His view is surprisingly nuanced. "I don't want to reinforce the notion that culturally feminized clothing = LGBTQ." And he's right: anti-trans violence isn't about the clothes, not entirely. I would argue that it's about the challenge to assumptions about gender roles, what is "natural", and who you're allowed to bully in this culture. Great interview, thank you.
I love this! I knew a cis male who loved what he called “cross dressing”. He was a man who loved women and also loved women’s clothes. It’s so refreshing to see this getting positive media attention so we can abolish ideas about gendered clothing. Thank you, sir!
It’s still heavily gendered but it’s ok. I’m a woman and I like to wear ties every now and then, it’s okay to wear clothes typically attributed to the opposite gender sometimes, or all the time.
@@gosiagorecka3454 It only looks weird because in your head you don't think men should wear skirts. It's just clothing, clothing shouldn't be gendered. If you open your mind a little bit and realize it's just fabric, it doesn't change who he is as a person, then it should become less weird. Why is it okay for women to wear suits and still be considered feminine but it isn't okay for men to wear dresses and skirts and still be considered manly?
@@coletteandtulip as much as this man has a right to wear a skirt and feel good about it- I have a right to feel weird about it. Or not? Freedom of self expression and feeling is only allowed to some and not others?
@@gosiagorecka3454 You are free to feel what you want. Feeling weird is generally considered to be a negative emotion and I was challenging you on why you're having a negative emotion to something that isn't really negative. Wouldn't you rather not feel weird to see men in skirts? Isn't being happy for them a more positive emotion to feel? It's up to you to how you want to feel about it. I was just offering you a chance to change a negative emotion into a positive one.
This just emphasizes the dualism of clothing. On a personal level, it can help you express yourself. But simultaneously, gender-limiting clothing is arbitrary, as fashion and social norms changes over time. Men wore dresses and heels for centuries. Some people are so limited.
I feel that on so many levels, I buy mens clothes because they are often cheaper and better quality, aimed with more respect and less whimsical fast fashion. I feel angry that this is the way our options are.
a beautiful interview. when he is describing his college girlfriend, their after class dancing, her open-mindedness. i am thankful that the women in his life have allowed him to express his femininity via clothing (heels/skirts). just beautiful. thanks style like u. :-)
“Me wearing a skirt should be the least of your worries, we should be worried about racism, we should be worried about wars, we should be worried about people starving…” , what a great human 🙌🏾
i never thought about a bloke in heels before. not even doing drag, he’s just dressing normal. it’s really nice to see. esp since he seems genuinely confident and sure of himself.
He’s doing what most people don’t have the confidence to do. So many people want to live their life a certain way but are scared of what others will say.
I love this. Traditional western gender expression is not the end all be all. Many things we view as traditionally masculine or feminine is very specific to white Anglo-Saxon protestant views and beliefs. Indigenous cultures around the word have expressed gender in very different ways.
Now as a black woman you should know that’s not true. Most traditional eastern cultures have very binary gender norms that were there long before the introduction of European influence. I hate to see y’all so proudly misinformed.
@@WilliamsPinch Perhaps that’s your failed interpretation of information. Traditionally, while most indigenous cultures do recognize and practiced binary gender roles-those roles and the family structure do not mimic western norms. Studying the tribes of Omo Valley in Ethiopia I saw the practice of men adorning themselves with jewelry, making themselves, beautiful, and presenting themselves to the women so that they may attract a mate. Many forms of body modification such as scarification, face tattoos, lip plates, neck rings, etc are not viewed as feminine or particularly beautiful in the west-yet in many indigenous tribes these practices are seen as beauty enhancements. There are endless examples and resources that support my statement. I hope that you continue to research and broaden your perspective.✌🏾
Also how great it will be when women can wear what they want! Clothing that doesn't need to be feminine, figure flattering, form fitting, and with non existent pockets. I also want to wear baggy clothes and cargo pants and still be considered professional.
In the almost 9 years of being non-binary, what i have learned is “gender expression does not equal gender identity” and that has been so freeing to me in what I feel comfortable wearing regardless of my gender and sexual orientation. He likes to wear a skirt and heels, but he’s still a straight cis man, and he rocks the look in his own way. His smile and confidence makes him look really awesome and badass in his outfits. I can’t wear heels like he does. Im like a new born deer with vertigo on ice.🤣🤣🤣 Sneakers, dress shoes, and boots are what i wear.
Mark, you are gorgeous!! I so appreciate the nuance and authenticity of this conversation, especially around the 12:00 minute mark with the discussion of the queer community and clothing. I appreciate that Mark shares his view on it and even if it doesn’t “land” or he doesn’t speak about it in the way the community normally would, I like that he is trying and he is being true to himself. He is still a masculine cis straight man in this society and so his viewpoint comes from that place - and that’s what makes his clothing choices that much more interesting. I think he is uncomfortable with the assumption and misunderstanding of his sexuality, not the fact that it’s the queer community he is being lumped together with. No one likes to be misunderstood or misrepresented. I hope he sees though that the fact that he hasn’t received negative repercussions because he is upholding some semblance of “masculinity” (maybe that he isn’t one to be messed with, for example) is part of the societal problem and that folks who maybe don’t portray that masculinity are therefore still vulnerable. And I love that StyleLikeU confronts him on this topic, uses inclusive language, etc. Just such a good interview all around, I love love love it ❤❤
This just fills me with joy! I love seeing folks wear whatever they want. It always felt so strange to me that it isn't broadly socially acceptable for men to wear dresses/skirts. Especially because men have a tendency to have smaller thighs (in general) and so there is less of a tendency for the uncomfortable upper thigh rub.
Men like this made the cost of size 13 heels come down tremendously after 35 yrs of having to spend $60 a pair through only one vendor. Being 6'1 very feminine woman who is just not a great tailor wore men's shirts many years. Now with neuromuscular disease only wear walking shoes and slacks...stable footing and protecting knees from scrapes , not getting cane tangled in a skirt. Really wish people would just accept the person, not the clothes.
Exactly. I wish trans folk would stop the nonsense and accept themselves enough to express their true self without trying to gaslight everyone into thinking that they can ever change s*x. You don't have to change s*x to fit in. This is not the 1950s. Your can redefine what a man looks like, but you can never redefine what everyone else is just so it fits your narrative.
My Grandmother put me into my first pair of high heels on my 13th birthday with the explanation that I was now a teenager and it was better to get used to them early. I worked in heels. I socialised in heels. I am five foot tall and late 50's and still love my heels so I can completely understand his feelings about them! Wear what the heck you want but do it with style and grace.
I’ll admit I felt uncomfortable with the interviewer’s discussion starting around 12:00; it wasn’t the topic but the way the content and ideologies were asserted.
Hey Style Like You, how can your viewer community help you drop Better Help as a sponsor due their incredibly problematic and harmful practices? We know therapy can be a great tool for many many people, and that you probably depend on sponsors to produce video - however it matters which corporations you choose to take money from.
Agreed, thank you for saying this, I was just about to note it myself. BetterHelp has been caught selling patient data to social media platforms to inform their targeted ads. That’s not right for multiple reasons.
I’m a 56 year old heterosexual woman and I think he looks amazing. I’ve never assumed anything as it relates to others sexuality. I think clothes are just fabric to cover our bodies and don’t have anything to do with who we are. Wear whatever you like and feel as fabulous as you are.
I respect that he doesnt think he is a woman simply because he loves clothing associated with women. Also I have to disagree with the lady interjecting him and disregarding his comments. He isn't connected to the trans community in the sense that she was trying to forcefully explaining. It was disrespectful and completely disregarded his point. He did not discredit anyone nor offend anyone; in fact, his act just shows that a boy wanting to dress in an address isn't a girl in a boy's body, and thinking this way is what perpetuates sexist stereotypes. Ironically, the political statement the women is talking about isn't the political statement he is making.
She failed big time with ther comments of force. usually never does that but she became defensive. he was never disrespectful she was worried for her own following probably
thank you mark for this conversation. i truly enjoyed every single word of your authenticity. i have been watching StyleLikeU for years now and never have i heard the interviews "correcting" someone for what they said. even the description in the infobox it says "where he’s gone wrong with his language in the past. In real-time, he learns how to become a more effective ally" as if you hold the one and only truth that may not be questioned but also in your spoken word in the interview. the problem i have is not that you have a strong view, but that you are not sharing what you think would be the most helpful for everyone but reprehend mark for his "wrong" words. goes against everything that i love about this format.
Agree, straight females who wear pants or pantsuits aren’t required to define themselves in relation to the LGBTQIA community, so why should a straight male who wears skirts and heels? Nothing he says indicates he doesn’t respect the community or consider himself an ally. He simply says he’s not part of it. I would have preferred to listen to more of what he has to say than to what the interviewers wanted to say (or wanted him to say). It was kind of strange to hear a guest being “lectured”, as opposed to being able to share his viewpoint in his own way.
Came here to say this. When someone is making the vulnerable choice to undress, in a room with people who will remain clothed, (to say nothing of being recorded), while revealing their thoughts and feelings, there is an inherent power imbalance. To conduct this interview as they did, did not maintain a psychologically safe space for the interviewee... and isn't that the whole point of these conversations? Asking the subject to take a huge risk (and to trust the interviewers that they will feel safe while doing so) to the benefit of all of us watching? If we create vulnerable spaces, and ask folks to trust us, then we have an obligation to do our best to shepherd them safely through that experience... not correct the interviewee, or make them see our POV during their journey. This felt like a violation of trust to me. Thank goodness he actually responds (and then reflects again at the end) quite humbly, while making sure his intentions were not again misunderstood. Glad this is the only interview I've seen them do like this, but definitely not the way I would want us to treat men who are boldly doing societal-shifting work, nor any human choosing to reveal their inner and outer selves. *Super* valuable to realize who we owe gratitude to/ the price they paid for the freedoms we have now. Super valuable to excavate the reasons under our own potentially aversive reaction to being mis-identified with a certain group. And, my issue is that the way these two valuable ideas were presented seemed confrontational and non-supportive-of-continued-vulnerability to me... which is the only way these interviews can actually continue to be successful. *He* truly handled *their* mishandling of him so well... while he was undressed. Hope the interviewers can take in some of this feedback. They normally do a great job of creating supportive safety for their guests; I hope they'll take accountability with him, and go back to the care we are used to expecting from them. @@user-nz7ti9ch9p
Pants are oppressive and restricting for me. I have always preferred skirts, wraps and dresses. I feel more confident (read myself) in them. I have stopped wearing them since I moved from working in the arts to working in the mining industry. Pants are safer in an industrial setting mostly from being fear of being rejected in that community rather than being caught in the jaws of some massive machine. I am grateful for this story you have all shared. It has planted a bit of courage in me today.❤
This is great. I think we probably need more people like Mark Bryan, and to lean more into ushering people with differing understanding in rather than gatekeeping them. Great interview
This was an amazing, and insightful conversation. I applaud Mark for being his Authentic True Self. BTW, he is killing those skirts, and heels. He is on 🔥.
Men are soooo limited in what they can wear and still be accepted in "men's world". Clothes are so temporary, relax everybody. I wonder if Mark has ever tried kilts?
It is wild that at 11:45, you interjected meanwhile you recently uploaded a long-ass video of a man detailing all the ways he's fucked over women unchecked.
This had terrible leading interviewing skills; he wasn't even going in on anyone. This whole men's series is generally hit-and-miss. You can tell you made him uncomfortable, frankly unnecessarily, when around 14:00, he stumbles through an apology for something he didn't even necessarily do. It feels a little mal-assumptive and even a little ageist to jump down an older man's throat but leave younger men unchecked, assuming good intent.
@@colbyfortin6779 Honestly this is the first time I've watched an interview and been quite appalled by their rudeness. This is supposed to be a safe space for him to express himself in HIS words without being criticised. Great way to promote freedom of expression... 🙄 I totally switched off mentally from it after 11:50 from that point onwards it goes from being insightful to painfully awkward and I didn't subscribe to the channel to see that from the creators. Very disappointing
@@DanjaundTomBut he has his own platform to clarify his point and I guess he'll still be featured on many other platforms doing more straight forward interviews. To me this didn't feel like "giving him a chance" but pressuring him into an apology or expecting some very specific answer from him. Something I am not used to from this channel.
I suggest people research ancient tribal clothes from Mexico, Brazil and Colombia. Masculine men wore elaborate feathers, wore large hooped earings, sarong dresses and makeup. They would resemble what modern society thinks is ‘feminine’ but they were hyper macho. To them clothes was about conveying power. To me it makes sense high heels conveys ‘power’, and empowerment.
Kings have worn heels. Louis XIV allowed people in his favour to wear special red heels. Maybe that’s where Louboutin got his idea from for the soles of his shoes.
In most cultures men wear " skirts". Indonesia and bali they have sarong and izar, india they have a lungi, Scotland they have kilts, indigenous people as well. Theres a practicality to having fabric that covers but can be lifted esp when people are closer to nature in all they do including elimination and in places where there are no toilet systems...but thats a side note.
As a woman who wears traditionally male clothing a lot (the jeans fit better) and raising a daughter who I never force into tutus, pinks, and unicorns, I receive so many questions about what gender I’m raising my child or why she’s in boy clothes or people misgendering her. And I always say it has nothing to do with gender or sexuality, clothes are clothes and we wear what we like. Not to dismiss LGBTQ+, but fighting against patriarchy and gender roles is a fight for all of us. He is not trans or sharing the totality of that experience by experimenting with heals so I understand the discrepancy. Being PC is learned, even by those with ill intentions so I see his heart in how he lives. A women’s football team?!!! Cmon now 🎉🎉
In my day we’d call people like this Queer and it was a compliment. It’s not about who you sleep with but Queer used to mean dating to be you in a radical way. Despite what our community tells us. I’d like to bring that back. Even if this man doesn’t want that label there has to be room for people who do things like this and who they sleep with is not part of the title nor is it any of our business
I’m loving loving loving! the style. So so much. This is the future. Everyone just doing their thing no matter what old labels or stereotypes might have defined.
I can look past the previous misguided comments he's made because he presents another challenge to enduring norms around clothing. I bristle at the notion of anyone not having a (air quotes) feminine part of themselves I just think his presentation modulates all aspects of himself in ways that work for him and that is cool! I wish people wouldn't look at someone they've just met and assert their sexuality whether that person actually might be cis and entirely heteronormative otherwise or not. I hear you try to walk him to the point of not cleaving a distinction between the nature/impact of the kind of personal self expression he is making but (and I think this is the heteronormativity rearing its head) but it being about *just* clothes for him is a reflection of his own privilege. His being able to "risk" his presentation in the workplace is an AFFORDANCE and I don't think he's quite getting it.
100% this, I got the same sense from the interview. I’m glad they pushed him a little on this because I think it also helps all of us viewers confront the topic, too.
Yes. Like, imagine asserting your white male privilege so far as to want the same rights as marginalized people have and are fighting for, but in the same breath not wanting to be viewed as or mistakenly associated with those marginalized folks. Smh 🤦🏾♀️
This absolutely *and* I also see his logic, given the I think safe assumption of how he was raised as a cis straight man, it makes sense that his own point of reference is to not align completely because it allows for a perception from the onlooker against what he’s trying to portray. And I love that style like u did a good job of introducing the privilege and duty of allyship he’s responsible for as a straight man in a skirt and stilettos. All in all, so interesting and I think hes heading toward the right place. I hope more conversations about this gives him space to understand the break down of how he feels and the responsibility his clothing choices politically hold.
I love your series but can no longer watch because I don't support Better Help due to its ties to Israel and past handling of user data. Thanks for your curiosity and exploration.
Three class action lawsuits currently against them due to client information sharing...underpaying therapists so the good ones leave...all while targeting a vulnerable, sensitive audience. How does this channel condone these things? Style is great but good character is better.
I didn't know about this, thanks for being vocal so I can look more into this. Do you know if Style Like U has officially responded to these concerns about them taking sponsorship from BetterHelp?
Israel has a right to exist. It is not perfect but neither is the country you come from. And the Israelis have many technological inventions that benefit the world. You are welcome to give up any of them and move on with your life.😅
This man is so brilliant and vital and his naiveties on the issues are not of malice but are indicative of changing tides. The fact that he can exist APART from the queer and trans communities, means that SOMETHING is happening. I am so proud of this man for his own personal evolution. His honesty and intentions are something ANY person could aspire to. Thank you Marc. You are so inspirational and so loved. A pioneer of gender expression in fashion and social expectation for so many. I love this series and I thank everyone involved with as full of a gratitude as I can readily express. ❤
It's so insane that we even have to have this conversarion. It should be something obvious. I never understood the obsession with girls wearing pink and boys wearing blue.
I mean clothes have no sexuality or gender, that's society constantly putting labels on things when people should just be whatever they want. Not hurting anyone else. Also European men used to wear heels for a long time.
Good for him, also props to being happy and comfortable wearing heels. Every time I wear them as a woman I hate them, I respect people who enjoy wearing them and wear them well.
I enjoyed hearing what he had to say, but I don’t think the interviewer did a particularly good job here. It felt like they didn’t understand the point he was try to make and then became hostile.
I started wearing kits and heels in Sydney Aust in 1969. Now aged 69 I am still wearing the same only difference is I transitioned years ago. My oldest sister uses my name I chose. Never happier . Fate neh
I dream of a world where people can freely wear what brings them joy. Clothing is a form of expression and is art. May we work on building that type of world we want to see!
The only judgement I have about what he wears is that heels are so uncomfortable I don’t know why anyone would wear them willingly. I work with drag queens who complain about them constantly.
Yes! They look really nice but whooo! I'm also a female with a small, wide foot so most of them are a no for me because the toes are always too narrow for me! Aggravating! I stick to wedges.
I love what this channel does and I was excited to see this episode, but at this point, you need to drop the Better Help sponsorship. I understand that channels need sponsors to make a profit, but Better Help has had so many issues with the kind of "therapy" they provide, not to mention they're an Israeli company that is offering free "therapy" (I'm using this word liberally) for Israelis amidst a genocide.
The director comments are spot on! This capture so much of the complexity around clothes and gender/sexuality as performance. They can be an expression of each other but clothes can also just be clothes. Yet, the politics around how certain bodies are more vulnerable to violence cannot be denied.
Fantastic. Live YOUR life!! We only get one...I was so hoping to see him walk in the heels though. Love watching people walk in heels. I don't wear heels anymore....I could, but I roll my ankle too damn much!
you know its not all about oppression I mean the fact that he does that without fear maybe means we are farther along in society than those who constantly bring up the oppression Olympics like to think you don't always have to pathologize reasons why people do things or project all of these reasons why he does or doesn't say things exactly how an ALLY should he's just a dude in a skirt like he said and that's fucking fabulous
love mark! was not aware of the controversy. was it last year? coz had some connectivity issues. glad he's an ally. he just doesn't want to be forced into anything. but u had a nice and insightful exchange. also, another guest who scored a goal on that last q. that phrase and other equivalents are turning out to be passé. thankyou for another illuminating episode, e and l. plus u have an exclusive of him in the garterbelt. ❤🎉
Societal norms dictating who gets what. But in the end, it's just clothes. My son isn't interested in wearing heels, but he happily shops in both the women's and men's department. If he likes it and can find his size, he's going to wear it. haha But I must say that he is extremely disappointed in pants generally targeted for women. No pockets!🤣 My daughter shops the way, but the stigma is not as obnoxious for girls/women as it is for boys/men.
I've felt, since my late teen years, {most likely it started when Kurt Cobain came into the limelight around 1993/94} that gender norms such as females wear heels, skirts, makeup, lace/thong undies, etc. & men DON'T, didn't make any sense to me. The lack of self expression available to men is stifling. This gentleman right here, in my book, is the sh*t. {in a good way}
Men throughout history have worn all source of different clothing..it’s only recently that it’s been so restrictive for them. Women can wear a suit or a dress..they should have the same freedom.
Yes but it's only in recent history, (the last century) that women wearing men's clothes is socially acceptable. Women wearing pants now does not cause a stir, but it did back then. Let's not act like women have always have endless freedom to express themselves through their appearance.
You look bloody fantastic! And you coach girls? You are a very classy man. Some of the world's most "masculine" men wear kilts. There is guy who drywalls in a kilt. And over the centuries and years, skirts as well as other what we now call and see as feminine style and apparel were regularly utilized by men. Speaking as a gender fluid woman, I think of what you said about liking how the woman looked in hills and felt confident. So why are we programmed to keep ourselves separate from what we admire in another rather than integrate that? I have worn hills. I am not the biggest fan of them on me personally, but I LOVE to wear boots! For this same reason, that they make me feel confident. And I am sure you are helping more than you know. So glad your children are proud of you, too!
His view is surprisingly nuanced. "I don't want to reinforce the notion that culturally feminized clothing = LGBTQ." And he's right: anti-trans violence isn't about the clothes, not entirely. I would argue that it's about the challenge to assumptions about gender roles, what is "natural", and who you're allowed to bully in this culture. Great interview, thank you.
I love this! I knew a cis male who loved what he called “cross dressing”. He was a man who loved women and also loved women’s clothes. It’s so refreshing to see this getting positive media attention so we can abolish ideas about gendered clothing. Thank you, sir!
These Men do not love Women.
It’s still heavily gendered but it’s ok. I’m a woman and I like to wear ties every now and then, it’s okay to wear clothes typically attributed to the opposite gender sometimes, or all the time.
“Me wearing a skirt should be the least of your worries.”
He’s absolutely right. Let him enjoy a skirt and heels and women in peace❤
Absolutely agree with him, but man …does it look weird
@@gosiagorecka3454 It only looks weird because in your head you don't think men should wear skirts. It's just clothing, clothing shouldn't be gendered. If you open your mind a little bit and realize it's just fabric, it doesn't change who he is as a person, then it should become less weird. Why is it okay for women to wear suits and still be considered feminine but it isn't okay for men to wear dresses and skirts and still be considered manly?
@@coletteandtulip as much as this man has a right to wear a skirt and feel good about it- I have a right to feel weird about it. Or not? Freedom of self expression and feeling is only allowed to some and not others?
@@gosiagorecka3454 You are free to feel what you want. Feeling weird is generally considered to be a negative emotion and I was challenging you on why you're having a negative emotion to something that isn't really negative. Wouldn't you rather not feel weird to see men in skirts? Isn't being happy for them a more positive emotion to feel? It's up to you to how you want to feel about it. I was just offering you a chance to change a negative emotion into a positive one.
@@coletteandtulipit's not negative. It's rational something you democrats don't have
This just emphasizes the dualism of clothing. On a personal level, it can help you express yourself. But simultaneously, gender-limiting clothing is arbitrary, as fashion and social norms changes over time. Men wore dresses and heels for centuries. Some people are so limited.
😂😂the "woke" never fail to crack me up
So agree with you. Just wear what you want. People will judge no matter what!
IKR - show me a mentally healthy girl who wouldn't mind her man dressing like this. @@EsmeraldaWolfsbane7777
I feel that on so many levels, I buy mens clothes because they are often cheaper and better quality, aimed with more respect and less whimsical fast fashion. I feel angry that this is the way our options are.
@@EsmeraldaWolfsbane7777 At least you admit you're cracked up.
a beautiful interview. when he is describing his college girlfriend, their after class dancing, her open-mindedness. i am thankful that the women in his life have allowed him to express his femininity via clothing (heels/skirts). just beautiful. thanks style like u. :-)
“Me wearing a skirt should be the least of your worries, we should be worried about racism, we should be worried about wars, we should be worried about people starving…” , what a great human 🙌🏾
i never thought about a bloke in heels before. not even doing drag, he’s just dressing normal.
it’s really nice to see. esp since he seems genuinely confident and sure of himself.
He’s doing what most people don’t have the confidence to do. So many people want to live their life a certain way but are scared of what others will say.
I love this. Traditional western gender expression is not the end all be all. Many things we view as traditionally masculine or feminine is very specific to white Anglo-Saxon protestant views and beliefs. Indigenous cultures around the word have expressed gender in very different ways.
Well said!
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Now as a black woman you should know that’s not true. Most traditional eastern cultures have very binary gender norms that were there long before the introduction of European influence. I hate to see y’all so proudly misinformed.
@@WilliamsPinch Perhaps that’s your failed interpretation of information. Traditionally, while most indigenous cultures do recognize and practiced binary gender roles-those roles and the family structure do not mimic western norms. Studying the tribes of Omo Valley in Ethiopia I saw the practice of men adorning themselves with jewelry, making themselves, beautiful, and presenting themselves to the women so that they may attract a mate. Many forms of body modification such as scarification, face tattoos, lip plates, neck rings, etc are not viewed as feminine or particularly beautiful in the west-yet in many indigenous tribes these practices are seen as beauty enhancements. There are endless examples and resources that support my statement. I hope that you continue to research and broaden your perspective.✌🏾
Let’s talk about how great it will be when men can wear what they want in public.
Also how great it will be when women can wear what they want! Clothing that doesn't need to be feminine, figure flattering, form fitting, and with non existent pockets. I also want to wear baggy clothes and cargo pants and still be considered professional.
@@thebonniewong of course mam, we all should not be judged for wearing what we each feel good in.
Amen
No.
Lets talk about how degenerate this is!
In the almost 9 years of being non-binary, what i have learned is “gender expression does not equal gender identity” and that has been so freeing to me in what I feel comfortable wearing regardless of my gender and sexual orientation.
He likes to wear a skirt and heels, but he’s still a straight cis man, and he rocks the look in his own way. His smile and confidence makes him look really awesome and badass in his outfits.
I can’t wear heels like he does. Im like a new born deer with vertigo on ice.🤣🤣🤣 Sneakers, dress shoes, and boots are what i wear.
I'm a cis woman and I wish I could rock heels as comfortably as he does.
Ikr
Mark, you are gorgeous!! I so appreciate the nuance and authenticity of this conversation, especially around the 12:00 minute mark with the discussion of the queer community and clothing. I appreciate that Mark shares his view on it and even if it doesn’t “land” or he doesn’t speak about it in the way the community normally would, I like that he is trying and he is being true to himself. He is still a masculine cis straight man in this society and so his viewpoint comes from that place - and that’s what makes his clothing choices that much more interesting. I think he is uncomfortable with the assumption and misunderstanding of his sexuality, not the fact that it’s the queer community he is being lumped together with. No one likes to be misunderstood or misrepresented. I hope he sees though that the fact that he hasn’t received negative repercussions because he is upholding some semblance of “masculinity” (maybe that he isn’t one to be messed with, for example) is part of the societal problem and that folks who maybe don’t portray that masculinity are therefore still vulnerable.
And I love that StyleLikeU confronts him on this topic, uses inclusive language, etc. Just such a good interview all around, I love love love it ❤❤
I love this perspective, great thoughts!!
This just fills me with joy! I love seeing folks wear whatever they want. It always felt so strange to me that it isn't broadly socially acceptable for men to wear dresses/skirts. Especially because men have a tendency to have smaller thighs (in general) and so there is less of a tendency for the uncomfortable upper thigh rub.
Thank you for showing people who walk to the beat to their own drum. He looks amazing in his confidence!
I’ve followed him for years! He slays! I really love how he expresses himself. It’s incredible
Men like this made the cost of size 13 heels come down tremendously after 35 yrs of having to spend $60 a pair through only one vendor. Being 6'1 very feminine woman who is just not a great tailor wore men's shirts many years. Now with neuromuscular disease only wear walking shoes and slacks...stable footing and protecting knees from scrapes , not getting cane tangled in a skirt. Really wish people would just accept the person, not the clothes.
I love this. Fuck societal standards, do what make you feel good and hurt no one.
I concur with your sentiment 100% ❤ Australia
Exactly. I wish trans folk would stop the nonsense and accept themselves enough to express their true self without trying to gaslight everyone into thinking that they can ever change s*x.
You don't have to change s*x to fit in. This is not the 1950s. Your can redefine what a man looks like, but you can never redefine what everyone else is just so it fits your narrative.
Absolutely. They're just pieces of cloth on our bodies. Why are we categorizing and isolating people over them!
Absolutely 💯 percent
Love that he just doesn’t care what people think.
My Grandmother put me into my first pair of high heels on my 13th birthday with the explanation that I was now a teenager and it was better to get used to them early. I worked in heels. I socialised in heels. I am five foot tall and late 50's and still love my heels so I can completely understand his feelings about them! Wear what the heck you want but do it with style and grace.
I’ll admit I felt uncomfortable with the interviewer’s discussion starting around 12:00; it wasn’t the topic but the way the content and ideologies were asserted.
Me too! It felt like the interviewer didn’t fully grasp what he was saying and became unnecessarily hostile.
they gaslight and forced him into an apology
I adore everything about him, wish they focused on him not everyone else. He makes perfect sense to me
Hey Style Like You, how can your viewer community help you drop Better Help as a sponsor due their incredibly problematic and harmful practices? We know therapy can be a great tool for many many people, and that you probably depend on sponsors to produce video - however it matters which corporations you choose to take money from.
Agreed, thank you for saying this, I was just about to note it myself. BetterHelp has been caught selling patient data to social media platforms to inform their targeted ads. That’s not right for multiple reasons.
They also don't pay their Medical Providers fairly.
I was looking for another comment like this. Thanks for calling it out.
I’m a 56 year old heterosexual woman and I think he looks amazing. I’ve never assumed anything as it relates to others sexuality. I think clothes are just fabric to cover our bodies and don’t have anything to do with who we are. Wear whatever you like and feel as fabulous as you are.
I wish I knew more about his childhood and his parents because he’s one of kind and mentally he’s beyond open minded.
not everyone who’s different needs to be a spokesperson. He really is just a normal straight cis dude who looks drop dead in pantyhose.
🎉 I have been searching for the right comment and this is it.
I respect that he doesnt think he is a woman simply because he loves clothing associated with women. Also I have to disagree with the lady interjecting him and disregarding his comments. He isn't connected to the trans community in the sense that she was trying to forcefully explaining. It was disrespectful and completely disregarded his point. He did not discredit anyone nor offend anyone; in fact, his act just shows that a boy wanting to dress in an address isn't a girl in a boy's body, and thinking this way is what perpetuates sexist stereotypes. Ironically, the political statement the women is talking about isn't the political statement he is making.
She failed big time with ther comments of force. usually never does that but she became defensive. he was never disrespectful she was worried for her own following probably
He seems to have a true understanding of himself and sense of integrity. Incredibly refreshing
He reminds me of my grandfather - stoic, honest, humble, but unafraid of vulnerability. A very admirable way to be
thank you mark for this conversation. i truly enjoyed every single word of your authenticity.
i have been watching StyleLikeU for years now and never have i heard the interviews "correcting" someone for what they said. even the description in the infobox it says "where he’s gone wrong with his language in the past. In real-time, he learns how to become a more effective ally" as if you hold the one and only truth that may not be questioned but also in your spoken word in the interview. the problem i have is not that you have a strong view, but that you are not sharing what you think would be the most helpful for everyone but reprehend mark for his "wrong" words. goes against everything that i love about this format.
I noticed that as well
Agree, straight females who wear pants or pantsuits aren’t required to define themselves in relation to the LGBTQIA community, so why should a straight male who wears skirts and heels? Nothing he says indicates he doesn’t respect the community or consider himself an ally. He simply says he’s not part of it. I would have preferred to listen to more of what he has to say than to what the interviewers wanted to say (or wanted him to say). It was kind of strange to hear a guest being “lectured”, as opposed to being able to share his viewpoint in his own way.
I would also appreciate if she didn't insert her words and thoughts into his mouth. Thank you for pointing this out.
Came here to say this. When someone is making the vulnerable choice to undress, in a room with people who will remain clothed, (to say nothing of being recorded), while revealing their thoughts and feelings, there is an inherent power imbalance. To conduct this interview as they did, did not maintain a psychologically safe space for the interviewee... and isn't that the whole point of these conversations? Asking the subject to take a huge risk (and to trust the interviewers that they will feel safe while doing so) to the benefit of all of us watching? If we create vulnerable spaces, and ask folks to trust us, then we have an obligation to do our best to shepherd them safely through that experience... not correct the interviewee, or make them see our POV during their journey. This felt like a violation of trust to me. Thank goodness he actually responds (and then reflects again at the end) quite humbly, while making sure his intentions were not again misunderstood. Glad this is the only interview I've seen them do like this, but definitely not the way I would want us to treat men who are boldly doing societal-shifting work, nor any human choosing to reveal their inner and outer selves.
*Super* valuable to realize who we owe gratitude to/ the price they paid for the freedoms we have now. Super valuable to excavate the reasons under our own potentially aversive reaction to being mis-identified with a certain group. And, my issue is that the way these two valuable ideas were presented seemed confrontational and non-supportive-of-continued-vulnerability to me... which is the only way these interviews can actually continue to be successful. *He* truly handled *their* mishandling of him so well... while he was undressed. Hope the interviewers can take in some of this feedback. They normally do a great job of creating supportive safety for their guests; I hope they'll take accountability with him, and go back to the care we are used to expecting from them. @@user-nz7ti9ch9p
Pants are oppressive and restricting for me. I have always preferred skirts, wraps and dresses. I feel more confident (read myself) in them. I have stopped wearing them since I moved from working in the arts to working in the mining industry. Pants are safer in an industrial setting mostly from being fear of being rejected in that community rather than being caught in the jaws of some massive machine. I am grateful for this story you have all shared. It has planted a bit of courage in me today.❤
Get looser pants then if they're crushing your balls
Mark Bryan is a wonderful human being. He has a great style and outfits. His Instagram is inspirational and great. Happy Holiday's.❤
This is great. I think we probably need more people like Mark Bryan, and to lean more into ushering people with differing understanding in rather than gatekeeping them. Great interview
This was an amazing, and insightful conversation. I applaud Mark for being his Authentic True Self. BTW, he is killing those skirts, and heels. He is on 🔥.
I love his confidence in being himself. I think the way he dresses is awesome and he knows what he is doing with his outfits.
Men are soooo limited in what they can wear and still be accepted in "men's world". Clothes are so temporary, relax everybody. I wonder if Mark has ever tried kilts?
It is wild that at 11:45, you interjected meanwhile you recently uploaded a long-ass video of a man detailing all the ways he's fucked over women unchecked.
This had terrible leading interviewing skills; he wasn't even going in on anyone. This whole men's series is generally hit-and-miss. You can tell you made him uncomfortable, frankly unnecessarily, when around 14:00, he stumbles through an apology for something he didn't even necessarily do. It feels a little mal-assumptive and even a little ageist to jump down an older man's throat but leave younger men unchecked, assuming good intent.
@@colbyfortin6779 Honestly this is the first time I've watched an interview and been quite appalled by their rudeness. This is supposed to be a safe space for him to express himself in HIS words without being criticised. Great way to promote freedom of expression... 🙄 I totally switched off mentally from it after 11:50 from that point onwards it goes from being insightful to painfully awkward and I didn't subscribe to the channel to see that from the creators. Very disappointing
Im quite happy they did that as he has been heavily criticised for this exactly so this gave him a chance to clear things up.
@@DanjaundTomBut he has his own platform to clarify his point and I guess he'll still be featured on many other platforms doing more straight forward interviews.
To me this didn't feel like "giving him a chance" but pressuring him into an apology or expecting some very specific answer from him. Something I am not used to from this channel.
I found it appalling how they tried to gaslight him a corner him with "education"
I completed the interview and I respect him …. Let him enjoy who he wants to be 🥰
I suggest people research ancient tribal clothes from Mexico, Brazil and Colombia. Masculine men wore elaborate feathers, wore large hooped earings, sarong dresses and makeup. They would resemble what modern society thinks is ‘feminine’ but they were hyper macho. To them clothes was about conveying power. To me it makes sense high heels conveys ‘power’, and empowerment.
Kings have worn heels. Louis XIV allowed people in his favour to wear special red heels. Maybe that’s where Louboutin got his idea from for the soles of his shoes.
In most cultures men wear " skirts". Indonesia and bali they have sarong and izar, india they have a lungi, Scotland they have kilts, indigenous people as well. Theres a practicality to having fabric that covers but can be lifted esp when people are closer to nature in all they do including elimination and in places where there are no toilet systems...but thats a side note.
So true, men have been wearing dresses since the beginning of time! Rock on - BE YOUR TRUE SELF!
As a woman who wears traditionally male clothing a lot (the jeans fit better) and raising a daughter who I never force into tutus, pinks, and unicorns, I receive so many questions about what gender I’m raising my child or why she’s in boy clothes or people misgendering her. And I always say it has nothing to do with gender or sexuality, clothes are clothes and we wear what we like. Not to dismiss LGBTQ+, but fighting against patriarchy and gender roles is a fight for all of us. He is not trans or sharing the totality of that experience by experimenting with heals so I understand the discrepancy. Being PC is learned, even by those with ill intentions so I see his heart in how he lives. A women’s football team?!!! Cmon now 🎉🎉
Can we please take a moment for his choice of skirt and heels- I approve
I love that! 🤯He likes heels! I can't stand heels. I feel empowered in my Birkenstocks and high tops. Love it!
I really wish that the transition of men tapping into female clothes would go a little bit faster.
In my day we’d call people like this Queer and it was a compliment. It’s not about who you sleep with but Queer used to mean dating to be you in a radical way. Despite what our community tells us. I’d like to bring that back. Even if this man doesn’t want that label there has to be room for people who do things like this and who they sleep with is not part of the title nor is it any of our business
Best legs ever.
Thank you so much for sharing this experience. I mirror myself so much in you and I have always struggled to find anyone to relate to
I have worn both long and short skirts for 30 years. I dont give a stuff what people think. I have had lots of compliments.
I like that his shoes aren't cheap from a sex shop. He has style
@8:19 stop trying to force labels on him!! He said what he said
I’m loving loving loving! the style. So so much. This is the future. Everyone just doing their thing no matter what old labels or stereotypes might have defined.
He does have great legs
He’s got a set of legs like damn!!!!!! 😂😂😂
I can look past the previous misguided comments he's made because he presents another challenge to enduring norms around clothing. I bristle at the notion of anyone not having a (air quotes) feminine part of themselves I just think his presentation modulates all aspects of himself in ways that work for him and that is cool! I wish people wouldn't look at someone they've just met and assert their sexuality whether that person actually might be cis and entirely heteronormative otherwise or not.
I hear you try to walk him to the point of not cleaving a distinction between the nature/impact of the kind of personal self expression he is making but (and I think this is the heteronormativity rearing its head) but it being about *just* clothes for him is a reflection of his own privilege. His being able to "risk" his presentation in the workplace is an AFFORDANCE and I don't think he's quite getting it.
100% this, I got the same sense from the interview. I’m glad they pushed him a little on this because I think it also helps all of us viewers confront the topic, too.
Yes. Like, imagine asserting your white male privilege so far as to want the same rights as marginalized people have and are fighting for, but in the same breath not wanting to be viewed as or mistakenly associated with those marginalized folks. Smh 🤦🏾♀️
That part.
This absolutely *and* I also see his logic, given the I think safe assumption of how he was raised as a cis straight man, it makes sense that his own point of reference is to not align completely because it allows for a perception from the onlooker against what he’s trying to portray. And I love that style like u did a good job of introducing the privilege and duty of allyship he’s responsible for as a straight man in a skirt and stilettos.
All in all, so interesting and I think hes heading toward the right place. I hope more conversations about this gives him space to understand the break down of how he feels and the responsibility his clothing choices politically hold.
I love your series but can no longer watch because I don't support Better Help due to its ties to Israel and past handling of user data. Thanks for your curiosity and exploration.
Three class action lawsuits currently against them due to client information sharing...underpaying therapists so the good ones leave...all while targeting a vulnerable, sensitive audience. How does this channel condone these things? Style is great but good character is better.
Capitalism ruins everything
I didn't know about this, thanks for being vocal so I can look more into this. Do you know if Style Like U has officially responded to these concerns about them taking sponsorship from BetterHelp?
@@princesspeach1698 Not a word...
Israel has a right to exist. It is not perfect but neither is the country you come from. And the Israelis have many technological inventions that benefit the world. You are welcome to give up any of them and move on with your life.😅
He does a hell of a good job styling his heels and skirt! Really classy!!
This man is so brilliant and vital and his naiveties on the issues are not of malice but are indicative of changing tides. The fact that he can exist APART from the queer and trans communities, means that SOMETHING is happening. I am so proud of this man for his own personal evolution. His honesty and intentions are something ANY person could aspire to. Thank you Marc. You are so inspirational and so loved. A pioneer of gender expression in fashion and social expectation for so many. I love this series and I thank everyone involved with as full of a gratitude as I can readily express. ❤
FABULOUS! This hits it out of the ballpark!
I dunno HOW I got to this corner of the internet, but I am *STAYING*
Sounds like a guy who just loves and appreciates a shoe type 🤷🏻♀️
It's so insane that we even have to have this conversarion. It should be something obvious. I never understood the obsession with girls wearing pink and boys wearing blue.
He ate those pumps down 👏🏾
I’m saying!!!!!! 😂🙌🏽
@katelynbrown3404😂😂😂😂 period!!!!
I love this. Anything that helps you feel happy and confident is good if you aren’t hurting anybody.
This man is as real as they come
I mean clothes have no sexuality or gender, that's society constantly putting labels on things when people should just be whatever they want. Not hurting anyone else. Also European men used to wear heels for a long time.
This is beautiful. Gender is a construct, wear whatever you want!
Good for him, also props to being happy and comfortable wearing heels. Every time I wear them as a woman I hate them, I respect people who enjoy wearing them and wear them well.
Your videos are always so healing. Thank you
I feel this way as a man in heels and it’s surreal hearing a masculine man express this ❤
A few hundred years ago, men wore high heels all the time. It was the norm. I see nothing wrong with it
He looks very elegant...
There are so many combinations of ways to be, inside and out. I love that about being a human!
just a shame the interviewer kept pressuring him to accept the LGBT community when his message isn't that - therefore joining his group of "haters"
I enjoyed hearing what he had to say, but I don’t think the interviewer did a particularly good job here. It felt like they didn’t understand the point he was try to make and then became hostile.
I started wearing kits and heels in Sydney Aust in 1969. Now aged 69 I am still wearing the same only difference is I transitioned years ago. My oldest sister uses my name I chose. Never happier . Fate neh
Living in your OWN truth takes courage in this world! Blessings
LOVE THIS GUY.....Thank you this was great.
a thousand times yes
I dream of a world where people can freely wear what brings them joy. Clothing is a form of expression and is art. May we work on building that type of world we want to see!
The only judgement I have about what he wears is that heels are so uncomfortable I don’t know why anyone would wear them willingly. I work with drag queens who complain about them constantly.
Yes! They look really nice but whooo! I'm also a female with a small, wide foot so most of them are a no for me because the toes are always too narrow for me! Aggravating! I stick to wedges.
I have to agree-- heels are great for the pictures, but not for living. LOL
I love what this channel does and I was excited to see this episode, but at this point, you need to drop the Better Help sponsorship. I understand that channels need sponsors to make a profit, but Better Help has had so many issues with the kind of "therapy" they provide, not to mention they're an Israeli company that is offering free "therapy" (I'm using this word liberally) for Israelis amidst a genocide.
this man is absolutely brilliant.
This might seem silly but in these interviews I feel distracted by them having to sit on that hard high stool for so long - looks uncomfy! Just me? 🤣
The director comments are spot on! This capture so much of the complexity around clothes and gender/sexuality as performance. They can be an expression of each other but clothes can also just be clothes. Yet, the politics around how certain bodies are more vulnerable to violence cannot be denied.
This guy is bad ass
And I wish ppl didn’t bully him into thier political views-
The world won't end because Mark is wearing a skirt and high heels. We have bigger problems to worry about. Correct!
Fantastic. Live YOUR life!! We only get one...I was so hoping to see him walk in the heels though. Love watching people walk in heels. I don't wear heels anymore....I could, but I roll my ankle too damn much!
The heels look great on him. I cant believe be wears them to work all day . His feet must hurt after work.
you know its not all about oppression I mean the fact that he does that without fear maybe means we are farther along in society than those who constantly bring up the oppression Olympics like to think you don't always have to pathologize reasons why people do things or project all of these reasons why he does or doesn't say things exactly how an ALLY should he's just a dude in a skirt like he said and that's fucking fabulous
Omg yesss! I've been following Mark for so long
love mark! was not aware of the controversy. was it last year? coz had some connectivity issues. glad he's an ally. he just doesn't want to be forced into anything. but u had a nice and insightful exchange. also, another guest who scored a goal on that last q. that phrase and other equivalents are turning out to be passé. thankyou for another illuminating episode, e and l. plus u have an exclusive of him in the garterbelt. ❤🎉
i love mark!!!!! so awesome to have him on here
I follow him and SM and his style is 🔥
Societal norms dictating who gets what. But in the end, it's just clothes. My son isn't interested in wearing heels, but he happily shops in both the women's and men's department. If he likes it and can find his size, he's going to wear it. haha But I must say that he is extremely disappointed in pants generally targeted for women. No pockets!🤣 My daughter shops the way, but the stigma is not as obnoxious for girls/women as it is for boys/men.
I've felt, since my late teen years, {most likely it started when Kurt Cobain came into the limelight around 1993/94} that gender norms such as females wear heels, skirts, makeup, lace/thong undies, etc. & men DON'T, didn't make any sense to me. The lack of self expression available to men is stifling. This gentleman right here, in my book, is the sh*t. {in a good way}
Mark God was showing off when you were made.
You are a Love.
I smiled the entire vlog.
Mark you are a Love ❤
You have Fabulous Legs ❤
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Men throughout history have worn all source of different clothing..it’s only recently that it’s been so restrictive for them. Women can wear a suit or a dress..they should have the same freedom.
Yes but it's only in recent history, (the last century) that women wearing men's clothes is socially acceptable. Women wearing pants now does not cause a stir, but it did back then. Let's not act like women have always have endless freedom to express themselves through their appearance.
What a legend ❤
You look bloody fantastic! And you coach girls? You are a very classy man. Some of the world's most "masculine" men wear kilts. There is guy who drywalls in a kilt. And over the centuries and years, skirts as well as other what we now call and see as feminine style and apparel were regularly utilized by men. Speaking as a gender fluid woman,
I think of what you said about liking how the woman looked in hills and felt confident. So why are we programmed to keep ourselves separate from what we admire in another rather than integrate that? I have worn hills. I am not the biggest fan of them on me personally, but I LOVE to wear boots! For this same reason, that they make me feel confident.
And I am sure you are helping more than you know. So glad your children are proud of you, too!