The Burning Platform: Zille Unleashed
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- Опубликовано: 22 мар 2023
- The Burning Platform is joined by Helen Zille this week. She undergoes some grilling by Kanthan Pillay about the DA’s primary focus on South Africa’s political stage. Helen talks about her upcoming vote for Federal Council Chair, and the party’s vision going forward.
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Go Helen …. That is the reason to vote.
I agree with you Helen, that the DA is upheld to a higher standard than other political parties. One could be flattered by that. The DA is like Novak Djokovich, no matter their achievements, there's still a dislike to them. The DA needs to realize that you can not apply western democracy principles to a largely uneducated citizenry. They need to change the way they communicate to the masses.
Forward eff forward
Agree
Helen, hats off from my side.
Ok that Helen Zille pitch sold me lol
I’m definitely voting 🗳️ for DA
First time hearing that lol 😂 it should be all over social media that should be ur slogan man
I was very excited to hear Helen’s position on why people should vote for the DA. That I had to be exposed to Kanthan’s unhinged, fact-free rant on Russia, BRICS, and China in the process was highly unfortunate
The only sensible words I heard came from Helen's mouth.❤
She has facts & figures ready, before she comments .
Helen Zille love OR hate her has an wealth of knowledge when it come to politics. Can make an good educator for election education.
Agree with Kanthan, DA don't have to comment on what doesn't affect this country . Deal with issues affecting this country.
Why does cliff central have low viewership I mean the QUALITY is topnotch maybe poor marketing? This platform deserves real massive numbers
I know ! I used to as well ! But Phumi is always sniffing and talks absolute rubbish 9/10 times !
Kanthan is very controversial BUT he has sound knowledge about the subject matter when engaging ! Not just butting in , smirking ! She just drives her own agenda and not on facts
It has to be the RUclips algorithm,podcasts are not that popular in South Africa,when compared to tiktok and people's taste among those who actually listen to podcasts
I think we should take care of home first. We should just stay neutral.
Kanthan must listen to Dr Jordan Petersen….
Mrs Zille is right and so is Kanthan. They arre both very logical people. They know their stuff.
Well said Helen .
Kanthans super sharp. very knowledgable on many different issues
Helen is the SA'S Version of the Lady with the Iron ✊.She takes no prisoners and might be sadly the reason why citizens dont vote for DA😢
We have to save SA first… it’s undisputed that we are a lawless mafia state… getting poorer. Helen us like the headmistress you don’t like but she gets you to pass matrix….
Zilla is our saving grace . She knows the truth hurts, but still has the backbone to tell you . Wake up
Unfortunately for me, the only thing I will remember about this interview is the language Kanthan used during the interview. Completely unwarranted!
I found that man so very rude. You can get your point across to people without insulting them and just being dam rube about it. People who do that are just bullies. Hellen kept calm and without being rude answered the questions. Also he had such little knowledge of what he was talking about to Hellen and the us dollar. Not impressed with him at all
I agree, he needs to calm his farm. You don’t speak to a lady like that. Although, he can be respected for his foresight in politics.
This is a great show. Bravo🌹🌹🌹
Been voting since pre-1994. Have only voted for DP/DA because of their principles. The main one being, as Helen said, that everyone must have the opportunity to be the best that they can be.
The DA is imo the only party that has ever tried to achieve this in SA history. It won't be easy and mistakes will be made. But at least they are trying.
I love this platform. Garrett and team excellent content.
Phumi is a thick brick and never fails to embarrass herself
Kanthan, Ramaphosa and his government is not Modi and his government, nor do they have the influence on the world stage that India has. The US and the West need India more than they need SA. Finally your comment that the DP should recall Ramaphosa after the next elections is a serious concern... Out of the frying pan and into the fire is your proposal.
well said Hellen
Helen is looking good
She sounds very tired
That is Patriot Alliance..
The equivelant of the Dutch wildcart party
Helen is brilliant
Helen is a very smart, vastly experienced politician. I am happy to see her continued involvement for as long as possible
Phumi, we should not compare to the global picture, we compare to our peers. We are a third world country and it would be foolish to compare our food price inflation to the US/UK etc.
Leigh-Ann, you're looking so good. Must be the holiday.
Its very much foolish to expect the DA to be involve in what's going on in the DRC we should sweep in front of our own house before interfering into other countries businesses
Kanthan has posed the question the citizens pose. Helen and the DA would be wise to listen to that. From Helens answers I am concerned that she is not in par with BRICS
Its so amazing how people can be obsessed with the war in other countries while we have more than we can cope with in SA
Great show Gareth 🎉
I have a vision. A vision of South Africa where there's equality of opportunity and NOT equality of outcome!
Great show guys ... Kanthan you speak a lot of sense .... DA should pay attention to the message and the tone as 11 mill new voters looking for a home ... would be great if DA could harness most but need to address our needs 1st before powerplays
Very interesting discussion!
@Helenzille the people dónt know what the DA is about. Why would they otherwise bring it up? It's not only Kanthan. It's very many of us.
Helen is right in that 'might makes right' is not a valid policy on Ukraine. Kanthan is right in that the DA seems to be shilling for the US which is demonstrated by their selective outrage. Kanthan is also right in that Helen (as much as I admire her) is wrong to muddy the waters with these divisive tweets, which harm the DAs image and are unlikely to attract new voters. I think that, like all people, Helen's ego has run away with her on this one. That said, I'll still vote DA any day of the week because they have a proven track record.
@HelenZille you're interrupting the person speaking. Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of yours. But listen. Listen. We're the people. You shouldn't be so offhand about what's being suggested to you.
Magogo Zille is the Matriarch of the DA.
Great questions asked.
By respecting each other Pumi
May you please let us know when the referendum was conducted. Was it before Russian invaded Ukraine or after invasion?
Well said Mr Pillay
Team Kanthan!!!!! I wish the DA can stop comparing their success or diversity based on the lack of other parties. The standard is low Helen, just continue doing the great work.
i've always pronounced the word DIVISIVE differently, i.e. de-VICE-iv. VICE rhymes with ICE. just sharing with y'all.
kanthan pronounced the word as i know it. unfortunately he used a swear word though - which was best avoided IMHO.
I agree and cliff and helen both say it incorrectly.
@@wellinever1558 impressive dame is our helen though. hats off to her.
Pillay lives in a dream world where the Communist states provide a utopian world where we all happy, massa. Ask the millions of dead Georgians starved to death because they wanted to to remain independent farmers, not collectives. Why did all the Soviet "republics" bale out of the Soviet Union at the first opportunity? Why does the (British) Commonwealth still exist, we re-joined after independence, by the way, When no other group of ex-colonial countries did, apart from a few French ex-colonies. Where would he sit in the Indian cast system? Not where he is now, I bet, but we talk about Indian democracy ha,ha. Pillay, consider South Africa, we need to change, don't obfuscate our problems by ignoring them!!
Agree with Kanthan Pillay on Russia. DA need to reevaluate their position.
Ask Helen why RDP houses are always build in so called Coloured areas never in so clled white areas next to her suburb.
10:07 to 12:44 I love Helen down to a stalker level but Kantham your rebuttal FOR BRICS was absolutely spot on. That's why I voted for you. Helen needs to bring you into their brains trust. Still love you Helen.
Yes 30 years of failure
A 'referendum' to join Russia - as Russian soldiers stand with their guns. Those were not "Free or Fair" elections. come on dude
Well said Kanthan, all of your points and specifically with regards the proxy war in Ukraine.
Why not explore why people think the messaging is sub-par? Let's put our heads together and innovate when it comes to messaging.
I cannot get you on Google Home Mini
Please assist
What is the guy in the bottom right corners name?
Yes pumi agreed
Helen.. have we learnt nothing from Tutu
Pumi get’s roasted by Helen😂
Viva eff policy
Kanthan is switched on, his not woke. He is awake 😎
Kanthan is right with what he says. The Ukranian was started 14 years ago. It's not a new thing. America is an invader and trouble maker. He is also right about our politics in SA.
The word "professor" has lost all it's credibility... I work with these people daily, its shocking how easy that title come these days
i don’t think what helen said fulfils the definition of a Vision.
it is the articulation of How, when a Vision/Purpose is a What.
the kind of society helen describes is only inspiring if we know what that will deliver.
peace and prosperity, or ‘Freedom, Equality, and Dignity’ as the higher order Constitutional version, is not an ultimate goal.
It is a precursor, a How, of a compelling Vision/Purpose.
Religions are good examples of Vision/Purpose.
For some, the Vision/Purpose after which all else follows, is fundamental transcendence from earthly pain and suffering, which sounds pretty good.
For others, it’s eternal life after physical death, which deals with a fairly common fear of dying, because you don’t.
At the most secular level, it’s things like fulfil your fullest potential, as helen said, but no one knows what that is so it’s too abstract to be compelling.
At the most ideological, it’s capitalist democracy will deliver personal happiness, as promised by the US declaration of independence,
or communal equality as promised by it’s arch enemy.
For a moment, for us, a pre-ANC-failure-social-media-pre-‘post-truth’😂-Nelson Mandela was able to articulate a Vision/Purpose that was deeply compelling.
as i understood it then as i do now, the Vision/Purpose was the we, SA, were going to become the absolute and definitive global leader as the ‘Ultimate Country’.
since deeply inspiring Visions are sustainable in the long term because they are never fully achieved [eg currently run under 2hr marathon or eternal life is unproven therefore remains inspiring], this felt like worth doing, because we were going to become part of something magnificent.
so we got lined up, facing one direction, ready to do that, to fulfil that Vision/Purpose.
we were going to mirror nelson mandela’s own fundamental transformation.
it was clear to see what that was, so we had a ‘reason to believe’.
i’d still go for that Purpose/Vision.
any other version is not worth it.
and when it’s not worth it, we have what we have now:
everyone for themselves, everyone screaming in the market to get your attention, no standout category-of-one contender,
self or ‘tribal’ interests rule.
that’s not going to be overcome with nuance or abstraction.
😅no ways u got godzilla.... let there be fire 🔥
When the ish hits the fan....I wonder where she will run to..prob sweden
Helen has more backbone than the whole of SA. She will fight till SA wakes up
Kanthan please keep your language clean and get your facts about BRICS right. Go Helen! But you sound exhausted.
His facts about BRICS are spot on.
Kenyan stands correct on his knowledge of BRICS
Helen to allow abortion and samesex marriages go against the WORD of God.
Waisted opportunity of an interview with a great political mind. You guys can do better.
And Kanthan trying to push global and badly conflating US peacekeeping with an invasion of another state was pathetic and not what voters want you to talk about with Helen.
Pulling poorly analysed global topics into a local conversation was pathetic.
You guys need to do better and I expect better.
Did you listen to the Tucker- Putin interview
Kanthan is correct and Brics will crush the dollar $
They are twee gevriet
Don't forget, Russia and China have agreed to trade in Yuan, bypassing the dollar. Saudi Arabia, Brazil, Japan, Iran and several more countries are have agreed. (Helen has obviously no clue about geopolitics. She doesn't seem to be know about the Minsk Agreement and how the US/NATO's deliberate violation of it. Merkel has come out recently saying that Germany and France never had any intention of honouring the Agreement. Ukraine has said the same. Russia asked the US over and over again to stop encroaching on its borders.) The war in Ukraine actually began in 2014.
Kanthan comments do sound like conspiracy theory stuff.😄
They're fact. What he's said is fact. It's happened. You're out of date. The MSM doesn't report on this.
This panel is disrespectful and a joke, im excluding Helen.
@helenzille, Kanthan is clearly more educated about the US/NATO's attack on Russia, and the growth of the Global South than you are. This is not being conducted by force, as you've intimated. It's come about as a direct response to the US politicising the dollar against Russia. Other countries are sitting up realising that the same tactic can be used against them by the US.
You know, I would vote for the DA, but I would never vote for Helen. Jeese, talk about defensive and uptight. Must be a hell of a big stick that’s propping her up on her high tower.
The truth hurts. Now grow up . Man up too .
Panthan lies about the Crimean referendumi 1991, they wanted to be autonomous and not part of ANY country, not Russia and not Ukraine. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Crimean_sovereignty_referendum
Wiki is captured boet
@@vut_zarco then show other sources that have confirming evidence. Everyone knows wiki may have done agenda but commies have lied since Marx
Yes Russian food prices have skyrocketed also.
and then she giggles....