What your golf handicap actually says about you
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Many recreational golfers don't really understand what their golf handicap index means and what it says about their game, so I explain the concept of potential versus average scores. Also, I get into why the handicap system measures the same scores differently on different courses and different days.
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My handicap is that choice I made in a London bar 20 years ago.
My handicap is my swing
Hilarious! Good job
My handicap tells me I should take up another hobby.
😂😂😂 mine too.
No it means you need lessons!
Been there, done that. I just don’t have the aptitude.
😂
Lol
Great explanation of how the handicap works and what it really means. Let’s hope those who don’t know watch this video. Cheers
Thanks for watching! I'm trying to put together a list of things like this that I can help explain
The comment I have seen ref potential V what you score is you will play to handicap 20% of your rounds.
I look at the comp scores for my club, now we are seeing greens firm up. winter golf stableford scores winners low / mid 40 points 95% allowance.
Summer high 30’s points
Strokeplay only a few players sub par with their net scores then a good number 1-6 shots over par with a mix of handicaps.
I like the system and the taking of your index to other courses and it adjusts allowance.
The maths and using that days scores to adjust course difficulty I’ll leave to the computer
A handicap is so poor golfers can beat good golfers in club tournaments. You hardly ever see low handicap golfers win club events and then there are sandbaggers which is another story in itself
@@jimraiford7799 plenty of low handicappers win at my club, especially strokeplay events. Once start playing off the back tees the extra length starts to take effect
@@jimraiford7799 Why did you bother to use a period? You missed so many commas, that it was very difficult to read your drivvle.
It also might be good to elaborate on individual hole score limits. Like a low handicap can’t take more than a net double bogey toward their handicap. Thanks for the video.
After seeing some replies with questions and good suggestions like this, I think it's worth doing a deeper dive into the formula, etc
It’s called ESC - equitable score control . Most casuals have no idea about this.
@@eldiablony274 thanks, I didn’t know the name. I saw not a scratch golfer and I think golf sidekick mention it on their channels. Something along the line of “I gave up trying on the hole because it would only count as a 6 for my handicap”
It's worth another video to explain it to folks, especially since it changed some with the WHS
My handicap tells me I suck at golf!🤣🤣🤣
Do you always laugh at your own bad jokes?
@@matthewdubay1180 please tell me you aren’t really serious? You’ve never laughed at yourself?
Excellent explanation and like most of the rules of golf very few amateur golfers understand the handicap system.
Thanks for watching!
Because it is actually complicated. There are rules limiting the maximum Score per hole that is used for handicapping that depend on your handicap index. At 25 H’cap that is for me 4 over par on any hole. This is shown on the computer when I look at my round and see a score lower than what’s on my card.
@@xy-pk8gb well being honest I have not looked too closely at the index for the hole and how my score has been tweaked for handicap purposes.
At 25 index allowance is 29 shots then depending on index I’ll get 2 shots in some holes.
I’ve looked at a card on my England golf where I shot 111 but for handicap 3 shots taken off. I can see where the 3 shots have been taken off but there are other holes with low index that I possibly could have lost more shots on so no idea how it’s working.
I don’t worry about it too much as the aim is to try and get my index into the teens and be consistent at bogey golf or better. I can do it for a good portion in the round but too often 3-4 holes of double bogey or worse. Same as so many golfers really, crazy game can come off a green pleased with a bogey which is a good score because you have recovered well, or walk off annoyed with a bogey because you have hit a poor shot or 3 putted.
@@xy-pk8gb no problems would help if there was some simple explanations of how to view and work out your cards yourself.
Have seen several you tubers who have gone for official handicaps and received an index lower than any card they have submitted!
My handicap seems to indicate that I should play game improvement clubs. However, I strike the ball well enough to be able to hit a player’s club and so I shop them. I’m always asked “what’s your handicap?” when I want to try a set of less forgiving clubs.
My problem isn’t hitting the sweet spot. I hit fat, left, right…my handicap doesn’t represent my ball striking, it represents my ability to really blow up a few holes every round. I really loved the Ping Blueprint S and the PXG 317 CB models when I tried them.
Golf is a game of several skills that don't always correlate. So a person who drives the ball well, doesn't necessarily putt well. So there are plenty of golfers who look good off the tee who don't necessarily score well and visa versa. Hence the old saying, drive for show, putt for dough.
On good days I have the ball striking of a single digit player and can still struggle to break 100 after a few wild shots into hazards combined with poor chipping and putting. While a good score always makes me happy, good ball striking always makes me happier.
For a year in like 2012, I got a set of blades with the holes that it would force me to become a better ballstriker. And it did! I had to put in more work to hit the shots I wanted to hit, but it was worth it.
@@ryanballengeegolfi started golf in October with blades with the same attitude and I think I made the correct choice. I am forced to practice if I want to get better. I have no experience with any other clubs and I love it. I’m getting there. Broke 90 a few weeks ago and plan to break 80 in the next year (or two) 😆
Buy whatever makes you happy. Just make sure you're doing it because you know how to translate the "workability" of blades into more enjoyment and better scores and not just so you can say you play blades.
One of the issues is the difference between general play and competition. I play a lot of golf, high handicapper 26, but if I look at my eclectic scores for the two courses I play off the yellows I have the potential to shoot sub par or just over par rounds. I have yet to break 90 in a full round but have recorded low 40’s for 9 holes.
In competitions my scoring is worse a mix of the longer holes and technique crumbling due to tension. Stableford comps help me as a bad hole is just nil points, strokeplay a bad hole blows the card.
Just shot 44 for 9 holes which is 5 shots less than my handicap allowance, card is submitted I wait to see the impact on my WHI
In stroke play one bad hole shouldn't "blow the card". Are adjusting your scores for posting purposes. You can't post any score higher than net double bogey on any hole.
@@rickoliveira3807 I post the shots I take, sadly I can be bouncing along nicely bogey or better golf then have a 7,8,9 etc.
the maximum score is not a double bogey but actually 2 over a double bogey. I always thought for h cap purposes it was a double bogey, but using the HowDidiDo computer at the club if I have picked up on a hole in a stableford round the comp sets the score as an 8 on a par 4 with an asterix to denote the system is allocating that score.
For strokeplay it does the same so if I take a 9 or worse it amends the score for handicap
Purposes.
I believe depending on handicap this maximum score can be reduced eg single figure handicap a 7 on a par 4
I’m way too near the ball after I hit it⛳️
My handicap is the cart girl
The great ones play above their handicap with an audience
My handicap is ambition outweighs talent
15 is a very good handicap? You said that correct,? 15 is a very good handicap? Is a 10 handicap super good? A 6 handicap must be insanely, ridiculously good? 15 handicap very good! You made me laugh today, well done!
Statistically speaking, a 15 is better than 67-70% of golfers!
@@ryanballengeegolf Lol, exactly, 70th percentile is not very good. Thank you for proving my point.
I think the old system was more a measure of your ability - on a better than average day - (capability, if you like) whereas the new system is now more a measure of your average performance.
Across the v large number of club golfers that I play with their new WHS handicap (translated into course handicap) is higher than their old handicap and the winning scores in competitions have stepped up (e.g. from 39/40 as a winning score to 42/43 now being the winning score in a large field).
So we tend to say that the old system measured ability (on a good day) and the new system measures average performance.
Most people don't play the ball down. Handicaps are dumb unless you play in a league or tournaments that go by Handicap. My buddies turn in higher scores than they actually shoot so they have an advantage in tournaments.
I went threw this in my last time playing my mens club won my net championship and play agents all in match play champion, been playing this club for 15 years and had my best season but some said I was cheating
Timing is everything!
Great explanation, didn't know about course rating and slope applications. I'm wondering about one thing I've always believed about handicap: The number applies to how many strokes you get on a given hole from hard to easy. i.e., if my handicap is 10 (my guess at my current hc btw), then I would get a stroke on the 10 hardest holes. If it was 20, I would get a stroke on the 16 easiest holes and 2 each on the 2 hardest. Is this true?
That's right, you get a stroke on each hole before you get a second (or third now!) on another. So for the 19th stroke, it gets added to the No. 1 handicap hole, and then it goes from there
Oh yeah, wouldn't it be great if I could finish every round with (currently) 4 under par? But wouldn't it be kind of boring in the long run to always ‘know’ that you're playing 4 under?
Take our last holiday in Egypt (Soma Bay) for example: one day I played 3 under par (with only a light wind), the day before (with the usual really strong sea breeze) 5 over par, the day after 2 over, then exactly even par., after that 4 over. There are golf courses where I regularly play 6 or 7 under par, other courses where I'm always over par. That's what makes playing golf exciting and gives you fun. And to try to confirm good resuilts or to make it better next time.
Unfortunately, as a ‘family of golfers’ - my wife (HCP 5), I and 7 kids between 5 and 16 years of age -, we know too many people who have no sense what the HCP really means and what it says or even how it is calculated. These are the people you regularly see on the courses literally freaking out because they think they are ‘failing’.
Well, have a nice golf day...😃
And a nice golf day does not require low scores, good company and a few good shots / putts dropping, leaving the stress of life away from the golf course. It’s magic
Thanks great explaining
Thanks for watching!
Putt everything in the hole, no gimmes in match play. I see too many vanity handicaps because players don't play the hole out.
Whoa, whoa, I like those vanity handicap players. Easier to beat net!
@@ryanballengeegolf Usually guys under 30 until they realize it's costing them money on the weekends.
Their money spends just the same, haha
Former Golf Pro. Still a +3.5 index playing 3-4 times a month which includes tournament rounds.
As a former Teaching Pro I found that the VAST majority of golfers are vanity handicaps based on 3 footers alone.
Then there's also this other thing called tournament golf where those vanity handicaps really betray the golfer holding said handicap.
Couldn't agree more, Jaime. Tournament golf is a very different animal!
Your handicap is that round where you walk off think damn I killed it today.
That's the truth
The "potential" score is what's wrong with the handicap system. If I shoot outta my head ONE round the system sez "ya, that's you, most of the time" which is BS. I post my scores, but I understand why alot of folks won't post the low ones, cuz it's not representative of the their usual round. It closer to their best round. The computers are smart enough to average all your rounds. The good will balance the bad and your usual round will show
It can be a big weight on your handicap if you don't play often enough to play it out of your bank of 20 rounds, for sure
Handicaps doesn't create a fair game is actually the opposite. I'm personally see more in creating brackets where you compete in for example. Hcp 0-10, 10-20 etc and no strokes given.
I dont like the fact that if you train hard to become a better golfer you get punished in matches or competitions if you have to compete against a weekend warrior.
Facts. I play in league and that’s exactly the thought. % wise, it’s easier for the high handicap to pull points compared to the low ones.
@DaBluBarron1918 yes it sure is. At our club when we play matchplay competitions we use the difference in playing hcp × 0.7. With this format you have a slight advantage as a lower hcp. But still the hcp system feels a bit unfair.
Could also be just me because I used to play a other sport before I started with golf.
My handicap varies depending on whether we’re playing for money or not lol.
It's all won or lost in the negotiation
Actually you are expected to shoot your handicap or better in 20% of your rounds. Not 40% as stated in the video at one point.
Correct, because ones handicap index is the average of the best eight scores meaning that you play to your handicap 50% of the time or 4 out of 20 which is 20%.
If you only shoot your handicap 20% of the time, what good is it. Well officer , I only speed 20% of the time, I don’t deserve a ticket.
BUT 8 out of 20 equates to 16% - does it not ???
@@RM-rp6hx It does not.
@@r.s.5431 Sorry ! my mistake. You're right.
My handicap is lower in the summer than the wet,boggy winter
Same here.
For sure
Of course
An example might help. Let's say the course is hard. For the tees you are playing today the slope is 145 and most importantly the rating is 76. A scratch would only be expected to shoot 76, not 72.
An 18 or bogey golfer will shoot much higher than 90. The 76 is relative to 72 or even 70 on a US Open course. The 145 slope is relative to, if memory serves, 132, the slope of a course the USGA thinks is average. So again if memory serves, the bogey golfer who shoots 90 on a 132 slope course may very well be expected to shoot 13 strokes higher, or 103. And that seems about right.
When I first started playing in my 20's I played 5 days a week, 54 holes from Friday to Sunday and some 9 hole rounds after work during the week. My best round that year was a 75 on an easy course, probably a 120 slope. I had a 78 on a longer, harder course maybe mid 130's. I took a vacation week where I played 7 courses in 7 days. I shot no worse than 81 on any of them, except when I played a 145 slope course. My score was 95. I was devastated and very confused. I didn't understand slope then. Better now.
@@johnsouza4391and that is why the new system is in place, it allows for the different degrees of difficulty. Buried in the slope index is how tight the course is, hazards, greens etc. a course I play I get more shots of the yellow tees than the whites ( competition tees) course recently re rated and we questioned this, advised that off yellows more hazards in landing area than off whites so harder
Very good summary. That explains a lot. Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
It explains why the system is rigged.
As a junior in the 90s I was given a 45 handicap regardless of my my ability at 12. Won the first 36 hole comp by 26shots……. First time playing
Stopped at 18 and started again at 23. Was given a 7 handicap. Stopped at 26 and started again at 41. 9 handicap and I’d not hit a ball in 15years. Wish I have the funding as with this handicaps without playing …… jeez I’d be a pro 😂😂😂😂
Player in my club doesn’t post all his scores especially the good ones. He’s 3 handicap with a whole bunch of rounds in the low 70s not showing up on his GHIN rounds. So frustrating. I swear if I match up with him in the match play tournament, I’m calling him out. No shoot I’m giving him strokes when he’s been beating my scores literally every week for months. If it isn’t settled before the round, I’ll just go home and wait to match up with him until it’s fixed. I hate cheaters
How does he get away with it? If you're playing in a club comp, your score is posted. Does he just play socially and shoot the lights out and then just fudge it when he's in a competition??
@@alisonburgess345I would guess his general
Play is not entered, in comps his card goes in but is he shooting sub par nets then?
I see comp results where there is a NR against a name and looking at the card a good round has been in play then a hole where no score so card is void
This on our course recently is because the semi rough has grown so much easy to lose balls, and rather than go back to the tee if the rounds only average just NS that hole and move on to maintain pace of play.
Welcome to the handicap system and the single digits who run it.
Our club is fairly new and doesn’t have access to GHIN so players post themselves. I’ve actually suggested cards just go to the pro and he will post them. Now that we’re paying out in merch certificates twice a month, he’s very willing to participate. That dude got smoked by a high handicapper that played the round of his life. So satisfying. Don’t you just love it when people listen to your ideas and they make them happen?
@@guyr7351 when this happens, single digits post a double. That’s max per hole that GHIN allows in recorded rounds. This is in club rounds that only pay out CTP and eggs. Obviously a double isn’t taking an egg so no harm
That's why handicaps are WRONG. H-caps should be an avg of at least 20 scores, not the best 8 out of 20. If you're a 90's shooter, on average, you should carry an 18 h-cap. PERIOD. That's why golf sux and why ppl play 5 hour rounds and use the wrong tee locations!!!
Boy, have you hit the nail on the head.
What a handicap really says to me is one day your a little better than your handicap says and on the other days it may be worse than what it is. That’s called inconsistency and the reason your inconsistent is simple your instruction is inconsistent or in layman’s terms the instruction your getting wasn’t designed to make you a better player. That’s why very few improve and will never improve but will shoot that one exceptionally good round every once in a while but most times they are the product of their instructions or lack there of.
It also depends on how often one plays. If a person is only playing once a month, then they will be more inconsistent than a person who plays twice a week. It also comes down to how a person is feeling that day, might be a little tired, or not feeling 100%. It is not instruction based. Even Pros have bad days and shoot high scores. Every teaching pro is trying to make you a better player with good instructions, it is up to the person to remember those instructions and implement them.
@@BatMan-oe2gh I’ve never heard an instructor talk about the cross lateral brakes or sit at 45 on the lead side to for a buttress to actually hit against. The industry won’t teach that the club can orbit and goes one direction it just changes ends versus the instruction of the club changes direction from
Right to left if you’re a right hander and you have to muscle the tool back to the ball. That’s why they are I inconsistent because it demands hitting balls all the time as well as continuous instruction. Orbit the club and all that goes away. Not selling anything here just saying there is a better way to play golf in a consistent manner and improve at the same time. Thanks enjoyed the conversation! Have a safe weekend!!
@@Wooduck I was taught about cross lateral brakes. And sitting at 45 is just another term for stacking one side. The biggest issue of why Golfers don't get better is lack of practice. No good getting a lesson and then not practicing it to groove it into muscle memory. At my Club, only the best Golfers hit the range before playing, the rest don't and those are the people who do not improve. Cheers
@@BatMan-oe2gh and you supported my point exactly. Once ingrained no practice is necessary.
@@Wooduck So Pros don't practice, haven't changed their swings or changed their putting style. Practice is always needed, otherwise what's the point in training. The best Golfers are the ones who practice.
New to golf, where do people post their scores? Is there a website that everyone uses?
Welcome! The primary place people enter scores now is GHIN, which the USGA runs. Check out ghin.com and you can buy a handicap index (it's annual) and then start using the app to enter scores.
The system is flawed. Establishing a handicap from the "up" tees will naturally inflate a handicap. Then when playing a match, player will het inflated handicap (based on higher differential from the up tees) and also distance. Almost impossible to neat with a handicap established from other tees.
You didn’t even mention hard and soft caps, another method keeping a 15 from ever beating a single digit. I actually had a guy from Mass golf tell me that the single digit guys at my club would not take kindly to a golfer whose handicap went up over three strokes in a season. When I wrote him, my average scores had gone from 90 to 95. I was playing awful, but if my handicap was allowed to go up over 3 strokes, I would have been considered a sandbagged. We all know who makes the rules , club pros and single digit players. Tournament s are their domain.
So say 2guys play the same course 20 times together.And say the course rating is 72.The handicap system basically takes your best 10 and tosses the 10 worse scores.Jim shoots twenty 75s and Bill shoots 80 ten times and 70 ten times.They each won 10 times and both took the exact amount of strokes.Jim is a-3 handicap and Bill is a +2.
Very probably, and it uses 8 from the last 20, but their handicaps would probably come in even lower like -1, + 4 showing Scores they potentially could shoot
@@guyr7351 I guess the main thing is one guy shoots under par half the time and the other can’t break 75.
@@stevedunham3789 yep, and the system will still say they can play better than they are doing.
4.7
In my humble opinion, the handicap system is crap. I played an open competition last Sunday, only 7 players played to par or better (net) out of a field of 175 golfers, yet the CSS remained at 69. In my view there is not enough adjustment to reflect playing conditions on the day, and by that I mean easy scoring and difficult scoring days. The problem is, because of these casual round score entries it’s impossible to make the adjustment every time you play. Casual round scores should not count towards your handicap, full stop. Too much ability to put in false scores, I never post a score for handicap other than in medal play, and that’s how it should be.
Philosophically I agree that match play scores should not be posted because it is a very different game than medal play and I frankly don't care at all how many total strokes I take in match play. However, as someone recently pointed out to me... match play events utilize our overall handicap index which includes all scores so there's not really an alternative... except for manipulating the system by only posting selected scores as you do.
I’ll enter cards from both, with general
Play I need to decide prior to playing and then submit the card regardless of score. Failure to do so incurs a penalty ( cut in handicap).
I have good and bad rounds which the my England golf app shows and it highlights the 8 scores from my last 20 that are counting for my handicap.
I’m so erratic it drives me mad, a recent front 9 I was 12 over par 1st three holes, 4 over for the next 6😂
@@guyr7351you keep saying 8 scores from your rolling last twenty. This is no longer the case it is 10 best differentials
@@glenwood9190 what does ten best differentials mean? The ten best scores? I look at the my England golf app tracking scores for my handicap and highlighted in green are the qualifying scores. There are 8, out of 20 shown the other 12 classed as non counting. Not looking to be argumentative but this is what the app shows.
Against each card entered it shows my index, the gross score and a score differential.
Is the differential the difference between my index and the allowance on that day?
This is where we start getting complicated in the current system I think.
Most people don't play metal. They play casually. The handicap is not about playing with you little buddies
They know how you lie and cheat
Honesty is the system, so you can have a match with strangers
Personally, i think using the word "potential" is dangerous - does it mean the potential in a week, month, or year? "Current capability" is a much better description, imo.
Maybe meet you in the middle on "current potential," haha. You raise a good point that's not a golfer's permanent potential. However, depending on the timeframe the counting rounds cover, that potential could be measuring a very short window or years.
I hate the handicap system. If I played Michael Jordan 1v1 and I scored 3 points to his 10 I don’t want to be able to say I won because of a handicap.
My handicap tells me that I can’t beat a single digit golfer. They are more consistent than I am, and they shoot their handicap way more than I do or they wouldn’t be single digits.
Not necessarily true, I play of a 3.4 a higher handicap golfer if they think and plot there way around can beat lower handicap players. The biggest thing I see is the higher handicap golfer trys hero shots to often. By the way I'm not long but extremely consistent and generally only practice short game and putting
@@richyclubsport5155 how many times have you lost to a 15?
@@billwatkins8227 I got knocked out of our club stableford by an 17 handicap player this year, who got 43 points, I got 38 although he was cut to 14. It's hard for a low handicap player in that format
And they think better around the course - I lowered my handicap about 5 shots by improving my mental game
@@mikemoodie check out the golf sidekick. He stresses mental attitude and strategy. I think you’ll like it.
A very good explanation.
Thanks for watching!
Shoot low to mid 80's best round ever was 78. I play for fun but would much rather get blasted and shoot 95
I go about 50-50 trying to score well vs trying to just have fun
Why should a person who is a senior in age be penalized for playing off of the shorter tees?
You won't necessarily get penalized for that, though sometimes the slope and course rating from the up tees doesn't really match the difficulty of the course
why is it that in some competitions you are only allowed a percentage of your handicap? This appears to only benefit the good players. I don't understand the point of having a handicap when this happens.
I've always been told it's a measure against sandbagging, though that's going to work out better for a lower handicap, like you said
@@ryanballengeegolf they should just specify a number of handicap score cards being required but then the good players won't want that!
Weekend play, players are blasting the driver all over the place. Often in competitions play is a little more conservative and the focus level is up.
@@dougcook1176 not sure I get your point?
Great explanation 👌
Thanks for watching!
This makes me not want to do anything serious in golf lol
My handicap is my Wife
Haha, wow, so funny.
I'm a 7, but play mostly like a 10.
Dude it's golf not math
Unless you're playing for money
LOL that I am not good at golf.. 😂
😂 We're all in this together
Dont play with this fella unless your ready for a very long outing 🤦🏻
Me? I usually play in under 3 hours!
Yeah, it's not rocket science - simple statistical logic is that you will play to your handicap or better only about once in every 5 rounds ...
Wait...a 15 hdcp. is a "very good handicap"? I went from a 13.1 last fall to a 16.7 today (7 months later) and I'm thinking my golfing days are over! Hell, I'm thinking a 13 hdcp is mediocre at best and now that I've eclipsed 16, I'm in Hackers Haven!
I'm in almost the same boat - it's hard when you feel like you've gone backwards but when you know you can still shoot those single digit scores, it keeps you coming back and I'm sure in the long run it will only get better.
Nah, 15 is really good! The overwhelming number of golfers can't break 100, so you're way better than a pretty sizable chunk of golfers
Many years ago when I played old H’cap system it was often reported 90% of golfers never break 90 (bogey golf)
Returning to the game I have shot low 40’s for 9 holes and only a couple of rounds in the 90’s. These off the yellows in general play.
Most strokeplay rounds over 100 of the whites.
My eclectic card has me if I had the round of my life at one under par gross.
My index is 25, aim this summer is into teens I was a 16 h cap in my 20’s now 64, it’s possible I need to make sure I don’t have horror holes and play more conservatively at times
Someone who hits a 5i 170 in the air playing at 6600 yds is like Scottie Scheffler playing at 8500 yds. Move up.
A good formula for proper tees is 5i distance multipied by 36 which in this case would be 6120yds.
Generally what a handicap tells you is the person is a liar
Some absolutely ludicrous handicap claims on youtube
That's not just on RUclips!
A 15 is not a good handicap 😂
Believe it or not, a 15 is better than 50 percent of players who carry a handicap, which is way smaller than the percentage of people who play golf. So, better than more like 65-70% of golfers.
You need strokes, you need practice.
Scratch or better golfers NEVER produce in tournaments. It’s the 10 handicap guy that’s dangerous.
This was not my experience last weekend in a member-guest! Hahaha, but I hear what you're saying
@@ryanballengeegolf Thats shocking. I'm a 4.6 index whenever some +2 has to give me shots it never works out. I gamble on every round so i have to post them no matter what.
Sand bag in early winter so you can win beer money
I've shot 7 over and I'm a 25 handicap....once 🤣
I've also shot 30+ over on a regular basis 😁
Well then , the handicap system says you’re great, not plus 30.
Handicaps doesn't create a fair game is actually the opposite. I'm personally see more in creating brackets where you compete in for example. Hcp 0-10, 10-20 etc and no strokes given.
I dont like the fact that if you train hard to become a better golfer you get punished in matches or competitions if you have to compete against a weekend warrior.