@@_MurphyAlexander_ No, there are two new Ninja models that have AtomOS11 built-in, the Ninja and the Ninja Ultra. The Ninja V and V+ are legacy products that recently received the free base AtomOS11 upgrade, but require the purchase of the "OS11 Feature Pack" in order to receive the same features as the newer Ninja/Ninja Ultra respectively. The V+ or Ultra is necessary if you wish 6KP60 RAW or 8K/30P.
Actually LUTs does not impact the EL-Zone output ... it's the same with and without LUT. The most important thing is to set proper color profile and gammut (as you showed up in this video).
EL Zone works in Stops so it is much more intuitive. Other false color systems use the IRE scale, not Stops. To learn more, you should check out Ed Lachman's website: www.elzonesystem.com/ - I've also done other videos on how to use the EL Zone system and setting exposure using SmallHD Monitors. The concept is the same if you check those out.
@@Jae_MaV yep updated it works perfect in clog c100 mkii. Rec 709 lut also works perfect with el zone and does not skew the measurements from log. Good job atomos. Want to see it in video I just did? Click on my logo and see the birds at my door video to see exposure. This was filmed in clog with el zone.
Hi, I wonder if EL Zone works properly with your camera. If you close the aperture EL Zone would show you the crushed dark parts in black. If you feed the Ninja with Sony S-Log3 / S-Gammut Log EL Zone is displayed completely out of whack meaning it doesn’t display the crushed dark parts as black but only goes to dark purple. It’s a bug I’ve noticed only yesterday and have already opened a support ticket with Atomos. People on some Atomos forums have confirmed this bug. As far as the signal coming from the RED goes I wonder if the Ninja shows EL zone correctly or has the same fault
@bldgzr Not really, it’s an FX3 and connected to a SmallHD with EL zone it works flawlessly feeding the exact same signal. Other users noted this problem too. So I wonder if you feed S-Log3 / S-Gammut Cine or if you feed it a different Gamma
It's sad that it is a paid feature on the Ninja V. I had to pay for SDI RAW and plus the back unit, now they are charging for an update to use a monitoring tool. At this point, I should just sell it and get the new one, after all of these paid features, it's more expensive than the new one or the 7''.
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You can use it on Ninja V but you have to pay a $75 upgrade
Ah I see, somehow I missed it on their website.
You have to pay to use EL Zone if you buy the new Ninja V?
I was watching this on my TV and grabbed my laptop to point out it is on the Ninja V with the paid upgrade
@@_MurphyAlexander_ No, there are two new Ninja models that have AtomOS11 built-in, the Ninja and the Ninja Ultra. The Ninja V and V+ are legacy products that recently received the free base AtomOS11 upgrade, but require the purchase of the "OS11 Feature Pack" in order to receive the same features as the newer Ninja/Ninja Ultra respectively. The V+ or Ultra is necessary if you wish 6KP60 RAW or 8K/30P.
@@_MurphyAlexander_no, only if you own the old one. The new updated version come with it
I got original Ninja V and I got EL-Zone ... but had to pay $79 to get this option ... it's paid update for Atomos OS11.
Actually LUTs does not impact the EL-Zone output ... it's the same with and without LUT. The most important thing is to set proper color profile and gammut (as you showed up in this video).
For Ninja V+ it's $200 to update to get EL Zone along with other features.
Thank you for the video. Can you output the false color EL zone overlay to another monitor?
I dont think so, only the image as is.
Thank you for the informative insight. I wish the EL Zone System could be implemented on the Atomos SUMO19, even via a paid firmware update.
So false color and EL Zone both measure your expose with stops and use colors to show them on screen.
What make EL Zone more useful or is it?
EL Zone works in Stops so it is much more intuitive. Other false color systems use the IRE scale, not Stops. To learn more, you should check out Ed Lachman's website: www.elzonesystem.com/ - I've also done other videos on how to use the EL Zone system and setting exposure using SmallHD Monitors. The concept is the same if you check those out.
@@MarcosRochaTV appreciate that information.
I shoot in Sony S-cinetone picture profile not log. Do you have to shoot in log for EL Zones to work?
Yes, you have to output RAW or Flat profiles
can you do one on arri exposure
Does Shinobi ii have this feature at default?
It does now with the latest 11.2 update.
@@Jae_MaV yep updated it works perfect in clog c100 mkii. Rec 709 lut also works perfect with el zone and does not skew the measurements from log. Good job atomos. Want to see it in video I just did? Click on my logo and see the birds at my door video to see exposure. This was filmed in clog with el zone.
How does this work for other camera manufacturers as you mentioned, Marcos? - it really doesn’t. It’s purely for RED cameras 😢
Hi, I wonder if EL Zone works properly with your camera. If you close the aperture EL Zone would show you the crushed dark parts in black. If you feed the Ninja with Sony S-Log3 / S-Gammut Log EL Zone is displayed completely out of whack meaning it doesn’t display the crushed dark parts as black but only goes to dark purple. It’s a bug I’ve noticed only yesterday and have already opened a support ticket with Atomos. People on some Atomos forums have confirmed this bug. As far as the signal coming from the RED goes I wonder if the Ninja shows EL zone correctly or has the same fault
@schmollywood Has Atomos solved this bug yet? I'm thinking of buying the OS11 Feature Pack for my Ninja V+ ...
@@jxjm No it’s not yet fixed
@bldgzr The EL zone on the Ninja will never reach black when feeding it S-Log 3 since it’s implemented wrong
@bldgzr …even if you have absolutely no light hitting the sensor it will always only go to display purple due to wrong implementation by Atomos
@bldgzr Not really, it’s an FX3 and connected to a SmallHD with EL zone it works flawlessly feeding the exact same signal. Other users noted this problem too. So I wonder if you feed S-Log3 / S-Gammut Cine or if you feed it a different Gamma
It's sad that it is a paid feature on the Ninja V. I had to pay for SDI RAW and plus the back unit, now they are charging for an update to use a monitoring tool. At this point, I should just sell it and get the new one, after all of these paid features, it's more expensive than the new one or the 7''.