One of the cheeriest military marches. Doesn't sound as tough as Kognigratzker Marsch or Hohenfriedberger, but it sounds like a march from a victorious army coming home after a battle.
@@svenskathule8434 Which proves absolutely nothing. Many Finnish first names are imported - like in so many other countries. Many names have e.g. biblical origins - like mine - despite of the Finnish form. During the Swedish time - and probably even before it - many names of especially Scandinavian origin were used, Sven included. And even if the name was originally Finnish/in Finnish form, many Swedish-speaking priests wrote it down into the church register in Swedish form - e.g. Matti>Mats, Antti>Anders, Jussi>Johan etc. Ordinary people, like Sven, didn't have/need/use any proper surnames. They either used the name of the house (mostly in Western Finland) as an additional name and/or patronyms (especially in Eastern Finland). However only when/if they went into the military, they needed an official surname. Often the officer/NCO registering the recruit's name just looked at the guy and gave him a suitable Swedish-language surname just there. Often - but not always - the name given was either militaristic (Skjöld/Shield, Svärd/Sword, Ståhl/Steel) or descriptive (Lång/Long, Stark/Strong, Tapper/Brave). Dufva however means dove, so not really militaristic at all. Perhaps it is supposed to give some hint of his personality. Anyway we must remember, that in reality Sven Dufva might not have existed - at least not by that name. The author of "The Tales of Ensign Stål" was a Swedish-speaker and he wrote in Swedish. It is totally possible, that he might have given a real Finnish soldier a Swedish name just for (his) convenience. And finally: after centuries of changing names and languages back and forth, it is now quite common to have Finnish-speaking Finns with Swedish first and/or surnames. And sometimes the Swedish-speaking Finns can have Finnish names too. Based on the name only, you can't be sure, what is the native language of an individual in Finland.
@@wt380 No, I don't know, because - Bång was born on 19.4.1782 in Lohja, Finland - after the war he moved to Sweden (proper) - obviously he didn't die in the war, but he was wounded - he was not in close combat with the Russians on the bridge as "Sven Dufva" - some(!) people consider Bång as the model for Dufva - today the consensus is, that Runeberg didn't use anybody as a model, and the character of Sven Dufva is fictional -
"Kungen samlar manskapet och håller ett obegripligt tal på dålig finska. Han frågar med hjälp av en finsk tolk om soldaterna är beredda att följa honom i liv och död. "Vi följer i liv och död", svarar fotfolket och kungen svarar "Suuri kiitos, pojat" på begriplig finska."
Aidan Cox man kan ju bara önska att svenska folket skulle behöva stå upp för sig själva på det sättet igen. Det skulle rensa bade gener & sinnen till det normalaw.
@user3141592635, You are right. This picture is clearly describing the battle at the Koljonvirta bridge in 27th of October in 1808. There was a ceasefire, which the Russians ended one hour earlier than the Finns were expecting, because the Russian clocks were using a different time-zone than the Finnish clocks. The ending time had been agreeded earlier, but not the time-zone by which this endig time would follow. So the Russians started to attack so early, that the Finns had had not enough time to destroy the bridge. The first group of the Russians almost crossed the bridge, but Johan Zacharias Bång managed alone to stop them. The bridge was very narrow, and that explaines, why one man could be an obstacle. Bång stopped also the next two Russian attacks, but then he got wounded and fell. The Russians run over him, but this short time period had been enough long so, that the Finnish reserves were there to push the Russians back. The Swedish Sandels was the winner of this small but famous battle. The Finnish sentence "äl' yli päästä perhanaa" (don't let blasted Russia to cross the bridge") is from this battle and might it have been said by Sandels. On thre other hand this might also have been just an invention of Runeberg, the poet. The leader of the Russians was count Dologorukov, a very talented young man, whose family was expecting him to make a briliant military career. He was killed here and his family rose a beautiful monument to the place, where he died. In the poem of Runeberg the hero at Koljonvirta is Sven Dufva and he dies at that bridge. But Bång only wounded and got a medal and also another one, before this war ended in the next year. He didn't want to stay in Finland, which had now become an autonomic poart of Russia, but he moved to Sweden, Lycksele and died there nearly 40 years later. The grandson of Sandels, who won at Koljonvirta, rose a monument on the grave of Bång 100 years after this battle.
Before, the Rus was terryfied of the Swedes, with their cannons and their muskets, and swords. The Rus we created in Kiev-Rus, by Viking people from Roslagen in Sweden.
Hard to believe it considering it's ultra pacifist behavior during the 20th century, that Sweden was a formidable military power and often waged war against Russia and Prussia. On the other hand, Swedish armaments companies did business with the Third Reich, producing anti-aircraft guns.
Swedes and Finns ought to be the most friendly people, given their extremely apart languages, for few words are the like. In Comparision, Norwegian and Danish is way closer, espessialy in the written language, allmost the same as Swedish. However, Icelandic and Farose is extremely different, way so than German, Dutch or Nieder-Duech. I would say Low-German or Dutch is closer to Swedish than High-German. Norwegans are our best people, like sweet brothers though, bare för att ni taler så konstigt = )
I don't know about that, during my lifetime I've met many drunk finns who swore and cursed at me for being swedish and at Sweden in general. If they drank a bit more they sometimes had some good things to say too, haha. Hiding behind that was most of the times a warm person, I love Finland and the finns 😁
@lanner95 Well actually Fänrik Ståls sägner would be "Tales of ensign Stål" as Stål refers to the surname if the particular ensign (fänrik) whose tales are told in this epic poam by J. L. Runeberg... But yeah, otherwise everything was correct in what you said, just wanted to point out the translation issue. :)
I was sometimes taught to attack with the bayonette, but I was better in the shooting, gathering marks. The best shooting was with 155 mm Haubits-77 With loading-6. A knall, haha. A Muzzle-Flash beyond your Imagination.
Who might the people to the right be ? I can not think they are Finnish, Estonian, Esti or Lithuanian, for they never were a proplem... Other way round in fact. We old Swedes in Roslagen founded a country Named Rus that became our Enemy, namely Kiev-Rus. Vladimir = Valdemar, haha.
That awkward moment when you are pro-russian but you listen to that and think that Russians should import it. Now curious, why the song talks so much about Finland if its Swedish? Also did the army of the Grand Duchy of Finland under Russia used it?
Most likely, it's engrained in the heart of our two nations. The song talks about finland because it's about a finnish regiment from the town of Björneborg/Pori
@@ghostie7028 The wikipedia page literally says it's from the 1700s and that it is a swedish military march. Finland was part of Sweden up until 1809/1810
Not really. Estonia joined Sweden voluntarily. Sweden was also the country which made sure that religious freedom and liberties in Germany was protected with the Westphalian peace. And much of the wars Sweden fought were defensive in nature. The only country which I would think of suffering from harsh treatment from Sweden was Poland. But that was on the other hand a defensive war which Sweden had to fought because the Polish King refused to give up his claims on the Swedish throne, and he allied himself with Sweden's enemies like Denmark, and tried to gather the Spanish navy and the land forces from Catholic Poland and Austria to conquer Sweden. So Sweden had to attack before this overwhelmingly strong alliance could be ready to attack the homeland. Otherwise would I say that countries were treated well. The German provinces could keep their own laws and official language and govern themselves to a large extent. And same goes for most of the Baltic provinces. Finland was treated as an equal to the Swedish homeland. And Sweden's "occupation" of Norway could probably be considered the kindest occupation any country in history have suffered from. Norway got better treatment than the Swedish homeland, because the Swedish rulers wanted to win the hearts and minds of the Norwegian people so they would stop dreaming about independence. Norwegian ships got rich off trading Swedish goods and trade deals were being worked out to benefit Norway at Sweden's expense. Norway became rich. And the more rich they became, the more they started to think it was only because of their own greatness. So they started to despise people from the rest of the country and wanting independence because Norway was richer than Sweden so they thought that they therefore would become better off without any partnership. Ironically would Norway however start to decline by the late 1800's. While Sweden's industrial revolution started to take off by the 1870's. And Sweden started to instead become the richest country in Scandinavia. And if Norway had not found any oil, then it would probably have been a much poorer country than Sweden today. Sweden was a country with some of the freest farmers and ordinary people in the world. While serfdom was harsh in the neighboring countries Denmark and Poland. And I would not use the term serfdom about Russia because that would be an understatement how harsh it was - slavery would be a better word. The Russians kidnapped, murdered, plundered, raped and burned the Swedish coast - and deported entire villages of Baltic and Finnish civilians to Siberia for forced labor. Denmark did the most bloody historical peace time massacre in Scandinavian history when it committed Stockholm Bloodbath. And the forces of the German emperor did make a genocide on Magdeburg - which back then was a city as large as Berlin and Vienna. So had murdered all the population of a city of that size today, then we talk about 2 to 4 million people killed. So whatever Sweden did with the inhabitants in Scania and Poland does not seem any particularly brutal by comparison. I would rather argue that Swedish troops usually behaved better than most other armies. Swedish Caroleans was not even allowed to plunder the apple trees of aristocrats in Saxony during its occupation in 1706. And it was preferred to pay for food for the troops instead of looting whenever it was possible. And killing fellow Christians were not popular among Swedish or Finnish troops serving in Germany during the 30 years war. So unlike German soldiers did they not rape, murder and plunder. The German Catholics did however do many massacres on civilians - as Magdeburg which I mentioned earlier. Their army had a large number of mercenary troops which did not fight for any King, religion or just cause.... but instead were they only interested in plundering and getting paid by their master to fight on the battlefield. And when a German army lost, then did those German soldiers choose to fight on the Swedish side instead if they could get paid. And if they did not get paid, then they started to plunder and murder. So those German mercenaries did cause most of the harm to the German civilian population. It was also they who demanded that Catholic and Protestant cities should be plundered so the troops can steal stuff and put more riches into their own pockets. And if the King they were serving did not approve their wishes to plunder a city, then they could become violent or refusing to following orders and start plundering civilians anyways. So do Sweden carry responsibility for the horrors of the thirty years war? Not really. The largest majority of the blame should be laid on the Catholic armies, and on the German protestant states which were allied with Sweden. And it was German mercenary troops and not Finnish or Swedish soldiers which did make the war crimes.
Björneborgarnas Marsch is a Swedish military march from the 18th century by an unknown composer. Today, the march is used mainly in Finland and has been the parade march of the Finnish defense since 1918. The poem however is another question as it is a fiction written in the 19th century long after the origins of the march . The march have been in the Swedish military for much longer. If this is a Finnish march, do you also consider Mozart's Turkish March not to be Austrian?
@@faderneslandet3489 But isn't this march made in honor of Björneborgs brigade/Porin brigade?????? You know that Björneborg is city in Finland right. Swedish military was quite heavily manned by Finns back in the day, so saying that this is only Finnish or Swedish march is retarded.
Now, one CAN suddenly take part in a conflict, without being banned :) However, Slava Ukraini. This Song or March was regarded as extreme-right and not politically correct before. Now it is accepted suddenly...
The March is Finnish + Swedish Now shut your mouth. Against the Rus. They were originally from Roslagen in Sweden, haha. Vladimir = Valdemar... We were the first in Rusland, the Swedes. Hence our name, the Rus people from Roslagen in Sweden. The other people were just fighting eachother. Now we came to rule over them. Later they become our enemies.
Same heart, two (totally) different languages ... Oh, but you forgot the sauna. Swedes know nothing of sauna. Finland has 5,5 million people and 3 million saunas. How many saunas in Sweden?
I don't know as it seems a pretty silly thing to keep count on. What I do know is most households have saunas. I have a sauna in my apartment and so does most of my relatives and friends. Our vacation house in the archipelago have two saunas. Saunas in Sweden is just as common as fika.
Sweden and Finland should join together, along with Norway and Denmark and maybe some minor Baltic nations in their own EU/NATO. The EU is the death of Europe as we knew it.
Nah would never work maybe finland and sweden because in finland we already are forced to learn swedish and linked cultures and history but theres no way finnish people would accept a total nordic union the only one I see as remotely possible is sweden and perhaps estonia
@@otsogronberg6193 I meant it as more of a EU equivalent, not them all becoming one country. Just all providing military support for each other, and special trade deals and such.
@@SgfGustafsson This literally already exists. Sweden and finland already have a defensive agreement and the nordic union is a special trade and free travel agreement between all nordic nations.
I personally belive estonia should be able to join the nordic union to help them break out of the relative more poor status and to distance it from post communist depression. As a swede I don't know much about the relationship between finland and estonia but i belive it is close enough to justify letting them join.
You Americans can NEVER produce such great marches or military music, never. You can never compete with Swedes in writing military music. Only Ze Germans can compete in writing marches.
@@faderneslandet3489 Björneborgarnas marsch, altough originally written in swedish, is a Finnish march. It was originally a Poem by Johan Ludvig Runeberg, the most important poet in Finnish history. He also wrote "Our Land", the Finnish national anthem.
@@faderneslandet3489 if thats the argument you are going to make, then explain why the periodic table has the finnish flag by the element yttrium, rather than the swedish flag, and it is considered a finnish discovery and not swedish
@@jonasvaananen Changing the subject is not going to change fact. The fact is Finland was Swedish for 700 years and during that time Björneborgarnas Marsch was used by the Swedish military which also included Finnish soldiers. You can dig how much you want to try and make up your own facts but you can't change your Swedish heritage. It was not until Finland was taken by Russia they suddenly wanted to pursue indpendence. Songs and marches written after 1809 when Finland became a Grand Duchy in the Russian Empire I consider Finnish as they received some autonomy and Finnish nationalism began to flourish. When Finland was part of Sweden it was an integrated province in the kingdom, unlike Estonia, Ingria, and Livonia which was dominions. and The history of Björneborgarnas Marsch says, "Björneborgarnas Marsch is a Swedish military march from the 18th century by an unknown composer. Today, the march is used mainly in Finland and has been the parade march of the Finnish defense since 1918. In Finland, it may only be performed in military and other solemn contexts. The march is also played to honor the Finnish gold medal in the Olympic Games." The poem however is another question as it is a fiction written long after the origins of the march the mid 1800s. Again the march itself have been in the Swedish military for much longer. So you can go ahead and claim the text in Fänrik Ståls Sägner as much as you want, but the military march is Swedish and that is an established fact.
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One of the cheeriest military marches. Doesn't sound as tough as Kognigratzker Marsch or Hohenfriedberger, but it sounds like a march from a victorious army coming home after a battle.
I will use this for a roblox game I will make called "the battle of narva"
@@2.5productions cool. What will the game be called?
I think the melody comes from the Napoleonic wars. The lyrics are more on the lines of "we're not dead yet, our flag is still flying, come have some"
WE ESCAPING LEIPZIG WITH THIS ONE BOYS
WE SACRIFICING JACOB WITH THIS ONE BOYS!
WE TURNING ON THE LIGHTHOUSE PREMATURELY WITH THIS ONE
WE RINGING THE BELL EARLY WITH THIS ONE BOYS
WE FIGHTING IN NARVA WITH THIS ONE!
Real men cry in LEIPZIG
Gud med oss🇸🇪
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@@leoastner888 varför det? vafan säg inte att självaste kalle dussin har tappat kuken nu också..
@@user-te9vx8bx8y vafan babblar du om?
@@mrman9977 huh, det undrar jag också
@@user-te9vx8bx8y hahaha sådär är det ibland
Gud med oss!
Everybody gangsta till the other side of the bridge starts speaking Swedish.
That individual soldier in question - if he ever actually existed - spoke Finnish.
@@timoterava7108 i doubt since hes name was sven duvfa a swedish name
@@svenskathule8434 Which proves absolutely nothing.
Many Finnish first names are imported - like in so many other countries. Many names have e.g. biblical origins - like mine - despite of the Finnish form.
During the Swedish time - and probably even before it - many names of especially Scandinavian origin were used, Sven included. And even if the name was originally Finnish/in Finnish form, many Swedish-speaking priests wrote it down into the church register in Swedish form - e.g. Matti>Mats, Antti>Anders, Jussi>Johan etc.
Ordinary people, like Sven, didn't have/need/use any proper surnames. They either used the name of the house (mostly in Western Finland) as an additional name and/or patronyms (especially in Eastern Finland).
However only when/if they went into the military, they needed an official surname. Often the officer/NCO registering the recruit's name just looked at the guy and gave him a suitable Swedish-language surname just there. Often - but not always - the name given was either militaristic (Skjöld/Shield, Svärd/Sword, Ståhl/Steel) or descriptive (Lång/Long, Stark/Strong, Tapper/Brave).
Dufva however means dove, so not really militaristic at all. Perhaps it is supposed to give some hint of his personality.
Anyway we must remember, that in reality Sven Dufva might not have existed - at least not by that name. The author of "The Tales of Ensign Stål" was a Swedish-speaker and he wrote in Swedish. It is totally possible, that he might have given a real Finnish soldier a Swedish name just for (his) convenience.
And finally: after centuries of changing names and languages back and forth, it is now quite common to have Finnish-speaking Finns with Swedish first and/or surnames. And sometimes the Swedish-speaking Finns can have Finnish names too.
Based on the name only, you can't be sure, what is the native language of an individual in Finland.
@@timoterava7108 you do know that sven dufva is based on the real soldier Johan Zacharias Bång who was born in Umeå, Sweden
@@wt380 No, I don't know, because
- Bång was born on 19.4.1782 in Lohja, Finland
- after the war he moved to Sweden (proper)
- obviously he didn't die in the war, but he was wounded
- he was not in close combat with the Russians on the bridge as "Sven Dufva"
- some(!) people consider Bång as the model for Dufva
- today the consensus is, that Runeberg didn't use anybody as a model, and the character of Sven Dufva is fictional
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Länge leva Sverige🇸🇪😊🇫🇮Eläköön Suomi/Länge leva Finland
VIVA SUECIA ! VIVA FINLANDIA !!! 💞😎
Spasiba toveristhi.:) Sorry for my bad Russia! Google will not help me!
"Kungen samlar manskapet och håller ett obegripligt tal på dålig finska. Han frågar med hjälp av en finsk tolk om soldaterna är beredda att följa honom i liv och död. "Vi följer i liv och död", svarar fotfolket och kungen svarar "Suuri kiitos, pojat" på begriplig finska."
Brödrafolkens väl!
@@finnicpatriot6399 Det var som fan. kungen fick mål i munnen till sist !
A very fine march! :) Thank you for sharing!
I told you, two meters, nothing less!
This sound like the opening theme of a Disney movie form the 1900’s
Sverige
Suomi! Rootsie!
Hyvää perkele!
Hakkaa päälle!
Finlands sak är vår 💪🏻
Suomi
Länge leve Finland och länge leve Björneborgarna!!
The picture is perfect!
Aidan Cox man kan ju bara önska att svenska folket skulle behöva stå upp för sig själva på det sättet igen. Det skulle rensa bade gener & sinnen till det normalaw.
Inget i det du läser eller ser ovan refererar till "svenska folket" i etnisk eller kulturell bemärkelse.
Sven Dufva
🇸🇪 Tillsammans 🇫🇮
respect from Denmark 🇩🇰
Länge leve Finland och Sverige.
Länge leve Finland och Sverige.
Sverige + Danmark + Norge + Island +Färöarna + Finland = Love :) Estland can come along with us. Well, the lower baltic states and Poland also.
" - Släpp ingen djävul över bron ! "
Klasse!! Greetings from Germany
DEUTSCHLAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No, Schweden.
Vardohus Fortress...
Leipzig...
Kaub...
San sabestian....
Bravo!👏👏👏
Sverige, Eesti and Suomi!💙
Estland 💙
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🇸🇪 *För Kung och Fosterland!* 🇸🇪
Sven Dufva is said to have died alone on a battle on a bridge, against the Rus. He was very VikingR, extremely brave, but daft if exsisted.
@user3141592635, You are right. This picture is clearly describing the battle at the Koljonvirta bridge in 27th of October in 1808. There was a ceasefire, which the Russians ended one hour earlier than the Finns were expecting, because the Russian clocks were using a different time-zone than the Finnish clocks. The ending time had been agreeded earlier, but not the time-zone by which this endig time would follow. So the Russians started to attack so early, that the Finns had had not enough time to destroy the bridge. The first group of the Russians almost crossed the bridge, but Johan Zacharias Bång managed alone to stop them. The bridge was very narrow, and that explaines, why one man could be an obstacle. Bång stopped also the next two Russian attacks, but then he got wounded and fell. The Russians run over him, but this short time period had been enough long so, that the Finnish reserves were there to push the Russians back. The Swedish Sandels was the winner of this small but famous battle. The Finnish sentence "äl' yli päästä perhanaa" (don't let blasted Russia to cross the bridge") is from this battle and might it have been said by Sandels. On thre other hand this might also have been just an invention of Runeberg, the poet. The leader of the Russians was count Dologorukov, a very talented young man, whose family was expecting him to make a briliant military career. He was killed here and his family rose a beautiful monument to the place, where he died.
In the poem of Runeberg the hero at Koljonvirta is Sven Dufva and he dies at that bridge. But Bång only wounded and got a medal and also another one, before this war ended in the next year. He didn't want to stay in Finland, which had now become an autonomic poart of Russia, but he moved to Sweden, Lycksele and died there nearly 40 years later. The grandson of Sandels, who won at Koljonvirta, rose a monument on the grave of Bång 100 years after this battle.
Some people do not understand the Hymn, Björneborgarnas Marsch, for it is The Swedes and The Finns March together.
i love swedish people
WE MAKING IT OUT OF VARDOHUS WITH THIS ONE 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯💯💯🥶🥶🥶🥶😤😤😤😤✔️✔️✔️
Schöne Grüße aus Deutschland und vielen Dank für den schönen Marsch der auch bei der Bundeswehr sehr beliebt ist!
Ty for helping us in ww2 ❤️
Preußens Gloria~
Danke Schön.
I didnt know it was popular in the Bundeswegr
En av de bästa Marscher jag hört!
Södermanlands Regementes Marsch är bra den också.
@@user3141592635 Ska lyssna!
March of Honour to the Commander-in-Chief of the Finnish defence force, usually the President.
Wow! Än bättre än dragonerna komma och livreg. Grenadjärers marsch!
Before, the Rus was terryfied of the Swedes, with their cannons and their muskets, and swords. The Rus we created in Kiev-Rus, by Viking people from Roslagen in Sweden.
у тебя большой ресентимент к другим народам, сходи к психотерапевту
I need something while using the grau in modern warfare...
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stand to bloody attention and present arms! for the finnish presention/inspection march.
Hard to believe it considering it's ultra pacifist behavior during the 20th century, that Sweden was a formidable military power and often waged war against Russia and Prussia. On the other hand, Swedish armaments companies did business with the Third Reich, producing anti-aircraft guns.
With all sides. The british army used bofors guns even to larger extent.
För kung och fosterland 🇸🇪
Excuse me, where can I find this painting?
Länge leve sverige
Finska är så extremt annorlunda, men jag älskar Finnar likaväl. Dock är Marchen synnerligen Extremt Svensk på alla sätt och vis.
800år kan lägga vissa spår 😅
I am a good Swede-Finn, or Finn-Swede. Choose the rifled howitzser grenadedes, 155, 122 mm or 105 mm :)
A spirited German-style song Sweden, Finland and Estonia
haha I knew I´d find a lot of Finnish revisionists here. Sorry I meant ppl from the eastern half of the kingdom...
Sigurd Ring hade problem med de andra vid i slaget i Bråvalla eller BråvelliR , det stora slaget mellan Svear och Götar :)
Music: Sweden
Lyrics: Finland
March: BJÖRNEBORGARNAS!!!
The music wasn't written by a Swede, it was written somewhere in continental Europe during the 1700s
"När du hör våran musik så snackar du!"
"Det är såna som vi bär upp det här samhället, som håller skiten under axlarna"
"Jag tycker ni ska sticka hem och sova nu så ni orkar bära"
Swedes and Finns ought to be the most friendly people, given their extremely apart languages, for few words are the like. In Comparision, Norwegian and Danish is way closer, espessialy in the written language, allmost the same as Swedish.
However, Icelandic and Farose is extremely different, way so than German, Dutch or Nieder-Duech.
I would say Low-German or Dutch is closer to Swedish than High-German.
Norwegans are our best people, like sweet brothers though, bare för att ni taler så konstigt = )
I don't know about that, during my lifetime I've met many drunk finns who swore and cursed at me for being swedish and at Sweden in general. If they drank a bit more they sometimes had some good things to say too, haha.
Hiding behind that was most of the times a warm person, I love Finland and the finns 😁
Fornstora dagar💪⚔️
Jag är alltid vän med Finlandl, men jag kan icke tala Finska.
very nice estonian song
Swedish* :D
@@deadcrow9046 it is finnish
@@alexanderthegreat3591 Ah my bad, sorry!
@@deadcrow9046 Don't apologize, you're were right
@@alexanderthegreat3591 definitely cant be Finnish as Finland wasn't a thing until the 1900s and the song was composed in the 1800's
Which battle is this picture?
@lanner95 Well actually Fänrik Ståls sägner would be "Tales of ensign Stål" as Stål refers to the surname if the particular ensign (fänrik) whose tales are told in this epic poam by J. L. Runeberg... But yeah, otherwise everything was correct in what you said, just wanted to point out the translation issue. :)
@lanner95 Could not agree more :)
Battle of Virta bridge 1808 were one private Swedish soldier Sven Duva made the day, he singel handed hold the russian army bay and gave his life
@@magnuslagergren5955 Thanks!
@@magnuslagergren5955 It's just a tale tough. It didn't actually happen. But still it's pretty cool.
I was sometimes taught to attack with the bayonette, but I was better in the shooting, gathering marks. The best shooting was with 155 mm Haubits-77 With loading-6. A knall, haha. A Muzzle-Flash beyond your Imagination.
Pojat, kansan Urhokkaan ---
Oh wait this the Swedish version
Why would you expect it to not be the original lol
The Finnish Soldier agin towards the Rus. No, I do not want a conflict again.
Jag är född Svensk, men jag är också Finländare.
Hallo vun der Schtaat vun Pennsylfaani!
I think , in the battle of the Ukranini and the Rus, the former will have the batttle. The Ukrainini have the will and they remember Holodomor.
Who might the people to the right be ? I can not think they are Finnish, Estonian, Esti or Lithuanian, for they never were a proplem... Other way round in fact. We old Swedes in Roslagen founded a country Named Rus that became our Enemy, namely Kiev-Rus.
Vladimir = Valdemar, haha.
Porilaisten marssi!
Eläköön Suomi
Eläköön Ruotsi
The Sound be Use of Finland
I have never peed so epically in my life!✨
Porilaisten marssi! Btw
Porilaisten is björneborg in swedish
@@leopoldstotch7076 Pori is such a boring name
nördik
Vi Svenskar (Lutheran) loaded the cannon. I am Not Overly Christian though.
To stop the Moskoivtes, hello Ukraini :)
That awkward moment when you are pro-russian but you listen to that and think that Russians should import it.
Now curious, why the song talks so much about Finland if its Swedish?
Also did the army of the Grand Duchy of Finland under Russia used it?
Most likely, it's engrained in the heart of our two nations.
The song talks about finland because it's about a finnish regiment from the town of Björneborg/Pori
@@joelthorstensson2772 The song is written by a Finnish person, the lyrics are in swedish but the song is from Finland
@@ghostie7028 At the time of the songs creation, Finland was as Swedish as Stockholm. It's a Swedish-Finnish song.
@@joelthorstensson2772 Finland was not a part of Sweden when it was written
@@ghostie7028 The wikipedia page literally says it's from the 1700s and that it is a swedish military march. Finland was part of Sweden up until 1809/1810
When sweden actually rain terror over all of europe
Not really. Estonia joined Sweden voluntarily. Sweden was also the country which made sure that religious freedom and liberties in Germany was protected with the Westphalian peace. And much of the wars Sweden fought were defensive in nature.
The only country which I would think of suffering from harsh treatment from Sweden was Poland. But that was on the other hand a defensive war which Sweden had to fought because the Polish King refused to give up his claims on the Swedish throne, and he allied himself with Sweden's enemies like Denmark, and tried to gather the Spanish navy and the land forces from Catholic Poland and Austria to conquer Sweden.
So Sweden had to attack before this overwhelmingly strong alliance could be ready to attack the homeland.
Otherwise would I say that countries were treated well. The German provinces could keep their own laws and official language and govern themselves to a large extent. And same goes for most of the Baltic provinces.
Finland was treated as an equal to the Swedish homeland.
And Sweden's "occupation" of Norway could probably be considered the kindest occupation any country in history have suffered from. Norway got better treatment than the Swedish homeland, because the Swedish rulers wanted to win the hearts and minds of the Norwegian people so they would stop dreaming about independence.
Norwegian ships got rich off trading Swedish goods and trade deals were being worked out to benefit Norway at Sweden's expense.
Norway became rich. And the more rich they became, the more they started to think it was only because of their own greatness. So they started to despise people from the rest of the country and wanting independence because Norway was richer than Sweden so they thought that they therefore would become better off without any partnership.
Ironically would Norway however start to decline by the late 1800's. While Sweden's industrial revolution started to take off by the 1870's. And Sweden started to instead become the richest country in Scandinavia. And if Norway had not found any oil, then it would probably have been a much poorer country than Sweden today.
Sweden was a country with some of the freest farmers and ordinary people in the world. While serfdom was harsh in the neighboring countries Denmark and Poland. And I would not use the term serfdom about Russia because that would be an understatement how harsh it was - slavery would be a better word.
The Russians kidnapped, murdered, plundered, raped and burned the Swedish coast - and deported entire villages of Baltic and Finnish civilians to Siberia for forced labor. Denmark did the most bloody historical peace time massacre in Scandinavian history when it committed Stockholm Bloodbath. And the forces of the German emperor did make a genocide on Magdeburg - which back then was a city as large as Berlin and Vienna. So had murdered all the population of a city of that size today, then we talk about 2 to 4 million people killed.
So whatever Sweden did with the inhabitants in Scania and Poland does not seem any particularly brutal by comparison.
I would rather argue that Swedish troops usually behaved better than most other armies.
Swedish Caroleans was not even allowed to plunder the apple trees of aristocrats in Saxony during its occupation in 1706. And it was preferred to pay for food for the troops instead of looting whenever it was possible.
And killing fellow Christians were not popular among Swedish or Finnish troops serving in Germany during the 30 years war. So unlike German soldiers did they not rape, murder and plunder.
The German Catholics did however do many massacres on civilians - as Magdeburg which I mentioned earlier.
Their army had a large number of mercenary troops which did not fight for any King, religion or just cause....
but instead were they only interested in plundering and getting paid by their master to fight on the battlefield.
And when a German army lost, then did those German soldiers choose to fight on the Swedish side instead if they could get paid.
And if they did not get paid, then they started to plunder and murder. So those German mercenaries did cause most of the harm to the German civilian population. It was also they who demanded that Catholic and Protestant cities should be plundered so the troops can steal stuff and put more riches into their own pockets.
And if the King they were serving did not approve their wishes to plunder a city, then they could become violent or refusing to following orders and start plundering civilians anyways.
So do Sweden carry responsibility for the horrors of the thirty years war?
Not really. The largest majority of the blame should be laid on the Catholic armies, and on the German protestant states which were allied with Sweden. And it was German mercenary troops and not Finnish or Swedish soldiers which did make the war crimes.
@@nattygsbord was this after Karl X?
@@MrTimodon Before. Under the reign of Gustav II Adolf (Gustavus Adolfs).
Seems you are a bit Russophobe. Frankly altough if what you tell is true it was really awful everybody did that back then in war.
We Swedes , we founded Kiev-Rus
This march is actually Finnish march, not swedish
Björneborgarnas Marsch is a Swedish military march from the 18th century by an unknown composer. Today, the march is used mainly in Finland and has been the parade march of the Finnish defense since 1918. The poem however is another question as it is a fiction written in the 19th century long after the origins of the march . The march have been in the Swedish military for much longer. If this is a Finnish march, do you also consider Mozart's Turkish March not to be Austrian?
Do not take up this shit.
We are Swedes and Finns.
@@user3141592635 älä puhu paskaa
@@faderneslandet3489 But isn't this march made in honor of Björneborgs brigade/Porin brigade?????? You know that Björneborg is city in Finland right. Swedish military was quite heavily manned by Finns back in the day, so saying that this is only Finnish or Swedish march is retarded.
Now, one CAN suddenly take part in a conflict, without being banned :) However, Slava Ukraini. This Song or March was regarded as extreme-right and not politically correct before. Now it is accepted suddenly...
That is a Finnish marsh
Under Svenskt styre.
@@swevixeh Nej, låten skrevs av en finländare när Ryssland hade Finland.
The March is Finnish + Swedish Now shut your mouth. Against the Rus. They were originally from Roslagen in Sweden, haha. Vladimir = Valdemar...
We were the first in Rusland, the Swedes. Hence our name, the Rus people from Roslagen in Sweden. The other people were just fighting eachother.
Now we came to rule over them. Later they become our enemies.
The finnish culture didn't exist around the napoleonic wars cope about it
@@Bro12354 The Finns existed along the Rus and Swedes in the oldest times.
@@user3141592635 idk how but i somehow accidently commented here
Same heart, two (totally) different languages ... Oh, but you forgot the sauna. Swedes know nothing of sauna. Finland has 5,5 million people and 3 million saunas. How many saunas in Sweden?
I don't know as it seems a pretty silly thing to keep count on. What I do know is most households have saunas. I have a sauna in my apartment and so does most of my relatives and friends. Our vacation house in the archipelago have two saunas. Saunas in Sweden is just as common as fika.
Det bara nämns annorlunda.
Sweden and Finland should join together, along with Norway and Denmark and maybe some minor Baltic nations in their own EU/NATO. The EU is the death of Europe as we knew it.
Nah would never work maybe finland and sweden because in finland we already are forced to learn swedish and linked cultures and history but theres no way finnish people would accept a total nordic union the only one I see as remotely possible is sweden and perhaps estonia
@@otsogronberg6193 I meant it as more of a EU equivalent, not them all becoming one country. Just all providing military support for each other, and special trade deals and such.
It is possible.
@@SgfGustafsson This literally already exists. Sweden and finland already have a defensive agreement and the nordic union is a special trade and free travel agreement between all nordic nations.
I personally belive estonia should be able to join the nordic union to help them break out of the relative more poor status and to distance it from post communist depression. As a swede I don't know much about the relationship between finland and estonia but i belive it is close enough to justify letting them join.
You Americans can NEVER produce such great marches or military music, never. You can never compete with Swedes in writing military music. Only Ze Germans can compete in writing marches.
Battle Hymn of the Republic sounds very good though. And no, I'm not American.
@@fluttzkrieg4392 it is cool. But is not a march. It is an anthem-styled piece.
This is NOT a swedish march, it is Finnish
No, it is a Swedish military march from the 1700s by unknown composer. The march is however since 1918 used mainly in Finland.
@@faderneslandet3489 Björneborgarnas marsch, altough originally written in swedish, is a Finnish march. It was originally a Poem by Johan Ludvig Runeberg, the most important poet in Finnish history. He also wrote "Our Land", the Finnish national anthem.
@@jonasvaananen And when was Finland founded?
@@faderneslandet3489 if thats the argument you are going to make, then explain why the periodic table has the finnish flag by the element yttrium, rather than the swedish flag, and it is considered a finnish discovery and not swedish
@@jonasvaananen Changing the subject is not going to change fact. The fact is Finland was Swedish for 700 years and during that time Björneborgarnas Marsch was used by the Swedish military which also included Finnish soldiers. You can dig how much you want to try and make up your own facts but you can't change your Swedish heritage. It was not until Finland was taken by Russia they suddenly wanted to pursue indpendence. Songs and marches written after 1809 when Finland became a Grand Duchy in the Russian Empire I consider Finnish as they received some autonomy and Finnish nationalism began to flourish. When Finland was part of Sweden it was an integrated province in the kingdom, unlike Estonia, Ingria, and Livonia which was dominions. and The history of Björneborgarnas Marsch says, "Björneborgarnas Marsch is a Swedish military march from the 18th century by an unknown composer. Today, the march is used mainly in Finland and has been the parade march of the Finnish defense since 1918. In Finland, it may only be performed in military and other solemn contexts. The march is also played to honor the Finnish gold medal in the Olympic Games." The poem however is another question as it is a fiction written long after the origins of the march the mid 1800s. Again the march itself have been in the Swedish military for much longer. So you can go ahead and claim the text in Fänrik Ståls Sägner as much as you want, but the military march is Swedish and that is an established fact.
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