That's why you don't buy Yamaha Tracer 9 - the biggest marketing flaw

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  • Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
  • Yamaha's flagship motorcycle, Tracer 9 GT, is one of the best-selling motorcycles in the world. Unfortunately, the entire Tracer 9 lineup is being judged wrongly because of the wrong marketing Yamaha does in their most developed markets. In this video, I want to share why you might want to buy the regular Tracer 9 over the premium version of the Tracer 9 GT or GT +.
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Комментарии • 89

  • @SergeyVikultsev
    @SergeyVikultsev  5 месяцев назад

    Join me on the next motorcycle trip in Europe. On that tour, you can ride this motorcycle across Balkan countries and experience local cuisine, culture, and scenic roads. To join the next tour, register your interest: stoppie.me/tours/

  • @matt-ze6fc
    @matt-ze6fc 9 месяцев назад +6

    I completely agree. I got one of the few non GT Tracer 900 in the States and switched out the suspension with RaceTech suspension and modified it to my personal needs and riding style. I still came out way cheaper.. However, I do miss the quick shifter, heated hand grips and cruise control.

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  9 месяцев назад +1

      I think Yamaha tried too hard with this electronic suspension. Probably, if they have more extended travel, that would work better.

    • @MrBeracah
      @MrBeracah 7 месяцев назад +1

      Hi plse advise your height and inside leg, and if you have the seat in the lower or higher position. Thank you

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  7 месяцев назад

      @@MrBeracah hey, I am 6.2 (188cm) tall and 32 inseam. The seat is in high position.

    • @ChrisSauer-oe5ve
      @ChrisSauer-oe5ve 6 месяцев назад

      How much was suspension cost?

    • @ADV-EXPLORERS_MkM
      @ADV-EXPLORERS_MkM 6 месяцев назад

      @@SergeyVikultsevwe have the same height ! What about the wind protection ? Is it satisfying ?

  • @Hooner77
    @Hooner77 4 месяца назад +3

    Thanks for your take on the Tracer 9 suspension vs the GT. The problem for us in the USA is Yamaha dropped the Tracer 9/GT from its lineup in 2023. Currently they have brought back the Tracer 9GT for 2024. With all the new goodies added to the GT I would buy it over the non-GT if were available here. I will see if the new active suspension works on rough pavement when I take it on a test drive.

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  4 месяца назад

      Hi! Thanks for watching. I guess the non-GT version doesn't make much sense for the US. I might be wrong, but my perception that you guys ride highways rather than backroads (not talking about adventure riding). So you don't really need a "manual" version.

    • @Hooner77
      @Hooner77 4 месяца назад

      @@SergeyVikultsev I can understand that perception as people from other countries think we all ride Harley Davidson motorcycles. That is so far from the truth. Consider this fact. At 6,803,479 km the US has more roads than any other country. Those roads run from large multi-lane freeways to dirt tracks that will test the most experienced adventure motorcyclist. When I plan a long motorcycle trip, I pick a route with lots of twisty roads and as little freeway as I can get away with. I think the Tracer 9GT is great motorcycle for that type of touring. I am sure it would be better than my 2017 V-Strom 650. But it still puts a smile on my face running a twisty road.

  • @adiblum
    @adiblum 4 месяца назад +1

    Hi, Another difference to GT is the turning\lean head lights, that can not be added to the regular GT (that I have been told).

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  4 месяца назад

      Yes GT and GT+ have it. Regular Tracer doesn’t.

  • @aristarxosomegas
    @aristarxosomegas 9 месяцев назад +4

    Dear Sergey, here George from Greece, owner of a red Tracer 9. I couldn't aggree more with your arguments nevertheless i have ride a GT version and what I conclude is that GT is totally different bike. It has better handling on twisted road due to its suspension. I am planning to adjust an ohlins suspension on mine. It will be better than the GT. Ride safe!

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  9 месяцев назад +2

      Thank you George 🙏

    • @ionescugeorge2003
      @ionescugeorge2003 3 месяца назад

      I found the GT in the soft suspension setting to be more comfortable than the normal Tracer.

  • @tbrama4143
    @tbrama4143 Месяц назад +1

    I sold my MT09 Tracer because of the bad suspension. I did everything to set it up right but it just wasn’t right for me. And at high speeds (160 kmh +) the bike was shaking on the rear. Did a test drive on a big German adventure bike with electronic suspension…. So much beter! Never had any regret trading in the Tracer. I hope that the Tracer 9 has a better suspension nowadays, but in my opinion the cheap suspension is to keep the price low and the bike interesting.

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  Месяц назад +2

      I think that this generation is been improved compared to the previous one. I also think everything is build to the price. Big German ADV almost double in price, it has to be better :)

  • @StefanSpruit-up8tl
    @StefanSpruit-up8tl 2 месяца назад +1

    I have a 2019 Tracer 900 GT, and i absolutely love it. Feels way more premium then the regular 900. I will just use it for long distance rides and holidays.

  • @dumptrump3788
    @dumptrump3788 4 месяца назад +2

    The biggest "Flaw", if you live in N. America, is that Yamaha North America don't support this bike. While Yamaha dealers in Istanbul, London, Paris, Adelaide etc etc, have them lined up & ready to buy, in the USA you can hardly find one & there's NO OEM accessories. They give the lame excuse "Supply chain problems" yet dealers i the rest of the world have accessories on the shelf, ready to buy.
    It's a GREAT bike, but Yamaha N. America sucks, IMO. The dealers in the rest of the world seems to have no problem. I'm jealous.

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  4 месяца назад

      Yeah, I am surprised you guys don’t have a better choice, as we are in Europe. I am sure the US is a big market and can consume anything.

  • @alinwithther6
    @alinwithther6 10 месяцев назад +5

    Fantastic Sergey, you are nailing these videos , well done,
    And the views up there in the mountains 😮 are amazing,
    I’m so jealous 😅

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  10 месяцев назад +2

      Come! And we ride together ;)

    • @alinwithther6
      @alinwithther6 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@SergeyVikultsev I wish I had the time 🤣🤣
      Maybe when I retire or if I get enough subs so I can make a living out of the youtube videos will have more time to travel 🤔

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  10 месяцев назад +2

      @@alinwithther6 one day for sure! You are doing great mate!

    • @deanchild9848
      @deanchild9848 2 месяца назад +1

      @@alinwithther6 you are always on tour LOL.....I ride with you anytime bro

    • @alinwithther6
      @alinwithther6 2 месяца назад +1

      @@deanchild9848 🤣🤣
      I’ll be in Montenegro with Sergey in August 🤣🤣
      And today will meet with another subscriber 🤩
      Will be great if we meet one day as you not too far from me 🤣🤣

  • @RRRRefuelRideRace
    @RRRRefuelRideRace 7 месяцев назад +2

    Wonderful topic. Just before deciding for the base model I test rode (also filmed it) the GT model and I completely agree about the suspension. Just two modes and both too hard. At least for me. :) Anyways the base model has everything a usual riders need. I am a happy owner just like you. Take care and keep going bro.

  • @leastanley73
    @leastanley73 9 месяцев назад +4

    Though you switched to the Tiger, I'm between those two, great reviews.

    • @MrTeslaX
      @MrTeslaX 6 месяцев назад

      what did you decide on?

    • @leastanley73
      @leastanley73 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@MrTeslaX as we are on winter here I decided to wait and have more reviews of the new tigers, they look very good. Cheers

    • @MrTeslaX
      @MrTeslaX 6 месяцев назад

      @@leastanley73 makes sense. I al looking to buy two new bikes, one for touring and other for offroading. Might get tracer GT+ and KTM adv 390!

  • @marklee519
    @marklee519 7 месяцев назад +7

    Hi man mark here from the UK. I am riding my tracer from the UK To Macedonia this summer ( my wife is Macedonian) it's going to be a long trip I want to see as much of the beautiful Balkans as I can. Regards mark

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  7 месяцев назад +1

      Hey Mark. Sounds good! You will enjoy it for sure! Feel free to reach me out (you can use email in about tab, or social media) if you need any info. We can meet in Montenegro, maybe do a short ride if time is good! Ride safe, cheers!

    • @RRRRefuelRideRace
      @RRRRefuelRideRace 7 месяцев назад +1

      This is just great. I already know that you will have fun. Drop by to check my content. I am from Slovenia. :)

    • @dariomladenovski7047
      @dariomladenovski7047 5 месяцев назад +1

      hey I'm from Macedonia, I hope you enjoy our country

    • @marcoaurelio6941
      @marcoaurelio6941 3 месяца назад +1

      How is the avg fuel consumption on travel for 2pax?

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  2 месяца назад

      @@marcoaurelio6941i am happy with fuel consumption on this bike

  • @Pops-007
    @Pops-007 19 дней назад +1

    Montenegro is lovely place to visit. The people are nice and prices are great
    I would love to ride my Triumph Tiger there.

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  19 дней назад

      It is! Come to visit!

    • @magualex917
      @magualex917 11 дней назад

      ok i am in Romania , i come with you on my f900xr , lets go

  • @Zazir
    @Zazir 9 месяцев назад +1

    and what about high speed aerodynamics? Is it still wobling, does this bike need a stering dumper from the first ride?

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  9 месяцев назад

      No issues with high speed stability as it was with previous gen. Windscreen is not performing well, so you might want to replace it with aftermarket options.

  • @533c
    @533c 6 месяцев назад +1

    What about the suspension of first GT gen /2018-2020/? Is it more fragile than the base model? If I get the base model and put all the accessories it will be more expensive than the GT

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  6 месяцев назад

      Previous generation didn't have that much rigidity, this one is much better.

    • @533c
      @533c 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@SergeyVikultsev so If I'm looking for previous gen it will be better to get the GT version?

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  6 месяцев назад

      @@533c yes, GT will be better

  • @ossBASHA
    @ossBASHA 5 месяцев назад +3

    I assure you that roads in Canada are trash

  • @creativeleodaily
    @creativeleodaily 8 месяцев назад +1

    Huge Yamaha Fan... Drove my first ever Yamaha Nmax 125, in urban, hilly, off-roadish bad roads of Lisbon and Greater Lisbon, 75000KM in past two years, which surprisingly happend today.
    I owe my life to Yamaha as this moto saved me from flooded Roads, Crazy slippery roads, crazy cars drivers trying to kill me....
    Now my Plan is to buy Yamaha Tracer 9GT, before I finds a girl to make her my WIFE lol because after that it will be very hard, I know...
    Thanks alot for such a great video

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  8 месяцев назад +1

      That’s why they say “Revs your heart” ;)

    • @ChrisSauer-oe5ve
      @ChrisSauer-oe5ve 6 месяцев назад

      Skip the Chic and enjoy the bike 💯🙌😂

  • @mcreact6626
    @mcreact6626 Месяц назад +1

    Very great perspective 👌

  • @MrTeslaX
    @MrTeslaX 6 месяцев назад +1

    Your advice on TGT+ Vs Tiger 900GT

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  6 месяцев назад

      All depends on where you are going to ride those bikes, and what you value more, comfort or excitement?

    • @ChrisSauer-oe5ve
      @ChrisSauer-oe5ve 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@SergeyVikultsevVery rough streets & hwys?
      What is your opinion sir?

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  2 месяца назад

      @@ChrisSauer-oe5veTiger will do better in town.

  • @bartubiber
    @bartubiber Месяц назад +1

    great content 👍

  • @ralfk.5552
    @ralfk.5552 10 месяцев назад +1

    Next Season I´m with you!

  • @lold6130
    @lold6130 7 месяцев назад +3

    But the base model has that horrible split dash.

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  7 месяцев назад

      It’s not looking good, but it’s functional. Probably there will be a refresh any time soon.

    • @nickcurfs5027
      @nickcurfs5027 6 месяцев назад +2

      I love the split dash

  • @concernedcitizen5826
    @concernedcitizen5826 10 месяцев назад +1

    Another very good video, thank you sir!

  • @juliemcgillivray3394
    @juliemcgillivray3394 9 месяцев назад +1

    Did you sell your Tiger?

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  9 месяцев назад

      No ;)

    • @jeromequimson1922
      @jeromequimson1922 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@SergeyVikultsevso which is better? Gt or Gt+?

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  9 месяцев назад +1

      @@jeromequimson1922 GT+

    • @suzukik9833
      @suzukik9833 8 месяцев назад +1

      9GT+ vs suzuki upcoming S1000 gx which is better choice?

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  8 месяцев назад

      @@suzukik9833They both are great bikes, and I am exited to try Suzuki. I'd stick with Yamaha for now. They have been using electronic suspension and other tech for long enough to make it reliable. Also, they sell plenty of Tracers, where I don't feel Suzuki will be sold that much because of price tag.

  • @creativeleodaily
    @creativeleodaily 8 месяцев назад +2

    Watched your Video till the end and Subscribed after giving a like, awesome feedback

    • @RRRRefuelRideRace
      @RRRRefuelRideRace 7 месяцев назад +1

      He know how to make a video. I enjoyed it too. I am one of his subs for a long time now. :) I also own a Tracer 9. Drop by to check my content. Cheers.

  • @DC-BG
    @DC-BG 10 месяцев назад +2

    한국에서는 gt와 gt+를 팔지 않아서 선택지가 일반 모델 하나밖에 없다 ㅜㅡㅜ 하지만 나는 만족하고 있음

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  10 месяцев назад

      That’s what I am saying. Enjoy riding your bike ;)

  • @bluesaga
    @bluesaga 10 месяцев назад +3

    I like it. "Less electronic, more reliability, less electronic, more control." perfect.

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  10 месяцев назад

      What's going to happen when all bikes are EVs? :)

    • @bluesaga
      @bluesaga 10 месяцев назад

      I was quoting you. ;-) It's not that electronics are bad, but like anything, having more (unnecessary) things will eventually cause more maintenance and potentially repair cost. EVs usually have an order magnitude less parts so your reliability should increase, if you just base it on the potential of any part failing randomly. However, reliability is only as good as as the most frequent failing part, especially in a critical system. @@SergeyVikultsev

    • @Paul-pb4wv
      @Paul-pb4wv 10 дней назад

      Yep my thoughts exactly 👌. If I where a salesman I'd worship electronic suspension 👍🤣

  • @convertorx
    @convertorx Месяц назад +2

    It would be better for some of the people commenting to- including the guy who made the video- to go and buy a car.

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  Месяц назад +1

      What’s wrong with the video and the guy who made it?

  • @MK-bk6nt
    @MK-bk6nt 10 месяцев назад +2

    The problem is that Yamaha does not have touring in its offer. Tracer is a pretend tour, people treat it as tourism, while the competition offers real tourism for similar money.
    GT+ version is a scam in my opinion. For much more money you get a radar and a repaired dash which should be the same in the standard model because the current one is not different but broken. I dont want pay this price for repaired dash and radar... why do i need radar wtf? At the same time, I don't want broken clocks in the GT. Now I have to buy the extremely expensive gt+ version. But for this money I already have other motorcycles.

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  10 месяцев назад

      They had FJR which was long distance touring machine. But it is not present anymore. Maybe there will be a replacement. Will see.

    • @ChrisSauer-oe5ve
      @ChrisSauer-oe5ve 6 месяцев назад

      All theses manufacturers are selling gadgets that either over the top, or just useless 🤦‍♂️
      Maybe they will see comments and address the issues in the near future 🙏

    • @dariomladenovski7047
      @dariomladenovski7047 5 месяцев назад

      so whats the alternative in this price range then? and pls don't say Kawasaki Versys, the bike is 50+ kilos heavier than the tracer and more expensive

  • @010dommel010
    @010dommel010 Месяц назад

    je praat veel man