I have the M1 16 GB RAM 256 SSD...it's about 4 years old. While I don't really need to upgrade I was considering the M4 Pro at some point. Figured I'd spend the extra cash and future proof...shouldn't need an "upgrade" for 6-7 years. Realistically, I'd probably be fine with the base model, but I can afford the upgrade, so why not. P.S. the Apple keyboard and mouse are terrible...overpriced junk.
This was the first video that I watched with a direct comparison between the two models. This was very helpful. Really looking forward to getting my M4 Pro in a couple of weeks and saying goodbye to the M2 Pro that I used daily.
But he is lying, he said expand the ssd not the ram, but, is preferred if you expand the ram from factory, because after you can’t upgrade the ram, but the ssd on this Mac mini is removable so in future you can upgrade more cheapest 😁😉
@@BrandonButch appreciate the response. Your channel has been my favorite since I made the full switch over to Apple. I did look at a Max Studio before settling on the M2 mini, so I am excited.
Please please do a comparison between M3 PRO vs M4 Base. Both Macbooks are now same price (atleast here in Canada) but nobody is talking about which is better performance wise. Thanks!
I replaced my MacBook pro 16 inch M2 Max and orderer a base mini m4 with 24gb and 512. Gonna play with it for a year and then go for a bigger upgrade. I’m sceptic about the cooling in the pro especially the 14core
is it a must to have a apple display when using the Mac minis because I am thinking of switching from my pc to a Mac mini but don't want to spend like 1500 for a display...
as a photographer who deals with z9 files. this is one of the best machines I have ever bought. its insane how such a tiny machine can be so god damn powerful. its eats my files for breakfast. I got the default m4 pro. applying filters in camera raw never been so easy like it is on this one.. i have a slightly outdated pc but with 10900k and Nvidia 2080ti and 64 gb of ram and it literally lags in camera raw. my first time noticing how good the apple m was when I got the MacBook M1 Pro and it just smoked my pc in photoshop .. best purchase I ever made. extremely happy with this one.
The power button placement being the most controversial means it’s an amazing product. If it’s such a big deal turn it on its side. How has nobody mentioned that???
@@RichardServello 🤣 people have to find SOMETHING wrong with every product. Like you said, if that’s what the controversy is over, the product must be great
You can program your Mac(stop, boot, turn off) in the energy saving options… it consumes less than 6 watts(a little power brick) in standby, it’s meant for never been turned off like a server
@@KevinZKe almost nobody buying a base machine will need more than 16GB RAM. Those people should just get an M4 Pro if so. At least with 512GB of storage, you’ll see real benefits daily (not having to remove files).
@@BrandonButch Except for those of us doing music production with a thousand huge sample libraries loaded into RAM at once. The Pro Mini with extra ram is 100% why I would upgrade to this machine in the first place.
@@Just_DonovanJ Just upgrade the base model to 32 GB Ram, you are not going to notice the extra 2 cores, of CPU and extra 6 cores of GPU in an audio workflow, Audio has nowhere near the compute requirements that a video editing workflow needs. With a thunderbolt 4 m.2 external SSD Chassis, you can buy top tier internal storage drives for cheap, and swap them into the chassis as necessary if you need to record multitracks on a project to project basis... Loading every sample-pack you own when you load your DAW is not exactly how an audio workflow works, they will be kept on SSD/HDD storage, and only taken into volatile memory(Ram) if they exist in your project. If you are producing electronic sample based music, Ram wont neccesarily be your biggest issue, but it might be a problem if you are recording a bands multitrack at 192khz sample rate. Also, if your computer is struggling at present, realistically you dont need to work at any more than 48khz (sampling rate frequency encompasses 0-24khz which goes beyond human hearing) and 24bit bitdepth (Encompasses total amplitude of the signal) this rate is capable of a noise floor of -146 dB up to 0 dBFS which is more than enough dynamic range.
The best video I’ve seen so far and I watch a lot of videos on the Mac mini, M4 and the comparison with the M4 Pro. I bought the base model and I wanted to see what the comparisons were and thank you for the detailed video.
I have a 32GB RAM M2 Pro Mac Mini that I'm looking to keep for awhile. I certainly don't need to update but I'm happy to see all the excitement Mac mini is generating. I had the last Intel Mac mini and that was straight up trash and I felt like Apple didn't give Mac mini enough attention... I love my M2 Mac mini and I'm looking forward to my next Mac mini whatever it might be...
I bought one on accident because it had the Black exterior and I specifically told the Apple Store guy NOT to give me Intel. Luckily, I caught on in time. I returned it for a M1 MacMini some years ago but swapped back for the MacBook Pro M1 which I'm still using and it has NEVER let me down. :D
Thanks for a solid comparison. Other RUclipsrs picked up the base model, and say it's so fast they can't see why anybody would need an M4 Pro. You on the other hand, did the tests, ran the benchmarks, and proved that there actually is a reason to get a Pro for some tasks. The SSD is faster, OpenCL is way faster, Cinebench too - I mean it's overall looking like a 30-40% advantage.
i just received mine today. Upgraded from an old 2015 intel imac. Went with 24 GB RAM on the standard M4. I’m happy! The CPU performance is amazing in Final Cut Pro and Topaz GigaPixel AI. The M4 Pro cpu is overkill, the regular M4 is way more than enough even for technical workstation audio/video use.
@TransCanadaPhil Phil I don't use Final Cut Pro(yet) I use Davinci resolve studio version and I am moving towards the Apple ecosystem (Windows 11 currently) and the mini m4 will be my second Apple device after my iPhone 13 Pro Max. Do you think that the base model would be sufficient for Davinci, If you know? Right now I don't do much HIGH graphic/effects intensive stuff but I do shoot at 4K 30 FPS
@Thanks! I try to provide practical advice. Often I find online reviewers are too “spend happy” and come from a perspective of journalists that either got the product for free or are just too “upper middle class” in their assessment of value; thinking nothing of how much things cost!
Great video! I am moving from 2017 iMac 5k 1TB to a Mac mini m4 with 1TB. What other external hard drive you recommend for more storage regarding music and movies. Please let me know it will be a great help.
People writing think pieces on Reddit about the power button placement will never not be ridiculous lol. You can blow this little thing over to hit the switch.
An M4 with 32GB memory and 1TB SSD is $1399, the same as an M4 Pro with 24GB and 1TB SSD. So, which do you get? This is what drives me crazy about Apple. If you're not careful you either go through "analysis paralysis", or blow your budget on options. But before we get too hung up on pricing let's remember that the first Mac sold for $2495 in 1984 or about $7500 in today's money. An M4 Pro with 64GB of memory, 8TB SSD and 10GB Ethernet is $4700. Even today (and with all Apple's manipulations) that's a lot of tech for the money.
Hey! I noticed the color grading is pushing the reds a bit too far - the Mac mini box looks pinkish and hands appear reddish in some shots. A quick tip: try checking your video on different screens before uploading, and maybe dial back the red saturation in your color grade. This will help keep skin tones natural and product colors accurate. Keep creating! 👍
Thanks for the tip! This is the color grade I use in all software videos, so it must work better on screens versus physical products. I'll adjust it moving forward, appreciate it
The M4 Pro has a media engine, which explains the export being less than half. Which is actually close to M3, M2 and M1 Pro. They all rely on the same media engine. Where you see another 2x speed increase is with the Max (2 engines) and most likely another 2x increase with the Ultra
@Brandon Butch You said around time 15:15 "if you are going to spend the extra money and upgrade something, upgrade the storage and not the ram, because again I think 16 gigs is going to be good enough" Ideally, the user should select to upgrade the RAM when choosing which Mac Mini they select from Apple. I have seen a tear down video of the Mac Mini M4 and it was shown that the storage is replaceable.
99% of people buying a base model machine will not need more than 16GB and they most definitely will not be DIYing an internal upgrade. So I stand by my opinion
@@Hardening1552 "Not as easy unfortunately - yes you can take out the drive, but the controller is on the CPU so conventional SSD's will not work." I'm not sure your statement is completely true, but if the storage is locked down with the CPU then the Mac Mini is as broken as the previous Macbook Pro where the storage failed and the laptop won't even turn on. The only way to fix the laptop is to have Apple fix it but it will cost more than the laptop is worth at that point. Essentially, the New Mac Mini and the Macbook Pro are throwaway products if Apple is the only one able to fix it due to the cost or hassle to fix the issue.
@@NuclearEcko954 your average consumer buying a base level machine won’t be doing much with AI outside of Apple Intelligence, which 16GB is more than sufficient enough for. It doesn’t use much RAM in my 2+ months of testing (including 15.2)
I was overjoyed when the M4 Minis were announced. I replaced my M1 Mini with the base model M4 Mini then I replaced my M2 Mini with the M4 Pro 24/512. Trade in values were a bit more than I expected plus I leveraged my Apple employee discount to purchase both for the price of 1 entry-level MacBook Pro. Both Minis rock 🔥🔥🔥🔥.
I heard that the M4 Pro was louder than the M4 and that the fan turned on more because it was making more effort with the same casing and materials. In your video I understood the opposite, that the M4 gets hotter and the fan turns on more because it requires more effort. Could you comment on this subject, the sound of the fan of one and the other and clarify which would be more annoying in that aspect? Thank you very much in advance and for all the reviews you make. Greetings
Thanks for sharing this very helpful and informative video .... initially I was indecisive on M4 vs M4 Pro, but after watching your video, I will go for the M4 Pro MacBook Pro with its 24GB ram and 512GB SSD, seeing that I would be using this new laptop for the next 3 to 5 years
This a great review. I have a 8c/16t 5800H in a Beelink miniPC which came with 32GB DDR4 RAM and 512GB NVMe. The cost $300 USD a little over a year ago. My CB R23 score was10158/1284 and Speedometer 3.0 score was 21.4. It came with Windows 11 Pro but I use a Mint Linux VM as the daily driver. I just added this as a reference point to adorn the review.
Man am I glad I watched this. Wife is a creative director/designer. Has all of Adobe suite open daily. Based on MKBHDs review of the base model, I thought that might cover the new computer we need to replace for her (company reimbursable). Glad I watched this too. The pro base model with 10 gigabit internet too is the way to go for her (we have AT&T 5 gb fiber internet)
About the 5 gigabit internet: almost all Internet providers give people a device with 4 to 5 gigabit connections, thinking that 5 people @ gigabit or max 2.5 gigabit will saturate the 5 gigabit Internet connection, not that one may use it fully. 10 gigabit is great if you have a switch and use it together with a fast NAS and Internet connection.
Great video buddy and it’s been really helpful. In the end, I’ve gone for the M4 24 GB of RAM 512 GB to replace my M1 Ultra 32 GB RAM Mac Studio which is always been a bit overkill because I am just a semipro. Funny thing is the resale price of my studio means I should get some money back, which is crazy and still have a high-performing machine.
The real question is is, when do you actually turn On/Off your Mac? I've had a Mini M2 Pro since a little after it came out and I've never used the power button to turn it off.
@@normandyeuropayeah but usually you just go to the apple menu and choose shut down. Otherwise i never shut off my mac is just auto sleeps when i walk away for a few min then I wake it up with either the keyboard or mouse.
Thank you. Very useful video Brendan. I am soon to purchase the m4 mini pro. I was intending to upgrade to 1tb storage but would you recommend keeping the storage at 512 gb and buying an external hard drive? If so, could you recommend one please 🙏
Great comparison! Good to see the difference between the M4, and M4 Pro. One question. What codec were you exporting the FCP ProRes to?? And what was the file size of the exported video??
Thank you sr. I was waiting for this comparison! With all that said. I will go for the base m4 model. I ordered both to compare them but now after watching your video is all clear!
I’m just a spring chicken. All my computers always ran on a MS platform and the MP4 Pro will be my first Apple (phones and tablets excluded). I hope this works out.
Why bother, just use the tools you like, and let others enjoy the tools they like.... Too much effort otherwise. All systems of any variety (Not just computer hardware and OS) have pros and cons.
@@beamilzI have an 8 year old intel mbp that I still use daily. A couple years back I cleaned out the fans, replaced the battery, and upgraded the drive to 2tb. Looking to upgrade to a mac mini cause the old mbp chokes in flstudio if I use more than 4 tracks now. It gets worse every os update.
I'm a bit worried about people getting scammed in the future if these are resold. No way for consumers to tell between M4 base and M4 Pro until they are turning it on.
It's always interesting that none of the influencers really have the music industry on their radar, which works a lot on Apple. I only ever hear about graphics editing and video editing. I think it is simply underestimated how many small music producers, so-called bedroom musicians, there are who use Apple.
Okay, this is the video that answered all my questions about the big difference between the chips. My M1 Pro from Apple is still worth $705, I can get the base model for basically nothing out of pocket. Thanks Brandon for this one.
Brandon, great video! I have to admit I’m mostly curious about the RAM performance difference, ie 16 vs 24 in the two models. Any chance you’ll do a test on those two machines? Thanks!
Here’s why I’m getting it. I am a windows person through and through but love ios. Well after 25 years of computering I’d like another OS to be able to do ANYTHING between my set ups AND for just 600 bucks?! First Mac coming tomorrow!!!
True as long as you purchase 512 SSD. 256 SSD is unusable for any modern computer, the moment you install any software, maybe 1 game, email, you will be over the 256 SSD and won't be able to install any more software as most software still requires components to be installed on your internal disk. If you sync your photos and videos from your phone, forget it.
Thanks for the video. It was really helpful! But I still have a question: Is an M4 Pro necessary if you’re only working in Xcode? I don’t do any video editing. I’m debating between the M4 and the M4 Pro.
Same, although I suspect RAM would make a much bigger difference than CPU. The only time I had a CPU bottleneck (mind you on a windows pc) was when using pycharm on a code base that was in the millions of lines of code. The CPU was always maxed out but it had an i7-1165G7 and the M4 is much more powerful.
For all the people whining about the power switch just place the mac mini on a small stand and boom it’s easily accessible without even being to lift it 🤷🏻♂️
Hello, great video, need advice to choose normal or pro, my question is for gaming (diablo 4 and world of warcraft) is worth the upgrade? i know is not a game machine but a realy want to leave windows.
This is a timely video since I'm undecided on which model to buy. I'll be looking forward to your future testing and user experience. I keep my Macs for a long time and don't upgrade until Apple drops their support of my machine. I'm leaning toward the basic Pro model as this point.
I am set on getting the M4 Pro Mac Mini with the higher processor and 1TB SSD, but I am torn between selecting 24 GB RAM or 64 GB RAM. I plan to use this machine primarily for Final Cut Pro for 4K video editing and Photoshop. Do you think I need to upgrade the RAM, or would 24 GB suffice for my needs and save me $600?
@ Cool to see a response from you! FYI the MacBook Air I have is the quasi-combustion engine 2017 model… 🤣🔥 hopefully that will change soon. I recently tried to stress-test my neighbor’s M1 Mac mini (16GB) and it’s shockingly powerful.
@@BrandonButch M4 IPad Pro + iPad Pro Magic Keyboard + Mac Mini M4 = MacOS on the portable iPad Pro’s tandem oled display = An insane mini setup.
great test man thanks for the video :D could you do another test with 512 ssd 16gig vs 24gig regular m4? i would like to see how the benchmark on these 2 models and also how the os handle the ram usage...
It would be pretty cool if the power button was the Apple logo, and possibly lit up white. Regardless the location on the bottom doesn’t bother me. Seems like a solid unit
The size of this thing is INSANE! Are you picking up an M4 Mac mini?
If i could afford it yes, but I’m broke :/
I did! I traded my Mac mini M2 for the base model M4 Mac mini. Loving the compact design and performance.
I bought one in India
I have the M1 16 GB RAM 256 SSD...it's about 4 years old. While I don't really need to upgrade I was considering the M4 Pro at some point. Figured I'd spend the extra cash and future proof...shouldn't need an "upgrade" for 6-7 years. Realistically, I'd probably be fine with the base model, but I can afford the upgrade, so why not.
P.S. the Apple keyboard and mouse are terrible...overpriced junk.
Just set my pro up today. I was worried about it working with my Samsung 57” odyssey 8k monitor and it works beautifully 🔥
Everyone is mistaken. The power button is not at the bottom; you are holding it upside down.
😂
Unironically I had to turn my Apple TV 4K upside down to prevent it from overheating
I thought the same, we can use it upside down and airflow will also improve
@@DhruvRed there’s no issue with airflow to begin with. Not so sure that would benefit you any
@@DhruvRed As the power-supply is located the top hat would most likely make things worse.
This was the first video that I watched with a direct comparison between the two models. This was very helpful. Really looking forward to getting my M4 Pro in a couple of weeks and saying goodbye to the M2 Pro that I used daily.
@@xx_sedah M4 Pro is insanely powerful.. enjoy it! it exports videos almost as quick as my $5k M1 Ultra Mac Studio lol
Can I buy your old M2 pro
But he is lying, he said expand the ssd not the ram, but, is preferred if you expand the ram from factory, because after you can’t upgrade the ram, but the ssd on this Mac mini is removable so in future you can upgrade more cheapest 😁😉
@@BrandonButch appreciate the response. Your channel has been my favorite since I made the full switch over to Apple. I did look at a Max Studio before settling on the M2 mini, so I am excited.
@@WeiChei It's already spoken for unfortunately.
I might replace my Mac Studio with the M4 Pro Mac mini tbh (until the next Mac Studio comes out) 👀
Please please do a comparison between M3 PRO vs M4 Base. Both Macbooks are now same price (atleast here in Canada) but nobody is talking about which is better performance wise. Thanks!
I was considering this too 👀👀👀
I replaced my MacBook pro 16 inch M2 Max and orderer a base mini m4 with 24gb and 512. Gonna play with it for a year and then go for a bigger upgrade. I’m sceptic about the cooling in the pro especially the 14core
Also considering the swapping out my Mac Studio M1max (base config w 2gb) for a mini pro - do you think that’s a decent performance upgrade?
is it a must to have a apple display when using the Mac minis because I am thinking of switching from my pc to a Mac mini but don't want to spend like 1500 for a display...
as a photographer who deals with z9 files. this is one of the best machines I have ever bought. its insane how such a tiny machine can be so god damn powerful. its eats my files for breakfast. I got the default m4 pro. applying filters in camera raw never been so easy like it is on this one.. i have a slightly outdated pc but with 10900k and Nvidia 2080ti and 64 gb of ram and it literally lags in camera raw. my first time noticing how good the apple m was when I got the MacBook M1 Pro and it just smoked my pc in photoshop .. best purchase I ever made. extremely happy with this one.
Fake review from fake account.
The power button placement being the most controversial means it’s an amazing product. If it’s such a big deal turn it on its side. How has nobody mentioned that???
@@RichardServello 🤣 people have to find SOMETHING wrong with every product. Like you said, if that’s what the controversy is over, the product must be great
YEAH lets just make it it taller instead over wider and call it small
@@chrispawlEven if it’s slightly taller it’s still much smaller what the hell are you talking about?
You can program your Mac(stop, boot, turn off) in the energy saving options… it consumes less than 6 watts(a little power brick) in standby, it’s meant for never been turned off like a server
Underrated comment.
If you want to upgrade, please select RAM instead of SSD. You can easily buy new external SSD after, but it's much harder to upgrade RAM
@@KevinZKe almost nobody buying a base machine will need more than 16GB RAM. Those people should just get an M4 Pro if so.
At least with 512GB of storage, you’ll see real benefits daily (not having to remove files).
"much harder to upgrade ram" I believe it is impossible on the mac mini to ever do it.
@@BenWeatherhead-f3ghaha yep! Big difference between tough to upgrade and impossible to upgrade!😮😅
@@BrandonButch Except for those of us doing music production with a thousand huge sample libraries loaded into RAM at once. The Pro Mini with extra ram is 100% why I would upgrade to this machine in the first place.
@@Just_DonovanJ Just upgrade the base model to 32 GB Ram, you are not going to notice the extra 2 cores, of CPU and extra 6 cores of GPU in an audio workflow, Audio has nowhere near the compute requirements that a video editing workflow needs.
With a thunderbolt 4 m.2 external SSD Chassis, you can buy top tier internal storage drives for cheap, and swap them into the chassis as necessary if you need to record multitracks on a project to project basis...
Loading every sample-pack you own when you load your DAW is not exactly how an audio workflow works, they will be kept on SSD/HDD storage, and only taken into volatile memory(Ram) if they exist in your project.
If you are producing electronic sample based music, Ram wont neccesarily be your biggest issue, but it might be a problem if you are recording a bands multitrack at 192khz sample rate.
Also, if your computer is struggling at present, realistically you dont need to work at any more than 48khz (sampling rate frequency encompasses 0-24khz which goes beyond human hearing) and 24bit bitdepth (Encompasses total amplitude of the signal) this rate is capable of a noise floor of -146 dB up to 0 dBFS which is more than enough dynamic range.
The best video I’ve seen so far and I watch a lot of videos on the Mac mini, M4 and the comparison with the M4 Pro. I bought the base model and I wanted to see what the comparisons were and thank you for the detailed video.
@@gves2 thanks!! Glad it was useful. Enjoy your new mini!
Pretty sure Around 13:20 you made a mistake. M4 Pro should be faster to transfer.
Lol yes. Thank you
@@BrandonButch I didn't even realise until htis comment, well spotted, lol....
One of the best video I've seen on the mac mini. Great job !
I have a 32GB RAM M2 Pro Mac Mini that I'm looking to keep for awhile. I certainly don't need to update but I'm happy to see all the excitement Mac mini is generating. I had the last Intel Mac mini and that was straight up trash and I felt like Apple didn't give Mac mini enough attention... I love my M2 Mac mini and I'm looking forward to my next Mac mini whatever it might be...
I bought one on accident because it had the Black exterior and I specifically told the Apple Store guy NOT to give me Intel. Luckily, I caught on in time. I returned it for a M1 MacMini some years ago but swapped back for the MacBook Pro M1 which I'm still using and it has NEVER let me down. :D
Thanks for a solid comparison. Other RUclipsrs picked up the base model, and say it's so fast they can't see why anybody would need an M4 Pro. You on the other hand, did the tests, ran the benchmarks, and proved that there actually is a reason to get a Pro for some tasks. The SSD is faster, OpenCL is way faster, Cinebench too - I mean it's overall looking like a 30-40% advantage.
i just received mine today. Upgraded from an old 2015 intel imac. Went with 24 GB RAM on the standard M4. I’m happy! The CPU performance is amazing in Final Cut Pro and Topaz GigaPixel AI. The M4 Pro cpu is overkill, the regular M4 is way more than enough even for technical workstation audio/video use.
@TransCanadaPhil Phil I don't use Final Cut Pro(yet) I use Davinci resolve studio version and I am moving towards the Apple ecosystem (Windows 11 currently) and the mini m4 will be my second Apple device after my iPhone 13 Pro Max. Do you think that the base model would be sufficient for Davinci, If you know? Right now I don't do much HIGH graphic/effects intensive stuff but I do shoot at 4K 30 FPS
@ i would go with at least 24GB of RAM for any sort of 4k video editing
I am in the same boat, I have a 2015 27 inch 5k mac, will update next year with the mac mini or studio and apple display
@@TransCanadaPhil just order the M4Pro 24GB 512 drive and magic keyboard... see what happens... thanks for the feedback.
@Thanks! I try to provide practical advice. Often I find online reviewers are too “spend happy” and come from a perspective of journalists that either got the product for free or are just too “upper middle class” in their assessment of value; thinking nothing of how much things cost!
Great video! I am moving from 2017 iMac 5k 1TB to a Mac mini m4 with 1TB. What other external hard drive you recommend for more storage regarding music and movies. Please let me know it will be a great help.
Thank you! This is so helpful. I’ve been wanting people to make a comparison video on these. ❤
@@m.hreels9822 glad it was helpful!! Appreciate you watching
That thing is small but packs insane performance. Nice review Brandon!
What would you say would be the best non apple monitor to run these new mac minis on?
I got the M4 Pro 1 TB and maxed the cpu/gpu and maxed the ram :)
The differences between the M4 and the M4 Pro are actually mind-boggling. On that note, I picked up an M4 iMac.
This review was great...with the M4 and M4 pro base models...looking forward to more testing and reviews on your channel...💯👍
The review I’ve been waiting for!! Very good info!
People writing think pieces on Reddit about the power button placement will never not be ridiculous lol. You can blow this little thing over to hit the switch.
An M4 with 32GB memory and 1TB SSD is $1399, the same as an M4 Pro with 24GB and 1TB SSD. So, which do you get? This is what drives me crazy about Apple. If you're not careful you either go through "analysis paralysis", or blow your budget on options. But before we get too hung up on pricing let's remember that the first Mac sold for $2495 in 1984 or about $7500 in today's money. An M4 Pro with 64GB of memory, 8TB SSD and 10GB Ethernet is $4700. Even today (and with all Apple's manipulations) that's a lot of tech for the money.
Great video. Especially the FCP export. Just wondering if you used the front ports to import your video data from an SD card?
Hey! I noticed the color grading is pushing the reds a bit too far - the Mac mini box looks pinkish and hands appear reddish in some shots. A quick tip: try checking your video on different screens before uploading, and maybe dial back the red saturation in your color grade. This will help keep skin tones natural and product colors accurate. Keep creating! 👍
Thanks for the tip! This is the color grade I use in all software videos, so it must work better on screens versus physical products. I'll adjust it moving forward, appreciate it
It could just be my phone's display settings but the red tint was the first thing I noticed when I started the video. Just chiming in
The comparison I’ve been waiting for. Thanks.
I love your videos. They are presented in such a logical and informative flow. You are among the best on You Tube.
The M4 Pro has a media engine, which explains the export being less than half. Which is actually close to M3, M2 and M1 Pro. They all rely on the same media engine.
Where you see another 2x speed increase is with the Max (2 engines) and most likely another 2x increase with the Ultra
Nice video! You mentioned running everything from an External. Are you suggesting to install your apps to the external and run them from there?
@Brandon Butch
You said around time 15:15 "if you are going to spend the extra money and upgrade something, upgrade the storage and not the ram, because again I think 16 gigs is going to be good enough"
Ideally, the user should select to upgrade the RAM when choosing which Mac Mini they select from Apple. I have seen a tear down video of the Mac Mini M4 and it was shown that the storage is replaceable.
Not as easy unfortunately - yes you can take out the drive, but the controller is on the CPU so conventional SSD's will not work.
99% of people buying a base model machine will not need more than 16GB and they most definitely will not be DIYing an internal upgrade. So I stand by my opinion
@@Hardening1552 "Not as easy unfortunately - yes you can take out the drive, but the controller is on the CPU so conventional SSD's will not work."
I'm not sure your statement is completely true, but if the storage is locked down with the CPU then the Mac Mini is as broken as the previous Macbook Pro where the storage failed and the laptop won't even turn on. The only way to fix the laptop is to have Apple fix it but it will cost more than the laptop is worth at that point. Essentially, the New Mac Mini and the Macbook Pro are throwaway products if Apple is the only one able to fix it due to the cost or hassle to fix the issue.
@@BrandonButch I think you have to account for AI taking up RAM, I think that's why Apple increased the RAM in this generation of Mac computers.
@@NuclearEcko954 your average consumer buying a base level machine won’t be doing much with AI outside of Apple Intelligence, which 16GB is more than sufficient enough for. It doesn’t use much RAM in my 2+ months of testing (including 15.2)
I was overjoyed when the M4 Minis were announced. I replaced my M1 Mini with the base model M4 Mini then I replaced my M2 Mini with the M4 Pro 24/512. Trade in values were a bit more than I expected plus I leveraged my Apple employee discount to purchase both for the price of 1 entry-level MacBook Pro. Both Minis rock 🔥🔥🔥🔥.
Thanks for this super helpful comparison! Still can't decide though...
“Final Cut Pro Video Export Test” is exactly what I wanted to see 🔥
I heard that the M4 Pro was louder than the M4 and that the fan turned on more because it was making more effort with the same casing and materials. In your video I understood the opposite, that the M4 gets hotter and the fan turns on more because it requires more effort.
Could you comment on this subject, the sound of the fan of one and the other and clarify which would be more annoying in that aspect?
Thank you very much in advance and for all the reviews you make.
Greetings
He misspoke. The pro version has more compute, draw more power which in turn will require more cooling. Its never been the other way around.
The M4 has a single fan the M4 Pro has two fans. The M4 will be louder because of that.
Thanks for sharing this very helpful and informative video .... initially I was indecisive on M4 vs M4 Pro, but after watching your video, I will go for the M4 Pro MacBook Pro with its 24GB ram and 512GB SSD, seeing that I would be using this new laptop for the next 3 to 5 years
This a great review. I have a 8c/16t 5800H in a Beelink miniPC which came with 32GB DDR4 RAM and 512GB NVMe. The cost $300 USD a little over a year ago. My CB R23 score was10158/1284 and Speedometer 3.0 score was 21.4. It came with Windows 11 Pro but I use a Mint Linux VM as the daily driver. I just added this as a reference point to adorn the review.
May my Mac mini 512GB be here tomorrow. Went with the regular as I am not doing video editing etc. can’t wait
Man am I glad I watched this. Wife is a creative director/designer. Has all of Adobe suite open daily.
Based on MKBHDs review of the base model, I thought that might cover the new computer we need to replace for her (company reimbursable).
Glad I watched this too. The pro base model with 10 gigabit internet too is the way to go for her (we have AT&T 5 gb fiber internet)
About the 5 gigabit internet: almost all Internet providers give people a device with 4 to 5 gigabit connections, thinking that 5 people @ gigabit or max 2.5 gigabit will saturate the 5 gigabit Internet connection, not that one may use it fully.
10 gigabit is great if you have a switch and use it together with a fast NAS and Internet connection.
Great video buddy and it’s been really helpful. In the end, I’ve gone for the M4 24 GB of RAM 512 GB to replace my M1 Ultra 32 GB RAM Mac Studio which is always been a bit overkill because I am just a semipro. Funny thing is the resale price of my studio means I should get some money back, which is crazy and still have a high-performing machine.
Which is better if the two? Using HDMI to attach a monitor or thunderbolt?
Thunderbolt generally gives better results, hdmi is still great though 👍🏽
The real question is is, when do you actually turn On/Off your Mac? I've had a Mini M2 Pro since a little after it came out and I've never used the power button to turn it off.
When going out of town. that's literally it.
@@normandyeuropayeah but usually you just go to the apple menu and choose shut down. Otherwise i never shut off my mac
is just auto sleeps
when i walk away for a few min then I wake it up with either the keyboard or
mouse.
Thank you. Very useful video Brendan.
I am soon to purchase the m4 mini pro. I was intending to upgrade to 1tb storage but would you recommend keeping the storage at 512 gb and buying an external hard drive? If so, could you recommend one please 🙏
The base sounds great, but I’m worried about the RAM only being 16. Worth upgrading to 32 to help it last maybe longer?
Great comparison! Good to see the difference between the M4, and M4 Pro. One question. What codec were you exporting the FCP ProRes to?? And what was the file size of the exported video??
Thank you sr. I was waiting for this comparison! With all that said. I will go for the base m4 model. I ordered both to compare them but now after watching your video is all clear!
I got the base m4. Enough for my python programming needs
Thanks for this video 🎉🎉
thanks for watching my man
I would definitely 3d print a dock for the Mini if I got one just to make the power button a smidge easier to touch.
Yes I’m getting the M4 today!!!!!
Am I missing something or do you have the M4 / M4P reversed in the file transfer speed? Is the M4 faster than the M4P ?
very helpful video, thank you
Was waiting for this one!
Is the pro necessary to just run two tabs on a browser?
Haha not at all
I’m just a spring chicken. All my computers always ran on a MS platform and the MP4 Pro will be my first Apple (phones and tablets excluded). I hope this works out.
macOS is somewhat limiting but it’s getting better. I couldn’t live without Windows, so I have both.
What storage did you have in m4 and m4 pro computers?
Looking forward to receiving my M4 Pro Mini next week. It'll replace my 5 year old 27" Intel iMac.
Which one do you recommend for working in Archicad?
Thank you for reviewing the basic models!
For a Windows I hate Apple guy, I have to admit M4/Pro is a beast. I wouldn't have say this without this excellent review.
Why bother, just use the tools you like, and let others enjoy the tools they like.... Too much effort otherwise. All systems of any variety (Not just computer hardware and OS) have pros and cons.
No one cares if you hate Apple or love Windows.
Bro awesome comparison 🔥🔥
Getting the higher tier M4 Pro to replace my 2013 iMac. I hope to keep it for just as long :D
Me too
Wow!!! 10 years. Does it still work?
@@beamilz Just barely. I'm using it right now. On its latest OS... Catalina xD
Wow I have the same and upgraded RAM to 32GB but I still want to get the M4.
@@beamilzI have an 8 year old intel mbp that I still use daily. A couple years back I cleaned out the fans, replaced the battery, and upgraded the drive to 2tb. Looking to upgrade to a mac mini cause the old mbp chokes in flstudio if I use more than 4 tracks now. It gets worse every os update.
I have a powerful pc for work. I got the base m4. I use Mac for everything else. I just got mine set up. Can’t wait to dig into it.
Thank You for this Comparison video. After all I‘ll buy the M4 pro. From Germany with my best wishes for You. Eberhard ✨🙏👍
I'm a bit worried about people getting scammed in the future if these are resold. No way for consumers to tell between M4 base and M4 Pro until they are turning it on.
Serial number check
Huge respect for showing R23 single core results ❤
grande comparazione, complimenti veramente
It's always interesting that none of the influencers really have the music industry on their radar, which works a lot on Apple. I only ever hear about graphics editing and video editing. I think it is simply underestimated how many small music producers, so-called bedroom musicians, there are who use Apple.
8:17 the double press for secure connection on the keyboard is the same when they refreshed the iMacs.
Hey can you create a video on the best external ssds for the m4 mac mini ?
Okay, this is the video that answered all my questions about the big difference between the chips.
My M1 Pro from Apple is still worth $705, I can get the base model for basically nothing out of pocket. Thanks Brandon for this one.
Happy base M2 Pro user. Would be interesting to see the base M2 Pro vs the base M4 Pro.
Brandon, great video! I have to admit I’m mostly curious about the RAM performance difference, ie 16 vs 24 in the two models. Any chance you’ll do a test on those two machines? Thanks!
Here’s why I’m getting it. I am a windows person through and through but love ios. Well after 25 years of computering I’d like another OS to be able to do ANYTHING between my set ups AND for just 600 bucks?! First Mac coming tomorrow!!!
I would love to see a comparison between the original base model m1 with 16GB ram and the new m4. Especially for video editing
Choose memory over disk space. You can just connect an external drive.
True as long as you purchase 512 SSD. 256 SSD is unusable for any modern computer, the moment you install any software, maybe 1 game, email, you will be over the 256 SSD and won't be able to install any more software as most software still requires components to be installed on your internal disk. If you sync your photos and videos from your phone, forget it.
Thanks for the video. It was really helpful!
But I still have a question: Is an M4 Pro necessary if you’re only working in Xcode? I don’t do any video editing. I’m debating between the M4 and the M4 Pro.
Same, although I suspect RAM would make a much bigger difference than CPU. The only time I had a CPU bottleneck (mind you on a windows pc) was when using pycharm on a code base that was in the millions of lines of code. The CPU was always maxed out but it had an i7-1165G7 and the M4 is much more powerful.
did you get the 10gb ethernet
The Mac Mini is a compelling machine. I would love to see the same thing done for the imac.
Finally a base model M4 Mac Mini review
The next day at Amazon: Get your Mac Mini M4 used from Warehouse in best condition, box opened!😂
For all the people whining about the power switch just place the mac mini on a small stand and boom it’s easily accessible without even being to lift it 🤷🏻♂️
Great comparison!! Thank you🙏I think the base model is such a killer deal. Which is not something I'm used to saying with Apple products.
The power button to sync the keyboard is probably a security feature to ensure you don't remotely connect a keyboard.
Great job! Can you test the base Mac Mini vs the new iMac M4 16GB 500GB? Thank you.
thanks very helpful video. looking forward to the next 😇
Hello, great video, need advice to choose normal or pro, my question is for gaming (diablo 4 and world of warcraft) is worth the upgrade? i know is not a game machine but a realy want to leave windows.
I got a question. Do You need a wired accesories for initial setup (mouse, keyboard) ??
Yes, first time, if it’s not Apple Magic Keyboard.
This is a timely video since I'm undecided on which model to buy. I'll be looking forward to your future testing and user experience. I keep my Macs for a long time and don't upgrade until Apple drops their support of my machine. I'm leaning toward the basic Pro model as this point.
Excelent video, you make my decision easy.!!!
If only you had these when exporting your iOS 18 movie 😂
Are these new Minis faster than my 2018 Intel based Mac mini?
Great comparison video. Thanks 🙏
Fantastic review thank you!
Did you test model with same storage and Ram?
Very helpful!
I am set on getting the M4 Pro Mac Mini with the higher processor and 1TB SSD, but I am torn between selecting 24 GB RAM or 64 GB RAM. I plan to use this machine primarily for Final Cut Pro for 4K video editing and Photoshop. Do you think I need to upgrade the RAM, or would 24 GB suffice for my needs and save me $600?
If only there’s a way for me to use this with my MacBook Air’s display… then yes I would certainly buy one and carry it around in my backpack. 😂🍎🍏
Now that would be a cool setup 🤣. I can't wait to bring this with me on the road and use my Vision Pro as the display 👀
@ Cool to see a response from you! FYI the MacBook Air I have is the quasi-combustion engine 2017 model… 🤣🔥 hopefully that will change soon. I recently tried to stress-test my neighbor’s M1 Mac mini (16GB) and it’s shockingly powerful.
@@BrandonButch M4 IPad Pro + iPad Pro Magic Keyboard + Mac Mini M4 = MacOS on the portable iPad Pro’s tandem oled display = An insane mini setup.
great test man thanks for the video :D
could you do another test with 512 ssd 16gig vs 24gig regular m4? i would like to see how the benchmark on these 2 models and also how the os handle the ram usage...
It would be pretty cool if the power button was the Apple logo, and possibly lit up white. Regardless the location on the bottom doesn’t bother me. Seems like a solid unit
Brilliant test. Thanks!