I personally do not want to live with my bf before marriage just off the fact that that’s one thing i want to do under the covenant of marriage. Way too many couples are doing marriage things in relationships and labeling it as test driving in a sense. That’s one of the joys of marriage i assume, is discovering things abt your partner and learning to coexist. I feel like if you truly love that person, those slightly annoying ways that he/she lives can be compromised. Majority of the time, things like finding out if someone is messy, is discovered in the dating phase without having to sleepover each other’s places. But to each his own. God bless you both.
I couldn’t agree with you more. I’m married and chose to not move in with my husband until AFTER he was my husband. Shacking is not a clear ticket to marriage for most. Statistics suggest it’s the opposite.
Agreed to you miss, I getting to know with someone where he prefer to living in relationship first before decide for marriage... but I really love this guy but I don’t like his ideology of this ...
So if it made sense and you had confirmation from God, why not just get married?... You can work together, build and enjoy each other at any time you want to.
I’m waiting for marriage, I lived with a boyfriend prior to my current relationship and I told myself that I’m not living with another man until I am married. For me, I feel as though if you want me to live with you and do wifey things I need a ring. Personally, my last relationship I did all things wifey and we ended up breaking up not saying it’s all his fault but that’s how it ended. Granted it could be a maturity level and being in different stages of our lives. I experienced first hand what that was like and am not doing it again. My boyfriend are both strong believers in Christ and we believe that doing it Gods way. Besides, we are not rushing towards anything and we still have growing to do ourselves. God has already confirmed to me that he is my husband and to trust in His timing and all things will work together. I’m so happy and excited for you guys and I love your relationship and I see the blessings in your life. Bre, I love the Podcast.!!! I listen everyday and I have others listening as well so helpful and I enjoy it keep it up. Dre, my man I love it’s a word very helpful and always on time when I need it.
I think something that I would like to see y’all address in the next video is the role that cohabitation plays in waiting to marriage and maybe a little bit more from a biblical standpoint. The Bible does mention avoiding the appearance of sin and lustfulness which I can’t imagine doesn’t happen and naturally so. The Bible mentions that lusting is the equivalent of committing the act. Again, I think we understand your situation and I’m not judging but I would have liked a little more depth to the video
I personally don't agree with cohabitation. Its too much temptation. The flesh is too weak. I don't know what kind of "protocols" yall do to stay in check and stay waiting until marriage but I know for me I would have to pray even in my sleep if I was living with my fiance lol. The bible doesnt say "it's sin to cohabitate", but it does say flee temptation. If yall figured that out kudos to yall! God bless yall and I love yall!
Godsmylove the bible was written by Romans, not Jesus. The catholics found Jesus’s original teachings and then tried to destroy them because they went against the Church.
Unlike some of the other “christians” on here, I love how you made it clear the Bible does not say anything about cohabitation. Living together before marriage does not condemn you to hell. It is a PERSONAL choice! So many have turned away from the church and Christianity because they have become synonymous with judgment. But the highest commandment is LOVE and the Bible says specifically to judge NOT lest ye be judged. So thank you for being authentic, genuine humans who love God and are transparent in your relationship. I pray God blesses your marriage and from your union greatness is produced!
The Bible calls this an *eternal* issue that leads to *hell* mentioned in 1 Corinthians 6:9-10. "Or *do you not know* that the unrighteous *will not inherit the kingdom of God* ? *Do not* be deceived; *neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals* , nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, *will inherit the kingdom of God* . Misleading other people Bible also says puts blood on our hands (Isaiah 33:1-33; Isaiah 1:15; Leviticus 20:13; Acts 20: 26-31; Acts 18:6; Isaiah 59:3), so DON'T ever assume it's not in there- KNOW the Word and read it every day. "In Him we live and breathe and have our being." (Acts 17:28) " *This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth* ; but *thou shalt meditate therein day and night* , that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt *make thy way prosperous* , and then thou shalt have *good success* ." (Joshua 1:8) God not only disagrees with this RUclips, it's God Himself who says the consequence is *hell* . Who wants an eternal shock factor? None of us created the world, so *none of us* (including myself) create the rules. God does *and* He's smarter. The wages (like a paycheck) of *all sin is eternal death* in hell, but the gift of God is eternal life.
I love how y'all are leaving it open for people to look within themselves to judge from their situations and where they are at with God regarding this issue. Love you guys!🤗 I watch from Kenya 🇰🇪 by the way!☺️☺️☺️☺️
I understand your justification, but as a discerning Christian, in love I have to disagree. As a Believer in Christ, we must learn to trust the sovereignty of God in ALL things. It sounded like y’all started on that path (no sex b4 marriage) and have amended it to meet personal goals. God graciously gives us a free-will and as you said this decision is “your journey”, but it’s not His. Jesus died for all of our sins (omission and commission) and He will forgive. However, at some point we have to ask ourselves with the knowledge we have of Christ’s sacrifice am I trampling upon God’s grace? How does my decision advance God’s kingdom? As you mature in the faith, I pray you use your platform to be salt and light cause many are watching.
Im just now getting around to watching this after it’s been in my “watch later” for two weeks, lol. Anyways lol, i guess for me hearing you both talking about this topic is rather interesting to hear yall’s perspective and why you do live together. Yet, it’s troubling for me, as a Believer, and a subscriber of you guys’ channel to believe that you guys are saving yourselves for marriage especially since you live in the same space. Secondly, because you both have to shower and change, and all in between. & the Bible does talk about cohabitation, everyone has listed tons of scriptures on it and there’s plenty more, so i won’t go into that. Another thing, how do you go about not allowing your attraction for the other person to cause you to slip up? I feel like it’s a heart thing (Jeremiah 17:9). Not saying yalls hearts are making us (your viewers/subscribers) stumble, however, in a sense if someone was/is new to the faith or came across a few of yalls videos it could be misleading to them. Just my perspective. Also, since you both are saying that you have to have strong self control, which is totally factual and vital, but saying that you’d have to live together before marrying them is playing “house” without the titles of “husband” and “wife”. I feel like you can find out all the kinks, and expectations of the other person when you don’t live together/when you’re courting. You’ll be able to learn all of that in marriage instead of just fiancés. Also, just because God gives you confirmation on who you’re supposed to marry doesn’t mean you should move in with them (Song of Solomon 8:4) because sexual sin is a slippery slope that we as humans could fall down anytime. In the same token, how do you guys abstain from sexual urges that happen? For clarification, this is all out of love. I pray God continues to help you guys abstain and everything you both do is acceptable in His sight. Much love 😁❤️
I say pray about it and ask God for a clear answer on this, I truly believe you’re leading your viewers astray in this aspect. In the book of Genesis it says “Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.” Genesis 2:24 NKJV To physically move in and live together with your boyfriend or girlfriend is outside of God's design, and that is what makes it an error. God designed here in Genesis 2 that a man will leave his parents and be joined to “his wife” as “one flesh”. Living with your boyfriend or girlfriend makes it appears as if you two are “one flesh”. How so? Because both people have left your separateness to live and be together as a couple “as “one”. A couple living together is a component reserved only for God's design in marriage. Also you said you prefer people to not judge you and that they actually have no right to judge, however the word says that we are to judge with righteous judgment John 7-24. ““Judge not, that you be not judged. For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you.” Matthew 7:1-2 NKJV Here it’s saying that I will be judged in the same manner that I judged you. We are warned against making judgments in a hypocritical manner. We are to judge ourselves first before making judgments about others.
@@erickabaldwin7920 hey love, there’s a difference in knowing and not knowing. There’s intentionally sinning and then going on about your day not knowing and fully understanding your sin. There’s Grace.. the cross.
Thanks so much, may be you can address how you walked in purity while living together and the measures you put in place from your own experience in another video, that would be eye opening..Watching from Kenya
My bf and I are both christian but he thinks it's risky to wait until marriage to live together because there's so much to discover then... But I trust in God...
It’d be nice if you all could expound on how you’re staying pure while cohabitating. I’m interested & im sure it would be helpful for other viewers...Cause we know the spirit is willing but chile, the flesh is weak lol. Love y’all’s videos!
Thank y'all for addressing this, even though you certainly didn't have to. Yes the Bible does say to avoid the appearance of sin but because y'all have always been very transparent about why y'all lived together and your celibacy journey (I mean, y'all are RUclipsrs lol), I really feel like there was no appearance of sin. Just like with everything, you should use common sense. If you know you're both easily tempted then obviously living together isn't the move.
Rahma Ziyad so agree! Also being raised around Christianity I’ve seen many couple get married because they can’t avoid temptation and they just really want to have sex and take their relationship to the next level in that aspect. Their marriage will be solid because they already have a solid and open communication and Strength BEFORE marriage. They’re already committed to each other without needing to be married
I understand what you all are saying but God is a God of order and this backwards. You guys kept saying how things would have been tough if you would’ve taken a different route but how do you know that? You say Bre’s business wouldn’t have done well but how do you really know that?? It seems like instead of seeking God for His guidance & provision you all chose to depend on one another instead of allowing God to do what He does best. I know from experience that God will move mountains to take care of His children if we allow Him to. You talked about Bre not being able to manage money & not being in a good financial position but instead of allowing God to give her wisdom with handling finances & take care of her you took it upon yourself to make things “easier.” It was a whole lot of “I” & “We” but what about God? Our first thought regarding anything we do should be does this decision honor God? Or how does this bring glory to God?? Not living together before marriage goes far beyond not putting yourself into tempting situations to have premarital sex. It’s so God can develop and mature and prepare two people separately for marriage. It’s to position us spiritually and mentally for the role as husband and wife. In my preparation God has shown me how marriage is so much deeper than we make it. It’s really a covenant between God, husband and wife. I pray you both will take some time to truly seek God on this. Preferably separately so you can hear God clearly & not be influenced by one another.
I've always told my mom who is a leader in the church, that I want to live with my significant other before marriage and she's always been against the idea. Now I'm with the guy that I have no doubt in my heart about and he has expressed wanting us to live together without even knowing that I wanted the same thing. I have my reasons for wanting this tho. I believe living together allows you to see if you're willing to deal with how your significant other is and you get to grow and learn each other more. Plus, it's always been a big deal for me to live together because I have a health condition called Sickle Cell Disease and it's important that my bf sees and learns with first hand experience, if something happens. My family not gonna be there all my life....this is the person I plan to share my life with so, I think there are a number of factors in making this decision to live together. People of the church will have an issue with this because of tradition or because they knew at your age they were weak. You have to know yourself in waiting.
One thing I have to note is that there are a lot of females that hate the idea of living separately while dating and I think that boils down to trust issues.
I think as a Christian the decision is between the couple and God. We have the Holy Spirit dwelling in us to guide us. So if God is not pleased with something you will feel convicted. Some people want to list a ton of scriptures about why you should not and because people will think you’re having sex. But at the end of the day God knows what you’re doing. They’re people that are not co-habituating that are fornicating. I think you have to contemplate what pleases God and how your relationship can glorify God. None of us should do some because a couple on RUclips that we don’t even know are doing it. Well one couple may be able to withstand temptation other couples may not be that strong.
The only problem with this is that you can end up encouraging weaker brothers. This means you will be a stumbling block for others. Also we wouldn't be fleeing temptation nor abstaining from appearances of evil. It's not specifically mentioned in the Bible because it was NEVER ever done. So biblically it was NEVER a normalised acceptable practise.
What have them confused is because they are not seein a direct bible verse sayin "u shouldn't live together before marriage" but if people would have Understanding and try to be Wise when reading the bible things would work out better for them.
Like y'all and I am glad that both of U are spreading info that would get/put ppl on track when it comes to relationships/marriages BUT on the other hand I don't want Y'all confuse yourselves and people, Now in the Bible it does not speaks to a lot of things direct But there are principles that God want Us as Christians to live by example ( the bible don't speaks to Christians not working in a Stripe Club But as a Christian u shouldn't cause the bible speaks to separating yourself from evil doings) 1 Thessalonians 5:21-22 Examine all things; retain that which is good. Separate yourselves from all appearance of evil. 1st Corinthians 7:2, “Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.” 1st Corinthians 6:18, “Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.” Bible verses about shacking up Plain and simple Christians should not be shacking up. If Jesus was in front of your face you would not tell Him, “well I’m thinking about moving in with my girlfriend.” We are not here to do what we want to do and we’re not here to be like the world. You and I know moving in with the opposite sex would not please Christ even if you were not doing anything sexually. You can’t justify yourself, God knows the heart. You can’t say, “we need to see if we’re compatible, we need to save money, I love him/her, he’s going to leave me, we are not going to have sex.” In some type of way you will fall. Stop trusting in your mind and trust in the Lord. The mind wants to be tempted by sin. Look at the negative appearance you will give others. Most people are going to think “they’re having sex.” People weak in faith will say, “if they can do it I can do it as well.” Christians are not to live like others. Unbelievers move in with each other, but Christians wait until they’re married. The worst thing you can do is try to justify yourself. Do all things for the glory of God and don’t make excuses for the reasons you are thinking about doing this. You are not glorifying God and you are giving a bad impression to others. If you are planning to have premarital sex you must know Christians can’t live a willful sinful lifestyle. You say, “but I always hear about Christians having premarital sex.” The reason for that is most people who call themselves Christians in America are not truly Christians and never truly accepted Christ. Christianity in America is a joke. Do what God wants you to do and you know He wouldn’t put you in a situation to sin. What does the Bible say? 1. 1 Thessalonians 5:21-22 Examine all things; retain that which is good. Separate yourselves from all appearance of evil. 2. Romans 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God. 3. Ephesians 5:17 Don’t act thoughtlessly, but understand what the Lord wants you to do. 4. Ephesians 5:8-10 For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Live as children of light (for the fruit of the light consists in all goodness, righteousness and truth) and find out what pleases the Lord. 5. Ephesians 5:1 Therefore be imitators of God, as beloved children. 6. 1 Corinthians 7:9 But if they can’t control themselves, they should go ahead and marry. It’s better to marry than to burn with lust. 7. Colossians 3:10 and have put on the new self, which is being renewed in knowledge after the image of its creator. Not even a hint of sexual immorality. 8. Hebrews 13:4 Let marriage be kept honorable in every way, and the marriage bed undefiled. For God will judge those who commit sexual sins, especially those who commit adultery. 9. Ephesians 5:3-5 But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God’s holy people. Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving. For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person-such a person is an idolater-has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. 10. 1 Thessalonians 4:3 For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication. 11. 1 Corinthians 6:18 Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body. 12. Colossians 3:5 So put to death the sinful, earthly things lurking within you. Have nothing to do with sexual immorality, impurity, lust, and evil desires. Don’t be greedy, for a greedy person is an idolater, worshiping the things of this world. Reminders 13. Galatians 5:16-17 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. 14. 1 Peter 1:14 As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance. 15. Proverbs 28:26 Whoever trusts in his own mind is a fool, but he who walks in wisdom will be delivered. Bonus 1 Corinthians 10:31 So, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God. These are all principles God wants Us as Christians to live by examples. I think both of U need to pray and ask God for Wisdom, Understanding and revelation when it comes to God.
I understand what you are saying and your scriptures are on point but just because you have scriptures does not mean you are right, not saying you are wrong either. The lord also gave us free will. Free will to make choices about what we can and will not do. All of choices will not aligns with Gods word or His will for our lives. At the day, God is not going to punish them or not love them for making a decision that he did not approve of. At the end of the day, they are glorifying God. Bre became a stronger woman in Christ because of Dre and she is sharing to the world about her growth and her past. The lord tells us to share our testimonies with others so that they can see the blessings in our lives and come to know the lord. Where would Bre be without Dre.? Who knows. From what we can see and what they say, he turned a non believer into a strong believer and they are both sharing the love of the lord to the world. That alone is a testimony and that alone is glorifying the Lord. The are both making an impact and helping individuals like themselves know who God is and help them make decisions about dating and life issues. That is glorifying the Lord and with that they will be blessed. This is very reason why millennials don’t come to church or seek God because we have people like yourself who throw scripture in our faces and make us feel like everything we do is wrong and we are not pleasing to him. I say us because I am a millennial but I go to church serve and all that. Show us the way first, guide us , teach, scripture will come but it didn’t take all of that to prove a point or get someone to know the lord. If anything you just pushed people away who may be doing things such as living together and now they are like oh well I am going to hell . NO.! As believers and Christians we are Christ representers and not to be of the world but what makes us different if we looked or judge others for every wrong decision they make and then try to throw scripture. That is not how we when them over.
@@Monichante I would say this to U pray for Wisdom, Understanding and ask God for revelation and be Obedient to his word. NOW, Yes God give US a free Will to do Right or Wrong and when we make wrong decisions or do wrong things God doesn't hate Us at all because We as Christians are learning from our mistakes and Wrong decisions BUT God also want Us to be Obedient to his Word and be Wise have Faith and Hope In him and do not frustrate the word of God, and I want U to Understand that and not only read/listen to stuff But understand what God wants also. Shacking Up is not right were God is concern and regardless to how Bre was/is, if they had enough Faith and Hope In God things would work out Abundantly beautiful which would be a Wonderful Testimony to people in the world and Glory to God. It is Clear that u watch RUclips videos but do not Zoom In to what is really being said cause Bre say in her video that "she would perfer to live with the person to see the pros and cons of the person and if she can tolerate them" so u know what this is the flesh and not the Holy Spirit guiding Her and also not allowing God to make the Decisions for them. I make mistakes and do things of the flesh sometimes and this is being unaware until the Holy spirit prom me it's wrong But I don't do anything that I am aware of that is wrong cause u know why it makes no sense doin it when I know it's Wrong. Oh another thing all Blessings don't come from God, the Devil can Bless U to cause he knows Us just like God, so becareful of the kind of Blessings U received. STOP MAKING EXCUSES TO FULFIL THE FLESH AND WHAT U WANT TO DO TO SATISFY YOUR SELF. #BEWISE
Tammy Jan you make it sound like all Christian couples who follow your view point about this are in happy and healthy relationships. You can quote the Bible left and right but what God revels to people is between him and those people. Their relationship with God is there’s and no one else to judge. I’ve heard about of the mouths of so many older Christian couples the reason they stayed with their spouses was because fear of God’s judgement and that sounds kinda shitty to me. I’d rather someone stay with me because they want to work on things because they love me and wants to be with me. Not cause they fear judgement that doesn’t sound like love. My grandmother is a Jehovah’s Witness and my partners mother is a Christian and both have the same view as you and I haven’t seen either one retain a happy marriage with their husbands. Following what you guys to believe to be true is not the only way to happy marriage/relationship. But I can respect your views and understand God gave you free will to do what you perceive to be good so he also has given that to this couple. They obviously seem to love God and are doing what is right for them. The Bible is open for interpretation and if they feel God put this in their hearts and its okay for them then you have no proof he didn’t. And I’m not even a religious person any ore and I can seem to grasp that. People always so concerned how other people aren’t living yo to God standards but you relationship with him is just that yours. This is theirs. There is plenty people in the Bible who God uses in non traditional ways to get his message across. So if they feel this is their testimony let it be. Only God can read hearts and know someone’s true intentions, correct?
Me and my partner have been together for 17 years, we never married but engaged now for the last two years. Either marriage or living together takes a lot of effort, communication and commitment to each other as long as both partners are on the same page.
I’m having trouble. My boyfriend and I are planning to move in with each other in the next couple years as we save up enough to transition to the new living arrangements comfortably. However, his parents are really crazy about getting married before living together as per cultural tradition and religion. It is a bit suspicious considering they dont even want us to get married in a church which we plan on doing, but anyways.. I am firm with my decision to not be married/engaged before moving out since it is my choice. I love the idea of doing things one step at a time and who wants to deal with moving out for the first time and planning a wedding. Not my choice honey! My boyfriend understands but his parents are gonna be a pain to convince. Any advice. Ps: we aren’t ‘waiting’ until marriage because the deeds been done🙂
I don’t believe in living together while dating someone but I definitely feel you should live with someone when you get engaged and begin the journey to marriage. I feel it’s risky to move in after your married because you don’t know the persons habits.
The Bible don’t state that specifically, but you should be able to identify a Christian couple from two non-believers living together not married. From the eyes of the people you living like a sinner.
I Totally Disagree--Jesus Touched On This In St John 4:18 To The "WOMAN @ THE WELLl";"You've Had 5 Husband's & The One You're With NOW'S NOT YOUR's"-SO NOO LIVING TOGETHER BEFORE Being MARRIED!!!!
I personally think the bible speaks of cohabitation in Luke chapter 4 with Jesus’ encounter with the woman at the well. He calls her out about the man she is with now who is not her husband. All the excuses you give can be found out by asking and or paying attention to. Then there is the perception of immorality by living together with sex before marriage. Temptation is real and Satan knows our weakness so we shouldn’t give him a foot in the door. If your gonna play house then go ahead and get married just like what God says He knows best.
I applaud you both for explaining such a personal aspect of your life. Because of the alters of religion this topic will always always always be prejudged even if you are truly abstinent. Love, agape love is the religion that was told to keep in the bible, which is to love thy neighbor as thyself. For everyone who quotes that to not even look upon sin, that would be impossible, we live in sin. The individual journey that you both have with God is what is important, not the religious checklist. Life is not black and white. God's living word provides daily's revelation. I did not and can not create heaven nor hell to put anyone in, therefore I can not speak on another's persons journey. Life is more unique than the depths of the ocean and the heights of the heavens and yet ppl have such a black and white view on God and how to love each other.
No you shouldn’t,,,,,,, no need to play marries and you ain’t married yet….There is no changing that to do what YOU GUYS may want to do… there’s no changing the word of God and how we should be
Just BC the world is accepting of it does not mean we will do it BC its can cause another of weaker faith to stumble. Its setting a bad example. And...temptation
I don’t think there is a one size fits on in terms of marriage and relationships as it’s based more so on personal beliefs and what’s the best for said couple after exploring all options and intentions with honest and open communication. I moved in with my partner after 3 years of being together and we will celebrate 7 years together in May. We took moving in with each other very serious as we could have easily lived together before. We did spend time on trips and vacations and I would stay at his dad house occasionally or at his moms (where He slept on the couch downstairs). We are the only one the other person has been with sexually and in a serious relationship with in general. We knew before moving in that this was it for us and when and even if we decide to marry it would be on our terms but we both previously dedicated ourselves together before even moving in we knew in the end we only wanted to be with each other. we take our relationship as serious as anyone we know takes their marriage. I have had friends go the traditional route, marriage, sex, babies and it didn’t work out in the end. I know plenty of Christian couples who are not in happy marriages or have divorced or remarried. My uncle was with his now wife for over 12 years before they got married (legal/tax reasons and it was important to one of their kids). They had two kids together and my uncle raised her daughter has his own from the day they decided to move in and take their relationship to their next level and seriously commit to each other. People assume because I moved in with my partner before marriage that’s why he is not marrying me when I am the one who does not want to marry yet. I have a ring. But the ring does not hold any weight for me. His actions, his words, and who he’s proved time and time again who he is is the important thing to me. I’ve watch both my parents go through divorces, my grandparents, and people close to me. A ring and a wedding and a legal document is not what makes a marriage in my opinion. That’s not what means forever, considering how high divorce rates are. I also don’t think it’s fair to judge and say someones relationship is going to fail or be any harder because they aren’t “married” or their relationship is traditional in a sense. I have no desire for a husband to look after me and guide me or lead me. I was raised by a single women as was every other women in my family. What I want is a equal partner, no stereotypical roles of whose supposed to do what. There have been times I worked and t partner focused on school. There have been times where he worked and I focused on school. We never have the mindset of marriage we will work on this or do this. Having a solid foundation before marriage or in general is what matters. I handle finances and even before we got very serious and moved in together he has always told me if I have something you have something because I got you. This is not all to say everyone should cohabitate before marriage because I’ve seen it BLOW up in people face and provide a false sense of security. But they did it for all the wrong reasons and way to soon in my opinion. What any relationship should have before marriage or in general is a open and honest communication. If everyone is on the same page and understands what each person needs and both are honest about where they want the relationship to go and what they need from a partner, then you have solid foundation regardless if you’re married or not.
I am Grateful for Bre and Dre Real Life( transparency) story. Their story connects with my life and situations. It's good to see that you can love your significant other and maintain DISCIPLINE, Sacrifices, and Self Control. The Lord our God does not want us to have Sex before marriage( that is the key). If you know living together is temptation to fornicate don't Do It. Mary and Joseph was together, the Bible didn't say if they stayed together or not, but it did say, that Joseph was waiting until marriage to sleep with her which is why he was upset when she became pregnant with Jesus. Overall, set boundaries and do what works for you, as long as it pleases God who See's everything. Again, I'm grateful for their transparency. Let us know that someone is willing to stand for God/Christ by rejecting the Flesh ❤
T F, Mary was already betrothed, which according to Jewish culture means they were married by our (western) standards, they just hadn’t consummated their decision (join together in sexual union). Joseph’s decision “to put her away privately” (divorce) was bc he did not know “what was in her was from the Holy Spirit”. After he heard from the Lord he understood his purpose and hers. And so, they remained married but did not have sex until after scripture was fulfilled (the VIRGIN shall CONCEIVE and BEAR a son)...”. So, giving reverence to Almighty God, their situation is not the same.
It’s wrong and bible clearly says it…. We see in the Bible that God intended for couples to live together only after they were married. "This explains why a man leaves his father and mother and is joined to his wife, and the two are united into one." - Genesis 2:24 NLT The emphasis in this Bible verse is the fact that a man leaves his father and mother, indicating that the man and woman lived with their families, not each other, before they got married. And we see in John 4 that Jesus points out that the Samaritan woman was living with a man who she wasn't married to. "Jesus said, "You're right! You don't have a husband- for you have had five husbands, and you aren't even married to the man you're living with now. You certainly spoke the truth!" - John 4:17-18 NLT
As Christians, we also have the responsibility not to do something if it makes another believer stumble. If you and your boyfriend have strong physical boundaries in place and are not sleeping together, you may be tempted to live together since you are avoiding sexual sin. But let’s say a new Christian couple at church looks up to you, and they notice that you live together without being married. What kind of message is this saying to the new Christian couple? They may think that it’s okay for Christians to live together before marriage, and they may end up stumbling into sexual sin once they move in together and fail to resist temptation. We see this concept illustrated in Romans 14 below. “Remember, all foods are acceptable, but it is wrong to eat something if it makes another person stumble. It is better not to eat meat or drink wine or do anything else if it might cause another believer to stumble. You may believe there’s nothing wrong with what you are doing, but keep it between yourself and God. Blessed are those who don’t feel guilty for doing something they have decided is right. But if you have doubts about whether or not you should eat something, you are sinning if you go ahead and do it. For you are not following your convictions. If you do anything you believe is not right, you are sinning.” - Romans 14:20-25 NLT So even if you and your boyfriend are able to live together without sleeping together, you could still be causing other believers to stumble. Which brings me to the next question, is it okay to live together if you aren’t sleeping together?
I personally do not want to live with my bf before marriage just off the fact that that’s one thing i want to do under the covenant of marriage. Way too many couples are doing marriage things in relationships and labeling it as test driving in a sense. That’s one of the joys of marriage i assume, is discovering things abt your partner and learning to coexist. I feel like if you truly love that person, those slightly annoying ways that he/she lives can be compromised. Majority of the time, things like finding out if someone is messy, is discovered in the dating phase without having to sleepover each other’s places. But to each his own. God bless you both.
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And it leads to temptation
I couldn’t agree with you more. I’m married and chose to not move in with my husband until AFTER he was my husband. Shacking is not a clear ticket to marriage for most. Statistics suggest it’s the opposite.
Thank you! Also, statistics show that those who live together before getting married are likely to be divorced/break up.
Agreed to you miss, I getting to know with someone where he prefer to living in relationship first before decide for marriage... but I really love this guy but I don’t like his ideology of this ...
So if it made sense and you had confirmation from God, why not just get married?... You can work together, build and enjoy each other at any time you want to.
Because it's not as shallow as 2 ppl walking down an aisle and saying "I do"
I’m waiting for marriage, I lived with a boyfriend prior to my current relationship and I told myself that I’m not living with another man until I am married. For me, I feel as though if you want me to live with you and do wifey things I need a ring. Personally, my last relationship I did all things wifey and we ended up breaking up not saying it’s all his fault but that’s how it ended. Granted it could be a maturity level and being in different stages of our lives. I experienced first hand what that was like and am not doing it again. My boyfriend are both strong believers in Christ and we believe that doing it Gods way. Besides, we are not rushing towards anything and we still have growing to do ourselves. God has already confirmed to me that he is my husband and to trust in His timing and all things will work together. I’m so happy and excited for you guys and I love your relationship and I see the blessings in your life. Bre, I love the Podcast.!!! I listen everyday and I have others listening as well so helpful and I enjoy it keep it up. Dre, my man I love it’s a word very helpful and always on time when I need it.
I think something that I would like to see y’all address in the next video is the role that cohabitation plays in waiting to marriage and maybe a little bit more from a biblical standpoint. The Bible does mention avoiding the appearance of sin and lustfulness which I can’t imagine doesn’t happen and naturally so. The Bible mentions that lusting is the equivalent of committing the act. Again, I think we understand your situation and I’m not judging but I would have liked a little more depth to the video
Yes! I was going to say the same thing!!
Jamee Bell Wow I was thinking the same thing...
I personally don't agree with cohabitation. Its too much temptation. The flesh is too weak. I don't know what kind of "protocols" yall do to stay in check and stay waiting until marriage but I know for me I would have to pray even in my sleep if I was living with my fiance lol. The bible doesnt say "it's sin to cohabitate", but it does say flee temptation. If yall figured that out kudos to yall! God bless yall and I love yall!
If them wait on God things would work out, what they should of do is go to the court and get married, then do the big wedding later.
@@wiser0185 I agree!
Thanks for the likes everyone!
Godsmylove the bible was written by Romans, not Jesus. The catholics found Jesus’s original teachings and then tried to destroy them because they went against the Church.
Unlike some of the other “christians” on here, I love how you made it clear the Bible does not say anything about cohabitation. Living together before marriage does not condemn you to hell. It is a PERSONAL choice! So many have turned away from the church and Christianity because they have become synonymous with judgment. But the highest commandment is LOVE and the Bible says specifically to judge NOT lest ye be judged. So thank you for being authentic, genuine humans who love God and are transparent in your relationship. I pray God blesses your marriage and from your union greatness is produced!
The Bible calls this an *eternal* issue that leads to *hell* mentioned in 1 Corinthians 6:9-10.
"Or *do you not know* that the unrighteous *will not inherit the kingdom of God* ? *Do not* be deceived; *neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals* , nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, *will inherit the kingdom of God* .
Misleading other people Bible also says puts blood on our hands (Isaiah 33:1-33; Isaiah 1:15; Leviticus 20:13; Acts 20: 26-31; Acts 18:6; Isaiah 59:3), so DON'T ever assume it's not in there- KNOW the Word and read it every day. "In Him we live and breathe and have our being." (Acts 17:28)
" *This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth* ; but *thou shalt meditate therein day and night* , that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt *make thy way prosperous* , and then thou shalt have *good success* ." (Joshua 1:8)
God not only disagrees with this RUclips, it's God Himself who says the consequence is *hell* . Who wants an eternal shock factor? None of us created the world, so *none of us* (including myself) create the rules. God does *and* He's smarter. The wages (like a paycheck) of *all sin is eternal death* in hell, but the gift of God is eternal life.
I love how y'all are leaving it open for people to look within themselves to judge from their situations and where they are at with God regarding this issue. Love you guys!🤗
I watch from Kenya 🇰🇪 by the way!☺️☺️☺️☺️
I understand your justification, but as a discerning Christian, in love I have to disagree. As a Believer in Christ, we must learn to trust the sovereignty of God in ALL things. It sounded like y’all started on that path (no sex b4 marriage) and have amended it to meet personal goals. God graciously gives us a free-will and as you said this decision is “your journey”, but it’s not His. Jesus died for all of our sins (omission and commission) and He will forgive. However, at some point we have to ask ourselves with the knowledge we have of Christ’s sacrifice am I trampling upon God’s grace? How does my decision advance God’s kingdom? As you mature in the faith, I pray you use your platform to be salt and light cause many are watching.
🙌 Yes …….amen 🙏!!
I like the idea of just living separate from a spouse because I like my own space too much.
Thanks for making this video 👏🏽 Could you please elaborate on how to set boundaries/avoid temptations while living together before marriage.
Im just now getting around to watching this after it’s been in my “watch later” for two weeks, lol. Anyways lol, i guess for me hearing you both talking about this topic is rather interesting to hear yall’s perspective and why you do live together. Yet, it’s troubling for me, as a Believer, and a subscriber of you guys’ channel to believe that you guys are saving yourselves for marriage especially since you live in the same space. Secondly, because you both have to shower and change, and all in between. & the Bible does talk about cohabitation, everyone has listed tons of scriptures on it and there’s plenty more, so i won’t go into that. Another thing, how do you go about not allowing your attraction for the other person to cause you to slip up?
I feel like it’s a heart thing (Jeremiah 17:9). Not saying yalls hearts are making us (your viewers/subscribers) stumble, however, in a sense if someone was/is new to the faith or came across a few of yalls videos it could be misleading to them. Just my perspective. Also, since you both are saying that you have to have strong self control, which is totally factual and vital, but saying that you’d have to live together before marrying them is playing “house” without the titles of “husband” and “wife”. I feel like you can find out all the kinks, and expectations of the other person when you don’t live together/when you’re courting. You’ll be able to learn all of that in marriage instead of just fiancés. Also, just because God gives you confirmation on who you’re supposed to marry doesn’t mean you should move in with them (Song of Solomon 8:4) because sexual sin is a slippery slope that we as humans could fall down anytime. In the same token, how do you guys abstain from sexual urges that happen? For clarification, this is all out of love. I pray God continues to help you guys abstain and everything you both do is acceptable in His sight. Much love 😁❤️
I say pray about it and ask God for a clear answer on this, I truly believe you’re leading your viewers astray in this aspect. In the book of Genesis it says “Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.”
Genesis 2:24 NKJV
To physically move in and live together with your boyfriend or girlfriend is outside of God's design, and that is what makes it an error. God designed here in Genesis 2 that a man will leave his parents and be joined to “his wife” as “one flesh”. Living with your boyfriend or girlfriend makes it appears as if you two are “one flesh”. How so? Because both people have left your separateness to live and be together as a couple “as “one”. A couple living together is a component reserved only for God's design in marriage.
Also you said you prefer people to not judge you and that they actually have no right to judge, however the word says that we are to judge with righteous judgment John 7-24.
““Judge not, that you be not judged. For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you.”
Matthew 7:1-2 NKJV
Here it’s saying that I will be judged in the same manner that I judged you. We are warned against making judgments in a hypocritical manner. We are to judge ourselves first before making judgments about others.
I agree with you.
Thank you for saying the truth
1 Thessalonians 5:22, Avoid every appearance of evil TPT
Amen🙏
Everyone sins, so then how do you avoid every sin?
@@erickabaldwin7920 hey love, there’s a difference in knowing and not knowing. There’s intentionally sinning and then going on about your day not knowing and fully understanding your sin. There’s Grace.. the cross.
@@FernideN thank God for His grace and mercy- that you, myself and everyone else does not deserve. Without it, none of us would have a leg to stand on
Thanks so much, may be you can address how you walked in purity while living together and the measures you put in place from your own experience in another video, that would be eye opening..Watching from Kenya
My bf and I are both christian but he thinks it's risky to wait until marriage to live together because there's so much to discover then... But I trust in God...
It’d be nice if you all could expound on how you’re staying pure while cohabitating. I’m interested & im sure it would be helpful for other viewers...Cause we know the spirit is willing but chile, the flesh is weak lol. Love y’all’s videos!
Thank y'all for addressing this, even though you certainly didn't have to. Yes the Bible does say to avoid the appearance of sin but because y'all have always been very transparent about why y'all lived together and your celibacy journey (I mean, y'all are RUclipsrs lol), I really feel like there was no appearance of sin. Just like with everything, you should use common sense. If you know you're both easily tempted then obviously living together isn't the move.
Rahma Ziyad so agree! Also being raised around Christianity I’ve seen many couple get married because they can’t avoid temptation and they just really want to have sex and take their relationship to the next level in that aspect. Their marriage will be solid because they already have a solid and open communication and Strength BEFORE marriage. They’re already committed to each other without needing to be married
@@Luna-fy3in exactly! Sex shouldn't be the goal, it's just a nice bonus. When they're in their 90's they will still have their friendship
I understand what you all are saying but God is a God of order and this backwards. You guys kept saying how things would have been tough if you would’ve taken a different route but how do you know that? You say Bre’s business wouldn’t have done well but how do you really know that?? It seems like instead of seeking God for His guidance & provision you all chose to depend on one another instead of allowing God to do what He does best. I know from experience that God will move mountains to take care of His children if we allow Him to. You talked about Bre not being able to manage money & not being in a good financial position but instead of allowing God to give her wisdom with handling finances & take care of her you took it upon yourself to make things “easier.” It was a whole lot of “I” & “We” but what about God? Our first thought regarding anything we do should be does this decision honor God? Or how does this bring glory to God??
Not living together before marriage goes far beyond not putting yourself into tempting situations to have premarital sex. It’s so God can develop and mature and prepare two people separately for marriage. It’s to position us spiritually and mentally for the role as husband and wife. In my preparation God has shown me how marriage is so much deeper than we make it. It’s really a covenant between God, husband and wife. I pray you both will take some time to truly seek God on this. Preferably separately so you can hear God clearly & not be influenced by one another.
They know that because it’s their relationship not yours stop judging
@@Noobaa9658 lol 5 months later 🥴 what makes you think I was judging them??
@@justjas161 girl you were not judging, you were speaking the truth
@@nickyt7408 thank you! I didn’t think I was being judgmental
@@justjas161 you made valid points 🤷🏾♀️👌🏾
I've always told my mom who is a leader in the church, that I want to live with my significant other before marriage and she's always been against the idea. Now I'm with the guy that I have no doubt in my heart about and he has expressed wanting us to live together without even knowing that I wanted the same thing. I have my reasons for wanting this tho. I believe living together allows you to see if you're willing to deal with how your significant other is and you get to grow and learn each other more. Plus, it's always been a big deal for me to live together because I have a health condition called Sickle Cell Disease and it's important that my bf sees and learns with first hand experience, if something happens. My family not gonna be there all my life....this is the person I plan to share my life with so, I think there are a number of factors in making this decision to live together. People of the church will have an issue with this because of tradition or because they knew at your age they were weak. You have to know yourself in waiting.
One thing I have to note is that there are a lot of females that hate the idea of living separately while dating and I think that boils down to trust issues.
I think as a Christian the decision is between the couple and God. We have the Holy Spirit dwelling in us to guide us. So if God is not pleased with something you will feel convicted. Some people want to list a ton of scriptures about why you should not and because people will think you’re having sex. But at the end of the day God knows what you’re doing. They’re people that are not co-habituating that are fornicating. I think you have to contemplate what pleases God and how your relationship can glorify God. None of us should do some because a couple on RUclips that we don’t even know are doing it. Well one couple may be able to withstand temptation other couples may not be that strong.
Amen, well said. People act like because someone said it they have to follow it. Follow your own convictions and pray to God.
I've noticed that it's possible to not feel conviction when in sin
@@BethKnox32 You should pray about that to God. Thats not good.
beth knox, amen there is pleasure in sin for a season.
The only problem with this is that you can end up encouraging weaker brothers. This means you will be a stumbling block for others. Also we wouldn't be fleeing temptation nor abstaining from appearances of evil. It's not specifically mentioned in the Bible because it was NEVER ever done. So biblically it was NEVER a normalised acceptable practise.
No you should not and the bible says not to
What have them confused is because they are not seein a direct bible verse sayin "u shouldn't live together before marriage" but if people would have Understanding and try to be Wise when reading the bible things would work out better for them.
Agreeded. There is a narrow gate. It seems that some people cohabitate because they are unsure. One foot in one foot out.
No it doesn't
Quote the scripture
@@arandaholley1719 are you God? You know their hearts?
Like y'all and I am glad that both of U are spreading info that would get/put ppl on track when it comes to relationships/marriages BUT on the other hand I don't want Y'all confuse yourselves and people, Now in the Bible it does not speaks to a lot of things direct But there are principles that God want Us as Christians to live by example ( the bible don't speaks to Christians not working in a Stripe Club But as a Christian u shouldn't cause the bible speaks to separating yourself from evil doings) 1 Thessalonians 5:21-22 Examine all things; retain that which is good. Separate yourselves from all appearance of evil.
1st Corinthians 7:2, “Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.”
1st Corinthians 6:18, “Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.”
Bible verses about shacking up
Plain and simple Christians should not be shacking up. If Jesus was in front of your face you would not tell Him, “well I’m thinking about moving in with my girlfriend.” We are not here to do what we want to do and we’re not here to be like the world. You and I know moving in with the opposite sex would not please Christ even if you were not doing anything sexually.
You can’t justify yourself, God knows the heart. You can’t say, “we need to see if we’re compatible, we need to save money, I love him/her, he’s going to leave me, we are not going to have sex.”
In some type of way you will fall. Stop trusting in your mind and trust in the Lord. The mind wants to be tempted by sin. Look at the negative appearance you will give others.
Most people are going to think “they’re having sex.” People weak in faith will say, “if they can do it I can do it as well.” Christians are not to live like others. Unbelievers move in with each other, but Christians wait until they’re married.
The worst thing you can do is try to justify yourself. Do all things for the glory of God and don’t make excuses for the reasons you are thinking about doing this. You are not glorifying God and you are giving a bad impression to others.
If you are planning to have premarital sex you must know Christians can’t live a willful sinful lifestyle. You say, “but I always hear about Christians having premarital sex.” The reason for that is most people who call themselves Christians in America are not truly Christians and never truly accepted Christ. Christianity in America is a joke. Do what God wants you to do and you know He wouldn’t put you in a situation to sin.
What does the Bible say?
1. 1 Thessalonians 5:21-22 Examine all things; retain that which is good. Separate yourselves from all appearance of evil.
2. Romans 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
3. Ephesians 5:17 Don’t act thoughtlessly, but understand what the Lord wants you to do.
4. Ephesians 5:8-10 For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Live as children of light (for the fruit of the light consists in all goodness, righteousness and truth) and find out what pleases the Lord.
5. Ephesians 5:1 Therefore be imitators of God, as beloved children.
6. 1 Corinthians 7:9 But if they can’t control themselves, they should go ahead and marry. It’s better to marry than to burn with lust.
7. Colossians 3:10 and have put on the new self, which is being renewed in knowledge after the image of its creator.
Not even a hint of sexual immorality.
8. Hebrews 13:4 Let marriage be kept honorable in every way, and the marriage bed undefiled. For God will judge those who commit sexual sins, especially those who commit adultery.
9. Ephesians 5:3-5 But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God’s holy people. Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving. For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person-such a person is an idolater-has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
10. 1 Thessalonians 4:3 For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication.
11. 1 Corinthians 6:18 Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body.
12. Colossians 3:5 So put to death the sinful, earthly things lurking within you. Have nothing to do with sexual immorality, impurity, lust, and evil desires. Don’t be greedy, for a greedy person is an idolater, worshiping the things of this world.
Reminders
13. Galatians 5:16-17 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
14. 1 Peter 1:14 As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance.
15. Proverbs 28:26 Whoever trusts in his own mind is a fool, but he who walks in wisdom will be delivered.
Bonus
1 Corinthians 10:31 So, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God.
These are all principles God wants Us as Christians to live by examples.
I think both of U need to pray and ask God for Wisdom, Understanding and revelation when it comes to God.
Tammy Jan amen
I understand what you are saying and your scriptures are on point but just because you have scriptures does not mean you are right, not saying you are wrong either. The lord also gave us free will. Free will to make choices about what we can and will not do. All of choices will not aligns with Gods word or His will for our lives. At the day, God is not going to punish them or not love them for making a decision that he did not approve of. At the end of the day, they are glorifying God. Bre became a stronger woman in Christ because of Dre and she is sharing to the world about her growth and her past. The lord tells us to share our testimonies with others so that they can see the blessings in our lives and come to know the lord. Where would Bre be without Dre.? Who knows. From what we can see and what they say, he turned a non believer into a strong believer and they are both sharing the love of the lord to the world. That alone is a testimony and that alone is glorifying the Lord. The are both making an impact and helping individuals like themselves know who God is and help them make decisions about dating and life issues. That is glorifying the Lord and with that they will be blessed. This is very reason why millennials don’t come to church or seek God because we have people like yourself who throw scripture in our faces and make us feel like everything we do is wrong and we are not pleasing to him. I say us because I am a millennial but I go to church serve and all that. Show us the way first, guide us , teach, scripture will come but it didn’t take all of that to prove a point or get someone to know the lord. If anything you just pushed people away who may be doing things such as living together and now they are like oh well I am going to hell . NO.! As believers and Christians we are Christ representers and not to be of the world but what makes us different if we looked or judge others for every wrong decision they make and then try to throw scripture. That is not how we when them over.
@@Monichante I would say this to U pray for Wisdom, Understanding and ask God for revelation and be Obedient to his word.
NOW, Yes God give US a free Will to do Right or Wrong and when we make wrong decisions or do wrong things God doesn't hate Us at all because We as Christians are learning from our mistakes and Wrong decisions BUT God also want Us to be Obedient to his Word and be Wise have Faith and Hope In him and do not frustrate the word of God, and I want U to Understand that and not only read/listen to stuff But understand what God wants also.
Shacking Up is not right were God is concern and regardless to how Bre was/is, if they had enough Faith and Hope In God things would work out Abundantly beautiful which would be a Wonderful Testimony to people in the world and Glory to God.
It is Clear that u watch RUclips videos but do not Zoom In to what is really being said cause Bre say in her video that "she would perfer to live with the person to see the pros and cons of the person and if she can tolerate them" so u know what this is the flesh and not the Holy Spirit guiding Her and also not allowing God to make the Decisions for them.
I make mistakes and do things of the flesh sometimes and this is being unaware until the Holy spirit prom me it's wrong But I don't do anything that I am aware of that is wrong cause u know why it makes no sense doin it when I know it's Wrong.
Oh another thing all Blessings don't come from God, the Devil can Bless U to cause he knows Us just like God, so becareful of the kind of Blessings U received.
STOP MAKING EXCUSES TO FULFIL THE FLESH AND WHAT U WANT TO DO TO SATISFY YOUR SELF.
#BEWISE
@tammy this is good and great research from a biblical standpoint. I’m not a “strict” religious Christian but I do agree with this.
Tammy Jan you make it sound like all Christian couples who follow your view point about this are in happy and healthy relationships. You can quote the Bible left and right but what God revels to people is between him and those people. Their relationship with God is there’s and no one else to judge. I’ve heard about of the mouths of so many older Christian couples the reason they stayed with their spouses was because fear of God’s judgement and that sounds kinda shitty to me. I’d rather someone stay with me because they want to work on things because they love me and wants to be with me. Not cause they fear judgement that doesn’t sound like love. My grandmother is a Jehovah’s Witness and my partners mother is a Christian and both have the same view as you and I haven’t seen either one retain a happy marriage with their husbands. Following what you guys to believe to be true is not the only way to happy marriage/relationship. But I can respect your views and understand God gave you free will to do what you perceive to be good so he also has given that to this couple. They obviously seem to love God and are doing what is right for them. The Bible is open for interpretation and if they feel God put this in their hearts and its okay for them then you have no proof he didn’t. And I’m not even a religious person any ore and I can seem to grasp that. People always so concerned how other people aren’t living yo to God standards but you relationship with him is just that yours. This is theirs. There is plenty people in the Bible who God uses in non traditional ways to get his message across. So if they feel this is their testimony let it be. Only God can read hearts and know someone’s true intentions, correct?
Me and my partner have been together for 17 years, we never married but engaged now for the last two years. Either marriage or living together takes a lot of effort, communication and commitment to each other as long as both partners are on the same page.
Don’t live with any man you are not married to! PERIOD
"Oh this makes sense and we like it" ??? Wow, 1 Corinthians 10:23
I'm ready for that video suggestion at the end👀👏🏾
I’m having trouble. My boyfriend and I are planning to move in with each other in the next couple years as we save up enough to transition to the new living arrangements comfortably. However, his parents are really crazy about getting married before living together as per cultural tradition and religion. It is a bit suspicious considering they dont even want us to get married in a church which we plan on doing, but anyways.. I am firm with my decision to not be married/engaged before moving out since it is my choice. I love the idea of doing things one step at a time and who wants to deal with moving out for the first time and planning a wedding. Not my choice honey! My boyfriend understands but his parents are gonna be a pain to convince. Any advice. Ps: we aren’t ‘waiting’ until marriage because the deeds been done🙂
I don’t believe in living together while dating someone but I definitely feel you should live with someone when you get engaged and begin the journey to marriage. I feel it’s risky to move in after your married because you don’t know the persons habits.
Ok! And I believe this too and also with Covid that changes things😊
The Bible don’t state that specifically, but you should be able to identify a Christian couple from two non-believers living together not married. From the eyes of the people you living like a sinner.
I really want to see the video on living together while waiting.
It will really help.
Just what I needed! Love y’all!!!!🤍🤍🤍
I Totally Disagree--Jesus Touched On This In St John 4:18 To The "WOMAN @ THE WELLl";"You've Had 5 Husband's & The One You're With NOW'S NOT YOUR's"-SO NOO LIVING TOGETHER BEFORE Being MARRIED!!!!
I personally think the bible speaks of cohabitation in Luke chapter 4 with Jesus’ encounter with the woman at the well. He calls her out about the man she is with now who is not her husband. All the excuses you give can be found out by asking and or paying attention to. Then there is the perception of immorality by living together with sex before marriage. Temptation is real and Satan knows our weakness so we shouldn’t give him a foot in the door. If your gonna play house then go ahead and get married just like what God says He knows best.
eye opening..with love from South Africa
This is a very eye opening couple
I applaud you both for explaining such a personal aspect of your life. Because of the alters of religion this topic will always always always be prejudged even if you are truly abstinent. Love, agape love is the religion that was told to keep in the bible, which is to love thy neighbor as thyself. For everyone who quotes that to not even look upon sin, that would be impossible, we live in sin. The individual journey that you both have with God is what is important, not the religious checklist. Life is not black and white. God's living word provides daily's revelation. I did not and can not create heaven nor hell to put anyone in, therefore I can not speak on another's persons journey. Life is more unique than the depths of the ocean and the heights of the heavens and yet ppl have such a black and white view on God and how to love each other.
That was good thanks for sharing , bre you look very pretty , I love watching you two.
No you shouldn’t,,,,,,, no need to play marries and you ain’t married yet….There is no changing that to do what YOU GUYS may want to do… there’s no changing the word of God and how we should be
Just BC the world is accepting of it does not mean we will do it BC its can cause another of weaker faith to stumble. Its setting a bad example. And...temptation
What are yall signs?
11:43 sooo true!
Great share this was super informative, especially the part about the Bible not prohibiting living together before marriage.
Why does everything have to be about Mr King James book?
The Bible does not speak of living together before marriage,because premarital Se is a marriage spoiler!!!!
Do a meet and greet puleeeeeaaaassssee I wanna meet bre 😊😩 I’m in MD
Yasssss new video !!❤️❤️❤️
I don’t think there is a one size fits on in terms of marriage and relationships as it’s based more so on personal beliefs and what’s the best for said couple after exploring all options and intentions with honest and open communication. I moved in with my partner after 3 years of being together and we will celebrate 7 years together in May. We took moving in with each other very serious as we could have easily lived together before. We did spend time on trips and vacations and I would stay at his dad house occasionally or at his moms (where He slept on the couch downstairs). We are the only one the other person has been with sexually and in a serious relationship with in general. We knew before moving in that this was it for us and when and even if we decide to marry it would be on our terms but we both previously dedicated ourselves together before even moving in we knew in the end we only wanted to be with each other. we take our relationship as serious as anyone we know takes their marriage. I have had friends go the traditional route, marriage, sex, babies and it didn’t work out in the end. I know plenty of Christian couples who are not in happy marriages or have divorced or remarried. My uncle was with his now wife for over 12 years before they got married (legal/tax reasons and it was important to one of their kids). They had two kids together and my uncle raised her daughter has his own from the day they decided to move in and take their relationship to their next level and seriously commit to each other. People assume because I moved in with my partner before marriage that’s why he is not marrying me when I am the one who does not want to marry yet. I have a ring. But the ring does not hold any weight for me. His actions, his words, and who he’s proved time and time again who he is is the important thing to me. I’ve watch both my parents go through divorces, my grandparents, and people close to me. A ring and a wedding and a legal document is not what makes a marriage in my opinion. That’s not what means forever, considering how high divorce rates are. I also don’t think it’s fair to judge and say someones relationship is going to fail or be any harder because they aren’t “married” or their relationship is traditional in a sense. I have no desire for a husband to look after me and guide me or lead me. I was raised by a single women as was every other women in my family. What I want is a equal partner, no stereotypical roles of whose supposed to do what. There have been times I worked and t partner focused on school. There have been times where he worked and I focused on school. We never have the mindset of marriage we will work on this or do this. Having a solid foundation before marriage or in general is what matters. I handle finances and even before we got very serious and moved in together he has always told me if I have something you have something because I got you. This is not all to say everyone should cohabitate before marriage because I’ve seen it BLOW up in people face and provide a false sense of security. But they did it for all the wrong reasons and way to soon in my opinion. What any relationship should have before marriage or in general is a open and honest communication. If everyone is on the same page and understands what each person needs and both are honest about where they want the relationship to go and what they need from a partner, then you have solid foundation regardless if you’re married or not.
I am in the same situation. Love y’all
If you both had plans of marriage it's ok...if not complacency will set in
Thank You.... Mega Love From South Africa
I am Grateful for Bre and Dre Real Life( transparency) story. Their story connects with my life and situations. It's good to see that you can love your significant other and maintain DISCIPLINE, Sacrifices, and Self Control. The Lord our God does not want us to have Sex before marriage( that is the key). If you know living together is temptation to fornicate don't Do It. Mary and Joseph was together, the Bible didn't say if they stayed together or not, but it did say, that Joseph was waiting until marriage to sleep with her which is why he was upset when she became pregnant with Jesus. Overall, set boundaries and do what works for you, as long as it pleases God who See's everything. Again, I'm grateful for their transparency. Let us know that someone is willing to stand for God/Christ by rejecting the Flesh ❤
T F, Mary was already betrothed, which according to Jewish culture means they were married by our (western) standards, they just hadn’t consummated their decision (join together in sexual union). Joseph’s decision “to put her away privately” (divorce) was bc he did not know “what was in her was from the Holy Spirit”. After he heard from the Lord he understood his purpose and hers. And so, they remained married but did not have sex until after scripture was fulfilled (the VIRGIN shall CONCEIVE and BEAR a son)...”. So, giving reverence to Almighty God, their situation is not the same.
@@jeepgurl1379 That's your opinion and understanding of scriptures.. My views and revelations is different. It's ok. 👌❤
It’s wrong and bible clearly says it….
We see in the Bible that God intended
for couples to live together only after
they were married.
"This explains why a man leaves his
father and mother and is joined to
his wife, and the two are united
into one." - Genesis 2:24 NLT
The emphasis in this Bible verse is the
fact that a man leaves his father and
mother, indicating that the man and
woman lived with their families, not each
other, before they got married.
And we see in John 4 that Jesus points
out that the Samaritan woman was living
with a man who she wasn't married to.
"Jesus said, "You're right! You don't
have a husband- for you have had
five husbands, and you aren't even
married to the man you're living
with now. You certainly spoke the
truth!" - John 4:17-18 NLT
As Christians, we also have the responsibility not to do something if it makes another believer stumble.
If you and your boyfriend have strong physical boundaries in place and are not sleeping together, you may be tempted to live together since you are avoiding sexual sin.
But let’s say a new Christian couple at church looks up to you, and they notice that you live together without being married.
What kind of message is this saying to the new Christian couple?
They may think that it’s okay for Christians to live together before marriage, and they may end up stumbling into sexual sin once they move in together and fail to resist temptation.
We see this concept illustrated in Romans 14 below.
“Remember, all foods are acceptable, but it is wrong to eat something if it makes another person stumble. It is better not to eat meat or drink wine or do anything else if it might cause another believer to stumble.
You may believe there’s nothing wrong with what you are doing, but keep it between yourself and God. Blessed are those who don’t feel guilty for doing something they have decided is right.
But if you have doubts about whether or not you should eat something, you are sinning if you go ahead and do it. For you are not following your convictions. If you do anything you believe is not right, you are sinning.” - Romans 14:20-25 NLT
So even if you and your boyfriend are able to live together without sleeping together, you could still be causing other believers to stumble.
Which brings me to the next question, is it okay to live together if you aren’t sleeping together?
Love you guys together forever
interesting🙁
Good video.But why do we use the french word(route).We have a word for that in english,infact we have too many.PATH,ROAD and many more.
Nope
Why don’t y’all just get married?
Because it's a huge commitment. And also breaking up is easier than getting divorced.
@@qwertz666 but if you get married that’s not an option.
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Cohabitation marriage is illeagal unlawful ilegimate activities according to our Islam
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