This was a really fun video to do. I hope you guys enjoyed it ! :) Final stats after shifting disks and learning that ATK% is very important are : 3962 ATK 68.2% Crit rate (+15% cause I have C2) 118.8% Crit dmg
You could use Astra's set to increase her ATK instead of Woodpeacker, so you can have more chances on CritRate, CritDmg and ATK all together... All extra sets I gave it to Ellen and other attackers that need it Then you sum up all the sub stats (ATK, CRate, CDmg) and them you add the bonus on top of it, example: - ATK % +1 - ATK +1 - CritRATE +2 - DEF This is have a total of 6 subs, being flat attack equivalent to 0.5: - ATK% - PEN - CritRATE +3 - CritDMG +2 This have a total of 8 subs, being one of those set with 4 subs at level 0 At the end, all it's matter is the total sub counts. Any offensive Disk5 main stats works as long you have a high sub count
Btw, if you have her weapon and your AM is 115 or higher, you can lower the crit rate more than 68%. When you engage in combat, you get an additional 12% added crit rate along with your C2. So, in total, you actually have 27% added crit rate. I suggest you lower it down a little bit and aim to get some more crit damage.
Really ? That's interesting because her signature ability is that she scales her anomaly from crit rate so I thought crit rate was better. Well Idk I'm gonna make some research and maybe change if its really a big difference. Thx for the tip :)
@MisterTheT her crit rate only affects her anomaly buildup rate, up to 80%. This doesn't mean you HAVE to hit 80%, so I've been using atk% on my disk 4 lol
Unlike other anomaly units, Miyabi is built for crit, she gets more from it than from Atk% if it wasn't like that everybody would build her like any other anomaly unit, unless you can get around 80% crit, it is better to go for crit rate, What i'm talking is around 5-15% damage loss so of course it's not a big deal
Wait, Atk% is actually better than Crit Dmg on Miyabi. Basically, Atk% does a tiny bit more damage than Crit Dmg, but the real difference is that Atk% scales with flat Atk buffs from supports like Lucy and Soukaku. Tested on 4th Slot 48% Crit Dmg VS 30% Atk, makes Miyabi go from doing 5300 dmg to 5800 dmg on a level 70 dummy in practice room. It's sad cause stacking crit dmg is more fun, but if you get atk% buffs it can still be a God Disk
No, this is wrong. Your %attack drive discs (or W engine secondary stats) only change your on field attack, the calculation before the battle starts. It does not impact the buffs that Soukaku or Lucy give. What can change are W-Engine effects (such as the 9.6% bonus attack from Canonrotor) or Drive Disc sets that proc (such as electro woodpecker). Those use your attack /after/ your drive discs and W-engine are taken into account so those scale much better. Where does your damage increase come from, then? Well, a higher raw attack can be better than more crit damage if you already have a lot of crit damage. Miyabi's unique W engine gives her a ridiculous 50% crit damage, and remember, W Engines effects only impact your on field performance. They do not impact the character sheet. So, most of the people coming to your conclusion are just forgetting that Miyabi has an artificially inflated crit damage stat, so she will usually get more out of extra attack to be further multiplied by her ridiculous crit damage rather than more crit damage. But this, realistically, shouldn't happen because you should always run Crit% chance in the 4th slot. Crit chance is too important for Miyabi with or without her engine. At a bare minimum, you should have 73% if you have M2 Miyabi or 88% if you only have M1. That ensures she is capped at 100% once you proc blade and song, which means you only risk losing one Frostburn proc to a non-crit. Ensuring every Frostburn crits is what matters the most.
At that time I didn't do as much research and didn't know about the fact that Miyabi really needed ATK as well as crit rate. So yeah I switched back to this one after the research
Getting bullied by every boss in the game. -- Says the man who owns a C2 Miyabi with signature 😂.( nice joke ) Me on the other hand clear every end game with piper burnice and zhu yuan qingyi
No wonder when he throws away good artifacts due to rolling... atk%... despite it bringing way more value due to the oversaturation of dmg% buffs in any fighting mode.
Yeah I didn't know that ATK% was a worthwhile substat for Miyabi until researching after seeing the comments. I still kept all the artefacts so no worry, I didn't throw it away. Thx for the help :)
I'm splitting hairs over the final substats I need man. 195% CD at 3513 attk with 56% CR. I just need 4.8% more CR since I have her M2 (THANK THE F2P GODS MAN) and I'll have 75% of the 80% required to for her anomaly buildup boost. Edit: May I ask how much your Frostburn break is doing against say a lvl 70 Dullahan in the training mode? I'm very curious how much of a difference that extra damage on your build is doing for that.
it's a bit painful to watch disk upgrades. You can miss very good disks. in most cases %atk is valued as much as crits, especially if u have sig weapon with high base attack. It can untie your hands in the choice of 5th and 6th disks, where you can take either crits or atk or ice damage, if you have enough crits in substats. Otherwise, there may be an oversaturation of crits and demenishing return. You can use simple calculators/tables to compare crits and attack with supports buffs
I play this game for like 6 months and i never used this mode in my life, im felling kinda dumb now😢(btw im level 51 but i did a break for like 2 months without playing)
All love man but before you become a Miyabi main, you need to learn how to build her. You had so many good pieces and just left them. I hope you learned more after the video.
finally zzz disc rolling videos hates Atk% for some reason 🥲, probably miyabi's most important stat, and even more so in disorder comps pinned comment looks great though very optimal cr/cd ratio and very nice extra chunk to atk ratio for disorder
@MisterTheT thats kinda... Damn. Mine are 80 crit chance 147 crit damage and 2700 attack if I remember right. Im thinking about getting attack instead of frost damage on 5 disk drive since they are kinda same. So i will have like 3k attack like that.
@hituyasi Yeah I'm thinking of doing that too since I have way more ATK% disks than Ice Dmg. Anyways thx a lot for the insight. I just realized how much I didn't do enough research on my main before the video 😅
not showing final stats bruh, and why are upset getting atk% rolls? after 80% crit rate the main stats that you should prioritise are the crit dmg and atk%(crit rate(up to 80%)>crit dmg=atk%>pen)
I think I might be considered lucky. Cause from my experience I thought you would get 1-3 god pieces. I get 2 from ~5,5k and thought it was unlucky. At least here you have variations in artifact. I remember in HSR I spent ~6k resin (I really can't remember how this stuff called in every game, so I just call it resin) and have no god pieces. And what is worse not all pieces were good. I only had 4 good and 2 temporary pieces. Worst mihoyo game in term of grinding.
Idk, I haven't played any other Hoyoverse games except early Genshin and in this game you can't really have a piece of another random set that has good stats on it like you can sometimes in genshin. I personally think its as bad as the others but its debatable and I haven't really played a lot of Hoyoverse games. And honestly, in all the games its still very hard to have good sets. Hope your luck gets better thought🙌
This was a really fun video to do. I hope you guys enjoyed it ! :)
Final stats after shifting disks and learning that ATK% is very important are :
3962 ATK
68.2% Crit rate (+15% cause I have C2)
118.8% Crit dmg
0:42 when you see the glasses you know we getting into the real nerdy stufd
That intro felt way too real
okay this video is so good! i hope u grow as deserved
Thx a lot :)
4:14 is really good disc. Why did u skipped it?
Wasn't aware that ATK% was good at the time. Don't worry I still have it :)
You could use Astra's set to increase her ATK instead of Woodpeacker, so you can have more chances on CritRate, CritDmg and ATK all together...
All extra sets I gave it to Ellen and other attackers that need it
Then you sum up all the sub stats (ATK, CRate, CDmg) and them you add the bonus on top of it, example:
- ATK % +1
- ATK +1
- CritRATE +2
- DEF
This is have a total of 6 subs, being flat attack equivalent to 0.5:
- ATK%
- PEN
- CritRATE +3
- CritDMG +2
This have a total of 8 subs, being one of those set with 4 subs at level 0
At the end, all it's matter is the total sub counts. Any offensive Disk5 main stats works as long you have a high sub count
Man. I wish I could split hairs over the plus stats.
I'm over here just struggling to get crit/crit on every disc after thousands of batteries 💀
This is just pain and cope man ….thank you for sharing , I feel better now..
Good job bro this is a good video the editing is hella good bravo ❤
Appreciate it man
Btw, if you have her weapon and your AM is 115 or higher, you can lower the crit rate more than 68%. When you engage in combat, you get an additional 12% added crit rate along with your C2. So, in total, you actually have 27% added crit rate. I suggest you lower it down a little bit and aim to get some more crit damage.
apparently for the 4th piece a atk% in main is better because frostburn rely on attack so while you loose some crit dmg you get more anomaly damage
Really ? That's interesting because her signature ability is that she scales her anomaly from crit rate so I thought crit rate was better. Well Idk I'm gonna make some research and maybe change if its really a big difference. Thx for the tip :)
@MisterTheT her crit rate only affects her anomaly buildup rate, up to 80%. This doesn't mean you HAVE to hit 80%, so I've been using atk% on my disk 4 lol
@ebiooo Yeah I didn't really know that, I thought all her build was on crit rate/crit dmg. Thx a lot for the info !
Unlike other anomaly units, Miyabi is built for crit, she gets more from it than from Atk% if it wasn't like that everybody would build her like any other anomaly unit, unless you can get around 80% crit, it is better to go for crit rate, What i'm talking is around 5-15% damage loss so of course it's not a big deal
@MisterTheTMiyabi frost burn base on ATK+crit because frost burn can trigger crit.
Wait, Atk% is actually better than Crit Dmg on Miyabi. Basically, Atk% does a tiny bit more damage than Crit Dmg, but the real difference is that Atk% scales with flat Atk buffs from supports like Lucy and Soukaku. Tested on 4th Slot 48% Crit Dmg VS 30% Atk, makes Miyabi go from doing 5300 dmg to 5800 dmg on a level 70 dummy in practice room.
It's sad cause stacking crit dmg is more fun, but if you get atk% buffs it can still be a God Disk
Yup after doing some research I found that out. Fixed my build with more ATK%. Thx for the explanation tho :)
No, this is wrong. Your %attack drive discs (or W engine secondary stats) only change your on field attack, the calculation before the battle starts. It does not impact the buffs that Soukaku or Lucy give.
What can change are W-Engine effects (such as the 9.6% bonus attack from Canonrotor) or Drive Disc sets that proc (such as electro woodpecker). Those use your attack /after/ your drive discs and W-engine are taken into account so those scale much better.
Where does your damage increase come from, then? Well, a higher raw attack can be better than more crit damage if you already have a lot of crit damage. Miyabi's unique W engine gives her a ridiculous 50% crit damage, and remember, W Engines effects only impact your on field performance. They do not impact the character sheet.
So, most of the people coming to your conclusion are just forgetting that Miyabi has an artificially inflated crit damage stat, so she will usually get more out of extra attack to be further multiplied by her ridiculous crit damage rather than more crit damage.
But this, realistically, shouldn't happen because you should always run Crit% chance in the 4th slot. Crit chance is too important for Miyabi with or without her engine. At a bare minimum, you should have 73% if you have M2 Miyabi or 88% if you only have M1. That ensures she is capped at 100% once you proc blade and song, which means you only risk losing one Frostburn proc to a non-crit.
Ensuring every Frostburn crits is what matters the most.
nice man! is this your first video in youtube?
Yup sure is :)
so whats the finals stats you didnt show it in the video. 😢
(I added it to the pinned comment) :)
Disc on 4:18 is better. Why is that a bad disc tho?
At that time I didn't do as much research and didn't know about the fact that Miyabi really needed ATK as well as crit rate. So yeah I switched back to this one after the research
Getting bullied by every boss in the game.
-- Says the man who owns a C2 Miyabi with signature 😂.( nice joke )
Me on the other hand clear every end game with piper burnice and zhu yuan qingyi
No wonder when he throws away good artifacts due to rolling... atk%... despite it bringing way more value due to the oversaturation of dmg% buffs in any fighting mode.
Yeah I didn't know that ATK% was a worthwhile substat for Miyabi until researching after seeing the comments. I still kept all the artefacts so no worry, I didn't throw it away. Thx for the help :)
Yeah caught me there😅
Gl with your team ❤
When will you update another video?
Depends on how long it'll take to edit it and if I have enough time to do it. But I'll try my best for next week :)
@MisterTheT I will be waiting
I'm splitting hairs over the final substats I need man. 195% CD at 3513 attk with 56% CR. I just need 4.8% more CR since I have her M2 (THANK THE F2P GODS MAN) and I'll have 75% of the 80% required to for her anomaly buildup boost. Edit: May I ask how much your Frostburn break is doing against say a lvl 70 Dullahan in the training mode? I'm very curious how much of a difference that extra damage on your build is doing for that.
it's a bit painful to watch disk upgrades. You can miss very good disks. in most cases %atk is valued as much as crits, especially if u have sig weapon with high base attack. It can untie your hands in the choice of 5th and 6th disks, where you can take either crits or atk or ice damage, if you have enough crits in substats. Otherwise, there may be an oversaturation of crits and demenishing return. You can use simple calculators/tables to compare crits and attack with supports buffs
I play this game for like 6 months and i never used this mode in my life, im felling kinda dumb now😢(btw im level 51 but i did a break for like 2 months without playing)
Bro I only farmed yesterday. for miyabi and found 3 Crit-rate/Crit-damage disks in one day I don't think farming disks in this game is hard.
idk what you were looking for when upgrading the disks, can you explain?
Crit rate and crit damage
Bro is a gacha gambling addict looking for jackpots lol EZ don't play the game like this guy. Good content tho
Dude 80 battery WTF 😂
All love man but before you become a Miyabi main, you need to learn how to build her. You had so many good pieces and just left them. I hope you learned more after the video.
Yeah my build makes way more sense now. Learned a LOT
Glad to hear! Would love to see a follow up video 🍻
finally zzz disc rolling videos
hates Atk% for some reason 🥲, probably miyabi's most important stat, and even more so in disorder comps
pinned comment looks great though very optimal cr/cd ratio and very nice extra chunk to atk ratio for disorder
what are your stats after allat 😭
3962 ATK
68.2% Crit rate (+15% cause I have C2)
118.8% Crit dmg
@MisterTheT thats kinda... Damn. Mine are 80 crit chance 147 crit damage and 2700 attack if I remember right. Im thinking about getting attack instead of frost damage on 5 disk drive since they are kinda same. So i will have like 3k attack like that.
@hituyasi Yeah I'm thinking of doing that too since I have way more ATK% disks than Ice Dmg. Anyways thx a lot for the insight. I just realized how much I didn't do enough research on my main before the video 😅
@MisterTheTone (bruh why in mobile old youtube client it doesn't ping) one problem found : slightly overcapping CR%
@MisterTheT I thought you had M2? You overcap crit rate, no?
What song starts at 2:19?
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not showing final stats bruh, and why are upset getting atk% rolls? after 80% crit rate the main stats that you should prioritise are the crit dmg and atk%(crit rate(up to 80%)>crit dmg=atk%>pen)
I think I might be considered lucky. Cause from my experience I thought you would get 1-3 god pieces. I get 2 from ~5,5k and thought it was unlucky. At least here you have variations in artifact. I remember in HSR I spent ~6k resin (I really can't remember how this stuff called in every game, so I just call it resin) and have no god pieces. And what is worse not all pieces were good. I only had 4 good and 2 temporary pieces. Worst mihoyo game in term of grinding.
Idk, I haven't played any other Hoyoverse games except early Genshin and in this game you can't really have a piece of another random set that has good stats on it like you can sometimes in genshin. I personally think its as bad as the others but its debatable and I haven't really played a lot of Hoyoverse games. And honestly, in all the games its still very hard to have good sets. Hope your luck gets better thought🙌
Good content bruh but this is how players will uninstall the game lol don't go for god discs people
Crit rate 504 in the thumbnail.....tf bruh?
did you actually think that was real 😭
Yahhh you can only have 5 rolls max, it was an exaggeration. lol
@Harum4sa nah i fr thought it was real 😂
@MisterTheT yeah
Best i could get is 84%/109% not the best but meh
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