
Congratulations Elysia and NSF team, thanks for all the great information.
Congratulations team on both anniversaries😊 Well done and continued success
Congratulations and happy 1st birthday to Elysia and NSF.
Happy Anniversary NSF, Thanks for making my day today
Congrats Elysia and Team and thanks for the update.
Congratulations on your one year anniversary! I enjoy the news and updates. Great job everyone!!!
Hello Another good show. Happy Anniversary NSF
Congrats Elysia. I looked every episode. Well done!
Happy 1 year anniversary!
#ElysiaFanClub
Congrats on the anniversary! This is the most news like and reliable show on the subject. Thanks for giving a broad, unbiased report on the weeks events!
Happy birthday Elysia, Alex and everyone on the fantastic TWiS team 🎉
Way to Go NSF Team🤓! Happy Anniversary
This young lady is very good at her job. Thanks for the content and her amazing presentation.
Congratulations, and happy anniversary!
Happy Birthday Elysia (and Team) . Love the weekly updates
Happy anniversary
If SpaceX wasn't there I'm sure humanity wouldn't be going to Mars anytime in 21st Century. Thanks to those people who says we should first solve crises on earth only then space.
If SpaceX can get the performance to get Starship from LEO to Mars and back to LEO, then that’s the option I’d be betting on. Paired with the FLEX rover which is pretty much built for this sort of mission.
Excellent reporting!
Thank you.
You make me smile every time. Thank you.
I wonder why a simple standoff would be made of inconel. It is an extremely high temperature alloy and would seem a bad choice of material for something designed to burn up on re-entry. I would suggest it's a typical case over budget NASA spending that could have resulted in a bad outcome.
Congratulations on 1 year anniversary of "This Week in Spaceflight Elysia and the whole team 🚀 👏 👍🍻
Love the weekly report, Elysia does an amazing job!
I really enjoy these weekly recaps!
Happy Birthday! Love the Friday updates!!!
Congratulations on your anniversary!!
Congrats on the anniversary! And one million subs as well! Keep em coming!
Congratulations on your 1-year anniversary! Keep up the amazing work! 😎🚀🌓👏🎉
Congratulations twis anniversary
Happy anniversary 🎉🎉
congrats this week in space great show
Congratulations for the anniversary, I really like your show. Very concise and we'll explained🎉🎉🎉
Happy birthday, NSF TWISF!
Happy birthday! Love the Space Shuttle-lighter from the rocket nozzles!
The info graphics for the SuperView launch (at 16:39) lists “Falcon 9“ as the launch vehicle.
Whoops, missed that in the review! It's a Chang Zheng 2D.
Thank you, a great synopsis as always.
Happy aniversary🎉🎉 continue making videos when we go to mars and beyond ❤❤
Thank for 1 year of great information 🎉🎉🎉
Congratulations on 1 yr TWIS.
Let’s go! What a milestone, congrats B1062!
And the crowd roars: ELL-LEE-SEE-YUHHH!!!!!!
Elysia, you’re going to be a tough act to follow. Thank you for providing such useful content presented in a most digestible fashion.
Congrats and thank you 🎉
One year!!!!!!!!!!
congrat on one year!
you'd think they could send 30 ingenuity mars' helicopters with claws, a couple of communication base stations , all using 3 or 4 skycranes to land on mars via a falcon heavy for less than a billion. Then fly helicopters to retrieve samples with massive systems redundancy and all systems basically pretested.
Make a competition for the Mars Sample Return: 1st private company to bring samples (eg 10) gets 5 billion, 2nd gets 2.5 billion, 3rd gets 1 billion.
It would cost less and samples would be on Earth by at the very worst 2035
I’m not sure anyone would bother being third.
1:50 Inconel is an odd choice for an alloy when everything discarded is supposed to melt into droplets or even dust. Inconel melts at 1330-1430°C and -is- has been used for the combustion chamber and nozzel of rockets.
Happy First NSF!
Congrats on TWISF!
Congratulations on the 1-year milestone for This Week In Spaceflight.🎉
Congats on your anniversary. What kind of ear hanger did you wear? They are gourgous, but i would expected something more anniversary like? That is why i watch. 😊
Has it really been a year of "this week in spaceflight" .... time really does fly wen yer having fun !!!
I really can't comprehend why Boeing is still receiving public money.
Excellent presentation. It appears space engineering and technology is a great career option.
Mar sample return maybe in 2040? scrub this program and apply that the $ toward human landings. Oh, and btw congrats on one year anniversary-Elysia first female on the Moon/Mars :)
Yes, they have the potential ...
"When you push something to its potential, it will break." -- Anon.
Nice Shuttle candle! 🕯️
20 flights?!?! lets gooo!!! Ultra sonic scans have said those boosters can last as much as possibly 60 flights which is amazing but imagine if that was in the hundreds?! I cant wait for that! ALSO CONGRATULATIONS ON TWISF!
SpaceX Mars Sample return proposal: "We can land and have a astronaut pick them up for you?"
Yay, new video
Government agencies usually delay announcing changes to missions like Mars Sample Return due to an unwillingness to admit that the original architecture was unachievable. To be fair, Mars Sample Return is a formidable challenge with current capabilities.
If it's truly delayed out to 2040 astronauts will hopefully be just picking them up off the ground themselves
Thanks for another great episode.
Upgrades, and Licensing should've been added about SS. I don't understand how they issue a launch license for a year, then make an issue every time SS wants to take flight when NASA is depending on this so much. Again, thank for a great episode!
- NOM
well done on the 1m subs
Epic! 😎
Seriously, I hope NASA is briefing in ISRO on the whole Mars Sample Return conundrum... NASA itself has recently commented that ISRO is capable of conducting very complex missions, on time, and on very slim budgets.... they might be the perfect folks to bring in to help "rescue" the MSR mission.
05:13 If it flies to 10 000 m, it does not have fins for re-entry. It won't re-enter the atmoshpere, since it will not leave it at all.
It will test the grid fins that will be used for reentry, that better?
Superbb
Inconel X is extremely heat resistant and I am not surprised a chunk came back!
1:33 I noticed you said 2021 instead of 2024,
Happy anniversary!
2021 is correct
Nice
Wonder if the homeowners policy covers space debris.
Congratulations...
What about RocketLab for the MSR mission?, Photon has got some potential as a small, cheap and reliable spacecraft.
I enjoy watching this ISS from my backyard. Is there any? Way I can watch it Heather space station from my back yard. Is there an app
I'm just surprised it came from the ISS rather than all the plethora of other debris that's up there.
Also how do we know it's the only piece that reentered?
TBF Mars missions favour an old school development approach because most modern approaches rely on being able to rapidly iterate and learn as you go. How do you do that when you can only try it out once every 18 months and each attempt takes about 9 months. Where would SpaceX be if they could only launch a rocket every 18 months?
SpaceX does both. They definitely don’t use their “Move Fast and Break Things” approach when it comes to Crew Dragon. They are very structured and formal about everything.
I think they always knew they were just testing drill bits. We def need more mining robots on Mars, there's a lot of work to be done.
16:21 report appears to have China launching a Falcon 9 (see 16:40 details). Apart from that, once more, an excellent update from NSF.
Whoops, missed that in the review! It's a Chang Zheng 2D.
Just thought I'd say Hi 😊
4:00 those booster's legs look pretty similar too...
Yea! its that time again ;)
Although many analysts are skeptical that HLS will be fully ready by Sept 2026 to carry human passengers to the Moon's surface, we can be certain that SpaceX will do everything that is humanly possible to be ready.
Based upon the manufacturing capacity which SpaceX is deploying by Sept 2026 SpaceX will have flown between 50 and 100 Starships. Remember that Starship is absolutely critical to the deployment of Starlink V2. They never intended to fly Starlink V2 on Falcon 9 because of the mass limitations. The full Starlink V2s have four times the power. And once Starship is operational it actually costs less per launch than Falcon 9.
Further all of the pre-requisite testing will be complete, or almost complete. SpaceX will have landed an automated HLS on the Moon, and recovered it. SpaceX will have the refilling station operational because it cannot even fly that test without it. So here you are in October 2024 with dozens of Starship stacks in operation and a working refilling station in orbit. You are Elon Musk, and what are you going to do? Why wouldn't you expend one of your Starships by sending it on a one-way journey to Mars? After all with a far less tested launcher in 2019 he sent his Tesla Roadster to the Asteroid Belt. Even Musk admitted that there was a less than 50/50 chance that the Falcon Heavy would work.
A fully fueled Starship V3 can deliver more than 100 tonnes to low Mars Orbit (LMO). If I were a University Engineering department I would be right now asking my colleagues in Astronomy what they would like to send to Mars, considering that the price is going to be close to zero, because of the risks. What would you do if you could get a literal tonne of equipment deployed in LMO?
And if mass is not an issue, surely some competent team of aero-space engineers could figure out a way to recover the samples left behind on the surface. What if it doesn't have to fly all the way back to Earth, just back up to LMO to meet with the Starship in orbit. If it uses methalox propulsion, it can just siphon fuel out of the excess left on the Starship, and with that head start make it back to Earth.
Since it is probably premature to think of flying the Starship back to Earth, although somebody is certainly doing the calculations, perhaps the most productive use, once it has deployed all of the cargo destined to LMO, is to attempt to land on Mars. The odds of success are low, but what else are you going to do, since you can;t bring it back to Earth. And failure teaches lessons that the follow up missions will appreciate. If the landing actually succeeds and the robots can find ice it could fire up the Sabatier Reactor and start filling its empty tanks with methane and oxygen. It can't hurt. And if you are extraordinarily lucky after two years on the surface the multi-ship 2028 expedition will arrive, and you can help them refuel!
Ohssshhh, the minute u said Starliner I almost choked😂
Ever heard of the Deficit ?
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Did anyone really think the sample return concept was going to happen, back when they were laying sample tubes? It seemed like an incredible waste of the rover.
Sample return in 2040? Why bother, will already have on-site habitable science station to do work there from Starship...
Good point; why not just have the lab embedded in the Starship? No astro scientists required.
2030-2035 is when mission delta v budgets are at their minimum in the 15 year synodic cycle. That's when they really should be sending a manned mission, successive short trips will get significantly more expensive until the next minimum in 2045.
If SpaceX wasn't there I'm sure humanity wouldn't be going to Mars anytime in 21st Century. Thanks to those people who says we should first solve crises on earth only then space.
Send people there. Mars Direct style. Instead of bringing back a few dozen grams, we bring back hundreds of kilograms. Priceless science will be done there. Marsonauts will be able to travel hundreds, if not thousands of kilometers away from base. 4 people, 3 Starship launches at most. That's the closest you can get to finding out whether there was ever life there. Will inspire generations of future scientists and engineers.
LI on the ISS; what the risk assessment for this?
After all, smart phones, laptops and electric cars tend to explode in flames quite happily.
Elon is right it can be do in 5 years or less if the Government stops delaying the development of StarShip. StarShip can have it first test landing mission on Mars by the end of 2027 or start 2028, In space Refueling StarShip from Tanker by the end on 2025 or start 2026. if the government, NASA and the US Military push StarShip on fast track like Apollo. As soon as Space X completes reentry and land of StarShip thing will move fast.
Would be absolutely stupid to cancel mars sample return. It wouls negate the purpose of an entire existing rover mission and years of work