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- Is this the only Way to make TSAREENA work?! | Pokemon Unite Tsareena Build
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What buff would you give to Tsareena?
Buff her defenses, and increase Queen Majesty’s healing.
Both grassy glide and trop kick should give defence and special defence buffs
She’s just playing in a special attackers world.
Buffing the Queen is so dangerous, just because of how awesome her base kit is. A small buff could make her broken… it’s hard to give her a buff and call it reasonable…
Best way to buff her is to actually nerf the Pokémon who need to be nerfed. We all know who needs it too…
Prob buff its base health or def/sp Def. I feel like she should be simular to scizor. Something bulky with some dmg.
A small hp, defence, and sp defenceman buff would probably help
There was a time when tsarena clutches 1v5 but now it's hardly 1v2
Do not bring me to those memoris( idont know how to spell memorise sorry) those tsareena days when zacian didn't exist when SHE was the queen of the game.
Even 1v1 is sus these days
It can go down so easily these days, sad
I don't miss those days
Tsareena can't even 1v1 now 😂
Jungle Tsareena items I have had the most success with are
Claw - Amp - RFS
Full Heal / X Attack
Since I’m a Tsareena main I remember the exact changes. There was 4 nerfs. The first one was when you moved to the Theia sky ruins, a little damage was brushed off of her, makes sense since she was S tier. And then they nerfed her Queenly majesty boosted trop kick, reducing the shield it gives you. And then they did the same for Grassy Glide, reducing the shield. Those nerfs were questionable but Tsareena was still pretty good after them. And out of nowhere they did ANOTHER nerf, shredding her défenses and now she’s too squishy to be able to get any of her attacks off before going down.
i am pretty sure the grassy glide nerfs and defense,sp defense nerfs were at the same time, it was confusing as trop kick nerfs were fine enough for her too
I think trop kick also got a effect nerf or something, like it reduced less attack of opposing Pokemon or something like that
After the first nerf it should have stopped. Then the second nerf came. Even after that it was ok because I was maining her and still did good. Then the stat nerfs came and Urshifu and Tsareena went all the way to the ground
I think the last NERF was cause of a tournament result. She was one of the most picked Pokémon in a tournament ( I think it was with Japan) so they gutted her after that
@@serily4524 Yeah, I guess that's how unite rolls they gut the top mon if a category before the release of a new one
From being the "Queen" to getting almost deleted against "perish song lapras" even with the level advantage. The devs learned character degradation from Akira toriyama.
Queen's somewhere between tien and yamcha...
@@briyan475 and the meta is Tournament of power
@@lloydter lol
Oh no, don't let timi know tsareena is even slightly playable, they'll give her another unwarranted nerf outta nowhere.
This what tsareena mains fear
I played one match today with Scizor against a Tsareena, even we had the same level in a bullet punch i restoured ALL the damage that the tsareena made to me
I miss the days when Tsareena used to dominate the lane. I wish they buff her again.
Tsareena needs a defense and shields buff. Revert those nerfs and then she’ll honestly be fine. Maybe a small buff to triple axel. And stomps old cooldown:
It’s sad how they leave Pokémon all weak and irrelevant while zacian and glaceon get to run rampant
I was playing the newly buffed blaze-feint cinderace against a tsareena. Then I played tsareena against a heat-prison chandelure. Both times this useless all-rounder got bodied in close range against squishy ranged attackers. Went from queen to queef
Fr she can't even beat the attackers in close range because it's so squishy and most attackers have a stun, slow or a move which increases their speed.
tsareena is one of my most played pokemon and it pains me to see how far she's fallen. RIP winning 1v4s, can't even 1v2 now. Urshifu is now where tsareena was. Sustain + Damage + Mobility is the name of the game when soloing the enemy team, though I'd argue that peak tsareena is better than peak waterbear at this, mostly because of her AoE and unite move. Waterbear is great at diving the backline and surviving, while pre-nerf tsareena was great at taking on the entire team together.
Peak water bear only looks so good bcoz of comfey tho even without that it is still broken.
Even the 3 times patched tsar would have been a bigger hassle with comfey than water bear is now.
Tsar when the emblem system was launched was launched was just perfect for the game but i think the devs watched too much of 'Stevemycat' gameplay and decided to give some unreasonable nerfs to it just like they did with char.
the enemies cameback because my unite move got cancelled lol and since tsareena is squishy ofc i died insanely fast.
Tsareena feels like a very high skill Pokémon with low return.. i wish they would show her some love, the mechanics is amazing.
Other than a very slight buff on damage, i would give her a brief (like 1,5 sec) hindrance resistant buff as soon as her ability bar is full, just to not get gutted by the enormous cc this meta has
The sad part is that even if they bring her back to her super broken days, she still wouldn’t be at the top cause Zacian would still be stronger and the meta shifted to SP Attackers / range.
And some All arounders or some mons that can rush down on those special attsckers
The meta was pretty mage-centred even during Tsareena's prime. She deals with mages effectively
I want her back, it's so sad to see how she has fallen
They really need to bring back it's defense and sp defense. It's fine to nerf the damage, but the defense and shield nerf is just unnecessary.
Totally the last two nerfs were straight up pointless they always buff the ones we don't need one for its so pathetic this game has one of the worst moba Dev's in terms of actually listening to the community
@Child support Apparently, they buff pokemon then give them expensive skins to give people a reason to buy them, and they milk the pokemon from there to get money.
I don't see the point of nerfing all the physical attackers to the point of them being bad
To making special attackers op by giving them buffs and new items
8:50 Tsareena so bad that Chris swore.
They need to simply revert the last 2 nerfs and she will be in a good spot again.
The 1st nerf was to QM Shield on Trop Kick (from 225% to 150%)
The 2nd nerf hit her QM Shield on Grassy Glide (same as Trop Kick), Def/SP.Def dropped by 50, and more cooldown on stomp.
I’ve been playing this moveset up on Tsareena with Potion and Focus and it’s gives the best set of outcomes I could find. The fall off with her is so tragic, she’s the mon I have the most games with.
I fr think Tsareena should crit more maybe make it so that Tripple axel increases critical hit rate.
Is there a way to make her work without stacking? If you could, then you could be a threat early and get those levels faster maybe.
I mean you could use crit emblems along with scope lens
But it would be luck based sometimes
@RandomDrizzile ok
@@mashedpotatoguy true
I miss stomping with the queen 😢
I had really good results with trop kick and axle, specifically because i used that to take down the back row and eacape. Alot of things try to run form Tsareena but all perish in the end. Usually do lane with it and get attack weight with policy and last usually focus or energy amp, being able to use trop kicks slow and damage effect is great for dealing with dog and bear as you make them run after and get them with the damage of axle after baiting their attacks and evading with trop. Was on a murder streak in a game before it was fumbled at ray.
Maybe some more defence stat would work
seeing tsareena become so weak feels wrong
They really should revert some of the nerfs that Tsareena has received
If you trio q I would say get a bot lane partner with exp share, and a jungle with strong play in Lane after level five. Then switch reena with the jungle after first birds.
For example water bear mid and Reena + Slowbro bot. This lets Reena get her stacks and work up to level 6 asap, then level up to her unite move.
Depending on how things go after center birds she might be able to gank, make some scores on top and secure Regieleki while the rest of the team takes bottom
i remembered when Tsareena was opressive.
For Tsareena, I just want them to revert Trop Kick to how it was. The move was genuinely so fun to use and they straight up gutted it because it was more common of a pick ON TOP OF everything else they did, most of it being unnecessary because she wasn't completely broken at the time of the nerfs nor was she a character that couldn't be beaten by the current meta.
This close to being crazy enough to try random jank like drain crown triple axel to survive xD
Man, not even going to tge jungle Tsareena can make 100k damage 😭😭😭😭
i’ve been trying to tell ppl stomp and grassy glide is way better. that extra cc helps
why would you play AW on tsareena? she is way better with razor, focus and muscle/weakness. you could say she does more dmg with abilities but her basic attacks can rival with skills because of defence reduction on boosted auto and also the fact that you have razor on almost every attack with how tsareena works. Also stomp is imo waaaaaay worse than triple axel because tripple axel gives you dmg and attack speed boost if you hit with it, it gives you better healing bc the range is bigger and bc it gives you attack speed it also increases the frequency of defence reduction and razor slow. the same goes for glide - it is worse than its counterpart bc glide is only for chasing squishies but the problem is all squishies can now burst tsareena before that happens so the slow and damage reduction from trop makes it soo much better. tsareena may seem like a skill spam char but she is better suited for mixed dmg.
EDIT: also people... you have to realize the stomp glide set is actually terrible and shouldnt be played bc you make the winrate low with this set. imo tsareenas winrate would be higher is all would play trop axel
In this current CC meta tripple axel is worse than stomp
@@babyaries3076 nah you trippin. meta this meta that... you know that stomp is just shit ?
Tripple axel is worse than stomp end of the discussion, stomp is faster , tripple axel is so slow,also tripple axel can be cancelled. Though i admit that tripple axel is more fun than stomp , it's not worth throwing
@@nielk4059 stomp is worse bc of its range and "cast time" bc if you play with stomp you have to be VERY close ALL the time and can heal from max 2 targets in most of cases and when you use stomp it takes a sec to actually hit. triple axel is instant and has bigger range so you can insta heal (what you cant do with stomp) and you can heal from more targets which = more sustain which you dont get from stomp. also axel allows you to hit enemies from further than stomp. sometimes you have to not listen to what youtubers say and maybe think once in video games because of people like you tsareena has low win rate and pick rate >:(
They have their own pros and cons stomp burst damage is still good along with axel's kiting potential
Tsareena mains are now feeling the pain which zeraora mains fealt when tsar was at her peak. Don't worry, this too shall pass. Timi will sooner buff the triple axle and unite move and then call it a day. Your time to be next average bottom pick will come when probably lapras is nerfed to the ground.
Idk why i sometimes forget to do standing auto's to stack up Tsareena's passive. Also I never thought to do the double interrupt of Glassy Glide and Stomp. That's just mean.
Either way, I personally prefer leaving her on 2 stacks of her passive instead of 3, because the first move goes on CD underneath her passive. So you potentially get more uses of her abilities overall. I do also use Full Heal because SoloQ requires me to fight the full team half the time.
Yess some more Tsareena!!
Yeahh why is she super squishy now, the last time I played her the first time I can do 1v5 with others and still get out with small hp left
Tsareena is a bit squishy but is good pokemon if you know play it! 🤣 maybe you need practice with her!
Rapid fire scarf and muscle band should be better with the talent mecanics i was wondering this 🤔
I did a full heal with triple axle muscle band and rapid scarf for max auto attack. Did 108k 2 days ago
I relate so hard to that first comment, I’m always a defender trying to protect my 4 attackers in solo Q, even up to like 1600 on ladder this is a problem
So many ADC mains, and so many more that only play gren, cinder or deci cause its their favorite mon. If only Timi could have done something about it. At least to stop releasing attacker after attacker, and give us some popular mons as defenders or supports.
Seeing Lapras shred Tsar just pisses me off.
They need to rebuff the shield from grassy glide now she have to ulti just to kill two Pokémon now back then you early didn’t need your ultimate
Really*
I just came back from playing the Dynamic Punch/Close Combat Machamp and I won against a Trevanant Comfey. Also, Tsareena needs help right now. Like really need help because she is way too squishy to make it work.
How is it going cris?
haha i feel like every day i play i think in the back of my mind how i would rather be playing tsareena ): the last nerfs to it are unreasonable considering the state of PU right now. buff it’s passive shields and defenses again, leave the damage as is.
“I can stack now!” At the last 20 seconds of the game Cris?
joke?
That second time nerf was totally unnecessary specially on her base defense.. And yes F Japan.. They made it nerf unnecsssarily for the 2nd time.. That nerf patch really did surprise me..I didn't expect it to get it..
Nice try but only u can play this mon in this patch
Can we get a Chandelure guide if you feel up to it? Very interesting kit & play style
Bring back the queen, make her good again
Its a mix of plenty of things. She got nerfed mutliples times in a row after she had already lost an edge. Meta is heavy on Sp Atkers, which she can reach well, but she takes insane amounts of dmg trying to go in and she doesnt have the survivability she used to have to make it out. Outside of that, we got new busted brawling all rounders lile Urshifu and Zacian that makes it both harder to use Tsareena and jarder to justify picking her over these.
Tbh if they could revert her survivability nerfs i feel she would still be in the lower half bcuz of the current meta, pair that with her being a shadow of herself, you got a bottom winrate pkmn lol
Now it's a unbalanced game they made zacian urshifu broken but comparing to this allrounder sarena,charazod,garchomp,draganite,machamp this allrounders still weak
Who takes more skill to use? tsareena or water bear?
Tsareena, You have to optimize The stack of the Ability , Urshifu is only Rapid strike, Basic, Rapid strike, Basic Rapid strike, Basic and repeat
Tsareena for sure, urshifu(blue) just comes out the jungle wins the lane 90% of the time
I actually dont know why tsareena is so bad in this meta.
tsareena just goes down way too fast
K thanks
Seeing potato play anything other than buzzswole and chomp is weird
How to buff my soloQ teammates 💀 btw great video cris❤
finally
Potato Stap on me Cris 😊
Hi cris can you try playing some talon? The main idea is to avoid the icicle spear from glace, ult from cinder, and ofc the other big boy damage things in the meta with fly and then landing on them when they're done ive been playing this and its a great experience
yeah, thats how talon works. the problem is that hes pretty much useless in this (partial) tank meta
@@bojuu its a hit and run playstyle, after nuking the squishy just ignore the tank and flame charge away until another fly is ready
after last patch if we have an afk and we loose
we don't loose any point
earlier we lost 2
There are many all rounders that have low win rates right now (Tsarenna, Lucario, Buzzwole, Aegislash, Azumarill, and Dragonite)
I bet the only reason Charizard was mostly used is because he's kinda one of the mascots of pokemon franchise too.
@@serily4524i still think azu is good ,he's even my main and i wim ALOT of games with him ,i still think he needs a slight buff tho.
hi cris
Bro please stop saying Tsareena is squishy
I'm getting tired of people saying Tsareena ain't good in current meta
Try running lane Tsareena with full heal and moveset trip kick and triple axel.
Great idea let me play an even worse moveset thanks
@@CrisHeroes You're welcome🙂
If she's squishy she IS squishy, you can't even get stacks at the start of the game without dying to literally anything.
Opppp
Pop off queen❤
I’d recommend using cookie on her too atp since she barely has any health 🥲
I think cookie was good before but now that Tsareena has no survivability whatsover so max attack is better, tho i still sometimes run cookie but she has so low defences that it goes down easily without putting out any damage.
@@babyaries3076 that’s what the cookie is for, to increase survivability, without it she has none. Attack weight, cookie, and some other attack item. Using all attack items will just end with you dying in three hits, probably less.
@randomdrizzile I mostly use GG/stomp and still have a 65% WR in this meta so 🤷🏽♂️
@randomdrizzile lmao what 😂 I’m just responding to a useless comment