Top 5 WORST CK3 EMPIRES!

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  • @nmanything
    @nmanything 9 месяцев назад +213

    the worse it is,the better it feels,ong ong

    • @roninwbijtube
      @roninwbijtube 9 месяцев назад +5

      💀💀💀

    • @masterofallthelakesintown2472
      @masterofallthelakesintown2472 9 месяцев назад +15

      Correct, for some reason🤷 I like my tiny kingdoms and awful empires bordering horrific empires.

    • @colminerojoshuab.8155
      @colminerojoshuab.8155 9 месяцев назад +6

      That feeling I'm outnumbered 4 to 1, recruits a bunch of mercs, win wars, get bankrupt, vassals revolt, my children dying left to right. The thrill of playing a godforsaken title.

    • @MC11723
      @MC11723 4 месяца назад

      @@colminerojoshuab.8155 i played with the interactive vassals mod on in the volga ural empire, when the mongols cai me plus a few allies had 90k men the mongols had 250k, it took a few save scums but I won after an 8 years war by baiting some of their armies with a portion of mine and attacking another part of their armies

    • @cub-square
      @cub-square 3 месяца назад

      Siberian Empire was fun playthrou

  • @Barzonius
    @Barzonius 9 месяцев назад +198

    I'd like to state a point regarding the Baltic Empire deserving more praise. It contains ALL 5 VIDILIST Holy Sites. If your culture has forest-related traditions (defensive & economic), it can be a force to be reckoned with...

    • @stennostenno1346
      @stennostenno1346 9 месяцев назад +21

      Also coastal

    • @CrashperM
      @CrashperM 2 месяца назад

      And while yes, the vikings give you a hard time. That also makes the area quite fun. We've all played against the viking a million times, so it switches up the experience quite nicely to be on the other end of that for once. And try to overcome those odds by eventually destroying them.

  • @loungekiller
    @loungekiller 9 месяцев назад +144

    The Baltic Empire is based. I refuse to elaborate, it just is.

    • @fxailing1201
      @fxailing1201 9 месяцев назад +8

      PrussianPilled

    • @Noxiefy
      @Noxiefy 9 месяцев назад +10

      Enjoy endless stacks of gold thanks to Defensive wars tradition from all the Defensive wars you will be haning

    • @macdixon3r
      @macdixon3r 9 месяцев назад +6

      ⁠@@Noxiefynot to mention those crazy forest development bonuses too. Especially if you’re Vidlist faith. Beautiful

    • @Noxiefy
      @Noxiefy 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@macdixon3r Also reforming it to Christian Syncretism and other of your choice guarantees you a calm Christian Border and strong alliances with other European powers.

    • @zenkrypt6577
      @zenkrypt6577 9 месяцев назад +4

      and the archers are crazy op

  • @carl4889
    @carl4889 9 месяцев назад +79

    Hard disagree on the Baltic Empire, though I'm not surprised it's in there.
    Build all three Hall of Heroes, and you get insanely powerful. Sure the vikings will come after you sometimes, but if you're instantly stackwiping them with your space marines, then all they serve to do is give you something to do with your downtime. Likewise the HRE trying haplessly to crusade you. Even the land is deceptively good as you can build tradeports on the Vistula river counties.
    Basically, it's CK3's version of Prussia, and I'm all for it.

  • @loungekiller
    @loungekiller 9 месяцев назад +110

    Forming the Empire of Tibet as a certain dynasty is an achievement though, I suppose that it's so bad, they had to include an achievement for doing it, lol.

    • @akhilallamraju9079
      @akhilallamraju9079 9 месяцев назад +23

      Yh but if you build up Tibet, it becomes an impenetrable fortress that not even the Mongols can threaten

    • @juke9674
      @juke9674 9 месяцев назад +13

      Its actually a really cool campaign - the empire shatters ~1 generation before game start, so you have a lot of storytelling with the different successor states

    • @idontlikerome2744
      @idontlikerome2744 3 месяца назад

      EU4 player here, what is the achievement?

  • @imaxinsertnounherex
    @imaxinsertnounherex 9 месяцев назад +21

    I routinely play as Siberia just to get the capital dev higher than Europe as a flex.

    • @sandythethird2292
      @sandythethird2292 9 месяцев назад +3

      Same, those steppe and Tiga empires can become crazy powerful once you get them going. By the time the Mongols get going it's not even a challenge, you just get too much time to get set up for it to be hard.

  • @j.ackermann9110
    @j.ackermann9110 9 месяцев назад +48

    (Dis)honourable mention for the wannabe empires that can be created during the iberian struggle (the only ending the AI will ever achieve without player help)

    • @now-semen-up
      @now-semen-up 9 месяцев назад +10

      this actually happened in my current playthrough, and yes it is miserable

    • @nevets2371
      @nevets2371 9 месяцев назад +8

      Wait, that's supposed to happen? I was so confused when there were a ton of tiny empires in spain, I thought it was a weird bug

    • @viroshanargiri4641
      @viroshanargiri4641 4 месяца назад +1

      Yeah detente permanently destroys forming Hispania empire title.

    • @ronix-p7q
      @ronix-p7q 3 месяца назад +2

      This is such a pathetic feature I hate it so much

  • @somemeansfish8987
    @somemeansfish8987 9 месяцев назад +52

    Tibet is a big ass mountain which makes you basically unconquerable with the right stacking of modifiers when you unite it,kinda important considering if you are going to be playing a long campaign the Mongols are right above knocking

    • @michaelchance6125
      @michaelchance6125 9 месяцев назад +8

      Ah yes, Mingols.

    • @raghudurina2354
      @raghudurina2354 9 месяцев назад +4

      You don’t want to be on the defense. And you can ignore the mongols if your far enough away. Making Tibet worse because of its positioning.

    • @somemeansfish8987
      @somemeansfish8987 9 месяцев назад

      @@michaelchance6125 thanks for pointing it out

    • @somemeansfish8987
      @somemeansfish8987 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@raghudurina2354 You absolutely do wanna be on the defensive and let the special troop hordes attrition

    • @viroshanargiri4641
      @viroshanargiri4641 4 месяца назад

      ​@@somemeansfish8987 Mongol special units temujin gets or by others taking Become the greatest of khan will not take attrition or supplies and have op sieging capacity.

  • @weabootrash5891
    @weabootrash5891 9 месяцев назад +20

    Honestly I hope the next big expansion next year is all about Nomads, make the Eastern Steppes interesting to play as/against

  • @NoNumbersAfterName
    @NoNumbersAfterName 9 месяцев назад +41

    I know you hate Tibet, so I'm not going to say anything there.
    But ranking the Baltic Empire as worse than Ajuraan? No. Most certainly not. You want to know what's larger than Ajuraan? Lithuania. A single kingdom in the Baltic Empire. And, like, the Baltic Empire is an excellent target if you yourself are a Viking, so, yeah.

    • @loungekiller
      @loungekiller 9 месяцев назад +11

      You can also form rhe Livonian Kingdom and dominate the Baltic Sea. Reverse invasion of Sweden, Norway and Denmark 😂

  • @colminerojoshuab.8155
    @colminerojoshuab.8155 9 месяцев назад +17

    I would argue one of the worst empirescto form is the North Sea Empire. The requirements alone are abysmal. I have to hold the Kingdom of England, Norway, and Denmark for 30 years while my ruler is on average 30-50 years old.

    • @viroshanargiri4641
      @viroshanargiri4641 4 месяца назад

      Yeah by the I've managed to all three kingdom my guy already 40.

    • @Fankas2000
      @Fankas2000 2 месяца назад

      I think the name is what makes it the worst. It's such a generic, non-historical name that a bunch of unimaginative nerds came up in their history class.

    • @dwightdeisenhower53
      @dwightdeisenhower53 Месяц назад

      But once you get it, it's pretty good.

  • @Abdullah-568
    @Abdullah-568 9 месяцев назад +19

    you wrote the 3rd and 2nd place both as the third

  • @muratonuryilmaz5385
    @muratonuryilmaz5385 9 месяцев назад +7

    Turan is saved because of special buildings and farmlands I suppose but I must say that tribal is the best gov type because you can raid and culture mixing still let you have next eras and giving all lands to your family and having one tradition about family (I can't remember the name)you can make it preaty op (If you manage to get Georgian with heavy cav to mix with it becames way too op)

    • @Gwebb74
      @Gwebb74 8 месяцев назад

      Fergana is a very interesting duchy and in real life, like a random green patch in a desert like it shouldn’t be there

    • @muratonuryilmaz5385
      @muratonuryilmaz5385 8 месяцев назад

      @@Gwebb74 but it is there in real life , right?

    • @Gwebb74
      @Gwebb74 8 месяцев назад

      @@muratonuryilmaz5385 it’s in Uzbekistan, same place Timur comes from allegedly

  • @aidankeogh9994
    @aidankeogh9994 9 месяцев назад +1

    One big thing I did over a playthrough was form Tibet and mass culture-convert every single county for my own culture with traditions for additional development in mountains and hill terrain, along with Loyal Vassals. It was rough to get going, and it certainly wasn't optimal, but it was at least flavorful. And Tibet is at least a fantastic empire to rule on the defensive.
    But yeah, its pretty rough.

  • @TwinHypeBack
    @TwinHypeBack 9 месяцев назад +3

    5. The thing with Vikings is they come with like 9000 troops every time and they’re just levies so if you have a decent tribal army you can smack them but they’re so annoying.
    4. The trophy for getting the Tibet empire is so easy the first Pugyel is a diplomat in 1066 and you can vassalize the whole empire in one life. The history of lost Guge kingdom in Tibet is very interesting as well.
    The rest agree for sure

  • @TheZynMan
    @TheZynMan 8 месяцев назад

    glad you put tibet #4 i would have been waiting for you to say it the whole video. i also hate playing ck3 in tibet.

  • @norbertlipusz3892
    @norbertlipusz3892 9 месяцев назад +14

    I think Ajuraan deserves a spot in this list.

    • @thetaikonaut8397
      @thetaikonaut8397 9 месяцев назад +1

      Ajuraan is good tho. I conquered all of India with that empire.

    • @loungekiller
      @loungekiller 9 месяцев назад +8

      Nah, Ajuraan has some pretty good terrain and if you are of the faith from that region, you'll cover all their holy sites/temples.

    • @norbertlipusz3892
      @norbertlipusz3892 9 месяцев назад +6

      @killer But it is very small, underdeveloped, tribal and has bad neighbouring lands to expand into (mostly hills and mountains in Ethiopia and desert in Arabia). I like Khazaria more.

    • @carl4889
      @carl4889 9 месяцев назад +6

      Ajuraan's strength is that it's the smallest empire in the game and in the corner. You get all the advantages of an Empire rank, but call still play tall and keep to yourself. Not the place for a warmonger (unless you want to build up first), but possibly the best spot in the world for a peaceful playthough.

  • @Damiano465
    @Damiano465 8 месяцев назад +1

    hills are one of the best terrains. Can build qanats ( farms and fields and orchards at lvl 5 quanat) and hill farms, hill dwelers give +20% development and megalithic constructions gives +15% plus if u have drylands or desert holdings (duchy of sanag) u can build small caravanserai or in the duchy of halcyon u can build watermills and windmills in most counties plus qanats. Id say top 5 terrains is floodplains farmlands hills drylands prob plains

  • @macdixon3r
    @macdixon3r 9 месяцев назад +1

    Personally Tibet was fun because of all the different faith’s available to be reformed within the empire. Also most of the cultures there in 867 already have most of the civs done already, you also have access to horse archers & crossbow combinations with XuXI

  • @АлексейПупышев-ь5ц
    @АлексейПупышев-ь5ц 9 месяцев назад +6

    Nah, kuzarism has a holy site in Crimea that gives you crazy (something like 50%) bonus to development growth in steppe, and not only in steppe terrain, but in the whole steppe region, which includes all north-eastern part of the map. With this bonus bad terrain problem is not relevant, learn the material before making videos like this

    • @ScreamingEagles.
      @ScreamingEagles.  9 месяцев назад

      I said earlier in the video I’m not putting holy sites into factor. What if you don’t follow kuzarism when you form the empire? That’d be like me putting Mongolia off this list because they have Karakorum and just because tengriism has the site

    • @chrisrudolf9839
      @chrisrudolf9839 9 месяцев назад

      @@ScreamingEagles. What I love about crusader kings is that they put enough thought into translating the local cultures and religions into gameplay mechanics to give them unique advantages that allow them to thrive in exacty those underdog regions that were historically their homelands and that they adapted to. I agree with your take though, because if we took cultures and religions into account, then the entire list would be pointless, because THERE IS NO BAD EMPIRE in crusader kings. Having the fitting culture and/or religion and using the right tactics to play into their strengths, you can turn any Empire into a superpower. For some of those Empires, it may be a little more difficult and require a little more thinking outside the box, but there is no Empire that is such of an underdog that it would be a pain to play it. The only exception are maybe the Asian Steppe Empires in a long game, but only because they will almost inevitably be overrun by Gengis Khan if you don't conquer Mongolia and become Gengis Khan yourself before the AI does it.

  • @Cyanischill
    @Cyanischill 9 месяцев назад +3

    This one is yeah good unlike the best kingdom top 5

  • @rusael333
    @rusael333 9 месяцев назад +1

    The Baltic Empire is ok if you settle there as vikings (stops invasions). Then you could become Vidilist and reform it, or go Catholic in order to not get holy warred.
    Also you can form it as Poland and RP as the Commonwealth.

  • @Salv2137
    @Salv2137 9 месяцев назад +1

    small empires are cool because u can maintain max level of court bonuses for pennies and have huge proffesional army

  • @roni.da.street
    @roni.da.street 9 месяцев назад +1

    Volga-ural you can mix bashrik culture with uralic i think and get massive bonuses to taiga and forest dev and income. You can just get stupid amounts of dev in an empire thats very easy to form even more if you get muqata tax as a clan. Get the cuman lands and then fully concentrate on deving before the mongols show up. Very cool campaigns as you can be of any religion and play a mix of both tall and wide

  • @tinktink360
    @tinktink360 9 месяцев назад +2

    I think it’s very interesting and kinda obvious when you actually play the game. Even through the dev is just as bad in West Africa none of those empires made the list. The supply limits never get terrible and ofc the Mali mines. It’s surprising Mali/Jenne didn’t make top 5 kingdoms. It’s super easy to form and Manding has floodplain terrain.

  • @robertandersson3417
    @robertandersson3417 2 месяца назад +2

    Well, if you do create the mongol Empire, which is quite easy if you have any idea about what you are doing, then suddenly the mongol Empire allows a world conquest. So with that caveat, I don't think the mongol Empire belongs to the worst Empire. I wouldn't recommend having it as a permanent base though, so I will give you that.

  • @galacticjellyfish9971
    @galacticjellyfish9971 9 месяцев назад +1

    I loved this video as always great content cant wait for more! Once i messed up and formed Khazaria in my opinion it just isnt fun. I think if youre able to do the ghengis khan desicion in mongolia it can be nice but ive had the problem where i cant form the mongol empire and it just like khazaria isnt fun.

  • @jootan91
    @jootan91 9 месяцев назад +4

    bad empire? i'd call it a challenge empire

  • @Der_Erpel
    @Der_Erpel 4 месяца назад

    Tibet actually funny. Because you have the terrain bonus with that himalaya troops and you can build marches in every single duchy, because it gives the same extra income bonus as tax offices in hills, mountains and desert mountains (most of the terrain in Tibet is that) AND the defence bonus.
    No one can conquer you.

  • @sweetpurple8812
    @sweetpurple8812 Месяц назад

    Volga ural is not useless because bolghar is the capital and especially in 1066, it develops around there really quickly.

  • @dianabialaskahansen2972
    @dianabialaskahansen2972 Месяц назад

    Much really depends on culture and religion for whether or not an empire is good or bad. Himalayan Settlers (and Mountain Homes) makes Tibet quite good. Khuzarism religion easily boosts Khazaria (and other steppe regions) to be quite good, and you can construct the Caravanseraei line of buildings. Vidilist and a Forest dwelling culture helps make the Baltic Empire into an unconquerable force.

  • @rafaszmuda669
    @rafaszmuda669 3 месяца назад

    Thanks for reminding me that i was supposed to play as Baltic Empire (because i live in gdansk so thats kinda home).

  • @maldegaar
    @maldegaar 9 месяцев назад

    The Baltic empire is absolutely OP. You can easily pick up Konni which lets you stack wipe and outrun everything. You have all five holy sites, it's super small de jure meaning you can actually have a semi tall empire and you left to Europe to have all the fun decisions like dismantle the papacy etc.

  • @ultraflopp2802
    @ultraflopp2802 2 месяца назад

    “Khazar…” the horse-archers in question:

  • @Kwisatz-Chaderach
    @Kwisatz-Chaderach 9 месяцев назад

    Me: Completely dominates the region by playing as the Duchy of Bohemia.

  • @oddindian1
    @oddindian1 9 месяцев назад

    I want to play long enough in Tibet to form an Empire. You make me cry ;.;.;.;.;.;.;.;.;.;.;.;.;.;.;

  • @julianfischer6404
    @julianfischer6404 9 месяцев назад

    I did the Tibet achievement and boy. It needs an overhaul. Aesthetic wise they are stil altaic, no special buildings and mostly bad regions aside of the one part with the Han Culture. It is one of the least thought out regions of this game.

  • @lightfallonthehead3842
    @lightfallonthehead3842 2 месяца назад

    min-maxing makes everything kinda boring after a certain point

  • @sandythethird2292
    @sandythethird2292 9 месяцев назад

    2 things to say, since the culture update talking about teraun types without considering the huge benefits u get from cultures is kinda pointless.
    Also, tibet should be at the top of this list, tibet is worse to fight in than tiga, worse than the stepps, and you don't even get decent units to take advantage of th terrain. Tibet is an empire that you make because your vassal swarm late game has taken a chunk out of the area already and you think, eh, might as well. Actually playing in the region is torture.

  • @Tristan44-16
    @Tristan44-16 4 месяца назад

    Not taking cultures/ holy sites into account when taking about the empires is really not a good choice. Holy site special buildings and their bonuses can be huge. Also cultures really change how well your characters interact with the land to better make use of the "trash terrain". Maybe once you learn how to make a horse archer space marine army and stack wipe ghengis you'll change your mind.

  • @Kevinopn
    @Kevinopn 8 месяцев назад +2

    Bro, with the new DLC, EVRY empire can destroy evrything. Make a legend, earn the "cheat code" for forcing your neighbor to join you. And here you go, the recipe for conquering evrything. CKIII is becoming so boring i swear..

  • @Kaasga
    @Kaasga 8 месяцев назад

    The Empires have almost zero differences

  • @xobani121
    @xobani121 9 месяцев назад +3

    Cool vid, now dont pin macewindu9635's comment or youre gay

  • @juanma9511
    @juanma9511 9 месяцев назад +4

    Add the shitty empires from iberian struggle resolution

    • @chrisrudolf9839
      @chrisrudolf9839 9 месяцев назад +2

      I guess you mean the specific solution "Iberian compromise", which turns every existing independent kingdom into their own dwarf empires. They have one good use though: Conquer all of them and then give the spare ones to members of your dynasty, to make your dynastie fame absolutely explode and get the "dynastie of many crowns" decision (and the achievement "what nepotism?"), which requires your family to have 10 independant kings or emperors. So creating those titles and holding one of those yourself at least for some time (while you push either into France or into North Africa to conquer a bigger Empire) is not an underdog position at all, especially since Iberia also has some very strong provinces and special buildings. I'd take ruling the Empire of Galicia over ruling any of the vast but empty East Asian Steppe Empires anytime (except of course for Mongolia as a stepstone to become Gengis Khan)

    • @oddindian1
      @oddindian1 9 месяцев назад

      Yeah TV resolution in Spain is abysmal.

  • @eliott.b76
    @eliott.b76 9 месяцев назад +1

    Francia is undoubtedly the worst empire, i mean, would YOU want to be french? I'd rather die thank you!

    • @immasword
      @immasword 6 месяцев назад +1

      Could always take it as the bretons, thats a bit better

  • @DamianLamier
    @DamianLamier 9 месяцев назад

    This whole region needs a rework or something. I would die for Asian tribal migration dlc. Wanna play as a proud Bulgharian khan of London.

  • @IronTiger22
    @IronTiger22 9 месяцев назад

    I will not tolerate this Khazaria slander 😠

  • @kingpoxy2289
    @kingpoxy2289 9 месяцев назад

    The best empire in my opinion is francia because of the sheer opportunity to become extremely strong even stronger then a hungary poland and pomerania controlling holy roman empire with three huge allies while having no allies myself50k vs 37k... yeah i stopped playing because it got boring i mean hell I got paris to 100 development in 1230 whilst starting as Phillipe the worst king in europe in that region in 1066... like bruh

  • @_alexdez8053
    @_alexdez8053 9 месяцев назад +2

    Awesome video, now don't pin macewindu9635's comment or you're gay

  • @emperorbobs
    @emperorbobs 9 месяцев назад

    mongolian empire title isnt all that bad if all you want is a large army

  • @davidcoquelle3081
    @davidcoquelle3081 9 месяцев назад

    don't form the mongol empire, this is literally about empires, that's so dumb, the rest of the list was good though

  • @mechano6505
    @mechano6505 9 месяцев назад

    Tibet is one of the strongest empires in the game, go make a religion with cthonic redoubts and megaliths

  • @deliciousmorning1907
    @deliciousmorning1907 9 месяцев назад +1

    Amazing video, now pin me or you are gay.

  • @macewindu9635
    @macewindu9635 9 месяцев назад +6

    Excellent Vid screaming eagles Now pin or gay

  • @cupholderincorporated
    @cupholderincorporated 9 месяцев назад +1

    Rate the Jewish faiths plz
    Luv ur vid btw 😎

  • @unciuncia420
    @unciuncia420 9 месяцев назад

    Kanem Bornu.
    The "good" land isn't even in the titular kingdom. Way worse than Tibet of the Baltic. Because sure, Tibet is hard, and the Baltic has the vikings, but I'm honestly wondering if you'ever ene played in Africa. Kanem Bornu, Maghreb, and Ajaraam are pretty damn bad. And as some one who played in all the areas, those three suck just as much as the mid steppe empires.

    • @julianfischer6404
      @julianfischer6404 9 месяцев назад

      Well it has at least some floodplains. Floodplains salvage the region to a passable level. But compared to Maghreb and Ajuraan it has no Coastal Region which is a heavy downside.
      I have a bit of a Soft Spot for Ajuuran as it is a perfect region for playing tall.
      And the other issue is Mali, Guinea and Abyssinia (and even the Kingdom of Egypt) are really good Empires if you build it up properly and you can have fun with them. I only feudalize in Africa if I took the Gold Mines.

  • @garretaustin9338
    @garretaustin9338 8 месяцев назад

    in the Baltics i much prefer forming my own empire so i get more territory

  • @fxailing1201
    @fxailing1201 9 месяцев назад

    “Number one, Mongolia” weird way to spell the fake Roman Empire called the “HRE” 🤢🤢🤢🤢