I agree that you can't save the world on your own, but you can still be a voice for peace, even in just a single statement. It has a ripple effect, and it doesn't need to take much from you.
If you understood a single word what Irene is saying or the work she is doing, you would not need her to vote for something on the outside. This woman creates true healing and peace in all of us individually and therefor collectively. There is no need for anyone to state anything just so you feel better. Her presence is enough to understand what she is doing and who she is being. Lastly, the truth does not need loud defending, it just is.
Really great talk. I always enjoy listening to you and Chris. I’ve listened to all previous episode with him and some more than once. Well worth the time. 🙏
Irene, in regards to ' not helping enough, not doing enough'. By helping your clients regulate, you help them get closer to being their best selves, and they will have more to give the world, near and far. Your work has huge ripple effects.
Hi guys this talk between you both was super informative and helpful to me, who has to had her whole life comes crashing down to see my lifetime of disregulation. Its certainly all got my attention now! Bless you for your sharing 🙏
A Calgo dog lover friend says: I can't save the world from dogs. But I Can save ONE dog from the World. How magnificent is that. We all have our preferences. Amen. Kate Bush's Running up the hill is all about running up/ confronting towards Wetico (there is an interesting book about Wetico) Thank you, great conversation !
Would be most interesting and welcomed to read about people's experiences around dealing with the various rabbitholes and deeply unwholesome phenomena taking place in the world. To me it is sometimes very unsettling to navigate among people in the daily life. The very vast majority haven't got a clue what is actually taking place behind the scenes and the level of direct malevolence imposed upon humanity's physical, mental, emotional and spiritual health. Even otherwise conscious and wise people, but who haven't done this researchm just don't come even close to fathom the sheer, yes, evil, that is at work. This makes for a peculiar situation when one is working on healing trauma. First because the ventral vagal human connection wiring gets a bit twisted, since the need for real and qualitative communication often gets really awkward when one often gets shunned and told one is a "conspiracists" (by those who haven't really done any proper research) and also, second, by knowing that there is currently a massive and intensifying attack upon humanity on so many levels simultaneously and the mere knowing of this makes the capacity for grounding a bit hampered in my experience. Moreover, those brave souls in various fields (medical, military, politics, media, etc) that literally have sacrificed their lives (sometimes physical, sometimes career, sometimes socially) to makes us aware that we are extremely close to a tyrannical global society beyond comprehension, is not listened to. My experience from doing rather in depth research about these things for 4 years and several thousands of hours - earlier I have avoided these so called 'conspiracy' topics - is that we need each other more than ever to regulate these often traumatizing hard facts of life. But the opposite is most often the case. People tend to 'shoot the messenger', as it were, and that makes for a very unfortunate spiral in our society. Most people get so scared only touching briefly upon this kind of information and backfires and turn against those who actually will reveal the necessary information we need to deal with to help humanity through this. Please, share, talk, reply, respond, open up, about this as much as you wish. I would love reading your comment. Take care, y'all!
What u are describing mimcs the dynamic when emotionally immature persons will blame/shut down the ones that raise issues that need to be addressed. But since the distress of the issues causes the EIP's distress they cant handle their defence would be to turn you into an offender. I really see how society might turn into 2 camps as theres no talking to those who are set on missunderstanding u as they see it as a way of protection which paradoxically will destroy them in the end.
Thanks for responding. Yes, these protections, if not seen and acknowledged, can turn to vicious poison and, as you say, will eventually come full circle and hit hard. What is toughest to my mental and emotional health is this constant cultural gaslighting towards the messengers of such information I hinted at in my original comment. We all know that living with a person with full blown narcissistic disorder ćan genereate some serious states of ptsd. I hold it as true that it is equally if not worse to experience it from all directions in societal life, education, politics, media platforms, even religion and therapy is infected by this soul malaise.
Quote from my book that I just started reading: If we don't change course, he fears we are headed toward a world where "there's going to be an upper class of people that are very aware" of the risks to their attention and find ways to live within their limits, and then there will be the rest of the society with "fewer resources to resist the manipula-tion, and they're going to be living more and more inside their com-puters, being manipulated more and more." - Stolen Focus This really hits the nail on the head
I hear ya. These past years things have become even more clear of how a lot of hings are upside down in this world. I'm not gonna say I understand or know everything, don't think anybody does, but I feel I'm more aware than the average person, especially the ones who would rather shut down anyone who dares question things. It's definitely stressful to handle, especially when you're dealing with your own trauma healing as you point out. It's very easy to feel like you need to be defensive all the time when in this situation. I try to keep in mind that most people are actually good, but in a way brainwashed or acting out their own wounds. But it's very few who are truly open minded. And most times it's also quite the process to change one's mind. I can just look at myself for example. What I believed 10 years ago is far from what I think now. I wish I had a great answer to all this, but I can just point to try take care of oneself as best you can first, have good interaction with likeminded people when possible and perhaps choose one's battles. It's easy to feel despair sometimes, but know that there are decent and awake people out there. Thanks for sharing.
@@dogcat9179 Thank you for taking the time sharing. It is very appreciated. Your words could've been my own. Wish you much strength, clarity and peace for your path.
I love this at the 19min 10 second clip …. Being honest with yourself and not hiding, here is what is real. And offering up, giving it to God, in whatever stance, and just giving him my all and my nothingness. Not hiding, nothing scripted. Being with the ground that I fell on in the trails and connecting with the trees and moss, dirt and gravel….. My creator made all that. And all that I have and am and contain I will offer up…. I have nothing else to give.
I love the conversations that Irene and Chris have but I can't seem to figure out why his energy in particular makes me so sleepy? I have so many questions. Is Chris actually that calm and relaxed? Am I that dysregulated? Weird!
I definitely need to watch this, and it intrigues me that you posted this as I was contemplating this exact thing. 🧐 The Universe is nudging me in the right direction. ❤❤❤
If one goes deep enough into the metaphysics of the christian tradition - orthodoxy, gnosticism, esoteric christianity - one sees that there isn't a duality between formless unknowable Godhead (Source) and intimate relationship between a divine 'parent' and child (us). The inner meaning as to why Yeshua called out to "Abba" is very deep and should not be discarded just because we have met one too many of those christians who speaks about the vengeance of God and what not. One should not mix up the energies/force with essence/source. One AND many. Always these paradoxes.
Thank you for your rich videos as usual❤ just have a small comment that I've noticed in a couple of videos which is related to empathic people or empathy, to make it short as there are lots of research about this: I can see that you have mixed here in this video between empathy and being raised in chaotic houses & acting as a people pleaser (fawn).. yes the nervous system can be affected when being raised in a chaotic house and that can affect certain neurones in the brain that that can be very alert.. grasping other people's vibes .. and even affect ones' emotions due to the maybe higher sensitivity in the mirror neurons BUT that doesn't delete the fact that certain people are born with higher sensitivity than others due to their original innate mirror neurons.. and that doesn't mean that they are higher than others or more gifted than others.. they just have their own special and unique gifts just as everyone else has their own gifts .. reading for Dr Judith orloff has helped a lot in this area🌷
I was a child who felt like I created a lot of psycho somatic illnesses( usually sore throats/tonsillitis), I adored being home and then getting my mothets attention which I had to fight over between another 5 siblings and parent otherwise. It sort of made sense how I almost died of asthma aged 6 too..I always feel I sort of " bought this on myself" too somehow..and the suffercation fighting for breathe in that toxic chaotic family.
I agree that you can't save the world on your own, but you can still be a voice for peace, even in just a single statement. It has a ripple effect, and it doesn't need to take much from you.
If you understood a single word what Irene is saying or the work she is doing, you would not need her to vote for something on the outside. This woman creates true healing and peace in all of us individually and therefor collectively. There is no need for anyone to state anything just so you feel better. Her presence is enough to understand what she is doing and who she is being. Lastly, the truth does not need loud defending, it just is.
Yay a new conversation with these two! I could listen to them for hours. 😊
True healing is soo lonely. I wish I had just 1 person in my real life on the same journey 😢
You are not alone
@@MarloesVanReek 💚
God, me too😒
But when I'm actually embodied it's almost impossible to feel alone/lonely. So, keep going! 🧡
You both sound so calm around each other. And not the fake yoga teacher voice, the genuine low tone ☺️
Really great talk. I always enjoy listening to you and Chris. I’ve listened to all previous episode with him and some more than once. Well worth the time. 🙏
Irene, in regards to ' not helping enough, not doing enough'. By helping your clients regulate, you help them get closer to being their best selves, and they will have more to give the world, near and far. Your work has huge ripple effects.
Hi guys this talk between you both was super informative and helpful to me, who has to had her whole life comes crashing down to see my lifetime of disregulation. Its certainly all got my attention now! Bless you for your sharing 🙏
A Calgo dog lover friend says: I can't save the world from dogs. But I Can save ONE dog from the World. How magnificent is that. We all have our preferences. Amen.
Kate Bush's Running up the hill is all about running up/ confronting towards Wetico (there is an interesting book about Wetico)
Thank you, great conversation !
Would be most interesting and welcomed to read about people's experiences around dealing with the various rabbitholes and deeply unwholesome phenomena taking place in the world. To me it is sometimes very unsettling to navigate among people in the daily life. The very vast majority haven't got a clue what is actually taking place behind the scenes and the level of direct malevolence imposed upon humanity's physical, mental, emotional and spiritual health. Even otherwise conscious and wise people, but who haven't done this researchm just don't come even close to fathom the sheer, yes, evil, that is at work.
This makes for a peculiar situation when one is working on healing trauma. First because the ventral vagal human connection wiring gets a bit twisted, since the need for real and qualitative communication often gets really awkward when one often gets shunned and told one is a "conspiracists" (by those who haven't really done any proper research) and also, second, by knowing that there is currently a massive and intensifying attack upon humanity on so many levels simultaneously and the mere knowing of this makes the capacity for grounding a bit hampered in my experience.
Moreover, those brave souls in various fields (medical, military, politics, media, etc) that literally have sacrificed their lives (sometimes physical, sometimes career, sometimes socially) to makes us aware that we are extremely close to a tyrannical global society beyond comprehension, is not listened to.
My experience from doing rather in depth research about these things for 4 years and several thousands of hours - earlier I have avoided these so called 'conspiracy' topics - is that we need each other more than ever to regulate these often traumatizing hard facts of life. But the opposite is most often the case. People tend to 'shoot the messenger', as it were, and that makes for a very unfortunate spiral in our society. Most people get so scared only touching briefly upon this kind of information and backfires and turn against those who actually will reveal the necessary information we need to deal with to help humanity through this.
Please, share, talk, reply, respond, open up, about this as much as you wish. I would love reading your comment.
Take care, y'all!
What u are describing mimcs the dynamic when emotionally immature persons will blame/shut down the ones that raise issues that need to be addressed. But since the distress of the issues causes the EIP's distress they cant handle their defence would be to turn you into an offender. I really see how society might turn into 2 camps as theres no talking to those who are set on missunderstanding u as they see it as a way of protection which paradoxically will destroy them in the end.
Thanks for responding. Yes, these protections, if not seen and acknowledged, can turn to vicious poison and, as you say, will eventually come full circle and hit hard.
What is toughest to my mental and emotional health is this constant cultural gaslighting towards the messengers of such information I hinted at in my original comment. We all know that living with a person with full blown narcissistic disorder ćan genereate some serious states of ptsd. I hold it as true that it is equally if not worse to experience it from all directions in societal life, education, politics, media platforms, even religion and therapy is infected by this soul malaise.
Quote from my book that I just started reading:
If we don't change course, he fears we are headed toward a world where "there's going to be an upper class of people that are very aware" of the risks to their attention and find ways to live within their limits, and then there will be the rest of the society with "fewer resources to resist the manipula-tion, and they're going to be living more and more inside their com-puters, being manipulated more and more."
- Stolen Focus
This really hits the nail on the head
I hear ya. These past years things have become even more clear of how a lot of hings are upside down in this world. I'm not gonna say I understand or know everything, don't think anybody does, but I feel I'm more aware than the average person, especially the ones who would rather shut down anyone who dares question things.
It's definitely stressful to handle, especially when you're dealing with your own trauma healing as you point out. It's very easy to feel like you need to be defensive all the time when in this situation. I try to keep in mind that most people are actually good, but in a way brainwashed or acting out their own wounds. But it's very few who are truly open minded. And most times it's also quite the process to change one's mind. I can just look at myself for example. What I believed 10 years ago is far from what I think now.
I wish I had a great answer to all this, but I can just point to try take care of oneself as best you can first, have good interaction with likeminded people when possible and perhaps choose one's battles. It's easy to feel despair sometimes, but know that there are decent and awake people out there. Thanks for sharing.
@@dogcat9179
Thank you for taking the time sharing. It is very appreciated. Your words could've been my own.
Wish you much strength, clarity and peace for your path.
I love this at the 19min 10 second clip …. Being honest with yourself and not hiding, here is what is real. And offering up, giving it to God, in whatever stance, and just giving him my all and my nothingness. Not hiding, nothing scripted. Being with the ground that I fell on in the trails and connecting with the trees and moss, dirt and gravel….. My creator made all that. And all that I have and am and contain I will offer up…. I have nothing else to give.
Haha wtf this is horrible!! prayer. That was so true and funny. Honesty prayers...❤. I like that. Thankyou both .
I love the conversations that Irene and Chris have but I can't seem to figure out why his energy in particular makes me so sleepy? I have so many questions. Is Chris actually that calm and relaxed? Am I that dysregulated? Weird!
Is he trying to burp every couple minutes?
I definitely need to watch this, and it intrigues me that you posted this as I was contemplating this exact thing. 🧐 The Universe is nudging me in the right direction. ❤❤❤
I am profoundly aware that I am unable to save the world. Absolutely nothing can stop me from trying!
If one goes deep enough into the metaphysics of the christian tradition - orthodoxy, gnosticism, esoteric christianity - one sees that there isn't a duality between formless unknowable Godhead (Source) and intimate relationship between a divine 'parent' and child (us).
The inner meaning as to why Yeshua called out to "Abba" is very deep and should not be discarded just because we have met one too many of those christians who speaks about the vengeance of God and what not.
One should not mix up the energies/force with essence/source. One AND many. Always these paradoxes.
Thank you for your rich videos as usual❤ just have a small comment that I've noticed in a couple of videos which is related to empathic people or empathy, to make it short as there are lots of research about this: I can see that you have mixed here in this video between empathy and being raised in chaotic houses & acting as a people pleaser (fawn).. yes the nervous system can be affected when being raised in a chaotic house and that can affect certain neurones in the brain that that can be very alert.. grasping other people's vibes .. and even affect ones' emotions due to the maybe higher sensitivity in the mirror neurons BUT that doesn't delete the fact that certain people are born with higher sensitivity than others due to their original innate mirror neurons.. and that doesn't mean that they are higher than others or more gifted than others.. they just have their own special and unique gifts just as everyone else has their own gifts .. reading for Dr Judith orloff has helped a lot in this area🌷
I found this such a soothing, insightful and resonant conversation. ❤
As in John Mayer’s song : the Heart Of Life Is Good …❤
I hope he didn’t mention mother theresa. So much controversy about her
Really ?! What controversy ? I have not heard anything bad about her ! I always thought, that she was a really cool lady ! 😌💖
I was a child who felt like I created a lot of psycho somatic illnesses( usually sore throats/tonsillitis), I adored being home and then getting my mothets attention which I had to fight over between another 5 siblings and parent otherwise. It sort of made sense how I almost died of asthma aged 6 too..I always feel I sort of " bought this on myself" too somehow..and the suffercation fighting for breathe in that toxic chaotic family.